On Tuesday afternoon Philadelphia Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie had his annual state of the Eagles address and press conference. It was a very strange news conference. Lurie said everything to make you think that there was going to be achange with his head coach.
Mr. Lurie was very disappointment but at the end of the press conference Andy Reid was still the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles.
Jeffrey Lurie said this was the most disappointing season as the owner of the Philadelphia Eagles. He also said that the Eagles would win the Super Bowl and the head coach to do it would be Reid. He stated that his head coach was well respectedin the National Football League.
Mr Lurie is that a reason to keep Andy on as the head coach of the Eagles?
Going into the 2011 season the Eagles had signed some pretty good free agents and the team was picked by many to go to the Super Bowl by many and also to win it.
Now there was a huge question mark going in and that was with the defensive coordinator. During the off season, Reid hired offensive line coach Juan Castillo as his new defensive coordinator. A lot of people were questioning that decision because Juan had no NFL experience on the defensive side of the ball.
There were high expectations for this team. The defense for the most part looked like it was confused and Juan was in over his head. The defense lacked discipline at times and were not making plays.
Reid was responsible for this hiring and what were is reasons for hiring Juan as his defensive coordinator. We heard that Juan was so impressive during the interview process. That is no reason to hiring a guy who has no coaching experience on the defensive side of the ball in the NFL.
Reid has been the head coach for the Philadelphia Eagles for 13 years. He has the most victories for any Eagles head coach in their history. He has made them a competitive team but he still makes the same mistakes over and over. He is a poor game day coach and his clock management is very bad.
Sometimes a head coach can only take you to a certain point and just can not get you to the next level. Andy Reid has taken the Philadelphia Eagles to five NFC Championships Games and won one and went to one Super Bowl where he lost in 2004 to the New England Patriots.
Mr Lurie you have a head coach in Andy Reid who just cannot get this team to the next level. There are two former head coaches in the NFL that are working television right now that have won a Super Bowl. Bill Cowher and John Gruden have both won a Super Bowl and both have stated this year that each would like to be a head coach in the NFL in 2012.
Why not go with one of these two?
A new plan and a new attitude. Thirteen years has been long enough and the proof is in the pudding. The Philadelphia Eagles will not win a Super Bowl with Andy Reid.
The Eagles owner also stated that any coaching decisions that are going to be made will be made by Reid. Well Andy if you want to fix it, then you should release Juan from his defensive coordinator position and hire just fired St. Louis Rams head coach Steve Spagnuolo.
Spagnuolo was a part of Reid’s coaching staff until 2007 when he went to the New York Giants as their defensive coordinator and helped guide the Giants to the Super Bowl title. The former Eagles linebacker coach has the resume plus the championship to back it up.
Reid needs to fix the mistake he made. He needs to put his ego aside and change his defensive coordinator. Andy could show a lot of people that he is committed to winning and that yes he made a mistake but he is willing to fix it by going with a proven winner in Spagnuolo.
The question is will Reid do that.
Most out there think not and that Juan Castillo will come back for the 2012 season as the Philadelphia Eagles defensive coordinator.
The bottom line is this, the Eagles under the ownership of Jeffrey Lurie and head coaching of Reid will never win the Super Bowl.
Mr. Lurie has said that the model he follows in regards to franchises is the New England Patriots. Really Mr. Lurie, well the Patriots have won three Super Bowls.
How many have the Philadelphia Eagles won under your leadership? Well Jeff that number is zero. Mr. Lurie had made a lot of money owning the Eagles and the Eagles total worth has gone up under his ownership. Reid has been a major part
of that.
Fans continue to buy tickets and Eagles merchandise. All the current Eagles administration is worried about and wants is that the Eagles stay competitive. Is there a commitment to winning well Philadelphia Eagles fans how many Super Bowl rings does this organization have. The bottom line is money and this is a business for Jeffrey Lurie, Joe Banner, and Andy Reid.
This is not about winning championships. The status quo will continue for as long as this current administration is running the Philadelphia Eagles. Will this team win a championship?
Well what have they done the previous 13 seasons. Mr. Lurie, it was time for a change and you did not do it.
We can only the rectify this by hiring Spags, having a great draft full with impact players, & Signing free agents for dire needs.
Wonder if there is any discussion with talking to former GM/Executive Bill Polian about bringing him in , even as a Consultant to GM Roseman on a 2 Year Deal.. Chances are, that Polian is probably a little too strong-headed for the Lurie/Banner/Roseman to handle..but one think the keep in Mind, If 2012 Season is a do or die situation for Coach Ar (which we all think is) , than waht’s the plan moving forward if AR and the Team are not succesful again in 2012.. maybe having a Polian around could help in this area with the next transition for GM Roseman’s Decision making scares/upsets me more that Coach AR does..
Please stop. Reid is our coach – at least for 1 more year. End of story. Let’s hope we get back to the play-offs and then anything can happen.
LOW EXPECTATIONS. REID CAN’T WIN A SB. HE IS TOO CLOSE MINDED. I WII WATCH THIS TEAM AS LITTLE AS I CAN. I’VE DONE SO THE PAST 3 SEASONS. LURIE LEARNED HOW TO ACT WELL. THEY WILL NOT SUCCEED AS SB WINNERS WITH THIS FO.
Yeah, Castillo is the problem. All he did as a first year DC was lead a defense moving away from its zone blitz roots to a 10th overall ranking in scoring ahead of the Saints, Bears, Patriots, Cowboys, Falcons, Lions, Giants, and even the friggin’ Packers. Instead we should bring in the coach whose 2-14 team finished 26th in points allowed. That’ll make the difference. BTW out all the re-tread coaches who moved to a new team after a championship win, do you know how many went on to win another Super Bowl with their new club? None. Not one.
Danimal – wow – outstanding post….. I fear for you as your grasp of the obvious and use of records and facts will not bode well here –
Dixie fan – really – you are going to get a year of Songs ‘groundhog day’ Drummer ‘kool aid’ and BSM historical recollections of every issue for the last 14 years (I would love to see him and his wife fight – back in 1991 you said my butt was big, yeah well in Xmas 1992 you got me 3 ties and a 49ers jacket)
this is a group that listens to and tries to dissect FO press conferences for ‘meaning’
Wow did you really just suggest we bring in a coach that took 14 years to finally win a Super Bowl after many great seasons to replace our current head coach who hasn’t won it in 13 years?? You had a valid argument up until that very point.
In last 3 years Andy Reid has won 0 playoff games, Navy right why would u guys get rid of him. he is bound to win a playoff game in another 3 yrs
As an ardent Eagles fan for over 25 years, it seems to me that for Lurie, winning a Super Bowl is irrelevant as long as the cash register is ringing up sales. To Lurie (and most any business owner), this is about the bottom line and the fans need to remember this is a business first and foremost. As long as the fans are buying up the season tickets and Eagles merchandise is moving off the shelves, this is the product that the fans will get. The only way to make the change that is needed is when the stadium is empty during home games and the merchandise is collecting cobwebs on the shelves. When this happens, then you will see real change occur because Jeff Lurie understands business and the bottom line. I certainly feel the fans pain as I desperately want to see to parade down Broad Street myself.
tonto – then you would have to fire how many coaches in the NFL? Thats the standard – every coach that has not won a plyoff game in the last three years is fired! Who is left? By your standard Rex Ryan is safe – Jason Garret is safe and the coach in St Louis is safe – they won playoff games in the last three years –
also interesting way you worder that – they went to the chapmionship game after the 2008/09 season – lost in first round in 09/10 and 10/11 so you are counting this year as the third year – so we can’t really count who has won games from this year – but for the 09/10 and 10/11 seasons – it looks like roughly (cause can’t account for games that haven’t been played but here are some names that should be fired – Coughlin – when was the last time the giants won a playoff game?? Norv Turner in San Deigo – I could go on, but I think I made my point – if you have standard – apply it across the entire NFL
my quick math – about 10 teams have won playoff games in 2009/10 and 10/11 (figuring you wanted to go post eagles wins in 08/09 right?) so figuring natural coaching changes – 50% of the coaches? should be canned – that guy Danimal wrote a nice line in another post somehting about ‘obvious and magical’…
It is clear he is going to be here another year – so why don’t we strap in and enjoy the ride
@mscott2112>>>>I know it is easy to say that the owner is only interested in $$….and while any CEO is absolutely concerned with the bottom line…I don’t buy that old “he doesn’t want to win a SB” line…..I really believe that he does…I think he has developed a relationship with AR that he is so invested in, that he is not ready to make a change…combine that with the fact that he would need to eat around $4mill in a contract…leads Lurie to decide to let things play out for another year and be in a better position finacially next year to make a move if need.
I read an editorial this morning that equated the Lurie / Reid relationship to any other relationship….when you are in a bad relationship you see the “red-flags” early, but ignore them…then after you have invested so much time and energy without the results you wanted, you look back at earlier successes and believe that it can be “recaptured”…view this like a bad marriage…the end may be near, but they are giving it “one more try hoping for the best.
Bottom line. The decision has been made by the man in charge. Next year will have the same AR in charge. Nothing will change that, so why not look at other moves that can be made to improve the team and see where it gets the team.
mscott2112 – can I ask you a couple honest questions – if the almighty cash register is so important –
1) How much FASTER would merchandise registers ring up sales if the shirts had ‘Super Bowl Champs’ – NFC Champs – much much faster right?
2) How much more would fans pay for tickets and parking and beer and food if they were watching ‘Super Bowl Champion’ Eagles vice 8-8 eagles?
3) How much MORE money would the team make if they hosted two more home games, playoff games, – Think of how much a fan would pay for the chance to see the eagles play a home NFCC game –
so understanding and sharing your storngest desire for that proud and gloriuos day when we will get to have that parade –
how do you explain on one hand the blatant greed and ‘bottom line’ comments about the owner (I think that is the point you were trying to make)
with the fact that he could make even MORE money if they were to win the SB?
Its like this catch 22 – several on here want to point out he only cares about money – but you get to mak emore by winning –
now – couple that with the fact this is the highest paid staff in the NFL – and the organization does an assload of community work –
guess I miss how the owners desire for moeny is hurting the team – maybe he isn’t greedy enough?
Help me understand please
Navy glad your enjoying your new friend….
I only need one stat.
Zero
That’s the number of Superbowls that Andy Reid has won in 13 years.
How’s that for history,.
Greenfan – I saw that article also, but did not agree with the marriage analogy – I view it more as a ‘sales rep’ type of relationship – Reid has constantly been in the upper echelons in his ‘sales’ , and as with every ‘sales’ person some years are better then others – if you have 32 sales people in your force – and a guy is always top 10, you don’t replace him. As with other sales reps – they get older, slow down, the young guns over take them.. it happens – coming from a CEO perspective – Lurie is looking at guys like BRady Hoke at Michagen, Paul Johnson at GT or Rocky Long at SDSU and saying – hey Andy – we have had a great run – recapture that glory – the young guys are coming up –
the hard part is that a CEO for the most part – is happy if he is improving – capoturing market share etc. fans on the other hand want SB or bust – but there is no magic, you have to grind through it –
the marriage implies a contract -till death do you part and what not –
From 1961 – Andy Reid
Eagles had a .458 winning %
From Reid – present
Eagles have a .609 winning %
BSM that is a true stat – sorry bro – nothing you or I can do to fix that – but an idea – why don;t you make a list of real and or percieved failings of the organization for the last 14 years and post it like every two days – that will help!
Doesn’t anyone else think that Owner Lurie and Coach AR are kind of cut from the same cloth and are actually very similar when yo uthink about it
They are hard working,extremely loyal (maybe to a fault), like to analyze everything, well organized, risk takers.creatures of habit, don’t look or like alot of attention on themselves, private and protective etc,etc…
I think Lurie has such a hard time imagining how the Eagles would be run on a day to day basis without a person like similar to himself running the show and that it scares him to make a change at this point..I really believe that if Coach AR Fails, that Lurie genuinely feels that he failed too and will give every opportunity to win and succeed..
I am not saying that this is right,wrong or indifferent, it’s just my take on Owner Luries thoughts and feelings by what he says and how he says it ..
and vinnie….what does that matter? What is the point? To prove AR is a good coach? Most should agree. That AR is the winningest coach in franchise history? Well, probably more of an indictment of the lack of success in the franchise…but again…what is your point? Are you saying that becuase he has had a better winning percentage than all of the previous combined, then he should be coach for life? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?
What is the point? The owner has made his decsion, so why waste time with stats like that…who are you trying to influence?
Wow – I actually re-read some of the initial article – Spags is a ‘proven winner’ – um….. did the last three years NOT happen in St Louis…. this is a case where a guy walks in on the right situation – cacthes all the breaks – the team gets hot at the right time – and now looking at his entire body of work gets overshadowed – again Spags and the Giants went 10-6 and the D was ranked #14 (Castillo and the Birds went 8-8 and D was ranked 10) – the eagles D this year was better then the Giants during the regular season in all but one category – rush defense – and this was a D with som ebig names –
That Giants team also gave up 40+ points to a bunch of teams during the season – the thing was the team got there shit together during the playoffs and beat teams that crushed them (including New England) the second go round –
other tidbits – that NYG team didn’t have almost 40 turnovers
again – just a few brief moments of research before calling someone a proven winner – cause to me – Reid (see above stat from VV) is a proven winner and people want his head on a spit
Pman – I think the idea of being farmiliar wiht the people they work with has led to several of the coaching decisions on the team –
it is always easier to work with be around people that are like you then not -think if they hired Rex Ryan as the DC – just for a momnet – how would that personality fit in the coaches room?
Yes Pman, both are very similar whith the points you list.
I have seen it in business also…..loyal to guys that you know did well in the past but are not performing at the same levels.
I was taught..”Hire slow and fire fast.” ….when you recognize that the performance is no longer there…analyze the reasons…ask yourself is the employee is capable of regaining his previous numbers or if a change is needed. Once you recognize that a change is needed to improve, make the change, but you need to have done much due diligence with the new hire to insure he is the right one to move things forward.
That is talk for next year. AR and JL are together for the next year, what other moves can be made to make the team better?
This idea of we need just to get to playoffs then anything can happen… absolutely poor thinking. And there are a whole bunch of fans who are just satisfied with having a winning record, and reaching the playoffs… that tops off their tailgating day!
Things don’t happen by chance in the playoffs. Yes, there is an upset here/there but there has to be player skill and commitment and great coaching skill to make it through to a SB win. I haven’t seen a fluke win the SB recently, with exception of ’07 NYG, but they played tough and were coached superbly to knock off the Pats. They sure had better players on defense than we have! We all know Eli was wrong guy for the MVP in that game.
Yeah iggles, I am of the same opinion that there are a whole bunch of fans just happy to have a winning record…and that if ok, everybody is different….I am like you and frankly the owner of the team who keeps saying that thier plans are to win SuperBowls…plural. Frankly, we all know that just one would be new territory for the fanbase.
Too many like to point out the NYG’s and Packers who squeek into the playoff’s and end up winning. It builds excitement for alot of teams, but do not believe that you build a team “too get close” with the hope of catching lightning in a bottle and suddenly you are a champion. I don’t think this team operates that way, but those types of comments can make you think they do.
Iggles – “but there has to be player skill and commitment and great coaching skill to make it through to a SB win” – DUH. Have you heard any fan disagree with that? Nobody is arguing that you just need to get into the playoffs – even if you lack skill and good coaching. Come on man.
PETE60 – THANK YOU! I have had a really busy morning at work and took a lunch break to blow off steam and distract my stressed mind. Your post provided just the comedic relief I needed!
“LOW EXPECTATIONS. REID CAN’T WIN A SB. HE IS TOO CLOSE MINDED. I WII WATCH THIS TEAM AS LITTLE AS I CAN. I’VE DONE SO THE PAST 3 SEASONS. LURIE LEARNED HOW TO ACT WELL. THEY WILL NOT SUCCEED AS SB WINNERS WITH THIS FO.”
The part about Reid being too close minded is my point – the man throughout his career has switched coaches around a bunch (in one recent case, in the most ‘open minded’ way every by an NFL head coach). He’s undervalued the WR position, and then traded for a loudmouth diva, and then drafted some high. He’s made major major QB changes without flinching. He’s drafted in incredibly unorthodox ways. He’s been conservative in free agency.. and then LAST YEAR!? So no, Reid is NOT close-minded.
And the funniest part is how close-minded YOU were in that post- “REID CAN’T WIN A SB” “THEY WILL NOT SUCCEED AS SB WINNERS WITH THIS FO.”
Priceless. Thanks again buddy, I really needed that today.
@schil….while you can aurgue with, and you did well, Pete’s points regarding Reid being closed minded, I would submit that based on Reid’s head coaching history his conclusion that he will not succeed as a SB winner is not out of line. No coach in the history of the NFL has won his first SB after coaching 14 years…not even Cowher. So I believe Pete’s conclusion would be reasonable.
Things don’t happen by chance in the playoffs – un – we already did this myth a while back – so is the standard they have to actually win the Sb or just get in..
cause I rmeember (sadly) a Tampa team that was going to play in ‘cold’ Philly and heavy underdogs – know how that one turned out – wasn’t it like – last year – GB was 8-6 and needed to win the last 2 games to get the #6 seed? Played all games on the road through playoffs – my personal favorite is the year the 9-7 Cardinals hosted the NFCC game ahead of the 9-6-1 Eagles – but don’t let that anyting can happen thing –
I give those 07 Gnats credit – they got into the playoffs – and then each team they beat in the playoffs – beat them during the regular season – but hey – don;t let a prime example of the exact opposite of what you just said disway you –
Where would Joe Namath be if he listened to the ‘you can’t win crowd’ again – don;t let that slow your roll – the first year Oakland won the big one – didn’t they get there ove rthe heavily favorded steelers when Stabler – tripped and falling – flipped the ball to Casper – how amount Montana and the drive – was that heavy playoff stuff – Tyree’s catch – I don’t know how you can’t see ‘anything can happen’ in the playoffs – maybe you should ask the phillies?
I’m sorry – I think last years GB packers barely made the playoffs
greenfan – I agree about what has(n’t) happened so far and yes, as you said, it’s understandable for one to say – hasn’t happened in the past, so it won’t in the future – I get WHY they would say that. But that – objectively – is really crappy thinking. There was a time when you were a virgin. Never before that had you had sex. So a reasonable prediction at that point would have been – hasn’t happened, so it won’t in the future. Um…hopefully you got laid.
Next?
Ok… I can’t help it, I’ll give you another. For over 200+ years of the United States of America, there has never been a black president…. well…. uh….
forgot my favorite – the Rams – Titans SB – how the hell the titans got there – the miracle cross field pass – the Rams – had a freakin grocery clerk as a QB –
Or how about ‘an Eagles RB under Reid will never seriously contend for the rushing title”….uh….
Or “the Eagles would never go out and sign not only the top free agent on the market, but a whole boat load of others too. AND trade a former #1 pick QB for a CB and picks – that would never happen with the ‘cheap’ eagles front office. uh….
There’s a PLETHORA of examples of things that hadn’t happen before and then did. So saying that it won’t because it hasn’t IS ‘out-of-line’. It can be someone’s guess or opinion that it won’t happen, and that’s fine. But it still doesn’t hold water when you look at life, history, and facts.
you guys love stats, but just can’t handle the 14+ year coach doesn’t win a superbowl…doesn’t matter, AR is our coach and I hope that he goes against all 482 NFL coaches before him because that means my favorite team wins a SB…it’s all good
“Plethotra” … C’Mon Schill, tone it down a bit, maybe the word “lots” would suffice…
This may shock some people, because I’ve been a huge critic of Reid and this organization in general, but I think Lurie made the only decision he really could make it, in fact, he wants to win the Super Bowl next year.
To me, it’s inarguable that your best shot to win it all next year is with Reid as your coach. Yeah, Gruden came in and won a Super Bowl with right away with inherited players, but it typically takes a coach at least until his third season to win it all.
With this team, these players, contracts, roster situation, etc. he was really locked into going for it all one last time with Reid at the helm. They’re committed to Vick for next season and they just wrote huge contracts to players who fit Washburn’s wide nine and Mudd’s blocking scheme. It would have put them at a HUGE disadvantage if they had to turn the roster over, which they’d have to do with a new coach.
Reid is on notice. Have a HIGHLY successful season next year or you’re out. After next year they can get out of Vick’s deal and a new coach could bring in his own QB. There just was no other choice.
yawn- copy, paste- we need a DC.
Navy, i love how the stat about being !0th or *th in D is a perfect stat for you to chew on yet last in redzone is off limits. Please teach us… whats stats are good and what are bad? The O’s turnovers are a valid stat yet missed tackles and blown plays are not. am i getting this right?
In all honesty, i would love to see where you lay the blame for 2011 season. In order from most to least. I would argue it this way
LB/Safty talent- thats on Coaching and FO
Early season D play- nnamdi out of position, LB clueless- Id say Juan at fault but im sure im wrong.
Turnovers/Drops- im giving this to Vick and Wr’s. He needs to make better reads and they need to catch it. Both were BBBBBAAAAAADDDDD.
Playcalling- it was a better year for playcalling on the O side but games like Seahawks killed us…. what what our plan again? other games had the run game vanish all together. Id put a loss or two on this one.
teach me.
ian, im with you. For what we have…. i stay with big red. If its a year from now and we still have Juan and our D looks the same and vick is throwing int’s and the team looks like it does now…. im blowing it all up and shi[pping Andy out. I dont know why we argue about AR anymore…… we should be talking about what needs to get done for 2012…
1. DC
2. Trade for a MLB or grab Tulloch-this can be done.
3. Draft a DT(maybe 2)
4. Sign a FA SS or FS. the way we use these guys there is no difference in the spots at all.
5. Bring back DJ or sighn his replacment.
Daminal, you left out one stat when talking about your boy Castillo, Red Zone D, we came in 30th this year, last i checked their was 32 teams in the league. I love how people come on here and always leave that out when they bring out the Ds stats like that dont matter, as Joe Banner told us three years ago, let me repeat that, THREE YEARS AGO, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over n over and expecting a different result. They get rid of one inexperienced D-Cord and replace him with another. If they would only practice what they preach.
all this talk, but it all boils down to the quarterback, Reid was as good as Mcnabb took him, good, but not a champion, Spagnola is toast because his qb stinks, there’s no genius in foxboro, he has tom brady, look at the colts without manning, and McCarthy looks great with Rodgers, in today’s game its about the play of your quarterback, and therein lies Reid’s biggest problem and the reason he will be toast next year, all else is vanity, you are just spiiting words in the wind, plethora of them I might add for some of you
Paulman, what we’re talking about – “hasn’t therefore won’t” – well the ‘anti’ arguement for this (mine) can be proven by every case of a human being experiencing a ‘first’. So multiply the number of humans in the history and future of the earth, times every ‘first’ a human can have…..
Got that number…. it’s not a ‘plethora’? uh…. REALLY?
How about the Seattle Seahawks getting to the Super Bowl a few years back agasint the Steelers.. and the Arizona Cardinals and the Carolina Panthers had to be the 3 most improbable times that really were not that good that made it, funny thing is, all 3 lost too… (though the Cardinals should have won and outplayed the Steerls and the Panthers give the NE Pats a heck of a game
Yeah oddly enough, Stevo, I actually feel like this may be one of the best off seasons we’ve gone into recently in terms of areas of need.
I want Castillo gone, but the one thing that holds me back on that is if the new DC would work with Washburn’s line scheme. I’m not sure we have the right personnel otherwise and that could cause some issues. If Spags would come here and keep Washburn, I’d be all for it.
I’m not sure I think we need tackles, really. We just sunk a lot of money into Jenkins and I thought our tackles actually played reasonably well this year. The problems with the run were a lot more about our LB’s and safeties than the tackles.
That being said, I agree with the rest of your off season priorities spot on. I really feel like if we could get one good safety, one great linebacker, and one good linebacker, this team would be a serious contender. Although I might throw in an upgrade on the offensive line, as well.
jakedog – I hear you, and I agree with everything you said there except for the word ‘all’. It DOESN’T ‘ALL’ boil down to the quarterback – see Trent Dilfer….
Football is an INCREDIBLY complicated sport and it doesn’t ‘all boil down’ to anything at all. It’s un’boildownable’ – that’s what makes it so damn fascinating.
Stevo – are you full of shit or stupid – let me say it again – ALL STATS count – they all work together – they all fit – why do you keep stating that I won’t look at certain stats? Is it a mental thing – a brain block – you look at the good with the bad and try to find coorelation and fix the problems – please grab your ears – yank down hard and when you hear a loud popping sound and your head has been removed from your ASS we can talk – ALL stats – from all16 games – in all categories count got it – that easy enough for you – ALL of them – we can talk Red Zone till blue in face – very bad beginning of the year – got better as the year went on –
are you confusing me arguing that you can’t discount games as meaningless as being the same thing as telling what stats to use –
You pick the stat stevo – we can discuss – fair enough?
and again – Blame – I don;t do blame – its a – wait for it – TEAM game – each and every player (this is actually cut and paste) and coach has some part in why the team was 8-8 – with out film and without knowing what play was called – this “know it all” is not going to go around blame people – I can look at your comment about Asmo being ‘out of position’ but does that mean he was playing MLB or he was playing CB in Zone vice being in press (that seems to be a popular cliche – asking an NFL CB to play Zone D against the pass is playing him out of position) so you will have to clarify –
I am sure Vinnie would give you a very direct answer on what he thought the problem was..
if I were to say what 1 thing we MUST correct for next year that had the most impact on this year – turnovers – look at SF and there turnover ratio –
Blame leads to improvement and production… um how?
Take any problem…. ‘it’s HIS fault or HER fault’…. is the problem now solved?
Blame is worthless.
Stevo – let me try it this way – one team wins 35-28 – they give up a 45 yard pass, a 25 yard run, an 80 yard bomb and a fumble return – they did however not allow a team to score before the half from the 15 yard line –
guess how good there RZ D is – it 100%
a second team loses 17-14 they gave up a 2 yard run after a long punt return and a 10 yard pass after a fumble recorvery – they did hold a team to a FG after a 65 yard drive stalled at the 8 –
whihc team had the better red zone stats? Team A was 100% in the red zone – team B was 33% (unless you want to go by scorinng then 0%)
so just look at RZ? Now – toss in points allowed and yardage and turnovers and special team play –
is this easy enough for you?
I think we can add a Fullt-time Return Man who can maybe make a big play or 2 every game.. I relaly like this kid from University of Arakansas named Joe Adams.. He’s about 5-11 190lb and runs a 4.38 40 time.. He’s bigger and stronger than D-Jax.. He’s averaged about 35-40 Receptions a Year and was a 3 Year Starter on a very taleneted Arkansas Team… He would most likely take Chad Halls spot as the 5th WR but Adams can handle and the Punt/Kick-off Returns, Run a couple of Reverses , catch a couple of bubble screens and if he can get 5-7 Touches a game, I believe he can make some big plays as he develops his Route Running skills
Many Draft guru’s have him rated from about a Mid 4th to a Mid 5th Rounder and I hope the Eagles select him with one of their 4th Round PIcks regardless if D-Jax remains and Eagle or not..
lol navy- yes. im both. its that i see you pull up 1 stat and ignore others. Thats all- carry on.
So Tevo – sorry keep getting interuppted with phone calls – lets finish the lesson –
lets look at three ‘stats’ Red Zone – Total YArdage (or yards/gm) and total pts (or pts/game)
what does it tell you when you ahve a team that is 8 and 10 in yards per game and points per game – but sucks in red zone? think about it –
ever heard the term ‘Field Position’ think maybe that has some impact on this situation – turnovers, short fields…..
see how the whole thing works together – now throw in missed tackles (which I think got corrected as the year went on but hey who cares) we have a 8/10 in total yards/pts team and we miss a lot of tackles- one question though – where did you ever find a stat for missed tackles – did you know that for 2010 (last year) 3 of the 4 teams playing in the championships were among the leaders in missed tackles! Anyway for 2011 I can not find the stats – in 2010 the eagles missed 11.9 when league average was 9.8 (got that from Pro Football focus via igglesblog – but guess who led the birds in missed tackles – shocker here – Asante! (can you say WR Screen!)
so – in closing this fine lesson – ALL STATS have to be taken into account – this is how/where you find the weak areas and the right things to try and fix –
for the record Navy- im playing with you- Its fun and easy… you flip out easily.
instead of calling it blame schiller what about responsibility?
It is the job of a coach to determine who is responsible for the failure on a play or ultimately the failure of a team to win. In today’s “nobody is every wrong” culture, it isn’t PC to access blame, but there is always someone responsible for success or failure. It is the coaches job to identify reasons for failure and make adjustments….just my opinion
you are right about all of it…. problem is….. as ive said from day 1…….. we do not have Brady… or manning…. or any of the other 5 or so top QB’s. Andy likes to think we do… that we have had THAT guy for all those years. and we never have. 1 season… maybe 2 would i say that our QB is TOP TOP TOP.
and so…. you cant just go into a season thinking that we will throw 5 TD’s a game. Yes… it may happen from time to time against the Rams or the Cards or the seahawks….but it WONT and HAS NOT happened in the playoffs or against good teams. So what does this mean?
It means you have to have a D that is good. You have to have a D that can takle. that can stop teams in the red zone.
I agree that we cant turn it over. It may be the biggest prob we have. BUT…. to think that we can pass with a D that just needs to hold a team to 28 points…. it just wont due.