Everybody’s hearing and talking about Oregon Ducks head coach Chip Kelly being the number choice of the Philadelphia Eagles after they let Andy Reid and his staff go on Monday. There’s also been stories floating around that Kelly is the number one choice of the Carolina Panthers.
Of course the Panthers have talented young quarterback Cam Newton, who would seem to fit Kelly offense, which features speed at the quarterback position. Newton would seem to be a better choice than Eagles young quarterback Nick Foles. I wonder if Kelly would be interested in taking a look at Michael Vick, who has a lot of mileage on his body.
If Kelly continues his system of signaling in the offensive adjustments to the quarterback from the sidelines, when the offense is at the line of scrimmage, it will take some of the pressure of the team’s quarterbacks to make so many decisions at the line of scrimmage.
I’m interested in seeing how Kelly’s system will work against the speed of NFL defenses. I think Kelly’s system will force NFL defenses to change their personnel on the defensive line. The speed of his offensive skill position players and the rapidity of the plays will force teams to get smaller on the defensive line. It could reduce the use of huge nose tackles. Big players, especially big defensive linemen will tire out and be totally ineffective against that hurry-up offense.
I could see him having a problem with keeping his quarterbacks healthy. It will be difficult to let the big linebackers and defensive linemen in the league pound on a quarterback without eventually knocking him out of the game.
Ooooh Great, the next QB-Killer comes to Philly after just going thru 14 Years of an unbalanced, small but fast-gimmicky Offensive scheme where toss backs, reverses,pass backs in the Red-Zone are signs of Genius which actualyl causes more Turnovers and a less chance to actually Score TD.. Let’s Keep it Simple for the next HC and their Offensive Scheme and rely on Execution,Fundamentals and Toughness.. Enough of this “Genius Coaching”.. ..
I will no longer be an Eagle Fan if Eagles hire Chip Kelly
I dont buy that Pman. Once the moves start and the blood gets flowing you will be there. Eagles fans have no choice.
I wanted him but now im not so sure. I really want a tough guy. Guy like Jim Harnbaugh. I want this team to smack people in the mouth. If chip is smart he comes in then hires. Rex ryan as a D coordinator if the jets let him go. Rex isnt the best head coach. But the guy is a defensive genius.
exactly Pman. I cant believe we are even talking about that. We need to picket or something. If Lurie is even thinking this we need to stop him.
I DONT WANT THIS STYLE ANYMORE!!!!! IN FACT>>>> I NEVER DID!!!!
Right and the 20 year waiting line for season tickets will shrink to 19.5 years with your pickets
I would love to see Chip Kelly as long as the right defensive guy comes in to turn this defense around.
Bring in Horton from Arizona to be the defensive/asst head coach and we’ll be ready to blow the lid off the wide open NFC East.
Vick can restructure his deal and maximize his talent in a spread option offense.
Right some new HC wants to tie his wagon to a 32 year old injury prone qb who is 10-15 in his last 25…. No way
G Cobb Chip is not worried about the QB position if the Eagles give him the same power they gave Reid Chip Kelley will be our next head coach the Eagles have been talking to him for a while about this position so I think the wheels have already been in motion. Carolina have Cam Newton but not much else on offense Steve Smith is a declining WR and the RBs are past there prime. I think Chip Kelly can adapt to the way Nick Foles play the Eagles offense would look similar to the Patriots running the no huddle offense Nick Foles is a bright kid who studies a lot of film and will be able to learn all the plays to run Chip offense but I don’t know if Vick can do that
From what I here Chip Kelley demands Execution,Fundamentals and Toughness in his players
It would be nice to have a coach that DEMANDS that for once.
I don’t see OWner Lurie ever again giving so much Authority/Power/Decision Making to 1 Person as far as Football Matters again.. He’s learned with the
AR Experience that it’s too much for 1 Person to handle and that PLayer Personnel/Scouting/Drafting should remain separate from Coaching, Let the Coaches Coach and Stress their Schemes,Fundamentals,Game plans and let the GM Handling the Drafting/Scouting/Player Peronnel Areas…
will any head coach come into Philly believing Nick Foles will be better than RG3, Eli Manning or Tony Romo in the division ?
I say NO – and who ever is hired will want to upgrade the position
Nick Foles’ arm is not as strong as Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers, or Eli Manning —- he might be able to out smart or develop a quick release like Peyton, Brady or Brees but that is a long shot ( these are the QB’s that have won the the ring recently)
LOL LOL, amazing how you folks believe you are in control of this billion dollar organization, simply amazing. I guess the thought of having Kelly who (you folks belieive) would more than likely want Vick over Foles made you change your minds. I get the true feelin you folks won’t get to do the picking….Thank God
Amen
Well the wait is almost over…One painful game and then Monday Big Red will be Dead. I think if the Eagles and Kelly have been talking then Kelly would have been onboard with playing Foles the last 5 games. Just a hunch. Well see soon though.
The talk I hear is that Kelly loves foles, would run a variation of his system in Oregon to suite foles’ strengths, execution at the line of scrimmage, accurate on the short to medium throws, Vick is not the candidate to run this offense where you need a coach playing quarterback like Peyton manning, a decision maker at the line of scrimmage, If kelly demands excellence with fundamentals, brings in a punishing defensive minded coordinator, we can warm up to this idea of chip Kelly, and change the uniforms back to hunter or Kelly green
completely agreed
Turk I’m so sorry to disappoint you, but if Kelley has a choice between Cam Newton and Nick Foles – he’s going with Cam Newton. Newton is the reason he doesn’t have a National Championship. Newton is a franchise QB – Nick Foles not so much. Also, Kelley isn’t likely to get the control he wants with Philly with Roseman asserting his power now that Reid is (most likely) out. However Carolina did fire their GM mid-season and has not placed him…maybe ’cause they knew they were gonna court Kelley hard and wanted to ripen the deal with personnel control.
Newton…the guy who 6 games ago was basically crying in front of a national audience and who the GM was fired for selecting, and who was this close to be run out of town?
OK then.
?
Ok then.
Newton has been on fire won 4 of last 5 games .. He has the highest qb rating in the NFL over the last 6 games..
good thngk the fanbase/ownership game him a year and a half to develop….
He wasn’t a third round pick either, how long did they give Clausen?
You know not all quarterbacks blossom at the same time give foles a chance dammit.
0kay so he hasn’t been a Wilson, Rg3, or luck. Doesn’t mean he won’t get there soon. Patience people patience.
LMAO
Vinnie you are SOOOO predictable…
“who the GM was fired for selecting, and who was this close to be run out of town?”
Um..the GM was fired for selecting Newton? Who was almost run out of town? You are a laugh riot
Newton threw for over 400 yards his first two games in the NFL with NO preseason. Newton – the reason why Kelly doesn’t have a national championship. Newton who has more passing yards of any QB in their first two seasons ever.
That Newton.
If you think Foles could even begin to compare you are seriously smoking something. And I’d like to know what it is ’cause it’s some POWERFUL ish.
“good thngk the fanbase/ownership game him a year and a half to develop….”
They didn’t give him a year and half to develop…did you see his stats last year…what has Foles done to even compare? He’s a number one over all pick…who looks like a number one overall pick…Foles looks like the third round pick he is.
No comparison.
pdiddy?
Wasn’t wilson on the board when the Eagles picked Foles?
Didn’t the Eagles bring Wilson to the Novacare in the offseason?
What genius thought Foles was better?
SONGS, Seattle picked Wilson- 3rd round, 75th pick, the Birds took Foles- 3rd round, 88th pick. So you’re wrong. The mistake they made, was not trading up a bit, to get him. They also should have drafted Bobby Wagner & Lavonte David, instead of Kendricks, & Curry. But, all & all, this years draft, seems to be OK. Let’s hope these idiots don’t F^#@ up the upcoming draft. Hope for a loss on Sunday, but they’ll somehow F^#@ that up too!!
NOOOOOO CHIP KELLY, DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!
Never been a big fan of crap music…sorry rap music.
But this one is a classic on youtube….
“fire andy hit rap song”
Michele Pick…hilarious
Word is that Chip Kelly sant’s full Control of Player Personnel as well As Coaching , etc, etc. this will not happen with the Eagles whose owner Lurie
Is skeptical about giving 1 person total authority over the Football Ops (like he did with Andy Reid)
Meanwhile Panthers Owner Bill Richardson is getting older, has health issues,
And wants to a see a Super Bowl before passing. He fired his longtime GM mid season and even fired his 2 Sons from positions from the Footvall side of things from the Panthers. I believe will land in Carolina and that Richardson will ask if current HC Ron Rivera will head up the Defense as DC and Asst HC which he will probably decline but could be a win-win for all involved side Rivera
Probably won’t get any real interest for a HC at this time
Paulman, if Reid had control over all operations, how do you explain the press conference after the Detroit game , I believe on a Monday, repeatedly stated, defiantly, mocking the reporters, ” don’t you guys understand English, Kevin kolb is the starting quarterback”, then I believe the very next day, in his typical, quiet, grunts, groans, announces that mike Vick is the starting quarterback
Reid was always lurie’s stooge
Reid on monday, during the scheduled press conference, “maybe I am using bad English but Kevin kolb is the starting quarterback, then,
In a hastily non scheduled press conference the next day Reid states “well I a m obviously here to announce that mike Vick is the starting quarterback”
That is just coaches speak. They never tell the press or us what is really going on… None of them do. Lurie is hands off and that is a fact
TsJohnson (and Larrwd)
Yes I saw his stats last year (you obviously didn’t)
I saw his 6 games under 55%. I saw his no td 4 int game…and his 1 td 4 int game
You clowns would have crucified Foles for that.
I also saw him open the year with tds and 8 ints…and a 2 and 8 record…..
do you think you clowns would have allowed that if it was Foles? Because its what I expect out of a rookie.
I was just pointing our the hyprocracy of Larrwds position….pumping Newton’s tireswhen it took him a year and a half to turn into a competent QB, while you guys wo’;t give Foles 5 games.
BTW – the GM of the Panthers was fired after the start this year….the main reason because of the Newton pick because many observers felt (at that point – and especially after the news conference) that it wasn’t a good pick. That and signing 4 rbs)
BTW – what has Foles done to compare?
over first 5 games….Higher comp %, less yards, more tds thrown, less ints thrown, exact same offensive pts scored, exact same 1-4 record
Hmmmmm……but one goes under the bus and the other is a shining example in your world. That’s weird…..seems like you guys are awful quick to throw some players away, but willing to let others get their proper chance to develop…..
sorry…over first 6 games: Foles vs Newton…..
same yrds, higher comp%, 1 less td, 4 less ints, same pts, same 1-5 record
but according to you, “no comparison” Why? Because the idiots on tv told you one is an “unstoppable weapon” abd the other isn’t? Or something else…..
GM Hurley was fired from the Panthers due to poor Draft picks and the poor long term deals he gave to players (D Wiilians, Stewart,Tolbert,
C Johnson, J Beason, C Gamble, C Godfrey) over the last couple of Seasons
And still has not been able to get a 2nd WR behind Smith, a DT,
CB’s or produce a Winning Club. Owner Richardson probably has 2-3 Years left and wants a Winner now before he goes
Hurley was put in a ridiculous position last year. All reports were that he did not want Newton (wanting d instead), but was compelled to take him due to media hype and pressure.
If he didn;t takeNewton, and he turnedout well for another team, Hurley would have been fired.
So Hurley did take Newton, and during this year’s early meltdown (remember there was the terrible play, the weird conferences, numerous reports about sullen behaviour, the players talking about him being a jackass at the last pro-bowl, + numerous espn type reports comparing him to Jamarcus…etc) Hurley was fired. The other decisions were part of it, but the Newton pick played the biggest role.
Haveacigar, per reports by sal pal, howie Roseman broke down film on Sunday, Monday morning, there’s his suggestion the front office had a hand in it, Lurie like any CEO has his chain of command, so the directive came from Lurie to Roseman to Reid
Reid never wanted Vick, it was Lurie and Roseman, well they got him, and it put the franchise back three years, a decision based on money, not long term success
There is absolutely no way Lurie is making those calls AR has had autonomous control. If it was Lurie who decided on Vick, which if you think back to the original press conference is very unlikely… But if he did he should extend Reid 5 years, apologize publicly to him because Vick is terrible
I agree HAC 100%
Coach AR has never revealed much in his Press Conferences (as most Coaches don’t) and their statements, especially after games should be taken with a grain of salt in my opinion
How so many Fans think that Owner Lurie
Has been telling AR on who to play, draft
Over his Career is beyond me
Lurie is on of the most hands-off Owners in the NFL who does not think he is a
“Pseudo-GM” like many Owners believe they are
He is strictly a Business Man who is a big fan of Football,who Hires People and allows them to Operate and either produce results or not.
Now I do believe this Season after the Saints loss which made their Playoff push very improbable, the he leaned on Tom Donahoe for advice and counsel
And then collectively with Roseman decided to look at the future and instructed Reid to make changes with Staff and Players,
But up until mid-season this year, it’s been AR’s show to run
There is little doubt in my mind about this
I disagree Jake,
It was Reid/McNabb who wanted to give Vick a Chance
Banner & Lurie were very much against it from all early reports
Now once Vick was on Board with the Club, Redi did want Kolb
As the #1 QB but I do believe that it became pretty apparent to Reid and MM
That Kolb just played “scared” in the Pocket and simply didn’t trust
Him moving the Team forward, in fact I will go on record that Kolb was never the same player when he got his head mashed in the turf from Clay Matthews
In that opening Packer game in 2010 and after a few weeks went by
Both AR & MM believed Vick gave their Offense a better chance to win, especially being the pass-aholics that they are as Coaches
It’s not what they say, it’s how they say it, damn, wish I had some turds to sell you guys thinking they’re lemons, this is the most dishonest front office in Philly sports, on some levels I bet Reid, like banner can’t wait to get out of dodge
And it makes you think, maybe Reid isn’t the reason the eagles haven’t won, or at least rececently, it’s a meddlesome front office who wanted Vick
Are you drinking already? That is so ridiculous.
Vinnie, the problems with Panthers Ownership & GM Hurley had nothing to do
With Newton, it began 2 years earlier when they HC John Fox hang out
As a lane duck Ciach and Hurley’s Draft Record of Selecting QB Claussen and then trading back up into the late 2nd or 3rd Round to Draft local player Arnanti Edwards who was not even projected as a 6th Rounder against HC Fox’s wishes. Hurley forced Coach Fox with roster moves, did not discuss a new contract with him, and now fast forward 2 years and Owner Richardson
Sees Fox making the Playoffs 2 years in a row, last year with Tim Tebow
And again this year with Manning. Owner Ricgardson realizes now that he fired the wrong person at the time and that he should have Fired GM Hurley and kept with HC John Fox…
And one step further, Reid did not want an inaccurate, running qb to run his west coast offense, but Lurie told Reid to draft mcnabb,Merida made the best of mcnabbs abilities, realized he couldn’t run the offense the way he wanted it run, so brought in Owens who almost won a super bowl if mcchoke didn’t , well, do what he was best at, choke
Haveacigar, as a man of leisure I can drink when I want, but nothing will ever top paulman’s Ebonics a couple nights back, classic, dcar thinking he stroked out and mhenski telling him to put the bottle down already, paulman, you are a classic…
I admit I was a little inebriated plus using my I-Phone to post which is never a good thing even when I’m sober.. Ha
One thing we can all agree on,
This will be one crazy Off-Season for the Eagles and a critical one for the
The decisions they make in the next 4-6 Weeks will determine the Path of this Franchise for the next 5 Years and they must do their homework and due diligence to hire a solid, football Coach and Staff to get this Team back on track
A miss here will have catastrophic consequences and a return of the early 70’s
And late 90’s with a bad Team, Prospects and a “Loser Culture”which has seeped back in over the last 2 Seasons. A huge Off-Season indeed..
Some good Bowl Games Today
WVU vs Syracuse- most eyes will be on QB Geno Smith and their big play WR
Whose name escapes me, but I also will be watching Syracuse’s Ryan Nassib
Who is under the radar and could sneak in the 2nd Round as a up and coming QB, keep an eye on him
Just an fyi vinnie…just cause u dont say his name doesnt meanbyou arent talking about him.
Noone was fired over the cam newt pick, stop..m just stop. Panthers will play much better next year… the running qb is taking the league by storm now…. i dont like it but it is what it is.
People are not smashing foles… they are smashing vinnie because he is blind to anything other than his own hate and he cant see clearly.
Foles competes for the starting job next year. Weve seen nothing that should change this. If he wants the job… let him earn it.
Lurie does not get in the football biz. Hes the owner and he wants to win but makes sure the eagles are a household name. Everyone else needs to be checked.
Anything else i can clear up for you boys this morning?
I want no parts of Chip Kelly. The offensive personnel isn’t right and honestly I neither see him, nor Howie Roseman knowing how to get it right in a reasonable amount of time if at all. I’d rather stick with Reid for the time being.
Agree and disagree butch….
I dont want chip but nowat reid stays. Id rather a blind monkey run this team.
I see no way that Coach AR can return for his final year of his Contract
It’s simply time for him to move on, he knows it, Lurie knows it, and the Fabs know it. He needs to step away for a year and Re-charge and more importantly spend more quality time with his family
Your a man paulman to fess up like that, it sure did provide for some good entertainment, dcar thinking you stroked out, classic
Questions? what Questions do I have as this dreadful season concludes?
1) Can the Gmen muster enough pride and dignity for a win
2) can a game between lame duck coaches(OAK-SD) result in an OAK win and the birds secure the #3 pick.
3) Does AR get fired on Monday or sometime during the week.
4) How much dead weight gets cut from the roster: Bell, Allen, Coleman, NNmadi or DRC, Vick, Dunlap, Watkins, Reynolds
5) With the increase Salary Cap space do the Eagles in FA sign a FS,CB,WR,G
6) with the #3 pick do they select an OT,DT,CB or trade down for additional picks
7) Who does Lurie/Roseman pick as the next HC.
8) Does the new HC get a 5 year deal and lets hope he is not here for 14 years still trying for the 1st SB victory.
9) Will the draft be defensive oriented
10) Will this be the most exciting offseason in Eagles history
Stevo, just because you say it as so doesn’t make it as so, be grateful for vinnie, and others who bring some different perspectives, even the opposite end of vinnie, those that love Vick they are blinded by a damn good rookie performance, why don’t you call them out for their “hate”‘ a word you will never hear Jakedog say, but are you running for Prez of the mike Vick fan club or something, why don’t you give it a break on vinnie
Yes… im running for vicks fan club. I never wanted him here and wont buy his jersey. I just called out songs for the graham thing. Not sure what u want.
I believe the gauntlet comes down Monday 12/31/2012 as I have mentioned for a while now, I also believe that Lurie will be classy and allow this moment Reid to go out with dignity and his head held high
I also believe that Lurie will name Tom Donahoe as the new
VP of Football Ops but most likely at a later date to not take Reid’s going away
Announcement, good heart feeling and well wishes away from the moment
I think it’s Reid & Lurie together with no one else to make the announcement
Of Reid’s Departure. Reid will be emotional and thank the fans for support over the years, the coaches and players who have meant the most to him over the Years and his regret/ sorrow that he was unable to bring a Championship to the City and Fans
I hope they don’t leave him twisting in the wind after 14 years show the man the respect he deserves. Time to move on no need for this to linger past Monday.
ESPN reports from Close Sources of the Eagles
That QB Mike Vick is not open to restructuring his Contract
Which he is due to earn $15.5 Million for 2013 including a $3 Million Roster Bonus on Feb 6th.
If Eagles release by Feb 6th, they are off the hook.
The MV7 Experience is over after tomorrow for all intents and purposes
vick would have to throw for 5 touchdowns this week for us to keep him at that salary
Vick fooled them once he won’t do It again. I beleive he will kick ass this week and the bills or chiefs in their disparate ways will open the check book to him
“Yes I saw his stats last year (you obviously didn’t)
I saw his 6 games under 55%. I saw his no td 4 int game…and his 1 td 4 int game
You clowns would have crucified Foles for that.
I also saw him open the year with tds and 8 ints…and a 2 and 8 record…..”
Oh…so you didn’t see that he broke Peyton Manning’s rookie passing record right? Or that he has the record for the most rushing yards and throwing yards in one season than any QB ever. Or the most rushing TD by any QB in a season….ever…though I thinking RGIII might break that one this year.
You didn’t see that. Huh?
The GM was not fired for the Newton pick…you just keep talking out your ass on that one.
Also Carolina has lost all but 2 games by a touchdown or less…at least 2 of those losses fall squarely on the defense. Carolina is a team with a few tweaks and a tad more talent will own the NFC South.
But yeah keep comparing a third round pick who Cosell says is nothing special to a number 1 pick who most anyone with sense says will be a big deal in this league for years to come.
And this is why no one takes you seriously Vinnie.
@larrwd he could throw for 8 TD’s and wouldn’t get that salary. Nothing short of the Super Bowl and they would have not paid him that money.
“the running qb is taking the league by storm now”
No the hybrid QB is taking the NFL by storm now. Lucks, RGIII, Wilson’s, Cam’s these are guys who can throw the ball AND run the ball…that’s where the QB position is going…it gives offenses so many more options. All those guys have legitimate arms AND legitimate speed. Dual threats are gonna be the norm.
Correct. Thats what i was saying.