There’s no question in anyone’s mind that the Eagles have one of the most talented offenses in the National Football League. According to Reuben Frank of CSNPhilly.com, the Eagles are one of only 10 teams in NFL history to gain more than 2000 yards in their first five games.
The Birds have gained 2246 yards but they’ve got a 1-4 record.
One of the major reasons is their 15 turnovers and 14 in the last four games. Another major factor involves their inability to punch the ball into the end zone.
Andy Reid made a major mistake when he decided to move offensive line coach Juan Castillo to defensive coordinator and replace him with highly regarded offensive line coach Howard Mudd. We know about how Castillo is struggling on the defensive side of the ball, but Reid disregarded how much the adjustment to Mudd would hurt the team’s short yardage and goalline success.
Mudd doesn’t like big offensive linemen, he prefers smaller linemen who can pull and get outside on screens and sweeps. The Eagles have reduced the size of their center and two guards dramatically. Unfortunately they did it so much so that they can’t run short yardage and goalline dives and quarterback sneaks. The middle of the offensive line is too small to get any movement on the line of scrimmage.
They can’t push big 320-pound defensive tackles off the ball. It has cost the Eagles dearly in most of their games. They’ve moved the ball up and down the field against every team they’ve played, but they’ve failed in the red zone or failed in short yardage out in the field.
Their goalline offense was mediocre a year ago, but this year it’s worse because of the inability of the offensive line to play power football. Think about all the times they got stopped by the Giants on the one-inch line. If they put the ball into the end zone, they probably go on to win that game.
You could say the same thing about the 49ers game. The threat of a good power running game opens up the passing game on the goalline, but teams have to believe that there is at least a credible threat.
They’ve given up on quarterback sneaks now. Why do you think Reid and Marty Mornhinweg thought up that ridiculous play with Ronnie Brown passing the ball in the middle of the backfield after faking a run.
We saw that same mentality this weeknend. With fourth and one on Sunday, Reid and Mornhinweg sent Jason Avant in motion and had Vick roll out to his left with a pass run option. Vick hit Avant on an out route to get the first down. They didn’t even think about running the football.
Unfortunately it taken the Birds three losses to learn that the middle of their offensive line isn’t big enough to move the big defensive tackles in the NFL.
Mudd & Washburn were both bad signings! Both systems don’t fit the personnel, that are currently here. Not to mention both are majority flawed. The o-line is too small, can’t pass protect, or run in short yardage, & the d-line you can run a freighter through. Not only do the LB’s suck, but the DT’s are giving you next to nothing. The d-line are getting sacks, but at the sacrifice of tackles, the run game, & gap/ lane protection. It’s a vicious circle of the doings of square peg in round hole Reid!
Yeah juan castillo pretty much got screwed as he never should of took the defense job but you never turn down a promotion i guess.He can’t even go back to o-line coach with mudd there because mudd pretty much got rid of most of the guys juan had which were bigger guys because mudd likes the smaller o-line.So he cannot even go back to o-line with mudd thereeven to help becuse it would be two guys with different o-line styles.And washburns wide 9 scheme screws up the defense because the linebackers and safety positions are to weak.Jason babin seemed to be not much of a factor last sunday without teams having to worry about trent cole on the other side.
Do you think the Redskins have been looking at the tapes from last years game down at Fed Ex field? Do you think they havent circled this game on their calendar? You know the one where we ran up all them points 59 to be exact. Where everyone in America were blessing the Birds? Oh if I am Shanahan I am telling my players we are gonna embarrass this team. This is such a bad spot for the Eagles its not even funny.
Reid is a former offensive lineman, yet he has no understanding of the basics of offensive line play: When you run the ball, it allows the offensive linemen to be on the ATTACK, firing off the ball, hitting and making the defense REACT TO YOU…Pass blocking involves moving backward, letting the defense ATTACK YOU, putting your offensive line in a DEFENSIVE mode…A 300 pound lineman is best when he is moving FORWARD…Sure, stunts and misdirection play a part, but these tactics take time to hone and
perfect…In the short term, you use a basic power attack, especially when you have a stable of strong backs, which the Eagles do.
Reid loves to get cute, but he gets too cute…This Howard Mudd apparently teaches a different way for his lineman to block and it has caused problems with a relatively green offensive line…This ‘new technique’ is probably why Danny Watkins has had problems picking up ‘the system’.
Remember, too, that the Eagles lack a strong veteran on the line, like a Runyan, who would have opened his mouth if the line coach tied to get too cute…Jason Peters is a vet, yeah, but we really don’t know if he has the personality to buck the coach when certain things aren’t working.
Keep it simple, stupid, especially when you didn’t have a real training camp.
I belive Howard Mudds style does not workwell the Coach AR/MM schemes..
At Indy, Mudd had a pure pocket passer who at 6’6″ tall could see over the Line of Scrimmage and get rid of the ball in 3.5 Seconds. The Colts ran timing patterns where Manning throws to a spot and it’s up to their receivers to get there and make the catch (which they usally did) but Manning is a HOF and a once a generation type of QB..
Vick ont he otherhand, besises his great atleticism is the anthithesis of a pocket passer, he’s small and can’t see over the line of scrimmage unless he’s a few steps further back..He’s not a passer to a spot, he holds the ball too long and extends plays with his legs and plays under MM & AR who put him in position to take too many hits..
BTW, I think this size thing is a little overrated…In a simplified attack, a 290 pound guy should be able to get enough leverage to drive a slightly bigger man back, and here is where basic double teams and stunts come in handy…Yes, ‘red zone’ attack requires more finesse, because you have a crowd of linemen bunched up in front of you…But here again, you should have a number of plays and schemes that will take advantage of the defensive sets, i.e. going off tackle, basic slants, going around the corner…Remember that Ronnie Brown play where he plunged into the center of the line and tried some kind of half-ass lateral?…What was that about?
I don’t think the Eagles have run for a first down on 4th and 1 since 1964. When have you been confident in the Eagles scoring from inside the 2 yrd line in the past decade?
Was Howard Mudd the Oline coach during that Chicago disaster a couple years back?
Short yardsage has plagued the Birds since long before Mudd got here.
Daggolden you are correct. If the Skins get up on Sunday, they’re not going to let up off the pedal. I expect the Birds to put out an effort, but the Skins are going to be jacked to put the Birds away for the season. With an exclamation point.
Good thing Sexy Rexy will probably keep them from accomplishing the goal.
vinnie, redzone and short yardage are two different beasts. Yeah, redzone has clearly suffered. But short yardage has not been a major problem for the Eagles. Ever since Vick, (Weaver), McCoy, Harrison, Buckley even…. it really has not been a sore spot. They’ll fail to convert some, as everyone will – not a high percentage play at best – but short yardage problems for the Eagles (past few seasons) is a myth. Redzone problems – yep
seriously- our Oline and Oline coaches have sucked for years. Bad redzone and failure to run for a short 1st down is nothing new. We were a little better at it last year but thats about it. And for those complaining about washburn and the wide 9….. um….. this is exactly what we wanted him to do. I think its a GREAT move long term. The issue is the crap in the middle in the meantime. The goodnews is….. Andy can no longer the glaring hole in the middle. Next year this will be better- they will grab at least 1 LB and hopefully they will have a DC next year.
I love how everyone on here is trashing Mudd & Washburn, when they first was hired before the big spending spree everyone said (including you G. check out your past posts) how great those two pickups were, EVERYONE said they were the best off season pickups of the year, i guess they all of a sudden forgot how to coach? doubt it ! If you want to blame somebody blame the brilliant front office for all the draft busts they”ve drafted he past few years.
andrew – good points. And it has still been only 5 games. It is ridiculous to think that a coach can come in to a new team, with no offseason and then be fairly evaluated for their job after 5/16ths of a season.
im with you andrew- i dont blame these 2 guys.
hey DDCar,
Did you really go to temple and play 2 sports there?????
Blaming the coaching is right but wrong. Jackson should be signed so he plays hard without questions. Trade Samuel for some draft picks and audition some other players for the o-line. Demote Castillo and bring in a veteran Coordinator with some experience.
Just like Coach AR doesn’t value the LB Positions or Big DE’s
He has never valued the Running game as a way to win games and Championships. If the HC doesn’t value or put an emphasis on physical,smash mouth tpye pf football with an power running game, then how do you expect a Team,in crunch time, be able to execute well in the Red-Zone
From Personal Experience, It would like me as a Father, not really valueing a Good Education and not stressing to my kids the importance in preparation, organization,listening,reading,asking questions when you don’t understand,etc,etc, and then being mad at my kids if they come home with C’s & D’s on their report cards anbd wondering why they don’t make the Honor Roll…. When you raise expectations, you also have to have some plans of action, then you will achieve greater results..
Talk is cheap and gets old and stale after a while, and people (players) will start tuning you out and I think this is what is occuring with Coach AR right now, he’s got a New Coaches, a bunch of 1st & 2nd Year players and a lot of Free-ageny mixed in so half this Eagles Roster are players that have only been with the Eagles for a short time and don’t fully understand what it means to be an Eagle and don’t have that veteran Leadership (Mikell,Bradley) to help show them the ropes.. .This Eagles LB and Safety Corps are in a complete disarry and don’t seem to be very sure or confident in what they are doing and maybe waht they are supposed to be doing.. This is on Coach Ar and DC Castillo, who else can youi blame.. 1st & 2nd Year players new to each othwer and to the Eagles and to this scheme..
Schill?
What would you say the reason for our offensive line’s atrocious play in short yardage and goalline situations for the last few years?
well songs, I’d say it’s worthless for people like you and I to focus on reason for past poor play – the Eagles have a staff for that and whatever you and I come up with will be moot because we’re not on that staff.
That said – um, I disagree with short yardage. The Eagles have been about average if not above in short yardage for the past few years. Vick, Weaver, Harrison, McCoy, Buckley, Jackson, Maclin….they’ve all been pretty sucessful with short yardage. Not perfect (that’s impossible and no NFL teams have ever come close)…
Redzone – well frankley we’re not built like a running team (no duh, we all know Reid…) so redzone running isn’t our strength. It’s clearly been a playcalling and exectuion issue. DUH
Songs? Why are you asking stupid questions?
So Schill, are you saying our atrocious red zone play is because our offensive line is not built to run the ball?
How long do you think we should endure such incompetence?
Songs, I didn’t say anything about incompetence. you did.
You’re line of thinking is pathetic. They need to plan and execute better for the redzone. That’s all that should be said (and it’s obvious). Anything else is useless activity/talking just to hate/vent/stir up more bullshit..
schiller- im not sure i agree about the eagles being av or above av on short yards ” for the past few years”. last year- yes. the year before? Nope. Now? Nope. so…. they were ok at it for 1 season.
Michael Vick is the biggest problem in the red zone. He can’t throw a ball with loft and accuracy, which you need to do when you have a short field. Vick is great at throwing a frozen rope to receivers when the defense is spread out, but he can’t do that when they are packed in tight in a short field. I have heard 3 former QB’s say the same thing.
If the red zone was only from the 2 yard-line to the end-zone then I would agree that the small offensive line is to blame. But small lineman are not a problem when the opposition is not in a “goal-line” defense, or when the ball is outside the 5 yard-line.
Plus, Vick is too short to see over the line when things get bunched-up. Jeezz, he gets balls slapped down when it’s an open field.
Vick the biggest problem in the redzone? Hmmm, I seem to remember the redzone being a problem with McNabb as well so you can just toss that blame on Vick out the window.
The fact of the matter is, the Eagles have never been a great redzone team. We haven’t been a great redzone team since Chad Lewis retired.
Schill…the article may have been titled “red zone”, but over half of it was dedicated to the O-line “getting a push” specifically referencing the goalline.
I just pointed out that the Eagles’ have been strugling to get that yard for a decade now. Long before arrival of Mudd.
Redzone (like all other zones) is all about the QB. Right now Vick is terrible in redzone…for reasons stated by Irish (well done).
Don’t believe me? (Of course you don’t) Take a look at the Eagles’ Red zone Scoring rankings. Take a close note of when McNabb faded….I though right around 2007 myself….
2011 (Vick) 23rd
2010 (Vick) 16
2009 (Bad McNabb) 21
2008 (bad mcnabb) 25
2007 (bad mcnabb) 25
2006 (good mcnabb) 12
2005 (mcnabb and garcia) 12
2004 4
2003 7
Sorry couldn’t find stats further back….so things clearly tail off in 2007. Why? 3 possible options:
1 – offensive philosophy change….doubtful
2 – other positional players have left and been changed…doubtful, West, Runyan, Tra, etc were there through the 2006-2007 drop
3 – Qbs good before 2007, stink since (I’m going with this one) We all say McNabb fading ayay once he hit 30…now we have the turnover machine mini-man Vick at the helm…
Or perhaps you have another explanation….
You’re going with Chad Lewis as the reason Birdo???????????
In 2003, the second best year on the list he had 23 catches and 1 TD
In 2004 (best year on the list) he had 29 and 3 tds.
In 2005 (3rd best year here) he was an afterthought hurt. 5 catches on year
In 2006 (tied 3rd best year here) he was not on the Eagles
Selective memory for sure. Chad Lewis was not the reason for the Eagles’ RZ success. A good QB was.
The offence goes the way the QB goes.
What do you expect to happen in a 5’9″ QB walks up to the 5 yrd line behind a wall of guys 6’5?
They should buy Vick some lifts. Bet success rate would go up 15%!
stevo – you don’t remember the year where Weaver dominated short yardage and Vick (although he did NOTHING else effective) would run to the corner and get the 1rst down? That wasn’t last year.
Maybe some springs under his shoes like Wile-E-Coyote!!
Couldn’t hurt
Yup, Irish and Vinnie, you are 100% correct…Vick is the problem on this team…I am finally on board, Vick is the worst QB in the league…It was Vick that missed two field goals in the red zone…Vick called the QB sneak two times in a row at the goal line, Vick also had an illegal hands to the face and holding call in the redzone, while he was running in for a TD, and took a nice hit…Vick is allowing defensive linemen to charge at him untouched. Vick is getting hit because he holds the ball too long…has nothing to do with the fact that the WR’s are not open and the O Line is not giving him enough time consistently. Vick isn’t able to throw the ball to himself, he is terrible!
Vinnie, does that stat in 2010, include the 9 rushing TD’s that Vick scored while in the redzone? probably not!
I’ll give you Vick needs to take care of the ball (fumbles and INT”s he can control) But all this redzone garbage is just utter nonsense….
With a QB like Vick the red zone should be much easier, not harder like you guys look at it…Its simple, spread the D with the WR’s, and give Vick a run pass option..or how about giving it to Owen Schmidt in the I and give him a shot to pound it in there…haven’t seen that at all this season or last season…Seen Schmidt get it on a delay, standing flat footed and couldnt get any explosion to the whole..
The stats were for the % of times Eagles scored after entering redzone. All TDs and FGs…so yes, his 10 rushing TDs counted.
Real, it all flows from the QB….and problems get compounded…..
Vick is too short, so he has terrible time throwing into endzone. (Honestly…when have you ever seen…hut…thow…td. bang-bang with Vick at the helm? It isn’t going to happen…will never happen.) D-coordinators know this, so not afraid. Can stack line knowing its impossible for Vick to see anything, so quick slants, outs, even backside throw Brady adn rodgers make famous) even quick fade to corner of endzone are not going to happen. (the last Vick to Maclin the other day was another 8 second special)
Eagles’ coaches also know this, so don’t call those plays (Remember Kolb to Maclin on quick out….ever see them call that for Vick?? Nope. ’cause it doesn’t fit his skill set…and he’d probably throw ball into DE face again)
SO…have tried a lot of runs up close this year (didn’t Schmidt 2 str8 couple games back?) try to run…but doesn’t work….why?? perhaps 8 or more defenders always there to stop it…and why they there? Because they are not afraid ov Vick throwing the ball in those situations. no fear of quick pass….runs fail.
Because run dowsn’t work, play action becomes ineffective…..
Eagles’ coaches know this too, so switch to halfback options, QB draws Desean end arounds and all the other trick garbage plays which make us all grown and say, “why do the Eagles’ always run this BS!!!”
Its pretty simple. Walking up to the LOS inside the 15 and Vick is a liability. There are only 2 options for him. A long slow developing throw, (no D afraid of this) or a run that they’re prepared for.
To use a basketball term, Vick is not a triple threat guy in close. He can’t pass from in there. This makes Ds life easier.
” Unfortunately it taken the Birds three losses to learn that the middle of their offensive line isn’t big enough to move the big defensive tackles in the NFL.”
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Which is yet another reason to fire Reid who should have known better. it’s possible to have BIG, STRONG, as well as QUICK players on the OL. I’ve seen some teams big men run down our small (supposedly quicker) players from the backside. FIRE REID NOW!!
I’m thinking the same thing, daggolden. They’d better play their hearts and asses off Sunday ’cause the Redskins are gonna be looking for payback on national tv. I’d be happy if the Eagles can keep the score low, but with their red zone problems (defense AND offense) that just may be wistful thinking.
Something tells me this is not going to end well.
The Redskins will nail the last nail in the coffin.
our Eagles do not have the talent to stop runs up the right side.
Asante leaves a void by playing off and the wide 9 have Babin running in the backfield..the right side is open for screens and power running all day.
This game will be the game to end Andy.
Also I noticed Schill put up my score prediction against the Rams but have refused to do the same for the rest of the games.
any Reason in particular Schill?
Next year will be a different team with different leadership and some different players..
Paulman’s Predictions of players that will be gone after the 2011 Season
Offense
D-Jax & V Young – Leaves via Free-Agency
O Schmitt, J Jackson,W Justice, Devan, and B Celek,
Defense
A Samuel is traded in Draft Day Trade
J Parker, M Patterson, T Laws, A Jordan, M Fokou,S Clayton, J Page
Working on 2012 Mock Draft for the Eagles..
I have them down for about a 10-12th Overall pick based on a 6-10 Record
Paulman’s New Coaching Staff for Eagles in 2012
HC – Jeff Fisher
O/Coord – Mike Tice (former HC of the Vikings and currently OL Coach of the Bears)
O/Line – Bruce Matthews (former 15 year Vet OL who played for Fisher)
WR – David Culley (returns)
TE – Pete Metzellars
QB – Jon Gruden’s son (whose name escapes me)
D/Coord – Chuck Cecil
DL – Jim Washburn
LB – Ray Stoops (just fired as HC from the University of Arizona but is a good Defensive Coach specializing in the Front 7)
Secondary – Tim Hauck
Special teams – Mike Zordich
As far as Coaches in Training
RB – Duece Staley
WR – Harold Carmichael
DL – Hugh Douglas
LB – J Trotter
S – Brian Dawkins
That’s what happens when you Muddy the Waters! Vick is not PManning, but if the Eagles change their mindset and tailor the offense to Vick’s strengths, the season will can be saved. Jamal jackson should start at center, which moves JKelce to right guard (not Watkins). Defensively, they need to lose the wide-9. The wide-9 equals touchdown every time! Asomugha and DRC are not being used properly
KEITH…WELL SAID
Well I think Vick’s size hurts him as most Top QBS are 6’3″ or better
BUT then we have Drew Brees who is Vick’s height but without the foot speed and he is doing pretty good these days
RR, are you really the leader of the Fantastic 4!? Played Baseball, didn’t make Football! Don’t be a smart @$$. Navy is that you using another name?
is Keith really Keith Richards…. Rock on dude..
Although Vick is overrated, & King of the brainfart, he isn’t the reason they stink! It’s the circus @$$clowns running, coaching, & fielding these players & team. It’s the DF, that can’t stop anyone, or hold leads. Vick is running for his life, & getting hit way too much! Reid, his cronies, & the retreds, have to go!!! Period, end of story!
No D it wasn’t me – probbly just someone who understands what a major ball buster it would be to be someone who plays two Div I sports especially one that takes up the enormous amount of time football does – but your answer leads to another ‘funny’ question – having JUST had a kid recurited to play basketball and lacrosse and a daughter that is the processof being recruited to play both indoor and beach volleyball, we ran into and are running into an NCAA issue with a rule that lists in priority the sports and basicall says, if you have a scholarship and play this sport – it has to count agianst that sport – kind of like a hierarchy rule –
For example – in the ‘olden’ days, coaches from revenue generating sports (read football and basketball) for men would offer guys scholarships in non-revenue genrating sports – say track and baseball – so the real reason that ‘sprinter’ was at college X was to play running back and the real reason that first baseman was on the 8-24 baseball team was to be a power forward. Chicks (especialy hoops) throwing the shot put that are really centers for the BBall team –
So my son (and we are talking Divsion II now) is on a Div II lax scholarship – he is NOT allowed to play on the basketball team ( and I do not know if he is good enough – he plays pick up with them, but even if he wanted to and the coach let him) because basketball is above LAX in the pecking order, so if he plays both, he has to be on a basketball ride. I think his plan is to try and do 4 years of lax and then his 5th year n hoops – we shall see….
My daughter has been told if she accepts a beach scholarship – she can not play indoor – this keeps the indoor teams from using the beach team as ‘extras’ – you understand
so I am trying to understand – and the answer may just be the rule didn’t exist at the time – or you went without a scholarship – how you even tried out for football…. because in todays NCAA rules, that would be a no-no…
for all you dads and future dads – this is one reason to NEVER turn your nose down on a solid Div III program – most financial aid packages will match the ‘scholarship; money and all these ticky tack rules go away
we learn a little bit more about navy, his son plays a golden boy sport but not good enough to crack it like the talk of the big man he portrays, division two athlete, not good enough or smart enough for the dukes or Cornell’s of the world, but yet we here from him how great he is, navy, living the dream through his underachieving son, like father like son
JAkey chu poo – my son is also on the US National U-19 Handball team – he was selected be on the team that played at the Junior Pan Ams in Venezuala this spring but his school lacrosse team was playing a very big match up in Santa barbara so — you know how that works – what sorry – I forgot who I was talking too , you would have no idea what its like to have to work with a coach – he actaully played professional dodgeball this summer – wasn’t allowed to accept money or prizes or he would jeprodize his amatuear status –
he was recruited by several Divison I lax schools (high Point, Jacksonville, Robert Morris) but wanted to try and play both hoops and lax – he isn’t that good at hoops (solid Div III, lower Div II) – and if you think it makes you cool to insult a kid for ‘only’ getting a div II scholarship well there Jakey chu again you disply your absolute ignorance for how the ‘real’ world works – come on up out of that basement, stop working in that McDonalds
and no – he didn’t really study much, for him homework was definitely optional and only done under duress – so no Dukes, cornells, princetons or Navy for him –
How bout you princess – you got the grades or the balls for one of the Service academies – or did your brother get all the balls inthe family – what sports did you ‘tear’ it up in
But as I frequently get called arrogant – what in god’s green earth have you ever done that you little worm, other then talk about what your brother does – wait – are you going to fill me in on a first cousin once removed who got a tennis scholarship or a female cousin that got a chick crew scholarship to compensate for your inadequacies – to ever judge someone else?
and two – I would soooooooo love for you to meet my son and talk shit to him – it would be so fun………….. I can almost hear the sound, kind of like when a rat gets cuaght in a glue trap and just knows the end is near…..
Paul man has met me – he has seen me in person -my son makes me look small, you wouldn’t last 20 seconds – and don’t even think you can out run him – he is as fast as he is big – oh, I would so enjoy that – and yes, I frequesntly tell him he should have played football – but really – ever watched a big D pole in lax bring the pain – with a 6 ft stick—
got one to really get you going – you know how much it irks you I now collect a pension the rest of my life – next time you talk to your brother – ask him what it means when a retiree double dips (got to love those sweeeeeet govie jobs………………. then ask him – what does it mean when a retiree gets concurrent reciept from the VA – cha ching, bank, cha ching – please insult me and imply I shouldn’t get it – oh that so hurts me when that direct deposit hits thebank – then I clear on average 350 a week ref’ing. Life is good – you should try and find one!
Right now our defense is ranked 27th in the league.
This is the result of Andy hiring a failed offensive line coach to defensive coordinator.
If the Eagles drop this game look for the drastic changes with the front office telling Andy to play the draft picks to see what players are unloaded next season, and Andy will be fired once the season is done if we lose this game.
DD,
I was merely asking a question because I read that you were accused of being a liar on your college activities. You have some major anger issues and no I was NOT being a smart a$$ like your ALWAYS are. It was just interesting that you were outed. And no, I am not the leader of the FF.
Guys and fellow posters…
Can we stop all this personal attacks on each other and our families..
C’mon, we are all passionate fans on here and have strong opinions,suggestions,complaints about the Eagles and everything else under the sun, but let’s keep the personal crap out.. I like to bust balls with the best of them, but denegrating each other and families is where I draw the line and really has no place on here and is really getting to be too much..
So can we as a group decide to move forward and rant,rave about the Eagles & Philly Sports.. I will be the 1st one to announce that no personal attacks will come from my fingers any longer…
For the Record, I have met NavyDave in person where we meet at Sports Bar to watch one of Preseason games and talked Eagles Football,Kids, and Family and had a really nice time.. He is a big boy and can take good care of himself no doubt, as he Served this Country proudly…
RR, I was being sarcastic! Don’t get your panties in a bunch!
BTW, no one was outed, for anything! Don’t involve yourself in something, that your not smart enough to understand! Me & Navy are having some hardcore mocking & ball busting, going on! So chill out, grasshopper! It’s all in fun, because our teams blow right now! 😀
DD,
Again, you have some anger issues… perfect trait for a cop…its cool.. lol
good post paulman..
I ve never seen so called eagles fans spend soo much time attacking each other and being so pre-occupied with the ir own little personal internet beefs..
Ive been on a couple of boards and this is the first one Ive ever seen where Eagle fans do not stick together and treat each other with at least a modicum of respect..
lets at least agree to disagree and not be disagreeable just for the sake of it