One of the most important responsibilities a NFL quarterback must fulfill is the task of being a leader. First of all he has to be a leader during the game and secondly he has to be a leader after the game. Eagles quarterback Michael Vick made the mistake of coughing up the football during the game and then quadrupled the problem by refusing to take responsibility for it after the game.
Eagles quarterback Michael Vick’s post-game comments regarding his fumbles were very troubling. He started out his explanation with a weak “everything happens for a reason” comment, then finished up his answer to the question with some “if it was meant to be then it was meant to be” garbage.
It sounded like what a person would say who didn’t want to take responsibility for doing something wrong. That type of thinking is nonsense and would lead us to give an okay to anything anybody ever did. If we believed that kind of nonsense then no one would have to be responsible for anything.
What if DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin and all the Eagles receivers were to drop all of his passes then come back to the huddle and say “I guess it was just meant to be”?
Making mistakes can be forgiven. Fumbling the ball can be forgiven. Refusing to take responsibility makes things worse, not better.
Vick needs to apologize for saying that after the game. This team can get over losing to the Pittsburgh Steelers yesterday, but they won’t go anywhere if their starting quarterback refuses to take responsibility for fumbling the football.
He needs to do a better job of running with the ball secured under his arm. He needs to cover up both points of the football and put two hands around it.
I had been so impressed by Vick making it a point to take responsibility for turnovers in previous games. He didn’t point the finger at the offensive line, his receivers, the running backs or the coaches. He took responsibility and that’s what a leader is supposed to do. You can be sure that his comments made his teammates what to follow him.
I know that sometimes a receiver can run the wrong route and leave a quarterback holding the ball while under pressure from a tough defensive line. We have all seen times when the Eagles coaches have put Vick in a bad situation by calling pass after pass, but the only person responsible for fumbling the ball into the end zone yesterday was Michael Vick.
The one ingredient which has gotten Vick through the time in the penitentiary and back to the top echelon of pro football has been his courage. I saw take the responsibility for everything he did without putting up any excuses. That takes a lot of courage and character to admit when you’re wrong and take the consequences for it. His big heart was the reason he has been able to lead fourth quarter comebacks despite playing poorly during games this year.
If he doesn’t step up and take responsibility for laying the ball on the ground, then he will run the risk of erasing everything that he’s done up to this point and that includes losing the confidence of his teammates.
G:
Well said. After the game, I told everyone that the game proved that this team was not one of champions. I know that Les Bowen has an article about it, but I have friends who will tell that I was livid about the loss moreso than them precisely because it proved to me that this team is not thinking about winning the Vince Lombardi trophy. I am obviously expecting more of people who have lesser goals. For that I am crestfallen – not just disappointed.
Why should then not be thinking of being champions, G? What else SHOULD they be thinking? Win the Lombardi Trophy! It is all I think about EVERY WEEK! I guess I need therapy, huh?
In my opinion Vick saying he has no explanation is the right thing to say…There was no explanation or any excuse for it. He knows he is supposed to take care of the ball, he felt he did protect the ball. Had Vick said the defense made a good play and knocked the ball out, would that have set well, or would that have been taken as an excuse?
Yesterday’s loss was mainly on Vick! His teammates, coaches, hisself, fans, may try to put the blame else where but it was all on Vick! Vick played the QB position very well, and his 104 passer rating proves that…but If you’re gonna be a RB at times during the game, then do what a RB is supposed to do and hold onto the ball! Its that simple. Yes he may have tried to protect the ball but he didnt and the end resulted in points off the scoreboard for the Eagles!
With that said, the fumbles in the rear view mirror, the Eagles still had a chance to win the game, and Vick helped deliver when the game was on the line! As inconsistent as Vick has played, the Eagles have been in every single game, (maybe excluding the Cards game) and the Eagles are still 3-2 and 1st place in the East…Eagles take care of business next week they will be 4-2 going into their bye week.
However, I did not like the call on the QB draw, McCoy should have had the rock! Also I did not mind Andy Reid burning timeouts early in the 4th. could have done without the challenge, considering they went for it anyway…But AR was going for the win on that drive and was counting on the defense to make the stop. I did not like that the Eagles went to a pretty deep zone on the 3rd and 12. Do what your team does best with the game on the line! zone really?
At the end of day the Eagles loss, it happens! My feelings have changed, I’m ridin with this squad til the end! Eagles all day!
i thought andy and juan called good games- the zone or wht they used to call prevent defense at the end was hard to take. other than that i thought both sides did well. the QB draw, in hindsight was a mistake but they don’t have that benefit. cant win on the road when you drive the ball down the field and are marching in for a TD and you fumble. then give them short fields all day- the kick coverage is brutal
funny how big ben isn’t noted as a scrambler but the way he anticipates and moves in the pocket is incredible. he is more dangerous than vick on the move he bails them out constantly.
for real well said real.
The look on Vicks face when the steelers were on the final drive says it all, the cameras panned and showed Vick, Jackson an maclin slumping on the bench while big Ben marched his team down the field, no leadership, and maclin looks like the grinch, what a sorry ass lot the three of them…
And Vick taking care of the ball? He could, but it’s obviously not important to him as demonstrated by his answers at the press conference, like a brat who is asked by his father for the tenth time why he hasn’t taken out the garbage, same type of response, “I don’t know”‘ well hell if it were important to you you get it done, I bet Vick took care od the soap at leavenworth and never dropped it while in the shower
The defense should have been in man to man at the end of the game. Also a few blitzes would be nice. Bottom line is this was a win we should have had. At the end of the year it might be a difference maker.
Mike Vick sounded like someone with a driking problem denying they have one. It was hard to watch and harder to accept. I would like my QB to feel the pain I do at the end of the game. He is really killing me.
Xevious..com n guy
What do you expect?
Juan is doing his usual cover 2 that leads to teams coming back with the QB sitting tight in a clean pocket.
This is normal bud.
Didn’t you see last season?
You can also throw Shady McCoy on the heap of very good RB’s who talent was wasted while andy Reid was head coach.
I think the Lions are a more formidable foe compared to the likes of the Cleveland Stallworth Browns whom our team made look like an up and coming contender.
Lions 30
Eagles 15
5 field goals
Honestly though. Who could have seen this coming?
4 times the ball on the carpet. 2 lost.
It was really out of character. No one could have possibly predicted a game like this. I mean its not like Vick has led the league in fumbles every year of his career, is it??
Bottom line to me with all this Vick nonsense is that he is a LOSER
When it comes to being a NFL QB and a supposed Leader and Face of the Frachise
It’s a great story about redemption and him taking advantage of another chance given to him by the Eagles , but little by little, he is reverting to his old ways now that he has his big contract and endorsements
My remedy for his fumbling is simple, sit his dumb, arrogant , take no responsibility ass down and play Foles or Edwards and hope for the best for this Team and Franchie are going nowher with Vick at the helm
Who knew the defense wouldn’t be able to stop a 1st -20 and a 3rd-12. Who knew. The defense built to play with a lead. But the fumbles are the problem.
Mkay.
vickwas the butt chaser in leavenworth from what i heard..
Look Guys…..We’re 5 games into the season and we’re still talking about fixing things we said were fixed.
This is not a lockout or short OTA season…..which was the excuse for Vick’s lackluster season last year.
Remember?
This is not Juan’s first season which was used as an excuse for Nnamdi last season.
DRC is playing his natural position so, Asante Samuel playing off can not be used as an excuse.
My question now is why have the offense digressed after having a full offseason and no disgruntled players with the contracts for Djax and Shady complete?
You mean this is just blamed on fumbles?
Where are the big plays?
Why does April the special teams coach make Segrest look like Belicheck?
What hell is going on with our top pick from Graham who we bypassed JPP for?
This team have more problems than Michael Vick turnovers and it all leads back to Andy Reid.
You guys can’t see the forest for the trees.
With years of rooting for this team I can tell you exactly where this season ends.
Can you?
When we got T.O. and seen the team in the preseason, there was no doubt with what we were seeing compared to the rest of the NFC that this team was Superbowl bound.
We as Eagles fans can’t look up the turnpike with the Giants and hope our team get a chance and roll over teams come playoff time like the Giants.
The Giants have been soundly coached and have been big on both lines with a ground game and big receivers who are built for winter play.
Our team is something, somewhere wallowing in the middle and have been for some time now.
A team with no clear identity, with an offense that struggles to score 20 points in a passing league leans towards the protecting the offense while penalizing defenses.
Guys..let me tell you how this ends.
the Eagles will lose against the Giants and go into the bye 3-3.
Andy recovers after the bye winning 2 in a row which brings optimism at the halfway mark at 5-3
We lose the next 4 bringing us to 5-7down the stretch.
Andy Rally the troops with a strong finish winning out 9-7 eclipsing Lurie’s 8-8 unacceptable mark, missing the playoffs in the last week in a numbers crunch.
Andy gives a press conference saying this season was totally unacceptable but he likes this bunch but it came together too late and this young team is now have the proper mix of veterans and youth to contend.
Lurie extends Andy into next season with an agreement to promote Bowles to DC, So Andy calls a friend and get Juan a job coaching defense with a losing organization.
And Andy Reid is forced on us another season beginning the Foles Era.
Hope this help you guys focus on more important issues like a purposely imploding economy and a farce election with a choice between 2 losers for a bogus presidency controlled by the club of rome and zionist.
Stay away from flu vaccines which causes serious illnesses and increases your chances of getting the flu and spreading it.
Keep your children safe away from the medical tyranny
Fumbles were a killer. He doesn’t seem to have the presence of mind to put the ball away in reference to the second lost fumble. He is not seeing or feeling the rush at times even when it is coming right at him. That is a little distressing. I continue to be impressed with DJax though this year.
Love this whole idea of Vick having eliminated his interceptions and how he’s “making better decisions”
Deos no one remember the “turn around, run backwards, spin and heave a moonshoot jump ball up for grabs” play that happened just before the “I’ll dive headfirst and have the ball bounce off the turf” play?
Good decisions indeed.
Even though I’m annoyed with Vick giving up those fumbles in in essence giving up points at the goalline, any sensible fan without a hidden agenda towards the guy can see that he STILL did his job when it mattered the most. He still led the Eagles down the field and gave them the lead with 6 and a half left to go in the game. It ain’t about how you start, it’s how you finish. Vick finished.
The defense however, did not.
Such. Complete. Bullahit.
lol vick still did his job when it mattered most? really birdo? I have no hidden agenda, my agenda is to root for the eagles to win. and i dont think they can win with vick, i mean lets be real. there is virtually 0 qbs that are less reliable than vick. he literally has been putrid and his qb play is flat out embarrassing.
I want foles or edwards because neither can play worse than vick. vicks play is absolutely disgusting in mostly every game except when the game hangs in the balance in the 4th quarter. sure he has been getting doing well on those last 4th quarter drives but if he was a normal qb and a quality qb we wouldnt be in these bad spots at the end of the game.
hopefully vick can turn it around because i know reid wont go to the next guy in line until it is too late. so basically its ride or die with vick unfortunately. im riding but also critiquing and laughing my ass off every weekend at his goofs.
i really cringe when i hear that the 58th minute is more important than the first quarter. a late drive is dramatic but scoring early and often can make the 58th minute NOT RELAVENT!!–jumping on a team early changes how they approach the game, makes it easier to play defense, makes the offense more predictable. Vick is capable of magically plays– really magical and when they are happening your jaw drops– however his history with turnovers is undeniable, it is also undeniable that SB winning QB’s don’t turn the ball over. its just a fact.
Can HAC, Mhenski or anyone else tell me what happens if the Defense stops the Steelers from getting a 1st down on their LAST posession ? Nothing else
Of course the fumbles matter in the 1st half but what happens if the Defense stops the Steelers from getting a 1st down on their LAST posession ?
The only thing that matters in a game is the last drive. Simple as that. Did Vick turn the ball over and give up opportunities that should have been capitilized on? Absolutely. But in the end, he GOT THE JOB DONE. That’s ALL that matters to me. If you throw 10 interceptions in the game and have the worst game of your career but still have the testicular fortitude to march your team down the field and put them in a position to win when it’s all said and done, the loss does not fall on you. It’s not how you start, it’s how you finish. The fact of the matter is, Vick gave the Eagles the lead and the defense didn’t hold up their end of the bargain, period.
Just do your job. That’s all that needs to be done. Do your job. That’s all the defense had to do for us to win the game, and they didn’t. Vick has been Mr. Come Back all year. Is it pretty? Absolutely not. But a W is a W. The defense DID their job the other 3 times we won this year but they didn’t do their job yesterday, period. Are they the sole reason we lost? No. It never falls on one aspect nor one phase of the game. If they would have done their job on the final drive when it was 3rd and 12 would we have won? Absolutely.
No he didn’t GET THE JOB done you putz. He vomited up the ball several times, killing drives and keeping points off the board.
You want to give the ball, down 2, with time, to the QB who has over 25 game winning drives.? Who orchestrated, not one, but 2 said drives in the Superbowl, including a last second TD for the win?
You think giving the ball to that guy up 2 is GETTING THE JOB DONE? BS. What the F did you think was going to happen there?
Sorry…up 1
Gotta luv and Birdo, you clowns are blind. Or you see the truth, but refuse to believe it….its the same wither way.
You can ignore the first 58 minutes. I’ve been saying since game 1, that Vick’s reckless, irresponsible play was going to come back to bite the Eagles. We’re lucky it didn’t happen when a Brown dropped a sure int, or when the Giants puked up their final 3 plays, but it was going to happen.
And it will continue to happen. Vick is the league’s best at keeping both teams in every game. The absolute best.
I mean for God’s sake, its comical at this point….remember that run backwards, spin and heave up the moon shot….that inspired straight up laughter from people around me when it happened. The QB is a joke, and he excells at keeping other teams around….
So don’t be suprised if those teams he keeps alive with his ineptitude actually win the games he’s handed them.
Vick’s fumbles greatly impacted the outcome of Sundays game, no doubt… But for anyone to dispute that he didn’t get the job done, is not thinking straight or does not understand the goal for a team at the end of the day. Goal = Be in position to get the win.
@Birdo….No doubt, Vick is getting the job done when it matters most!! In any sport, you can’t look back, you gotta move on to the next play, the next possession and do better. The ultimate goal at the end of the day is to get the W and Vick has helped put the Eagles in that position 4 out of 5 games. In fact, I heard all off season from those not in favor of Vick that he could not lead a team on game winning drives, could not get it done in the clutch. The same cats that are on here right now, saying Vick can’t this, Vick can’t that.
The Eagles will be there at the end and will be led by Vick!
Fact of the matter is the Eagles are in 1st place in the East! They loss a tough game to Steelers team who is always tough at home. I for one will not be upset if the Eagles head into the bye with a 4-2 record.
Gotta Love It I will answer.
If the D stopped the Steelers from getting that 1st down who knows what happens with Vick at QB, I seriously believe that taking a knew is not even safe with Vick at QB.
I dont think that question is really fair though considering the D did get the necessary stops against the Browns, Giants and Ravens.
Mike Vick and Mike Vick alone has put this team in a position to lose every single week this year EVERY SINGLE WEEK. You wanna blame a defense that is above average and near the top in every category besides takeaways then fine you do that but we have a real problem at the QB position and it isn’t going away until Vick does.
Our D is good enough as currently constructed to win a championship. Just need a QB to take care of the ball, complete over 60% of his passes, not hold the ball for 5+ seconds, not throw into triple coverage, and a QB that has on field confidence in his game and can throw receivers open.
The truth of the matter is there is a double standard when it comes to Vick…I forget who the Sunday Night football announcers are…
But against the Giants Vick throws a pass between to defenders to Celek for a completion. The announcers says that was a dangerous throw. Sunday night I’m watching the Saints/Chargers, Brees throws a similar throw, the same announcers says that was a great throw.
Eli Manning throws 3 INT’s in the first half against TB, then comes back in the 2nd half and leads his team on a game winning drive. Everyone even those that knock Vick on here, say Eli is clutch and no mention of the 3INT’s, only matters that Eli drove his team down the field and got the W.
Now Vick has done that 3 times this season, 4 times if you count this pass Sunday, and its still about him turning the ball over even though he’s led the Eagles on 3 game winning drives…
There are plenty more examples I can use as well. But that type of shit, really makes you think, why?
Vinnie you are a moron that cannot take part in an unbiased conversation about the Eagles/Vick. Your opinion means nothing to me and I’m pretty sure it means nothing to anyone else reading.
The object of a game is to win. No matter how you do it, the object is to win. Period.
You cowards act like Vick is the only QB to EVER turn the ball over! Be REAL! Where are the Packers and Saints at right now with two of the best if not THE best QB’s in the game? Answer me.
Fact of the matter is, when the game is on the line in the 4th quarter and you need someone to drive you down the field to win the game, NO ONE has been better than Vick this year. NO ONE. 4 4th quarter comebacks. 4 times the Eagles were down in the 4th quarter and 4 times Vick marched them down and put them in position to win. PERIOD.
You want to complain about something with this team? Forget about Vick, his turnovers are annoying but what I’m more annoyed with is the defensive lines LACK of getting to the QB. How many times did Big Ben fumble the snap and there were NO d-linemen around? Didn’t Eli do that last week too? Can we get some DAMN TURNOVERS?
The additions made by Howie and Andy on the Defensive side of the ball should have made Howie Roseman a candidate for GM of the year. Cox, Kendricks, Ryans, Boykins are top of the line moves, hats off to the personal department but Mike Vick’s terrible play has cheated this Defense out of two road victories —- The defense is carrying this team
Vick isn’t the only qb to throw a pick or have a bad day he just has a propensity to do it quite often.
As for the defense, in the nfl if you give the ball to a good qb(even Vick) late in the four down by a couple they all seem to drive the ball. Damn teams soften up the zone… A move I don’t understand.
And he DID NOT get the job done, when he wins and turns it over the Vick apologists correctly state ‘but he won the game’ so now when he turns it over and loses you can’t say he did his job.
cigar. they D softens up late in games because they generally cant get blitz calls in quick enough because they got no huddle going on. also blitzing generally can create more mismatches and the propensity for big plays so they soften up to give the O the short stuff in the middle of the field and take away the home run..
Vinnie only has one thing left to complain about with Vick and that is fumbles…
3 weeks since Vick threw a pick…
Vick against the blitz…8 for 12 against the Giants Blitz with a TD…dont know what he was against PITT, but I’m certain it was solid.
Vick has led the team on 4 go ahead drives, something you said Vick can’t do.
Vick is changing plays at the line, something you say Vick doesn’t do.
Vick is not getting balls batted at the line, something you say always happens…
Vick is not going to 7 step drops all the time, seeing much more 3 step, something you say Vick can’t do, because of his height…
Once this turnover issue is cured, we won’t be hearing from Vinnie!
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3 weeks since Vick threw a pick…
Just luck. Did you not see the run backwards spin-o-rama heave ho for a jump ball. Stupid. Being tackled by Ngata attempted heave – only Balt player in area. Stupid. The fact that the stupid throw didn’t get pick does not negate the fact he’s still making stupid throws.
Vick has led the team on 4 go ahead drives, something you said Vick can’t do.
In Cleveland his hit 2 cleveland players and put the ball on the turf – pure luck there wasn’t a turnover. Balt drive with stupid heave. YOu’re trying to Make Vick out to be some sort of Montana, when he’s been the luckiest SOB I’ve ever seen at QB. That will end very soon.
Vick is changing plays at the line, something you say Vick doesn’t do.
Vick is changing from passes to runs. Soething every high school QB is allowed to do.
Vick against the blitz…
See: Cardinals, Arizona, last play before half.
Vick is not going to 7 step drops all the time, seeing much more 3 step, something you say Vick can’t do, because of his height…
This actually a suprising development – go vick!
Once this turnover issue is cured, we won’t be hearing from Vinnie!
As if…..
Henshi I know why they sit in two deep but don’t like it. In the birds situation go all out and if you give up a home run then you put your explosive offense (tongue in cheek) on the field with 2-3 minutes left.
Unreal the expectations in signing Vick as a top 3 qb have not Ben met, even you can see that
Real your last post may be best served on a national media message board in my opinion. However I suspect the announcers would say that because
I would guess someone would say that because Brees has a proven track record of threading the needle, and being an extremely accurate passer that can throw receivers open and Vick does not have that track record. Past results shape opinions.
With Eli he is a 2 time super bowl champ, has completion % of 60+% the last 5 years, has thrown for over 4000 yards the last 3 years, Eli is also a model citizen from an NFL family and is marketable. Vick has only once completed 60+% through a season and has a max td for a season of 21 has a never came close to 4000 yards passing.
A lot goes into perception of people. and vicks attitude/track record/crimes dont bode well for him as being a golden boy. the guy on monday night football gave his atlanta fans the finger on national tv, then theirs the dogs, the gambling, the lack of dedication and so on. these things dont go away with some people. and when certain people think you are a scum bag for your past actions thats how they perceive you going forward.
if you are implying its a race thing which you have in the past i think you are wrong. people loved and admired mcnabb, moon and mcnair just to name a few. not to mention most nfl players are not white… i know qbs are but i dont think it has anything to do with race at all its history
has vick changed off the field, i believe so but who knows. you are what your resume says you are
No not saying its race, but it really makes me wonder…I knew someone would say Brees is proven…Reality this season is Brees has thrown the same amount of INT”s that Vick has thrown this season and his team’s record is not very good on top of it…Eli has also thrown more INT’s then any other NFL QB since 2006 (something like that) …Eli didn’t win the SB by his lonesome.
What I’ve said all along is:
He’s innacurate. 24th in comp %
He’s a turnover machine: Leads league in fumbles and 4th in ints
Has a career 3.3% int rate: is at 3.2% this year
Is reckless and gets injured….he’s banged up right now…more than they’re letting on
Can’t read D…still can’t read D
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3 weeks since Vick threw a pick…
Just luck. Did you not see the run backwards spin-o-rama heave ho for a jump ball. Stupid. Being tackled by Ngata attempted heave – only Balt player in area. Stupid. The fact that the stupid throw didn’t get pick does not negate the fact he’s still making stupid throws.
*****HAD THE DB CAUGHT THAT PASS HE STILL WOULD OF BEEN OUT OF BOUNDS, FACT IS THERE WAS NO PICK AND HAS NOT BEEN A PICK…MANNING, BREES, RODGERS ALMOST THREW PICKS THIS PAST WEEKEND TOO.
Vick has led the team on 4 go ahead drives, something you said Vick can’t do.
In Cleveland his hit 2 cleveland players and put the ball on the turf – pure luck there wasn’t a turnover. Balt drive with stupid heave. YOu’re trying to Make Vick out to be some sort of Montana, when he’s been the luckiest SOB I’ve ever seen at QB. That will end very soon.
****NO QB HAS EVER ALMOST THROWN A PICK, ON A GAME WINNING DRIVE, VICK IS THE FIRST???
Vick is changing plays at the line, something you say Vick doesn’t do.
Vick is changing from passes to runs. Soething every high school QB is allowed to do.
****NOT QUITE, THAT’S WHAT YOU THINK
Vick against the blitz…
See: Cardinals, Arizona, last play before half.
***VICK IS THE ONLY QB TO GET SACKED OR PRESSURE BY A BLITZ RIGHT? DOUBLE STANDARD I TALK ABOUT! IN FACT THE RB WAS SUPPOSED TO PICK UP THAT BLITZ!
Vick is not going to 7 step drops all the time, seeing much more 3 step, something you say Vick can’t do, because of his height…
This actually a suprising development – go vick!
Once this turnover issue is cured, we won’t be hearing from Vinnie!
As if…..
****VICK IS SHUTTING YOU UP SLOWLY, BUT SURELY! FACE THE FACTS!
man real you really think vick is the man for the job! good for you.
out of curiousity do you think he is the guy that is gonna get this organization a superbowl? do you think he is the qb for our team for our next 3-5 years? last question were you a kolb supporter?
As for this ridiculousness…
“The truth of the matter is there is a double standard when it comes to Vick…I forget who the Sunday Night football announcers are…”
You’re damn right there’s a double standard.
For a whole segment on one of the pregame shows they argued that this:
60 of 100 (60%) for 594 4 tds 4 ints (0fumbles) was not getting it done for his team and should be benched
but
88 of 155 (57%) for 1146 4tds, 6 ints and 5 fumbles was “the only answer” for his team at QB
The first Wilson of Seattle…his numbers say – “must be benched”.
The second…Vick of course…his numbers for the talking heads say he’s the “only answer”
Stop listening to those bufoons and open your own eyes.
Vinnie there is a big difference…those Wilson stats shows me he has not moved the ball…Vicks numbers are double his…He can move the offense up and down the field…again your only complain for Vick currently are his fumbles!
@Mhenski – is there a first time for everything? At one point every QB started out with 0 SB’s. Every coach started out with 0 SB’s. If the Giants have the QB that has thrown the most INT’s since 2006, then why can’t our QB lead us to a SB?
Yes I think the Eagles can win a SB with Vick. Why wouldn’t I? How long Vick remains an Eagle depends on where the Eagles finish this season…
I supported Kolb when he played cheered when he made a good play and cursed when he made a bad play, the same as I do with Vick.. Did I like Kolb as the starter, NO…I would rather had the Eagles kept McNabb or start Vick at the time. But I never hated on Kolb as much of some of you guys hate on Vick. I didnt watch the games like a certain person, to see Kolb get hurt, or throw an INT or fumble or play badly….
Last post from me tonight! It’ll get better Eagles nation!
When its all said and done…I’d rather be the EAGLES FAN that says I told you we could win it…than the EAGLES FAN that says I told you we couldnt win it…
Bottom line!
I don’t watch the games to see (you’re implying ‘hope’) Vick throw an int or fumble. I just know its going to happen multiple times each game.
Its what he does.
And the sooner he’s out of here the better.
Love the intelligent conversation @Real @Vinnie @mhenski, at the end of the day I think we all want the same thing a Super Bowl win. I would hope the whole Eagle nation will cheer whoever the coach and QB is that gets that done whether it be Vick, Foles or some free agent to be named later!!!
Blah, blah, blah, blah. All the plays are important from the first to the last because they all contribute to the final outcome.
Turnovers only matter if you lose
Poor defense only matters if you lose
No sacks only matter if you lose
Poor play by a corner only matters if you lose
Poor special teams only matter if you lose
The eagles did all this and lossed and its no surprise to anyone given how many bad plays contributed to the loss.
Bottom line here is that the Eagles are exciting to watch with big-play ability, but they are still an average .500 team. It is what it is..
paulman we are not a big play team anymore.. the league has stopped us.. they know what we do.. all the plays are being made in the middle of the field and we dont really have the personal for that .. Thats why celek is having a good year.. but besides him who else is there. , avant. other teams got huge reciver that go over the middle or are tough .. like the giants and patriots.. nicks cruz barden..patriot are getting hernedez back and they have the monster gronk.. and wes welker is tough as hell.. i always though we should have kept danny amendola to be our wes welker.. why the hell wont the let mardy gilyard play .. we need some life in the offense