The Eagles were totally embarrassed by a bad Washington Redskins team. Getting beaten 31-6 by such a bad team means that the Eagles can’t be considered a legitimate NFL football team.
I know Reid and Mornhinweg were hoping Nick Foles would be able to help get the offense going against a mediocre Washington Redskins defense. That hope is no longer there. Foles had lot of problems executing the offense. He was going against one of the worst defenses in the NFL and still couldn’t get the job done.
Foles was 21-46 for 204 yards for a 44.5 completion percentage. He threw two interceptions and threw no touchdowns. The first interception wasn’t his fault. He was off target many times with his throws and was in jeopardy of having more interceptions.
Howard Mudd and the Eagles offensive line performed so poorly, they should have been left in Washington after the game. They were either jumping offsides, holding, or getting beaten for sacks the entire game.
I think the fact that Jake Scott, who was signed this week, was able to start over a healthy first round draft pick, Danny Watkins, says everything.
Birds tight end Brent Celek was given the chance this year to be a bigger part of the Birds offense, especially in the red zone. He’s been awful with dropped passes, dropped TD passes and pass interference penalties.
Eagles running back LeSean McCoy has to be more careful with the football in a situation where he’s running out the clock at the end of the half. He was holding the football like he was out in the open field, despite the fact that he was cutting back in the middle of a crowd.
Eagles new defensive coordinator Todd Bowles is making Juan Castillo look like a great defensive coordinator. Today his defense let rookie Robert Griffin III complete of 14 of 15 passes for 200 yards with four touchdowns and no interceptions for a 158.3 passer rating. How could any decent defensive coordinator let a rookie quarterback complete that high of a percentage of their passes? The Eagles defense under Castillo gave up some comebacks late in games, but the defense under Bowles starts out the game poorly and gets worse as the game goes along.
Eagles cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha has been horrible in the secondary. Last week he missed a tackle on Felix Jones’ touchdown run which was unforgivable. This week he turned Redskins wide receiver Aldrick Robinson totally loose. This has been happening all season long. Asomugha is always turning somebody loose in the secondary.
Eagles defensive end Jason Babin did get a sack, but the defensive line was virtually nonexistent most of the day. RG III had all day on most of the passing plays.
His battery mate, Trent Cole should have been benched earlier in the season. He’s not even getting close to get a sack nowadays. If they would have sat down some of these defensive ends at the beginning of the season, it might have gotten the attention of the rest of the guys on the defensive line. The rules should be if you do not produce, you will not play.
Mychal Kendricks has hit the rookie wall in a very bad way, he’s going backwards as a player. He doesn’t get off blocks any more and doesn’t have the burst in his legs. The youngster used to close on ball carriers, but now he has ball carriers run away from him a consistent basis.
Eagles safety Kurt Coleman was totally overwhelmed by Redskins receivers. He’s just too small to be an effective NFL safety.
Nate Allen isn’t a NFL caliber safety either. He’s not aggressive enough, doesn’t hit hard and he’s always a day late and a dollar short. I’m really disappointed in him because he never seems to get his hands on the football. This isn’t a good thing to say about a safety.
The most troubling thing about Allen is the fact that it reminds me we’re going to have the organization run by the guy who drafted Allen and Watkins, Howie Roseman. This is the number one issue for the Eagles going forward. How can you turn this organization over to Roseman?
I still cant believe as bad as Cole and some other D-linemen have been playing, Vinny Curry cant even dress for the game let alone get on the field. G, what is up with that? The guy looked pretty decent in the pre-season.
At this point its time to see what these draft picks can do, put Marsh in there along with Curry and anybody else thats still on the team from the past few drafts, we have to evaluate these players and see what they can do so we know who stays n who goes besides the obvious players we already know are out of here.
G……. I agree with everything but isn’t it very obvious that Nnamdi turned the receiver to the middle of the field because he was expecting help? Whether that wasn’t the play is different than bad technique. From the beginning of the route he just looked to keep him on the inside. As I said, I agree with the other stuff but your point there doesn’t make sense because that most likely wasn’t his fault.
I agree with you; It seems like there is some type of miscue in the secondary every game and its hard to tell if Nnamdi is really this bad or if the safeties are making him look it.
@Scorp you’re exactly right, Nnamdi was expecting inside help…He did his job on the play
Excelkent post and spot on G-Nan
I’ve stated this. Few times, everyone needs to renember thatvCoach AR is all the President of Football Operations which means he gets final say on Player Personnel, Draft Picks and Overall Roseter Nabagement so when he gets fired on Dec 31stv(the Mobday after their final game) not only do the Eaglez need a HC and Staff, but they need a competent Football mind to become President and oversee the Football Opeartions for their is no way in hell that Rosenan is capable of doing this
Owner Lurie should be on the phone talking to the Bill Polians, Tony Dungys, Herm Edwards, Ron Jaworski, Mike Mayock and whoever else for he only needs to concentrated on hiring the right person for the President of Foitball Operations and then that person go out and hire a Coaching Staff,
Meanwhile the Eagles are stuck with Rosenan since he has 4 Years left on his contracmt but I would relegate Rosenan to handle Contracts, Salary Cap Nabagement but please jeep him away from all Player Oersonnel, Ralent evaluation, Draft and Free Agency and gave the new President of Football Ooerations do these things.. Let the next HC focus on 1 thing and 1 thing only and that’s coaching his Team
Reid holds the dual title of Head Coach/EXECUTIVE Vice President Of Football Operations. THAT is my greatest fear. Everyone is reading too much into that Lurie statement about eight and eight being “unacceptable”. No where in that statement did I see an “or else”. Too many people have liberally translated that to mean Reid will be fired. First of all, Like the lion in Alice In Wonderland, Limp-Wrist Lurie seems too cowardly to confront Reid about the subject of relieving him of his duties. Ol’ Limp-Wrist appears intimidated and threatened by the very hulking presence of Reid. Lurie, it seems, has practically turned the whole team over to Reid as seen in his delegation of all things football to this man. Seriously. Let’s not forget, Reid still holds that bothersome dual title of Head Coach/Executive Vice President of Player Operations. That title troubles me. It could give Limp-Wrist an excuse to kick Reid ‘upstairs’ to what appears to be , a powerful and sovereign, player personnel, offensive play, and maybe even new Head Coach meddling perch. It’s not unrealistic to think he could influence those decisions, including the selection of the next Head Coach, (MORONWEG ANYONE?) because he wouldn’t actually be stepping down (up) any further than the front office. You think it’s bad now. What will Head Coach Moronweg do when left to his own devices? What’d we do then? I see boycott as the only effective solution in that case.
Love it Paulman…….we, as is the case most of the time, are seeing eye to eye. It just makes sense. These performances don’t make much sense at all. Stop the excuses, and make the right decisions period. C’mon Lurie!!!!!!!!!!
BUT YEAH MICHAEL VICK IS THE PROBLEM AND WHY WERE LOSING 🙂 GOT TO LOVE EAGLES FANS. YOU WANTED KOLB OVER MCNABB AND FOLES OVER VICK. LMAO FANBASE IS PATHETIC. ANDY IS THE PROBLEM
Thorough and well deserved indictment of a putrid football team
The eagles would have to improve alot to be called putrid
The Eagles would have to improve a lot to be called a football team
If the Redskins are “bad”, then what does that say about the Eagles? Nothing this team does shocks me anymore other than them actually winning. This coach should be fired now! Foles should start the rest of the season regardless of what happens. The Eagles need to see if Foles can be a quarterback of the future or is he just another bad Howie Roseman pick. Roseman should also be shown the door.
brent celek has become a liability , coaching has been a liability , i would say the only position not of need is RB brown and havilli seem capable backups ! yet we refuse to run the ball . this coaching staff is weekly getting out-coached and embarrassed
DRC- “Eagles are still the most talented team in the NFL” LOL
These players actually think they have accomplished something None of them accomplished jack squat. These players in their heads believe they are the best at their position to the point where I dont think they have a clue about how much they suck.
I’m beginning to see that football players on this team have an uncanny and almost unnatural skill at self-hypnosis unseen in the annals of psychology. They should be studied by scientist to see what practical application this has in the REAL WORLD.
Now if only that inducement could be transposed into real-time on-the-field physicality, we’d be all set.
Eagles should draft logan thomas and sign Matt Flynn and have Foles, Thomas and Flynn duel it out for the job.
Where’s Logan Thomas, the kid from Stanford..
He’s only a Freshman or a red-Shirt Sophomore and not eligible for the 2013 Draft
I have been impressed with QB Florence from Baylor
Not sure what year he’s in though
QB Edwards is signed thru 2013 and will be aroubd with Foles next Summer Camp
Serious question here…what has Foles done thus far to show he deserves to be the starting QB of the Eagles next season? Start Edwards!
Logan Thomas VT. Junior I believe.
My bad, he’s had a very up and down SeSon this year, but definitely has some upside.. I do thing he’s a Junior but he may coming early
The QB from Clemson (Boyd) is a player with upside. I think he throws one of nicest deep balls in College Ball
Who knows, maybe they bring in Tim Tebow and run the triple Wing Option set and run the ball 50 Times a game with MCCoy, Brown and Tebow sharing the Ball .. Good Grief..
“Eagles Are Blown Out By A Bad Redskins Football Team” Who proof reads for you guys? If the Eagles were blown out by a ‘bad’ football team, what does that make the Eagles? You make it sound as though we’re talking about the Patriots here.
A better header would have been, “The Eagles Were Blown Out By The Redskins”. Do you see how oxymoronic that seems to the rest of the football world? Sheese!!
The Redskins will be Wild-Card Contenders next Season where the Eagles have a long, long, long way to go before any Playoffs happen
Maybe not. I”m still a big Jon Gruden fan and firmly believe in his coaching abilities. Oh sure, there may be a settling in period of a year or two but, I’m willing to bet, a coach of the stature of Gruden would take this team, with a few tweaks, to the Super Bowl and WIN it in less, much less, than FOURTEEN YEARS.
so whats the draft looking like this up coming year? man we are terrible
Dear Andy,
Please retire!
Dear Eagles,
You can cut p[layers mid season you know…Like MAKE A STATEMENT..I am not worried another team will pick up King Dunlap or Namdi Cantseemtoplaysowell before the season ends.
Seriously put in the paractice squad. I predict Vick and McCoy maybe Maclin all are on the Season Ending IR within 2 weeks. Why play for this guy! I wouldn’t go out there and risk my career if I were a vet. Nope I would join the Softies in the tub and rehab squad. Time for the practice squad to multiply.
Oh and playing / signing more players off of practice squads may help us find 1 or 2 guys that have seen NFL football played before.
The Eagles need draft picks. It would be in their best interest to fix the offensive line. Forget the Quarterback. Foles would be fine in front of a better line with better coaching, system, and scheme.
Paul this is GMCliffs wish list draft:
1A. Star Lotululei 6-4 335lb DT Utah
1B. Manti Te’o 6-3 253lb MLB/OLB Notre Dame
1C. Keenan Allen 6-3 218lb 4.3 40 WR California
2A. Kenny Vaccaro 6-2 220 4.4 40 S Texas
2B DJ Fluker 6-5 335 OG/OT Alabama
2C. Jonathan Cooper 6-3 320 C North Carolina
2D. Larry Warford 6-3 340 OG Kentucky
3A. Jonathan Brown 6-2 235 4.4 40 Illinois
3B Kaheem Greene 6-2 225 SS Rutgers
3C. Travis Fredricks 6-4 328 OG/OT Wisconsin
4A. Kareem Martin 6-5 270 DE North Carolina
4B. Alvin Bailey 6-4 325 OG Arkansas
4C. Michael Williams 6-5 275 TE Alabama
5A Alex Hurst 6-5 345 OG LSU
5B Ray Ray Armstrong 6-3 225 S
6. Jelani Jenkins 6-3 235 OLB Florida
Jonathan Brown is an OLB
Hey Gmcliff russell wilson made an NFL roster.. what happened?
Llarrwd, I do admit Russell Wilson did way better than I could imagine. But, I still don’t think he is that good. He is on one of the teams he would need to be on to have a chance to play. There was no one competing for that Job; Matt Flynn was obviously a product of the Packers System. He would have started in Arizona too. Keep in mind Cam Newton played better than I thought he did his rookie year….and the league caught up to him, and he his better than Wilson. Congratulations to him, but I say it was an aberration…..check back with me next year.
Looks pretty Good GMCliff
I’ll post up a group of picks for the First few Rounds later on today
Eagles need help all along this Roster (DT, OT. Safety, LB,CB,
WR & TE )
Paul, where I see some of the better corners in the draft forcasted, there are stronger needs available. So it would depend on what direction the new coach wants to go with that. I’m not sure if I would sign DRC, sign a free agent, or make a trade; possibly for a Darelle Revis?
I would take a Very Strong run a Ryan Clady, and if Peters is able to go next year, put him at RT. If Peters can’t go, I would have drafted DJ Fluker, and I have better talent to play at Guard, and Center.
Kurt Coleman, Akeem Jordan, and maybe Nate Allen are strictly Special Teams Players; although Jordan could fill in at LB, in case of injury for 1 game.
Here are some free agents to keep an eye on for the Eagles:
Ryan Clady – OT – Denver
Dane Fletcher MLB – New England
Will Smith – DE- New Orleans
Ron Brace – DT – New England
Terrance Knighton – DT – Jacksonville
Daryll Smith – OLB/MLB – Jacksonville
Tracy Porter – CB – Denver
Aquib Talib – CB- New England
suprising thought after yesterday i would keep riley cooper . once merriwether hammered harbor i figured a slow day for our soft recievers seems like cooper was the only one to show emotion
Words can’t even explain this team right now…so I won’t even try. It would just make me more frustrated. We are witnessing the deconstruction of the Eagles as we know them. What’s coming next… time will tell, but I couldn’t take being a bottom dweller year after year.
I live in the MD/DC/VA area now and wear my Eagles lanyard with my badges at work. I put my lanyard in my drawer a few minutes ago… just embarrassing this team. I just don’t see the fight.
Celek has taken too many hard hits and they have caught up to him
Bring back Banner and Castillo
As far as Vick passing too much before he was injured–check out his passes per game against Brady–Rodgers–Peyton–Romo–Big Ben –Rivers –Ryan
They are right in line
The only thing that came out of this game is that Vick has now been exonerated. NO QB can play well behind that horrendous offensive line! NO QB! I don’t care WHO you are! This isn’t a hit on Foles either because I think he has the tools to be a legitimate NFL QB…..but Vick was getting bashed for things he had no control over!
Fire Andy, keep Vick!
@Birdo – hahahahaheehehe – no way, it was all Vick’s fault!!! I’m just waiting for one of these Vick bashers to defend Foles by saying “the O Line sucks” or “defense can’t stop anyone” or “the play calling was terrible”….just waiting…
Realtalk — they won’t come. They just drank a dose of their own medicine. They thought they knew this team and they don’t.
This team is bad because it doesn’t have a coach that REQUIRES their 100% ALL of the time. These guys don’t care about Andy or their city. At least when Vick is out there, he’s TRYING to do his best, he’s TRYING to WIN because that’s just the competitor he is. Bring in Chip Kelly next year so he can bring that Oregon offense in and have it run by the only NFL offense that could possibly run it.
vinnietheevictor
November 18, 2012 – 1:20 pm
Would be nice if the team could try to help the rook out a bit. SOlid drive being ruined
vinnietheevictor
November 18, 2012 – 1:26 pm
Interceptions on 3rd and 21 are bad, but not back breaking
vinnietheevictor
November 18, 2012 – 1:49 pm
Could the D:
a)..take beter angles…I mean 95 just gave up the sideline to RGIII
b) stop with the wimpy arm tackles
vinnietheevictor
November 18, 2012 – 3:26 pm
4th or 5th “drop” when a wr/te gets hit. Step up.
It is distinctly possible the Eagles go DB with the first pick in the draft.
Both DRC and Nnamdi have to go….
New record for holding penalties?
on the flip side…why isn’t Foles getting hit like Vick does I wonder?
I can answer this question….why isn’t Foles getting hit like Vick does I wonder?
Because Foles only took one deep shot d
down the field, on a pass thrown out of bounds to DJAX, thats why…as stated all year long, route that take time to develop with the O Line the Eagles have, leads to hits on the QB…fortunately for Foles, MM did not call many deep routes…or if he did, Foles just didn’t wait for them to develop…
We’ll be here, but we won’t be doing what you think. Unlike Vick fans…I don’t look for excuses.
The game was a tale of 2 halfs.
In the first, the kid apopointed himself very well. He was asked to pass 24x, and of those he made 2 bad decisions.
The first was the interception on 3rd and 21
The second was on a screen to Shady that the Wsh D had blown up. Throw shouldn’t have been made.
He was sacked 1x in 24 atts, and I believe only on the turf one other time after a throw.
Other than that, the kid was pretty sharp. They were moving the ball, though troubles in Redzone again apparant.
The only “excuse” I will give is that Eagles’ WRs were not helping the kid out at all, dropping several excellent passes, including Celek vollying the ball to a Wsh defender. (And no, this was not like the Atlanta pick 6. That throw was hight and away and hard to get to – thus tipped. This ball was right on Celek’s hands)
The second half was a different story…especially as the game got out of hand. Eagles had abandoned the run (as usual) and the kid had a lot of trouble against the rush.
Got skittish…rushed his throws and missed WRs all over the place. Really evident on a couple of outs that he hurried and threw 5 yrds ahead of the WRs.
Was sacked 3x in the second half.
So an up and down performance. Solid first half, poor second half as the game slipped away. Very similar to McNabbs first start 50% 165 1td and 2 ints also in a blowout loss.
But lots of positives to take away from the first half.
And enough with Vick already. He’s gone. And done. I doubt he will make a starting NFL roster next year. So move on already.
vinnie….”The game was a tale of 2 halfs”
yup… in the first half the eagles scored 3 points.
in the second they scored 3.
This blog makes me laugh.,… vick… foles. bla bla bla bla….
Get me a DC and an Oline stat and we will watch this team get better.
Starts on the lines boys… it starts on the lines.
Sure…. if we had a Tom Brady or a Aaron Rogers on our team we could get by and score a few points but usually…. even the super stars have something on the field with them….. Brady has a coach…. Rogers has a Clay. What do we have?
Lets look around the league at some of the teams that dont have HOF’s at the helm.
Alex smith has a solid D. Some of the best LB’s in the game play for San Fran.
ATl is an all around good team. They play solid fundamental football…on both sides.
I could do this all day. Who are the top teams right now? Houston… Atl…Bears….Pack…. NO MOST of those teams do not have superstars at the QB position. MOST of them have solid coaching, a good D, and a well rounded game plan.
Guess what Vinnie he’ll probably start Monday night you cannot put a unproven rookie behind that o-line you’ll learn nothing. Please read that bs column by Hoffman over at the daily news already with the excuses.
Sis, Foles doesn’t deserve to be the starter of this Eagles team moving forward….Solid first half 2 INT’s in the first half…ok…nothing but dink and dunk passes for the entire first half…Fact Foles is not McNabb…Foles isn’t even Vick! yea why did Foles get skittish cause the O Line? after he got hit a few times, he got skittish… strange how the play of the O Line impacts a QB, huh?
Vinnie I read your post from earlier or yesterday and it was full of excuses…you selectively ignorant dumb ass!
The first half was full of screens WR and RB, dink and dunk passes…give me a break! you dont know shit about football!
LMAO Vinnie is an idiot. If you think Foles did enough to convince the Eagles brass that they should move on from Vick, you’re dumber than I thought. If anything, he convinced them that he’s not ready to be an NFL starting QB nor is he ready to take the reigns from Vick.
I’m convinced Reid will be gone, hopefully being replaced by Chip Kelly. I’m also now convinced that Vick will be back. Lurie can see that he wasn’t the problem now. If anything, that game yesterday (against the WORST secondary in the NFL statistically) helped Vick keep his job.
Foles may not make it but there is no way Vick is back. They need to rebuild a 20 million qb who is not a top 10 qb, he will be 33! I wish you would put 1000$ bet on that, damn
Rebuild? The Eagles have the talent, they are not or will they be in rebuilding mode…new coaches may be just what the team needs on both sides of the ball, as well as a healthy O Line…The players that will be on this team next year, aint trying to hear no shit about rebuilding…
I second that, he is an idiot!
Again Showing Vick fans instead of Eagles fans. Good to see bird and Realstupid reveling in this loss. Vick is a bad qb and he should start the rest of the season for this bad team. Why let a rookie get killed? I dont know if he’s good or bad but what does it matter? You wont give him a fair shake because you need to protect Vick. Vick has played for 10 years he’s done hold on if you want but the eagles stink, they quit, they are done. This is a lost season, an embarrassment.
@Xevious, just stick to playing your video games…have you hit puberty yet? you are a retard if anything we are showing we are true Eagles fans, because Vick gives this team a better chance at winning than any of the QB on this team! your support for benching Vick, shows that you don’t give a shit about this team winning football games…look at it how you want to…..its ok for you to give your opinions of the game when Vick was in as QB…just trying to shed light that Vick can’t be fully blamed because the same issues exists, even with a different QB…But of course you don’t want to hear that, your dislike for Vick is greater than his play on the field…you bitch ass hypocrite….
The only hypocrit here is you Realtalk. You think calling names and making racial Stereotyoes towards people are effective arguments.(and yes calling IrishEagle drunk all the time is a racial stereotype). Also your the first to start the racial BS. I have said from Day 1 Vick is a bad QB and He is. You always say no superbowls and Yeah we arent gonna win a superbowl with Vick. So we need to move on. Your not an Eagles fan because you make it personal about Vick. You wanna have an intelligent discussion about the Eagles Ill do it. But I will call you out everytime you wanna curse people out for not agreeing with your opinion and use racial stereotypes your hypocrisy ends today.
Referring to me as realstupid, qualifies as calling names, doesn’t it…don’t get upset because I gave it back, bitch! you call me a name I’ll return the favor….you are upset that my opinion on who the QB should be is different than yours bottom line….you dont know me, I was an Eagles fan before Vick arrived and will continue to be when he departs…my fault for wanting the best QB on the Eagles roster to play the game..my fault for wanting Nick Foles to earn the starting job instead of it being given to him…Also for the record, IrishEalge sounds like a drunken bastard, with his comments, so I’ll call it as I see it…and you having the name of a video game, is the reason for my puberty comment…call me out, bitch, I’ll give it back 100%…you don’t know shit about football…my point from day 1 has been there are way more issues with this team than Vick….you are one of those that blamed Vick for everything under the sun…now a different QB is in, I just want everyone to take note to the still existing issues of the football team since the scapegoat did not suit up…We need to move on? to what Foles? just like we did with Kolb? We can move on as long as the option is better than the existing…bottom line!
It’s called a screenname you stooge. Keeping it real is the last thing you do, most oxymoronic screen name in the history of screennames belongs to you. To be frank, I tried in the past to have a discussion with you and all I get back is defensive name calling. I have determined that you live in your own world and need to attack people that disagree with you. Since my best friend was a Vick supporter and we have debated for a few years, I know all the arguments. I can have an agument with out being calling people out constantly. I understand your passionate…but so am I. I believe what I type.
“nothing but dink and dunk passes for the entire first half…Fact ”
Exactly like the gameplan they ran vs Atlanta.
“If anything, that game yesterday (against the WORST secondary in the NFL statistically) helped Vick keep his job.”
Uh-huh…because Vick’s performance vs the equally inept Saints was soo much better.
“I’m also now convinced that Vick will be back.”
Wrong. You hoping something ridiculous will happen does not make it so. It is an absolute guarantee that Vick will not be on the Eagles next year. It is also very doubtful he will be named starter of another NFL team ever again.
Chip Kelly’s system will not be adopted (in its current form) in the NFL. No team owner is going to put his most important (and more importantly most expensive) asset into a system that sees him getting hit (on purpose) over 30% of the time.
What have we learne3d? That this system isn’t working under either Vick or Foles (yet). SO what owner, coach, GM, exec would then ever choose the broken down 32 yr old QB over the 23 yr old kid if the results are the same??
Again, the Eagles are filled with issues. QB is always the first to fix. Vick stinks. Hopefully Foles will improve. Then they can move on to OL, DL, DBs etc…..but those are changes that will take several years to fix.
Bottom line is this…the Eagles O Line is horrendous…you stated they would look so much better with Foles in at QB, well they didn’t! now you are hoping that Vick doesn’t start anywhere else…you are a hater, bottom line…Problem is the 23 year old kid faces the same issues Vick had and only was able to put up 6 points? STFU….Maybe Foles is the real deal, but he hasn’t shown me anything to be excited about or anything that screams “franchise QB”…
Real- yup. That was the argument… although he has/will change it. Over and over against he has stated this team would be better under foles. it is not.
I watched the Steelers/Ravens game last night and it hit me… as it does everytime they play….. THAT is football. I love to see a man make a tackle. I love watching the field position chess match, I love watching D players that not only have a “high motor” but also some talent.. and a big waist. Those teams have heart… and are always fundamentally good at their positions. I pray that whoever comes in here values lines… and run games and D.
Most NFL people have the win now mentality Vinnie so yes they will take their chances with Vick over an unproven rookie.
No Chip Kelly please.. We just had 14 Years of dink,dunk, small but fast players..Did you see what a Physical Defense like Stanford has does to Chip Kelley’s “College Spread Offense”.. It’s stops them in their tracks just like NFL Pro Defenses do.. No Chip Kelly, No SPread, dink or dunk offense with small and fast guys.. Eagles need a disciplinarian, tough hard nosed Football Coach and no more of this “Offensive Genuis” Bullshit we have just had here for the last 14 Years.. Back to Basics, Keep it sImple, Line up and beat the player across from you, Get back to controlling the line of scrimmage for until this happens, Eagles remain a bad team no matter who is QB or who their Skill Players are…
finally something you’ve stated I agree with!…lol
You clowns would have benched Aikman midway through his 1-15 season I suppose.
The line did look better for the entire first half…you didn’t see that? 4 of the 5 drives were over 3 plays, and the only 3-out was off Celek’s bumble. They were moving the ball rather well. No points. Foles only hit the turn 2x in the half.
Kid got overwhelmed in the second half. No big deal. It was his first start.
Anyway, the idea that Foles is having the same issues as Vick, is not a condemnation of Foles…its a condemnation of Vick.
Listen. Vick has had a decade worth of chances, and second chances. He cocked it up. Its over.
Reid allegedly wanted to move to Foles weeks ago. Why I wonder?
Reports out there indicate MM hates Vick as a QB. Thinks he’s an idiot.
Despite what your/my feelings might be on those 2, their word carries weight (pardon the punm) around the NFL.
Vick is going to find it very difficult finding another starting job in the NFL.
Anyway…I said I wasn’t going to write any more about Vick because he will no longer be on the Eagles next year, but you clowns keep pulling me back in.
Reid allegedly wanted to move to Foles weeks ago. Why I wonder?
Reports out there indicate MM hates Vick as a QB. Thinks he’s an idiot.
uhhhh…What reports from who, where ?…If you got Intel give it up
otherwise stop making up shit
There is no way Owner Lurie will keep Vick and especially at his $20 Million Contract.. You have to remember that Lurie/Banner were not keen in bringing in VIck to begin with and it was the lobbying efforts of Coach AR and McNabb that allowed the opportunity to have Vick as an Eagle to begin with..
With Coach AR and his Staff GOne, So is VIck, this is a 100% call that you can take to the bank… Remember Lurie is not a Football Guy, He trusts his Employees that he places in Accountable/Repsonsible Positions and he will let whoever the next PResident of Football Operations and HC determine who the next QB is … I guarantee it will not be Mike Vick..
There is no Allegiance to Vick from anyone left in the Organization
Vinnie please we pulled you back in? Foles will be fine just give him Irvin , Emmit and Erik Williams like Aikman had to work with.
Nothing more idiotic than comparing a NFL veteran with over a decade of experience to a guy making the first start of his NFL career. And to make them sound more retarded then they already are, what do you think that veteran would have done differently in this game? Let me guess, probably turn the ball over too. Probably get hurt because he is the most injury prone QB in the league. Can go on and on but its not even worth it.
Cant wait to the offseason…better see some real changes around here from top to bottom or Lurie will have an empty stadium come next year
And yes, if you are an Eagles fan you play Foles the rest of the way this season. its common sense. Vick gives you the better chance to win? WHAT THE FUCK are you planning on winning this year? Seriously, what exactly is going through your fucking heads about this team to want to start a guy that will not be on this team next year. (and my point goes for all the overpriced/overrated veterans that will not be on this team next year…you bench Nnamdi/Babin too and Play Vinny Curry and see what Boykin can do on the outside etc.) I even bench Trent Cole for the majority of the game(even though he will be back) to play Graham the majority of the snaps. I hate BG as a player but let the guy try and prove me wrong.
The short term of the team is done for. We already know what the short term is. We need to figure out the long term…True Eagles fans care about the long term of this team because the short term is already known. You plays Foles the rest of the way to see whether or not you need to draft Geno Smith. You play Vunny Curry the rest of the way to see if you need to waste a high draft pick on another DE..
@pheags88 – Most injury prone QB in the league? you are full of shit…one of the toughest QB’s in the league I’ll give you that…considering all of the hits the veteran QB has taken behind this awful O Line….I mean get real…also, there is no comparing the QB’s what is being compared is the O Line play protecting both QB’s and the O Line protection is terrible no matter who the QB is…only thing more idiotic than comparing a veteran to a rookie, is fans that don’t understand that no QB can play behind this O Line and the play calling…its as simple as that…But if you want to take it there and say what Vick would have done differntly, I guarantee he would not have had 21 of 46 passes completed…and when plays broke down, he would of picked up a few first downs running the ball…again another closed minded fan, talking straight out of their ass!
Vinnie- “You clowns would have benched Aikman midway through his 1-15 season I suppose.”
There it is… just as ive stated…. the argument switch.
Vinnie… this has nothing to do with what Foles may or may not be in the future ( Foles is Aikman btw? wow.. what an leap of faith that is) this has to do with NOW. Until last week this team was still in it. You’ve been calling for the rook for months. you said he would be better NOW.