Eagles two-time All-Pro defensive end Trent Cole told Les Bowen of the Philadelphia Daily News that they were close to greatness during the 2011 season.
“We had a bad year. We just couldn’t pull it off at the last minute,” Cole said. “We were right there, inches away from being great, being a dominant team. I think some teams are going to be worried about playing us.”
Cole who is an avid hunter talked to Bowen during his appearance in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania at the Eastern Sports and Outdoors Show.
The defensive end is thrilled to have Andy Reid, Juan Castillo and Jim Washburn back in the coaching staff.
“I think it’s a great choice,” he said about Castillo staying. “Numbers don’t lie, and we put up some great numbers.” Since when is 8-8 great numbers.
As for Cole’s take on the difference between the Giants and the Eagles, and why the Birds didn’t make the playoffs and New York captured another Super Bowl title.
“They didn’t stop. They finished strong, and that’s what it’s all about,” Cole said. “We finished strong as well, but it didn’t work out (to make the playoffs).”
I saw a lot more differences than that. Their quarterback doesn’t turn the ball over and he always got the job done at the end of games. Once their defense got healthy they played as well as anybody in the league.
We as Eagles fans have to take anything we can get at this point.
We beat the Giants, so technically we are the champs.
Aren’t we?
“TIME’S YOUR’S”
“We were right there, inches away from being great, being a dominant team. I think some teams are going to be worried about playing us.” “I think it’s a great choice,” he said about Castillo staying. “Numbers don’t lie, and we put up some great numbers. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! The delusions continue! WTF is wrong with these guys!?!?!? This is why they don’t get any better & will never win under current regime. Delusions, arrogance & stupidity will prevent greatness! GO AWAY! JUST GO AWAY, THE LOT OF YOU!!!
How many times are these guys going to keep SAYING how good they are? Why cant one player, coach or Hot Dog Vendor say “You know what just plain stunk this year”
On another note I am beginning to think these guys love Reid ans Castillo is because they got it easy and they know if a new coach comes in Easy Street will come to an end.
Afraid??……..Hes funny.
The Eagles hired Bowles in case Castillo flounders and if Reid is fired.
Looking at the NFC these are my top teams.
1.Giants…..until they are beat.
2. Green Bay
3. New Orleans
4. San Fransisco…..still think they are overrated.
5.Detroit
6. Eagles.
7.Dallas
If we can sign another wr and of course……some LINEBACKERs and……
Vick and Shady play decent then maybe the playoffs.
Suprise teams in the NFC For 2012
Seahwaks (They sign QB K Orton)
Panthers (Defense gets healthy, good Draft Picks, Offense is unstoppable)
Redskins (When they sign Peyton Manning)
I absolutely love all of Trent Coles comments.
It gives you insight into the “Daytime Delusions” that these players live in.
Jason Avant thought that after one win he could bash the Philadelphia fans for being bandwagon fans. That pinhead does’nt realize that some fans have been supporting this team and his paycheck since the helmets were white.(before he was born)
With not one Superbowl parade.
Giants – Redskins – Cowboys All multiple superbowl winners.
We have a Superbowl championship in excuses for our non championship coach. I like what the Giant players did in the beginning of the year, posting a picture of an empty Eagles superbowl throphy case. That’s the bottom line.
Archie Manning should have been named coach of the year. That goofy son of his has to be the best coached player in the league. Peyton’s not too bad either.
The 49ers are young and more confident.
The Saints just got stronger, adding a defensive coordinator to go with that offense.
The Packers won’t be distracted with the death in the organization.
And the defending Superbowl champion Giants.
Those are at least four teams the Eagles will have to get past with QBs in their prime. I don’t think any of those teams are going to fear the Eagles.
Throw in Chicago, since the kick our butt every year, no reason for them to fear us.
So Trent, my guess is a decent offensive coordinator is going to look at our wide 9 and sorry linebackers and moonwalk with joy. If they have a decent QB, They are going to look at Juan Castillo and circle the Eagles as a automatic win.
After Crystal Ball Andy uses the 1st round pick on Betty White at right tackle (hey Andy will look at the film on her in the Snickers commercial and decide she’s the steal of the draft) even less teams will fear the Eagles.
I felt the pain of the Patriot fans complaining about Belechek trading out of the 1st round and stockpiling picks. Then Colin Cowherd kept insisting that they get some speed at WR for Brady. Welcome to our history. Our world.
A coach who has become too smart for his own good.
GCobb…last time I checked, NFL regular season their QB had more INT’s than the Eagles QB…plus had the same amount of fumbles lost…so how does it come down to the Eagles QB turning the ball over?
I also recall late in games the Eagles QB not getting the job done due to being injured in which the Eagles had the leads in those game, when he exited (def needs to stay healthy) as well as teammates fumbling the ball…Maclin fumble (late in game), Brown dumbass play in 2nd QTR Bills (Avant fumble) – QB needs to take care of the ball, no doubt…Late in the game, it wasn’t the Eagles QB play that hurt the team, maybe his play earlier on in the game…but to say the Eagles QB didn’t get the job done is wrong…the Eagles didn’t get the job done, is a much better statement
I don’t give a crap what this or any other loser on this team says, your play and your record tells you what you are, eagles have played and talked themselves out of the conversation in philly sports, its now phillies, sixers, flyers and eagles in last
I won’t come down on Trent, he was asked a question and he answered it…I am sure he is trying to stay positive.
That being said, talk is cheap. I certainly could not imagine BDawk making a similar statement after an 8-8 year.
I do not want to win an off-season propaganda game..or even the cap championship…I want the Birds to be successful and leave no doubt who is the best. As things currently stand, that is not us…the team has some work to do before we can claim we were just inches away.
If the Redskins sign P Manning, Paulman, they better upgrade that offensive line….they allowed over 100 hits to the QB in 2011.
Trent is a team player — a great guy to have on your team — Joe Banner took advantage of him with his contract. But he still remains a team player.
I don’t think the Eagles will go (5-1) in the division again so they must win the Seattle, Buffalo and Arizona type games this year if they want to be feared.
and the Falcons still own Vick until he can shed that off his back with a win
Trent is a team player — a great guy to have on your team — Joe Banner took advantage of him with his contract. But he still remains a team player.
I don’t think the Eagles will go (5-1) in the division again so they must win the Seattle, Buffalo and Arizona type games this year if they want to be feared.
and the Falcons still own Vick until he can shed that off his back with a win
@RT777….to be fair, Mike Vick had 14 INT’s in 423 passing attempts while Eli had 16 INT’s in 589 attempts…neither is very good, but due to Mike’s injury he had 166 fewer attempts
@greenfan – I know that!..who’s to say how he would have performed had he played in those 3 games…my point is everyone is making it as if Eli was that much greater than Vick at protecting the ball and realistically he really wasn’t…if you want to say Vick needs to take care of the ball like Aaron Rodgers did or Tom Brady did, then fine…but Eli had turnover issues as well, not too mention he runs way less than Vick and still had the same amount of fumbles lost
@ RT777…I don’t want to say anything..YOU were the one making the point that Eli threw more interceptions than Vick.
You were the one trying to make a point by leaving out information that Maning threw 39% more passes than Vick. I guess you were un-nerved that GCobb would state that Vick needs to throw less INT’s next year, a point that I would bet Mike Vick himself would agree.
How many Fumbles did Vick have versus Manning
How many big Pass Plays of 30 + Yards did Manning have over Vick
Didn’t Manning have like 15 4th Quarter TD passes to tie or set a record and led many come-from behind winning Drives in the 4th Quarter which we all know is crunch time and when NFL Games are won and lost…. Vick was flat out horrible in the 4th Quarter this season.. (maybe their final game vs the Redskins, VIck was good but that was about it)
No Comparison this Season between Manning & VIck, no comparison at all
@Green – did you also figure in Vicks rushing and why they have the same fumbles lost? same can be said for that stat, that you are pointing out about INT’s. Did Eli throw more INT’s than Vick? and are you a fortune teller, can you tell me what Vick would have done those 3 games he didnt’ play?….You do realize also, that because Vick is a running QB, his passing attempts would be less, because he ran for a gain or a 1st down on …How many 1st downs did Vick get rushing compared to Eli?
Paulman what is vick’s record head to head against Manning in the last two seasons…? Paulman, how many fumbles lost did Eli have on the season? the same as Vick? Did Eli make Vick fumble when they played each other? Paulman, Eli wasn’t great every game this season in every 4th quarter, the Giants 9-7 record shows that…Eli had a better team that took care of the ball in the 4th quarter, and yes Eli played better than Vick through the duration of the season, but no comparison at all is assinine comment…lets talk about 4 games in which the Eagles had the lead and we had turnovers by players other than Vick or Vick left the game hurt with a lead…how much of a part did Eli’s receivers play into the 30+ yards? thats right Eli threw the ball and caught it all by himself, I forgot!
Dude…YOU are the guy intent on defending Vick here….I pointed out that you choose to leave out an important fact in the comparison…..if you feel the need to make all sorts of defenses of Vick, go right ahead…..really could care less…..Vick is our QB, and I hope he plays better next year….if you feel a need to “go all Dizzy” in your support, go right ahead….
Including the playoffs manning had 18 TD passes in the 4th.
Mike Vick had….wait for it…..3!!…but 2 of those 3 came in the 4th Q of the final game of the season with most of the redskins already on the bus.
When it mattered….Mike Vick through a grand total of 1 4th Q TD this year. One!!! Awesome.
His totals for the year actually went:
1stQ: 6
2nd Q 7
3rd Q 2
4th Q 3
Wow. What a second havf kinda guy!. There’s clearly no one else I’d rather have running the show coming down to the wire!! 13 of 18 tds in the first half of games (72% of his tds) and then its Houdini time.
But of course this is not Vick’s fault….never is…must be the drops, the oline, pregame meal….or most importantly…. Cue the “this is because of Andy Reid’s system who sets his QBs up to fail!!!”
Alas, not the case. Its Vick. in his career up to the end of 2010 Vick had thrown 93 tds. They broke down as follows:
1stQ 25
2ndQ 34
3rd Q 15
4th Q 19
What?? You mean he’s been a disappearing man in the second half of games his entire career?? That can’t be! Its all Reid’s fault. He sets Vick up to fail!! Its the Wrs! Its the oline! Its Bea Arthur!! Its everyone else…..
Fact. Despite different teams, different coaches, different WRs, different olines one thing remains constant. Vick fades away in the second half of games. No suprise he did it again this year.
5 second half TDs all season! (and 2 in meaningless garbage time) Complete and utter ineptitude from the QB position
The problem that I have with CGobb is that he has taken every opportunity he could to bash Mike Vick. He does it on his radio show and he also does it with these nonsense articles. I noticed this bashing from him didn’t start until after Vick signed his contract. Fact is when he was an Eagles I don’t recall him getting a Superbowl win either, however he has done nothing all season but bash this team.
As far as comparing Eli to Vick, I personally don’t think Eli is a better player than Vick. Right there is no comparison between Vick and Eli not at all. This time last year people were saying the same thing about Eli that they are now saying about Vick. The only thing that I agree (as far as these comments are concerned) is that Vick is going to have to stay healthy, and cut down on the interceptions.
Its a team game not an Eli or Vick game, meaning just like Vick has to step up in his play so does the players around him have to make the same step. I believe what Trent says the Eagles will be a team to be concerned about next season. I just can’t think that the Giants are that much (if at all) a better team that the Eagles with Vick as the starter especially after the Eagles have beat the three times out of the four games they have played them with Mike as the starter. Another thing had the Eagles won just one more game this conversation wouldn’t even exist.
ok got it, you can point out whatever you want…but when I come back with some points, I’m just defending the QB…ok, got it..if your name is not Greenfan, you should not point out any points…got it…
rather defend my QB than another’s team…
Throw all the stats out the window as far as I am concerned,
I would take Eli Manning any day of the week for he’s a Winner (2 Super Bowls Wins to provve it) and Mick Vick is not.. What’s Vick Career Playoff Record now..
With M Vick as your QB RT777, it appears you will be doing a lot of defending..
OK then Paulman, start rooting for the Giants…
@peace – good points!
OK RT777…lets address all of your GREAT points……
“did you also figure in Vicks rushing and why they have the same fumbles lost?” ……. no, and why would I. Did YOU figure in the Eli has 2 SB wins and Vick has (1) playoff vistory?
“same can be said for that stat, that you are pointing out about INT’s.”… Ok RT…if YOU sy so.
“Did Eli throw more INT’s than Vick?” I have an engineering degree…let me see….14 < 16…therefore you are correct!! Let me ask you this RT….did Eli have 39% more pass attempts during the regular season?
"and are you a fortune teller, can you tell me what Vick would have done those 3 games he didnt’ play?"…Yes, I come from fortune teller's on my mothers side….therefore I can predict with great accuracy that in the 3 games that Mike didn't play he would have been intercepted 5 more times.
"You do realize also, that because Vick is a running QB, his passing attempts would be less, because he ran for a gain or a 1st down on …How many 1st downs did Vick get rushing compared to Eli?"…….who cares? We have Shadey to do the running, and all of this running seems to lead to Vick missing 25% of our games each year, maybe he should re-think that running style??
Funny thing is, I am OK with Vick as our QB. Vinnie and others have a problem with it, but I am OK with Mike. I just can't stand when someone tries to throw out a stat that is blatantly incomplete in it's comparison.
Thanks RealTalk, I don’t post on these blogs often, because of the biased comments. However I have notice GCobb has done nothing but bash this team and that pisses me off. Eli won the Superbowl and now he’s considered great makes no sense to me, when I know that Mike is a better qb, and also the Giants wouldn’t have been in the hunt had the Eagles won one more game, if the Giants and Eli were that great that would have not been the case.
sounds like a bunch of excuses….did you notice we were 8-8 this year peace112?
Ummm Green, you do realize when Vick got hurt he was in the pocket or looking to pass, not when he was running for positive yardage…correct? or do you even watch the games? Fact of the matter is Eli had more turnovers than Vick did in 2011, is that not fact or not? GCobb stated Vick did not take care of the ball like Eli did…so I was just trying to figure out how he came to that conclusion…Vick missed 3 less games than Eli did very true…
Again my comment wasn’t about who was better in 2011…my comment was about Eli not being that great in taking care of the ball…you yourself said Eli INT and pass attempts weren’t that great…so really what is the problem here?
Yeah Greenfan I did notice, I think I pretty much said that. You say what I said were excuses, I say its facts.
Your comment used a stat regarding INT’s in 2011, so how were you not looking at who was better in 2011?? You make no sense…..why not just say that you support Vick and leave it at that. Your aurguments are really silly…what does being inside or outside the pocket matter when he got hurt…..really man, just leave it at blind support and stay away from stats or facts.
@peace – I appreciate when someone posts with logical sense…I myself can only deal with the dumbasses on this site once or twice a week…
@RealTalk, Like I said, Cobb has done nothing all season but bash this team, owners, players, coaches, even the janitors. I don’t really rely on stats because they can be deceiving, example stats may say qb had 30 ints, but yet those same stats will not tell you whether those ints were on the qb, some could have been tipped balls etc. I like to more rely on what I see, and I don’t see Eli as being a better qb than Vick, sorry if that offends some.
OK peace….the fact is…..we did not make the playoffs this year…..never mind, I doubt that you would even read any other facts from last season.
Answer me this oh peaceful one….. what are you basing your “Fact” that you state that “I know that Mike is a better qb”…how do you defend that quote with facts?
what does being inside or outside the pocket matter when he got hurt” Umm, green are you a senior citizen, short term memory loss? you said that Vick got hurt because he was rushing….do you even know what you say? yes 2011 as in this past regular season, dumbass!
I said this:
“You do realize also, that because Vick is a running QB, his passing attempts would be less, because he ran for a gain or a 1st down on …How many 1st downs did Vick get rushing compared to Eli?”…….
your response:
who cares? We have Shadey to do the running, and all of this running seems to lead to Vick missing 25% of our games each year, maybe he should re-think that running style?
so what the f%ck are you saying?
@RealTalk, I understand I don’t spend a lot of time on these sites either, for the most part they are biased, and a lot of the comments are not written by fans. I see that there are some of these bloggers spend their days and nights here, I often wonder why they are not in the Eagles front office, or standing on sidelines calling plays like Reid LOL
@Peace, I agree, there has been nothing but negative articles from this site about the Eagles all season long…Gcobb is really a Cowboy fan, weren’t his last two seasons under the Cowboys?
To Peace
Did you See Eli Manning hoist up the Lomardi Trophy…maybe put away the Bob Marley Bong Set you have for the evening, and watch ESPN tonight and you’ll learn that he has done it twice in the last 5 seasons..Like I stated, there is no comparison, Elil is a Top #5 QB in the NFL and VIck is somewhere in the 12th-18th Ranked QB’s now
@paulman – I also saw a host of other players on the Giants hoisting up the Lombardi Trophy!
To paulman
No I didn’t bother to watch, Eli. Hey dude, please don’t try to get cute, I stated an opinion if you don’t agree its all cool, but please try being an adult and stay away from the insults. Like I stated before you are right there is no comparison between Eli and Vick, none at all. But then I also stated that last year this time you folks were saying the same thing about Eli that you are now saying about Vick. And don’t try stats, I don’t have a problem with you feeling Eli is great none at all, but it doesn’t mean I have to agree with you.
@RealTalk, I am not if Cobb played his last two years with the Cowboys, I just know that he at one time played for the Eagles and didn’t get a Superbowl win. The same would apply for Ike Reese, he is another who complains about this team (I don’t think as much as Cobb), yet for some reason didn’t get a Superbowl win. They both sound like hypocrites to me.
People kill me with the turnover issue with Vick versus Manning. Get real, if Eli Manning had to be running for his life at the snap of the ball on every down he’d have a lot more turnovers…his career stats prove that. The Eagles have to improve the interior of the line to be able to compete with the better defenses in the league.
Manning doesn’t have to run for he gets rid of the ball which is something Vick will never learn, he creates half of his own sacks by waiting,waiting.. Vick is too small so he has to drop further back and then his WR’s are smaller which make it harder to see them down the field.. Small but Fast Mentality and Roster does not win the Important games (Playoffs) in the NFL which has been proven, time and time again..
I mentioned Bob Marley’s because it’s his Birthday this week..I love his music..
Just a little busting on the peace112 sign-on name, which I do to everyone including myself.. no offense meant..
Paulman that is BS…Manning was sacked more times than Vick, oh yea thats right Vick played 3 less games so I shouldn’t say that…But for the record Manning was sacked 28 as compared to Vicks 23…small? have you watched Manning play, have you seen ball batted down at the line of scrimmage with Manning? I have…589 rushing yards to Mannings 15…thats right, Manning throws the ball away and the down is lost, Vick runs for a gain or a first down and that is a bad thing…I just don’t understand, isn’t the QB job to move the ball down the field? I dont care how it is done, get positive yards…how about we ask defenders in the league who would they rather face Manning or Vick…wish there was a poll out there right now, that would end all of this BS…
Well its a good thing Eli doesn’t have to run, because he would more than likely trip over his own feet, fall and lose the ball.
@RealTalk, what did Jerry Jones say about Vick, I don’t recall him having a problem facing Eli and the Giants.