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Eagles Are Very Talented, Yet They Lack Discipline

Eagles wide receiver Jeremy Maclin epitomizes what the Philadelphia Eagles have been thus far, a very talented and entertaining football team, but a flawed undisciplined squad which isn’t fundamentally sound and doesn’t know how to win.

Maclin is one of the most talented receivers in the NFL and he’s having a great year statistically, but two lapses by the youngster has played a big part in two of the Eagles losses.

In the Atlanta game, Maclin put up some amazing numbers. 13 catches for 171 yards, but he dropped a pass from Mike Kafka which was right in his hands. Winning teams don’t have those lapses with the game on the line.

I can’t say that the drop had anything to do with lack of discipline, but it came at the most inopportune time.

In the game this week against the Niners that wasn’t the case. It was the fourth quarter and the game was on the line, Maclin had put together a solid performance, catching 7 catches for 74 yards. But with the Birds marching to take the lead, Maclin caught a Vick quick screen and headed upfield for big yardage.

While heading upfield he hadn’t secured the football, meaning he didn’t have both pointed covered with his arm. Defensive end Justin Smith pursued Maclin from his position on the defensive line and hit the wide receiver to knock the ball free.

I don’t like the cavalier manner in which Maclin, Michael Vick and LeSean McCoy carry the football. All of them are amongst the most talented players in the NFL, but talent alone is the answer. If you’re going to turn the football over at key times of the game, you’re going to continue to lose.

Andy Reid and his staff need to demand that they start securing the football while they’re running with it. This is the way a disciplined, championship team would treat this problem. Vick and McCoy might be worse than Maclin about the way they carry the football. It cost them last week and will cost them in the future because opposing defenses will look at the tape and know that they can force this team to fumble.

It seems that too many of the coaches and the players in this organization believe talent is the answer to everything and the truth of the matter is that it’s not.

GCOBB

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October 5, 2011 9:28 am

G
As always you are right on point. Lack of discipline and focus is right. I just can’t understand why securing the ball continues to be a problem for this team week in and week out.

paulman
paulman
October 5, 2011 9:49 am

The Team is the reflection of the Head Coach and it’s no secret that the Eagles have been near the league leaders in Penalties Committed over his tenure and at the most inoppertune time. It also is no secret that Coach AR has been too loyal, to many of the players and to many of his coaches during his tenure also.. Over time, Players and Coaches have become too comfortable and lack that Accountability and a Sense of Urgency that a Champion requires… You can also call it Heart and Passion which has left this team ever since Brian Dawkins left the locker room..
Being tough,hard-nosed and playing a physical brand of football is a mind-set and it starts at the Top and this Franchise has slipped to become one of ther more “Softer Teams” in the NFL during Coach AR tenure…
I hate to even bvring this up for it mostly has nothing to do with Football,
but when you see your Coach who is extremely obese and probably not in the best of shape, where are his priorites if he isn;t even taking decent care for himself… I don’t understand why Owner Jeff Lurie has not send Cacoh Ar to the Fat Farm in the off-season to get help and to improve his physical condition.. it’s for his own good and maybe, just maybe, if players saw Coach AR really commit to better himself physically , the players would buy in to his program and improve themselves too.. Coach ARr is a walking time-bomb and is an embarrasment to himself and the franchise for not taking better care of himself…and I would not be surprised to hear of some physical/heart problems if he doesn’t get working on this.. If your Head Coach is not Disciplined in the most basic elements of taking care of oneself, how do you expect his players to be disciplined…

paulman
paulman
October 5, 2011 9:54 am

Then when you add the continual issues with poor Clock and Time-Out Management, and the indecision on when to Challenge-Calls or not that Coach AR and his teams have displayed over his tenure is just another result of a lack of discipline and focus.. His time is up, many were fatigued of D McNabb and now we are fatigued of Coach AR and his philosophy.. At least I am..

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
October 5, 2011 10:16 am

unfocused and undiciplined = coaching to me
This teams is not a good fit for Andy…I think Andy needs a mix of Home Grown Vets which he doesn’t have anymore to get his point across to the other players..this team is full of young guys and vets that were bought

CT
CT
October 5, 2011 10:23 am

Week 1 VS Rams: Mike Vick stays healthy, no mistakes, no penalties. Defense does not crumble. 1-0

Week 2 VS ATL: Mike Vick gets hurt, Maclin fumbles. Defense crumbles. If Mike Vick does leave that game If Mike Vick doesnt leave that game we win.

Week 3 VS Giants: Defense plays well for 3 qtrs. Then crumbles. Mike Vick gets hurt after coming back from 14-0 deficit. If he stays we win

Week 4 vs Sanfran. Offense plays amazing defense crumbles. 2 miss field goals
Should be 4-0

What im trying to say is were beating ourselves. Teams are not beating us

paulman
paulman
October 5, 2011 10:37 am

The Eagles Coaches (AR,MM & Castillo) are beating the Eagles..

paulman
paulman
October 5, 2011 11:03 am

Another view on CT’s Analysis

Week #1 – If Rams RB S Jackson and OT A Smith don’t get injured, who knows how this games pans out…

Week #2 – If Coach AR doesn’t sit on the 11 Point lead when Kafka comes in, who knows..

Week # 3 – You give up 4 TD Passes to Giants QB Eli Manning, you deserve to lose

Week #4 – You allow 3 2nd Half Scoring Drives by the worst Offense (ranked 32nd before the Eagles game) in the NFL, led by QB Alex Smith, and you deserve to lose

The Eagles are what their record says they are and thats not a very good football team at this time..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 5, 2011 11:37 am

didn’t we cover this in with the “attitude” thread?

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 5, 2011 11:39 am

Pman – read your post from other blog – glad to hear all well –

Here we go – gonna get this thing turned around this Sunday – – –

one thing I noted in this article – a chang ein attitude if you will – years prior all these articles were about accumulating weapons, play makers – that is what the eagles needed (and the fans screamed for…) now we seem to be backing off of that a bit… the comment the coaches and the players in this organization believe talent is the answer to everything and the truth of the matter is that it’s not. – umm. what was it maybe three years ago maybe 4 we were being critical of the what is the word – ‘model citizen’ player – the solid fundamental guy – you know not flashy – interesting how times change

jakedog
jakedog
October 5, 2011 11:56 am

Paulman your post about reid and his health was right on

jott1972
jott1972
October 5, 2011 12:29 pm

I said several times going into the 2011 draft, the Eagles need to use their 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks on defensive playmakers much like Desea, shady and Maclin…. guys who can run and make plays.. balance the team out…

and they did the opposite… they drafted garbage…

it all started with the 2010 draft where the Eagles passed on Earl Thomas and took Brandon Graham….

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 5, 2011 12:39 pm

jott – an example of unfair criticism – they didn’t ‘draft’ three playmakers – they aquired Jenkins, Babin, DRC and #24 in FA –

garbage – based upon what – the first four weeks of the season – then guess what – I think about 27 teams drafted ‘garbage’ though I have no idea what the metirc is for ‘garbage’ – really dogging out the # 3 pick for not getting ut there with our CBs – really – as for the #1 – geez – give the guy some time – Shawn Andrews (pre depression issues) missed all but about 10 minutes of his rokkie season with a leg injury and then became (after transferring over from being a tackle in college) probably the most dominating guard in the pros.. the #2 – I don’t know that much about him or what the issue is –

Bottom line is that many (1st 3 rounds – that’s about what 96 players) of the 1st 100 players drafted are – whatever standard you are using ‘garbage’ – lack of OTAs or whatever –

as for the 2010 – Graham was having an OK season better then many of the 2010 1st rounders when he got hurt – you caould actaully say it all started when we drafted Tra Thomas instead of Ray Lewis – if only we had a time machine

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 5, 2011 12:40 pm

and yes I know CRD was a trade – but you get the point – draft, trade FA – they went out and got 4 new guys

jott1972
jott1972
October 5, 2011 1:03 pm

@navy –
you build and win through the draft not free agency…the Eagles took the wrong approach this year and look where they are… bottom!

Watkins and Jarrett suck and will never be anything more than role players. I have watched them both and they were overrated in college… sh!t…if I was playing baseball at age 26 in college I would have been a top player.

As for Tra Thomas…that was not the Lewis draft..i remember that draft and screamed for the Eagles to take Lewis and they took the Jermaine “blind” Mayberry one pick ahead of Lewis….

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 5, 2011 1:07 pm

and as if by magic – pro football focus did a breakdown by number of snaps – for each first rounder taken in this years draft – there are 7 dudes that also haven’t played a snap – a couple that have played less then 10 – someguys are part time players and some full time starters – now if he starts this week he will be right in the mixed compnay of all the other rookie first rounders who are playing –

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 5, 2011 1:16 pm

You watched Watkins play at Baylor – really – what channel was that on? and yeah – things look bleak now – but honestly – the only teams that really expect impact play in the first 4 games from rookies are teams that draft in the top 5.. because they sucked the year before – and if Watkins was 23 in college – what would be the difference now – – even camarini has only played 100 snaps this year – and he was the concensus pick – an 6’7+ is tall for a guard – jarret – never saw temple play – I noted that above –

as for my Tra Thomas Ray lewis comment – a redo – Tra Thomas Randy Moss would be more appropriate right but we can have the Mayberry/Lewsi discussion as well –

how about this – we agree to actually watch the game this week – and really hope like hell that Watkins does well becuase he is supposed to be a road grader of a guard – so maybe, just maybe, if the god’s align, Andy calls a run, Hermanns and Watkins can get us a yard or two on short yardage

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
October 5, 2011 1:30 pm

I don’t disagree with the article entirely but I do disagree with this statement

“It seems that too many of the coaches and the players in this organization believe talent is the answer to everything and the truth of the matter is that it’s not”

Honestly for years G, we hammered this team for not bringing in talent and expected rookies to make an impact immediately. So I think it’s very inaccurate and misleading to make a statement that implies this team has always chased top talent when they haven’t.

I actually think they rely on untalented players to make an impact and to me that’s a much bigger problem.

Can’t put a direct correlation with talent and discipline. Maclin didn’t fumble because he’s talented. He fumbled because he was careless. Same with Vick. To insinuate that talent is a problem is ridiculous. Now discipline is a problem but that’s not related to talent. If that was the case I wish Casey Matthews and Nate Allen were more undisciplined, if you know what I mean.

Stevo
Stevo
October 5, 2011 2:40 pm

its simple really-

-they are talented at SOME spots. Overly talented at those spots.
– they are NOT talented enough at lb, 1/2 the Oline,
– they are not talented enough at DC.

they are not using the safties to the best of their ability. They are not using the new cb;s the right way.

Great job G, but this team is not worth writting entire articles about anymore. 5 lines will do.

grifft
grifft
October 5, 2011 2:49 pm

I agree on the discipline standpoint, and I agree on the “we’re beating ourselves” concept, but it’s true that you’re only as good a team as your record indicates.

On the draft front (and defenses in general around the league), I’ll present an equation to consider:

No OTAs + new DC (bad as he is) + 6 new starters + young LB and Safety Corps + limitations on two a days and padded practices = recipe for Defensive failure.

There are very very few truly shut down defenses right now (I’d put the Ravens there, and possibly Houston), and scoring is way out of whack. Typically with OTA’s etc, the Offenses play catchup to the Defenses at the start of the season, it’s the opposite this year. Not that us helps us be any better than we are, but it’s there.

grifft
grifft
October 5, 2011 2:51 pm

Another thing: talented players is only valuable when playing to their talents. As an example: putting a shut down corner into an entirely new system and asking him to play all over the field doesn’t help.

Calsports
Calsports
October 5, 2011 3:19 pm

Amazing. This is the very first thing I said after the Niners won. I watch these games and I see constant, ridiculous ball handling skills. It’s not that hard to keep the ball close to your body, or even have two hands on the ball. I also believe these teams aren’t beating us, we are beating ourselves. We should in fact be 3-1, or 4-0. Basic ball handling, and basic tackling drills all week long, would more than likely put us back into the win column again!

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
October 5, 2011 3:29 pm

Exactly grifft. What’s the point in signing a SHUTDOWN corner if you’re not going to put him in a position to shut people down. Last time I checked, playing safety doesn’t shut anyone down. Nnamdi is at his best at the line of scrimmage in WRs faces and throwing their timing off. Not out there running around in the open field. He’s not that kind of a playmaker. Asante plays zone and that where he excels but Nnamdi doesn’t. Don’t see Revis out there playing safety. Why not? Because he’s a shutdown corner and Rex locks him up on the other team’s best receiver. End of story. And how anyone cannot blame coaching for this, I do not understand. They are clearly not putting their players in the best position. Have garbage linebackers but also have the line play so wide that you can drive a truck between them. Poor scheme, poor utilization of players, poor coaching.

paulman
paulman
October 5, 2011 4:01 pm

****Potential Trade Alert****
Dolphins QB C Henne shoulder injury worse than expected and may require Season-ending Surgery and extensive re-habbing..
The Eagles send QB Vince Young and LB Casey Matthews for Dolphins LB
Karlos Dansby and their 5th Round pick in 2012 Draft

Stay tuned for more details.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 5, 2011 4:22 pm

See scorp – difference of opinion – they dodn’t sign a SHUTDOWN cornerback, they signed a CORNERBACK. A professional athlete – they signed him to play Cornerback, he plays corneback, and the eagles – just like any team in the country, college, pro, UFL, XFL, arena, canadian football, or any other football organization, the coach (I do this so you understand any other coach is going to do the EXACT same thing) is going to put the player in the position where he will best help the team –

how do you put someone in a position to ‘shut someone down’ I can think of any sport – and you can always try to match you your best defender against the other teams best offensive player – but I can bunch rcvrs, I can go in motion, I can run pick plays, I can overload one side – this is universal of ALL sports – lacrosse – my son is a brutal defensman – he physically punishes attackman – he usually matches up against the other team big attackman – but there big attackman 6’3 200 pounds doesn’t do well against my sons 6’7 220 pounds – he punishes them – so what do they do – they move them out to midfield to get away from him – basketball – you just keep setting picks..

basically a very long winded way of saying things aren’t nearly as neat and simple as saying ‘shut this guy down’. Dion Sanders could do it but he had two things to remember – 1) he was freakishly fast – blazing – but he did not ‘get physical’ on the LOS and 2) he didn’t tackle

24 does best when he CAN get his hands on people and slow them off the LOS – but if you are the OC – why would you do that unless you wanted the WR to block him??

Stevo
Stevo
October 5, 2011 4:36 pm

your right Navy- remember when they had Klecko play FB. they didnt sign a DT to play FB- they signed a ” A professional athlete “- that should have worked perfectly. Stupid Klecko.

Stevo
Stevo
October 5, 2011 4:38 pm

or how about when they had Randel stay in the pocket and try and throw short touch passes? They tried to get those WR’s to stay in, tried to get the Oline to completly change- i mean….. those guys get paid money… they should be able to do that without a problem.

im clearly playing with you Navy but a shortened camp and no time to jell is NOT the time to reinvent a D and to try and be cute about the flipping thing. Lets let these guys play to their strengths.

Stevo
Stevo
October 5, 2011 4:45 pm

bottom line is this yall- our LB’s are not good enough to play with the wide 9. Our Lb’s are not good enough for the corners to just do their thing. We have a LB problem first and a LB problem 2nd. if that gets better the CB’s will play fine.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 5, 2011 4:52 pm

But Stevo – on the Klecko issue – a great example – Klecko was signed to be on the team one of 80 bodies – Klecko is given the option – want to try and be a FB want to try and be a DT – and he had played FB before – then the Eglaes said – we really don’t want you as a DT – while the fans go – look they signed a DT to be a FB – I see it as they signed a football player and said – do you want to make the roster – here is your best shot – Josh Parry was a former LB that converted over – so Klecko got to play another year of pro football – great on him – the eagles got a guy they could use at fullback for what 10 plays a game – and special teams etc.. its like lining up Hermanns at TE – he is an athlete – let him make a play – he either can and will or he won’t –

and sure – Let 24 play to his strength – I would line both WRs to the right side (isn’t Asante on the left – so who is the CB to the right…

I would have the TE on the left take off on a seam route to make the LB and S chase him – then swing a TB out to the left – your LB is now chasing –

That play the Giants ran where we were in man and all the rcvrs ran to the right and left Matthews one on one with Jacobs – (and before any of you go MAtthews sucks – the Eagles had been doing that with Westbrook for YEARS) – so now we are going to have 24 in press – asante on the left hanging off and reading, and then someone in zone…..

I get you Stevo – no more excuses team NEEDS to perform this week

Stevo
Stevo
October 5, 2011 5:16 pm

yes Navy… the Eagles gave a DT a choice to play FB. and that should tell you EVERYTHING about whats wrong with the guys who call the shots.

Stevo
Stevo
October 5, 2011 5:19 pm

im not saying that we should never play zone but CLEARLY its aint working as is. this D needs to learn to hide what they are in. EVRYONE knows what D they are in when they line up.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
October 5, 2011 5:27 pm

But navy you say they signed a cornerback….. but it’s clearly obvious where Nnamdi strengths are and the thing that made him one of the best if not the best CB in the league….. being a shut down corner. Coaches are paid among other things to utilize the strengths of their players and put them in a position to succeed. So you don’t take a guy who’s made his living doing one thing for almost his entire career and have him do something different AND IT’S NOT WORKING. If you recall Nnamdi didn’t become a premiere CB in the league until the Raiders started using him as a press corner. They recognized that playing off the line was not his strength and he was more suited to be up in the WR face. So you can say all you about who the Eagles signed, the point is you use the player’s strengths. You don’t sign a RB who’s made his career running between the tackles and then draw up a bunch of plays for him to run outside and then be surprised that he’s not effective. That’s like signing Desean Jackson and never sending him on a deep route. They signed a CB who is a SHUTDOWN corner, who became a top CB because of that, not playing deep safety. Period.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
October 5, 2011 5:29 pm

And that’s not a difference of opinion….. it is fact what Nnamdi has been successful at in this league. Look over his career for the proof. We can argue on whether he can be good or not but we cannot argue on whether his is a one on one lockdown corner. That’s what he’s always been. Period.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
October 5, 2011 5:39 pm

Exactly Stevo. Some of these apologist just say the dumbest stuff sometimes. Coaches are paid to recognize strengths and put players in the position to use it. Hmmmmm if your QB isn’t accurate, you don’t have him throw 40 times a game. If your RB isn’t fast, you don’t run a lot off tackle. Jim Johnson did a great job of masking the weaknesses of players. We saw that on Dawk’s last couple years here. Dawk couldn’t cover anything anymore. So what did Jim do? Have Dawk play more in the box like a safety/LB hybrid to utilize the ability he still had to attack the ball. That’s what smart coaches do. Dumb coaches do the opposite. Force a player to do something different when it’s clear they are not best suited for it. Some guys just cannot play but we all know Nnamdi can’t play but he’s looking no better than Dimitri Patterson out there. Why does he not get a lot of INTs? 2 reasons: He doesn’t play the ball good in the air and because of his press coverage technique he gets less balls thrown his way. Why this year, he’s been beat deep several times? Because he’s out there running around not knowing where his helping is and the safeties are already bad (which is why he’s back there). You pay a guy all that money to not do what he does best. Why not drop Babin back into coverage, right? He had double digits sacks but who cares, let him cover TEs instead.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
October 5, 2011 5:40 pm

This week Nnamdi should be on Stevie Johnson the entire game. No questions. You take away his best target that increases your chances of winning. But if you have Nnamdi roaming around, you take away 0 targets.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 5, 2011 6:17 pm

Scorp – deep safety – again – your comment just doesn’t match the facts – in his two plays against the Rams – the long pass (along the sideline!) and the PI – he was in man – he was chasing and grabbed the guy – he wasn’t sitting back in some cover 3

in the play against the giants – it was a 28 yard TD pass – 28 yards and he was next to the guy – deep safety – again – how would him being in man make any difference – manning threw the ball man, zone, he threw it – if the WR is 28 yards down field where should the CB be????? So the D was zone and got him there early????
against the 49ers – they were in man but put his guy in motion and got him to bite on a double move – GCOBB himself wrote about it in the Eagles crumble article – he clearly infomed people of one common way teams game plan to take advantage or press coverage guys –

Again gents – we are going to just have to agree you guys are wrong – 24 may very well have been the best in the league because he was so much better then the rest of a really poor raider team that teams just went away from him(if you rememebr – his claim to fame was that no one challeneged him – he was only thrown at X number of times – now that teams have a choice between him or Asante – maybe they like challenging him..
some comments from last two years with Raiders –
NFL’s least targeted cornerback by an extremely wide margin, Asomugha was challenged by opposing quarterbacks only 27 times and allowed 13 2009
2010 Asomugha was still targeted much less than any other cornerback in the NFL. Asomugha allowed just 10 receptions on the 27 passes thrown his way

and again – while congratualting yourselves – you never answered the factual and very ral situation of what do you do when teams do things like put players in motion, bunch rcvrs, what if they go in motion and bring a WR outside of the inside rcvr that 24 is on – now 24 is the slot…

and who/where has there ever been this defense where all 11 players get to play to the what the fans percieve as their strengths – we are going to have one guy play press, one guy play off, another guy play zone, another guy play ………….

And lastly Scorp – really – do you really in that mind of yours think any coach that rises all the way up the ranks to be professional coaches in the NFL are dumb? Its like saying a pro football player sucks – really – the only people that say stupid shit like that are people that can’t or don’t coach and can’t or don’t play –

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 5, 2011 6:21 pm

and lastly – cause many like to use words they have no clue what they mean – an apologist is someone who says or writes something in defense of someone or something – 99.5% of my writings/postings are direct rebuttals of what I consider false/not factually correct/just plain ignorant statements – my statement is simple – It’s an apologist that says 24 gets beat deep for these reason, he’s not being used correctly……….. it is the non-apologist that sez, 24 gets paid to be a CB in the NFL – do the job – the job is to keep the other guy from catching the ball –

2000man
2000man
October 6, 2011 2:00 am

this is his last year, unless he only loses 2 more games all year.

DCar
DCar
October 6, 2011 5:52 am

G, you are correct! But, all of the lack of discipline & fundamentals, stems from bad coaching! This staff is horrid! Starting with square peg in round hole Reid- Morningwood- Ritalin boy Castillo. CLUELESS!!! If their talent evaluation was better & they didn’t do musical positions with their roster, maybe there wouldn’t be all of these problems. This is what happens, when you have two useless drafts in a row & trade out of the 1st round 2 years in a row. The lack of impact & quality players are lacking & have finally caught up to them! REID & HIS CRONIES HAVE TO GO!!!!!

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
October 6, 2011 8:59 am

navy, what I am saying is that he should never be playing any type of safety with his skillset. I didn’t say they always have him deep back there. My point is he shouldn’t be back there at all. They have made him much more ineffective by having him not locked up on a receiver the entire game and having him roaming around in zone coverage playing a safety position at times. That’s just poor use of personnel. You act as if this team has never misused any player and had them play out of position. Not the first time and won’t be the last. And its painfully obvious that you are taking your prize signing in the offseason and putting him in the position to use the skills that made him the best in the league. That’s clear. You don’t see it because your head is so far up Andy’s butt.

grifft
grifft
October 6, 2011 11:10 am

Navy, I won’t say that Asmo isn’t playing the best ball out there, he isn’t and is getting exploited. I will say that Asante isn’t being asked to play press corner (which has been suggested he should do for a while – see the ’08 NFC Championship) in this scheme, he’s playing off and to his strengths. Nnamdi is being asked to do more than he’s done in a while because he’s considered the strongest CB on the team.

We may put a lot of blame on Nnamdi because he’s getting big money and was a high visibility pickup, but even HE said at the start of the year that they’re asking him to do a lot, and it will take time for him to adjust. The painful fact of the matter is that our Safeties are terrible at playing Zone, our LBs don’t pickup their man, and Asante frequently moves out of position in the Zone to either make a play on the QB (which he did on the first scoring drive of the Niners game) or go for the pick. Saying it’s Nnamdi alone is wrong, expecting him to make up for the limitations of the 3 LBs and 2 Safeties is wrong, and he’s not playing that well. There isn’t a player in the CB/LB/Saftey position that hasn’t broken their responsibilities (either gap- or zone-) at some point in every game that we’ve lost. It’s painful to watch, and it’s a discipline thing.

If you’ve ever managed people, you would understand that you don’t out an entire team in an entirely new structure that challenges what they know and expect everything to be perfect out of the gate. Failure is predictable in those circumstances, and only with mentoring and time can a situation like that be turned around. How is Castillo at mentoring the defensive side of the ball? How clear is Castillo in outlining WHY the players need to be where they are on the field? If the players don’t know why and what, you can’t expect them to know how to react on the field.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 6, 2011 11:28 am

Guys – geez – stop expanding on my thouts for me – our D backs are great and doing fine – I have no issues with them – my issue is with the bloggers who ‘invent’ things like ‘he is in zone vice press vice double vice sipping a pumpkin spice latte………… you are focused on the person I am using in the example – vice the man point I am talking about which is the majority of peopl on this site don’t know enough about football (hell – I know I am smarter then 99% and many times I say – I don’t have film or the knowledge to understand what is wrong)

grifft – your last paragraph is a perfect paragraph – nice

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 6, 2011 11:33 am

Scorp – geez – why do I try – OK – here we go – 24s skill was that no one threw the ball in his direction – kind of like the old west – the sheriff gets a reputation for being so fast with the gun no one challenges him (think of 24)…. then along comes a young gunslinger (an opposing QB – like the young QB from the Rams)) who goes, I have been getting pounded by these two marshalls (Babin and Cole) and I want to just get rid of it – I will go in the direction of that Sheriff…

figured if I told you the story like the three year old you seem to be you might get it –

again – how do you make it so teams DON”T throw the ball in his direction – that was his ‘claim to fame – I posted the comments that he was the least challeneged – if the QB just throws the ball up (the Rams I think one was an ugly double reverse..or somthing) and they actually throw the ball – YOU JUST LOST HIS BIGGEST STRENGTH do you get that – is it really that hard to understand – really –

DCar
DCar
October 6, 2011 11:51 am

Navy, I’m jealous & envious of you, because your so smart! GTFO! You’re nothing but a condescending, egotistical, delusional, butt munching tool. Anyone that comes on a blog site, to brag about oneself & try to get in a d!@k measuring contest, although they are constantly wrong, has serious psychological issues, is insecure, & has self worth problems! Get this through your thick, meathead, you are no better, than anybody else on here! Look at yourself in the mirror & stop smelling yourself!

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 6, 2011 12:23 pm

Don’t jealous or envious – I will help you. First off – don’ever learn anything about football from TV – ESPN anything like that – HBO used to have a show that was pretty good but that is not the place to go. Do two things – go to your local pop warner or AYF football program and volunteer – 1) you help out the community and 2) you actually get to try and coach – put all these great practices you preach on here into real world usage – see just how easy it is to manage the clock or get a play in or when you think you have the greatest play called and lil timmy misses the block..

see how well it works (I see this every weekend) to just yell ‘get tough, get mean, your being soft’ – be the guy that gets blamed! – learn to start with a single player, then make a line, then make an offense then call an offense during a game with another coach tryng to beat you.. go ahead – it will be great for you. Wlak a centimeter in Reids shoes when parents come up to you and tell you how ‘they’ think it should be and how you are playing their ‘superstar’ in the wrong spot.

Its not smart – its experience….

Then call you local ref association – you have to have one – check NASO to find it. Learn all the fine details and rules of the game (and hey – you make aboutu $50 bucks a game to run around on Saturday.

I assure you that if you do that for two years – you entire attitude will change – you will learn so much – stuff you didn’t even know you didn’t know – and then I won’t seem so smart – I will just seem like a guy that had done this for many years……..

Guilty on the condescending, egotistial – delusional – eagles are going 3-3 at bye – 9-2 to run out, and SB here we come – ur call on that – butt munching – dude – did you find those pictures of those trips to the Phillipines and Thailand – love me some thailand – brag….

Nice little twist there – It doesn’t bother me in the least when someone talks of there accomplishments – tell me them man – I want to hear them – I will have a hell of a lot more respect for your opinion if you tell me you were a three year starter at West Chester or Widener – I wouldn’t consider it bragging, I’d ask you about it –

self worth – dude – I got self worth rolling down my leg………… I am a blessed man – blessed – insecure – about what – pretty much been there, done that and either got a medal, t shirt or newspaper clipping to show for it.

My biggest issue is I live vicarisouly through my kids now – I actually tried to run wind sprints with my 18 year old son – he mocked me – course he is now off cracking skulls on a lax scholarship..

DCar
DCar
October 6, 2011 12:40 pm

Navy, I played College Baseball & Football for Temple from 89-92. Bobby Higginson was one of my best friends. So I’m no dope, my man. If I didn’t severely trash my knees, I would have went to the next level. Pirates were going to draft me, but I made a family decision to go to work. Injuries helped the decision. I have a great life, no regrets, 2 awesome kids (both got Baseball scholarships to Florida St.), beautiful wife & lots of escarole$$$. But I choose not to brag, because it’s no ones business. BTW, you don’t have to be a coach or official to know your sports.

paulman
paulman
October 6, 2011 12:52 pm

Nice to hear about DCar…
You had to be either the only “white guy” on the Basketball team or the only “black guy” on the Baseball team, am I right ??? ha ha and only kidding..

paulman
paulman
October 6, 2011 12:54 pm

Just for the record,
I made the All-South Jersey Drinking Team for 4 out of my 5 Years at Rutgers-Camden..

BigE
BigE
October 6, 2011 12:56 pm

DCar- amen brother

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 6, 2011 1:39 pm

Oh BigE – get off Dcar’s jock, quit licking his butt, get your head out of his ass.. I anted to knwo what it felt like to post like you guys..

D CAr – great for you – tough to do both spring anf all sports – Football coaches don’t like to let guys miss spring ball – and I am older then you
two kids on baseball scholarships – what you do pop them bad oys out right after college (if you were playing in 92 – that’s 18 years ago right) I hope they are doing well – my girl is looking at F State for VBall

Sorry to hear abpout the injury – seems you bounced well – you aint braggin buddy – good on you nothing wrong with letting ‘friends’ know about you –

my wife is a temple grad – (89 I think – I should know tha

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 6, 2011 4:38 pm

Dcar – sorry to do this to you man – but I got to throw the BS flag –

Did you or did you not say you played both football and baseball for Temple from 1989-1992

Did you say you were almost drafted by Pittsburg

Did you say you have two kids that got baseball scholarships to Florida St

are you sure you want to stand by those statements – you want to keep them – own them, live with them – you want to change, modify anything – you want to go with that Florida State – – – baseball scholarships – and you were a two sport player at Temple…….. baseball being your prime sport –

make it easy for me – just let me know what position you played in both baseball and football – you can find anything online these days – and I had a friend too that was a grad assistant at Temple football in 88/89 and he complained to me once that the coach Arains refused to let guys play two sports – but he didn’t know about Berndt – but Arians would have been the guy that recruited you no?

and if you remember – I mentioned my girl being recruited to FS – well FS baseball doesn’t recruit the Northeast. the only guys in the last few years from the northeast were guys that did JuCo ball…. so how the heck did your kids get noticed by the coaches down there?… and the only brothers on the team are from like Tampa… and the2009 – 2010 and 2011 recruit guide doesn’t have any brothers or Philly recruits…. none of the rosters have any kids (let alone brothers) from the PA/NJ – I thought the timing of you neing in school and then having 2 kids on baseball scholarships was kind of funky –

But hey – I could be wrong – not the first time, won’t be the last… But you could just give me a little bit if data (like your positions – i was a guard) for FB and BBall and it should be easy to figure out if you were on any of the rosters for the years you stated – and you could just drop what year your kids got scholarships to FState – web is an amazing place…..