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How Will The New Coaching Staff Impact The Quarterback Position?

Current Oregon head coach Chip Kelly is reportedly one of the names on the Eagles short list for the head coaching vacancy left by Reid’s firing on Monday morning. Kelly, with a career record of 45-7 at Oregon, runs an offense that would be an experiment in the NFL where defenses are ten times faster than in college.

One Eagles player may be secretly hoping that Chip Kelly finds another destination or the Eagles find another candidate to fill the job. Nick Foles, who started six of the Eagles last seven games, would not fit well with the speed offense that Kelly used at Oregon. It is widely believed that Michael Vick is done in Philadelphia after starting 9-3 and finishing 9-13 as an Eagles starter, including 0-1 in the only playoff game the Eagles had with him as starter. If the Eagles decide that Chip Kelly is their guy, though, Vick’s time in Philadelphia may continue, presumably on a much cheaper contract than he is currently playing under.

While there is no deadline to find a new head coach, there is a deadline to decide on what to do with Vick. By February 6th, the Eagles must make a decision whether or not Michael Vick will be wearing midnight green in 2013. He is due for a $3 million bonus on that day. Vick is set to make $15.5 million base salary in 2013 and it is unlikely that the Eagles will be able to carry that salary and remain under the cap.

The quarterback situation is one of the deciding factors in the direction the Eagles go in looking for a head coach and is also a deciding factor in the opposite direction. Nick Foles started six games in 2012 and seemed to improve every game. He only produced a single win but with a healthy offensive line and LeSean McCoy and DeSean Jackson, Foles could have a bright future as the Eagles starting quarterback if he continues progress.

Foles shining moment of his rookie season came in week 14 in Tampa Bay. The Eagles only real “thriller” of the 2012 season came behind a 381 yard, 3 touchdown performance by the rookie. With the running game sputtering (2 yards on 13 carries between Bryce Brown and Dion Lewis) Foles had no run support. The Eagles only victory in the last 13 weeks of the season ended with a 2-point win from a touchdown pass from Foles to Jeremy Maclin on the final play of the game – 2nd and 1 on the one yard line with two seconds left in the game, down by five. Foles connected on his two passing touchdowns in the game in the final four minutes of the game, a feat that All-Pro quarterbacks can rarely accomplish. The third round pick’s final season stat line was quite impressive considering what he was playing with: 60.8 completion percentage, 1699 yards, 6 touchdowns, and 5 interceptions – a 79.1 passer rating and 45.3 Total QBR. He also went 1-5 in his six starts.

Michael Vick started the season 3-1 but failed to win again in 2012. Suffering a concussion in Week 10, Vick missed six total games when Foles was named starter despite Vick’s recovery. In just 10 games, Vick turned the ball over 15 times, a troubling rate of 1.5 turnovers per game. In the first four weeks, despite ugly games, the Eagles looked like a tough team that can pull out wins in tight games despite adversity. After those first four weeks, the Eagles 2012 season was a downward spiral with the lone bright spot in Tampa Bay. Vick, a quarterback who said that this Eagles team could be a dynasty before the season finished with a 58.1 completion percentage, 2362 yards, 12 TDs, and 10 INTs – a 78.1 passer rating and 46.0 Total QBR. Vick was 3-7 in his 10 starts with six straight losses.

It is almost a done deal that Vick will not return to the Eagles in 2013 and Foles will be the Eagles starter moving forward. For an offensive minded coach, the Eagles could be an attractive destination with many offensive weapons and a 23-year-old developing QB, not to mention a fourth overall pick in April’s draft. The Eagles still have interviews to plan and go through with and owner Jeffrey Lurie, GM Howie Roseman, and team president Don Smolenski will have the final say in who coaches the Eagles in 2013. There are many options out there from college coaches looking to experiment in the NFL to retired coaches to assistant coaches around the league. Nick Foles is just hoping that one name, Chip Kelly, does not come to the forefront. If Kelly lands in Philly, Michael Vick may be bumped back to starter and Foles will return to starting clipboard holder.

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Brenden Peddigree

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Xevious
Xevious
January 4, 2013 8:23 am

Hmmmm I sometimes think that these story writers are trolling the commenters. I mean we have been over this story here on the Forums for over a month now. The responses may entertain me at work today so that is a plus. Also maybe Biglion will explain why Vince Young is a better choice for QB than Nick Foles….Good times ahead.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 4, 2013 8:40 am
Reply to  Xevious

Your correct Xevious – let me start the ball rolling.

Every coach would want to pick the ideal quarterback to run his offense, but they don’t always have the luxury. My feeling is that Kelly would not pick either Vick or Foles if he had a choice. Vick turns the ball over too much and Foles is not a proven quarterback.

I’m sure the Eagles brass and Kelly have already figured out what they will do at the quarterback position should Kelly take the job.

All that’s left to do is wait and watch.

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 9:06 am
Reply to  Xevious

I think Chip Kelly might think Vince Young would be a better option. My point was I would look at every option available before choosing who my QB would be. Personally I don’t like any of the current options on the roster. I would make an offer for either Mallet in NE or Cousins in DC. And I wouldn’t hire Chip Kelly.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 9:13 am
Reply to  Biglion821

i see what you are saying but thats like an ugly back to the future scenario…could you imagine trotting out the read option with VY on our side and on the other side is RG3–twice a year.? that would be UGLY!

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 8:31 am

there is a real chance that if it is kelly foles could fit. you adapt kellys offense around what you have which is a big qb that is bright and you do just take the option out. its still a quick uptempo offense- think patriots or broncos.

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2013 8:35 am

No Chip Kelly and No Mike Vick..
We thought Turnovers were bad enough from Vick trying to play in the Pocket
Get VIck running the Spread Offense and taking more and more hits, will be a disaster for the Team and for Vick physically and won’t last 4-5 weeks playing in Kelly’s System.. Vick is one or 2 more head shots of being done as far as Concussion’s go…

Frank22
Frank22
January 4, 2013 9:33 am
Reply to  paulman

You got it. Not that hard to comprehend, like it is for most.

btc24
btc24
January 4, 2013 8:36 am

I just don’t want any part of Chip Kelly. That kind of bullshit offense is exactly what we’ve been dealing with for quite some time now. We are at a major fork in the road with how this organization will perform for the next 5-10 years and Chip Kelly (Stever Spurrier 2.0) could very well set us back. If we get him, I will feel like we are the new Redskins; spending big on free agent busts and bringing in a college coach with a scheme that doesn’t stand a chance in the NFL. I get that Belechek consults with him which says a lot but I think the type of plays Chip Kelly comes up with are good to have in your back pocket but not as your primary offensive scheme.I’m really starting to like Doug Marrone.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 8:43 am

oh that said — i don’t want kelly- just saying if it is him foles may fit ok- however i have stated for a couple of weeks now– mike mccoy. he is the only name on my list.

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 9:10 am

I am with cigar on this, no Chip Kelly no spread offense, try to interview McCoy or wait until SF loses and get Greg Roman or Seattle’s DC Gus Bradley. BTW if they hired McCoy he would be the best coach for Foles.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 9:15 am
Reply to  Biglion821

thats why i want him. i am not a guy on here who thinks foles is the second coming but i think there MIGHT be something there. You never know in this league there are so many first round busts (and coaching busts too). I think Foles is here, he is cheap, has some experience- bring in a guy that can make him as good as he CAN be– if he still isn’t good then give the coach another guy i guess.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 4, 2013 9:17 am

Sell me on McCoy. Because right now, Manning runs that offense. Last year that offense stunk until TeBow came in and they are not going to be running that offense here. So are we going with the couple of years of success he had with Orton or when he was working with Delhomme? What about the defense?

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2013 9:19 am

Mike McCoy is due to Interview over the Weekend (Saturday) with the Eagles
I hope the Eagles talk to a couple of the 49ers/Seahwaks/Packers Assistants
too and stay away from these College Coaches though I do like the background,experience,no-nonsense approach and personality of Coach Marrone from Syracuse..

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 9:22 am

yes- working with those stiffs and i believe they both went to the pro bowl under his coaching.he also using the people he had (tebow) in mid year did an about face and PUT HIS PLAYERS IN A POSITION TO WIN –think we’ve heard that before. second he has worked under 3 head coaches who have been fired and all three owners wanted to keep him, that says something to me. as for working with manning of course he has huge input– you want that in your QB! you want him to be the on field leader. if you think mccoy has no input then you are mistaken.

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2013 9:28 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Still not a bad idea to get a proven OC who has learned some new wrinkles being with Peyton Manning, how can this hurt McCoy, only enhances him I believe..

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 4, 2013 9:22 am

HAC- I see your point. Even if Foles doesn’t work out, having a guy that is good at developing the most important player on the field is probably a good thing.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 9:24 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

see the post we posted simultaneously!

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 4, 2013 9:24 am

I can agree with what you are saying about the others, but I think that you are vastly overstating Manning’s “input.”

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 9:27 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

its not just mannings ‘input’ in planning– he is able to do so much at the LOS– its like he is a genius- and i guarantee that is all discussed with mccoy during the week. one thing trot was saying about manning and brady in the hurry up is that their ‘second call’ is the important one because the defense can’t react– he says manning is the best at it– anyway i think mccoy has the ability to pass some of this along to whomever our qb is.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 4, 2013 9:29 am
Reply to  haveacigar

I really want to go with a coordinator too, so I QB guru of sorts could be the best choice.

Working with Manning will help him deal with Foles’ blazing speed too!

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 9:31 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

yes you can’t fault a coach because he has one of the top all time at the position and it makes him look good–

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2013 9:24 am

NO Saint’s Pete Carmicheal Jr and Joe Vitt would be worth talking to also

Former Saints/Rams DC Greg Williams has officially been terminated by the Rams Organization and is free to Coach for any Team and would be an interested choice as DC.. The Man is a little crazy and maybe has some baggage, but he can get after the QB,cause Turnovers and create negative plays… It will be interesting on who takes a gamble (Press wise) with him

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 9:30 am
Reply to  paulman

the nfl is such a win now league i don’t see williams staying out for long. someone will want to have a good experienced DC– now goodell might try to ‘steer him in a direction of a strong organization’ the way he did with vick– although on second thought… after that happened the organization went to hell (although it was on its way to hell before that)

Xevious
Xevious
January 4, 2013 9:31 am

If you Bring in Mike Mccoy I would suggest Lovie Smith or Greg Williams to run the defense. This would take Half the ball out of Mccoys hands and into an experienced defensive mind. I think Lovie is an excellent Defensive mind but think he is Buddy Ryan as a head coach. Greg Williams is Mr bounty but can coach up the defense. If we are going to go Offense for Head coach both of these guys would be my 1a and 1b choice as DC. The defense needs as much if not more help then the Offense IMO. The offense will have to do its best since they foolishly aren’t bringing back Vince Young.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 9:33 am
Reply to  Xevious

i whole heartedly agree with this. I really think Lovie will get a HC spot– but if not — make him DC and asst. HC

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 9:59 am
Reply to  haveacigar

What about Romeo Crennel as DC? The Chiefs d is pretty good and he did run the Pats D for quite awhile.

Xevious
Xevious
January 4, 2013 10:03 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Romeo is another good name for DC no doubt. Also Spags if the Babies in NO get there way and he is canned.

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 10:08 am
Reply to  Xevious

I wonder who those unnamed sources were and if they were offensive players. Drew Brees maybe?

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2013 10:19 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Spags only was the DC of the worst Defense in the History of the NFL as far as Yard and Points Given Up..

Xevious
Xevious
January 4, 2013 10:37 am
Reply to  paulman

Honestly Paul this is one time you need to look at what the man had done in other places and not with that defense. Lets see your top D guy out for the year head coach out for the year…yeah thats a shitstorm you cant put on Spags.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 9:34 am
Reply to  Xevious

you seriously think VY is an option? wow i kinda thought you were joking.

Xevious
Xevious
January 4, 2013 9:53 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Its my Sarcastic side kinda ripping Biglion for Saying he would rather have VY than Foles lol. VY is a disaster in any system I would rather have VIck than VY 100 out of 100 times and Im not a Vick fan as many of you know.

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 9:54 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Nope I don’t think he takes another snap in the NFL because of his goofy ass personality but hell I would do my due diligence on every option out there.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 9:58 am
Reply to  Biglion821

good point but the nfl has 32 teams doing due diligence and a 26 year old former #1 pick was UNEMPLOYED– and teams had a bunch of scrubs at qb

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 10:02 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Yep cigar and guess what if Whisenhunt would have at least tried him out I can almost assure you Arizona wouldn’t have looked like they had Pop Warner QB”s

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 9:56 am
Reply to  Xevious

You gotta see my point though Xevious if your not sold of Foles what would checking out every available guy out hurt? The object is to find the best players out there right?

Xevious
Xevious
January 4, 2013 10:08 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Well your obviously not sold, but to pick a stooge with a 10 cent head over a kid with an obviously good football mind is kinda ludacris. I understood the premise but you picked a name with no credibility bro. Kinda kicks your argument in the ass before you can even get it out there.

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 10:14 am
Reply to  Xevious

LOL yep but seriously you know there are coaches out there who are still checking on Jamarcus Russell just to see if he weighs under 350. LOL

Xevious
Xevious
January 4, 2013 10:40 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Well thats the issue with the NFL and all sports. Someone always think they are smarter than everyone else. A bum is a bum no amount of hope is gonna change that. Goes for coaching too..Somehow Norv Turner has had 3 bites at the apple. Jackasses.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 4, 2013 9:37 am

McCoy and Smith would be a solid 1-2, but I gotta think that if Lovie doesn’t get a job now, he will get one in the next couple of years.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 4, 2013 9:58 am

We need defensive backs for next year – Somebody write an article about who will be our safeties and corners next year.

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 9:59 am

If tinkerbell Lurie thinks forcing this kid down anyones throat, is going to help get a good hire, he’s delusional. This is why we can forget any established coaches, or top coordinators coming here. Between having to work with an inept, wet behind the ears, gopher, GM, with no football acumen, like Rosemilk, having an un-established QB in Foles thrown down their throat, & this roster full of heartless, ball-less, dogs, we ain’t getting anything , but a no name, or a yes-man! Any coach with any brains, would laugh in Tootsie boys face! Expect buffalo Chips Kelly, or Marrone from Syracuse! Happy days!

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 10:06 am
Reply to  DCar

See DCar that is my point exactly you’ll be looking for a yes man instead of a real football coach. Let the coaches truly decide what they put on the field. By the end of the year the only draft pick that the Roseman draft could say was a bonafide NFL player was Fletcher Cox, everyone else including Boykin, Kendricks, Foles and Brown are question marks.

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 10:20 am
Reply to  Biglion821

I agree lion.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 4, 2013 10:09 am
Reply to  DCar

I don’t think that any of us are suggesting that they uses Foles that way. Simply stated, if Foles is here next year or another young QB, it would be good to have someone who works well with young QBs. Hell Lurie in his presser stated that the QB situation would be up to the new coach. We all know you hate the current administration, but you are grasping at straws here.

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2013 10:04 am

**Breaking News from Kansas City***
Paulman joins a Local KC Businessman and will Managing 6 “Big Red’s Barbecue & Sports Bar” Restaurants around the Greater Kansas City area..
All Restaurants will have AR Likeness on a Sign out front and big,busty waitresses working the bar,tables… I am flying out Sat to interview many of Staff and check out Site Locations..
There is always a way to make a quick buck if your willing to take a risk and take advantage of the “timing” in life

To Irish,
I will post up some of the my thoughts about next Years Secondary for it definitely needs a make-over and is probably the biggest weakness as a Position Group on the Team

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 10:21 am
Reply to  paulman

Paul, you are irreplaceable! Where do you come up with this $#!T! LMFBO!

Reberson
Reberson
January 4, 2013 10:04 am

Not necessarily true at all. The Patriots run a version of the Chip Kelly hurry up with Brady and he is hardly a “speed” QB. Now I am in no way comparing Foles to Brady at this point but they are comparable on a purely “athletic” basis. Watching some of the Oregon games it’s apparent that the QB must be smart and able to think on his feet so to speak. Neither attribute are Vick trademarks. That said I don’t want Kelly at all and would focus on Mike McCoy at this point.

2013 Draft
1st round Luke Joeckle OT Texas A&M
2nd round Jonathan Banks CB Miss State
3rd round Tony Jefferson FS Oklahoma

Xevious
Xevious
January 4, 2013 10:08 am

This Just In Scott Pioli FIRED in KC….Andy is Big man on Campus lol

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 10:16 am
Reply to  Xevious

WOW how do you go 4-12 and run a power play and get everything you want this is truly unbelievable.

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 10:17 am
Reply to  Biglion821

And get fired first, Sal Pal is flabbergasted and Lovie is shaking his head right now.

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 10:23 am
Reply to  Xevious

John Dorsey as his GM!

phillyfan
phillyfan
January 4, 2013 10:09 am

I had a chance to watch Oregon last night and I came away with the following observations: Although I still have other candidates I prefer the Eagles to hire and am not as against the potential hiring of Kelly as I was originally. My choices are still:

1) Mike McCoy
2) Vic Fangio
3) Greg Roman
4) Bruce Arians
5) Mike Zimmer
6) Kelly

His uptempo offense could cause some issues with defenses. THere are some things he would need to do first. Get a talented big receiver another pass catching tight end and….. I am not sure if Foles would be the guy to run it. I am not saying he couldn’t I am just not sure. He has the running game pieces here already.

…. And I was impressed with his defense.

So to sum up: I wouldn’t think it would be terrible to hire Kelly, even though I was dead set against it originally and I think there are better candidates. I still think the Browns get him first. Why? Because Joe Banner is smarter than Lurie and Howie and he will out maneuver them.

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2013 10:17 am

Paulman reported last evening that Coach AR will be annoucing Tom Heckert
as GM of CHiefs, and Dick Jauron as DC, Pat Shurmur as OC/QB Coach – Asst Head Coach and bring WR Culley, RB Williams, TE Metzler to Kansas City with him as well as hire Juan Castillo to Coach the O/Line or possibly be the LB Coach under Dick Jauron.. I also expect Andy Reid to hire Sean McDermott (once he gets fired from Panthers) to join KC as their Secondary Coach
My Prediction is this, Andy Reid get the Chiefs to the Playoffs by 2014 Season, The Eagles will struggle to be a .500 Team for the next 2-3 Seasons regardless of who they Hire and who their QB is, they just need NFL Talent up and down their Roster which will take some time … So let it be written, so let it be done…

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 10:18 am
Reply to  paulman

Hey paulman I gotta bust your chops though, I’m still waiting for that Donohoe press conference.

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2013 10:49 am
Reply to  Biglion821

So am I Biglion,
My source told me last evening that the Eagles (Lurie) does not want to offer Donahoe the Position of VP of Football Ops since the Eagles are Pursuing Chip Kelly and want to exhaust that first or any other potential HC who may want more autority if fired (Jon Gruden perhaps)
My source also informed me that Donahoe is having 2nd thoughts of committing to a Full-Position and working with GM Howie Roseman due to Roseman’s “Fantasy Land” Style of Managing the GM Dept/Player Personnel/Scouting/Draft, etc, etc ..

btc24
btc24
January 4, 2013 10:54 am
Reply to  Biglion821

I’m waiting for that as well. Do we know of Donohoe is even a real person?

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 10:18 am

Just had a quick chat with Brian Baldinger, & he told me John Gruden, is tootsie boys choice, & they have spoken already. He is high on Foles & would bring in his Brother as O Coordinator/Asst HC & both the Kiffins. Could happen next week, if Gruden decides yes. Stay tuned! Now this excites me, quite a bit!

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 10:21 am
Reply to  DCar

Even though I don’t like Gruden this does sound interesting.

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 10:27 am
Reply to  Biglion821

This is the only reason why, Lurie is going through interviews, because Gruden isn’t 100% sure about working with Rosemilk. But the job is his, & he will decide this week. VERY INTERESTING!

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 10:36 am
Reply to  DCar

He can leave baby Kiffin at USC though, I wonder if he would tell Lurie that he’ll come if Howie had no input on the football side of things.

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 10:46 am
Reply to  Biglion821

That’s the holdup, but BB said Gruden would have a lot of input, also. He also doesn’t want to make a decision & have any affect, on his Brother’s playoff game.

Xevious
Xevious
January 4, 2013 10:51 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Well if this is true I would really be in favor of it. The offense has pieces in place Including returning Linemen. Gruden would be great for Foles and the receivers. Also the issue Gruden had in Tampa was talent evaluation in the end. So a GM in place would be good for him. I find Dcar to be one of the most rational posters on this forum so ill buy this lol.

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 10:57 am
Reply to  Xevious

LOL! I don’t know about always being rational, I’m not calm enough, LOL! But I always tell the truth, & investigate my facts. We’ll know his decision, by the end of the week, & you know damn well, it’ll leak out somewhere.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 4, 2013 2:48 pm
Reply to  Xevious

RATIONAL? Bwahahahahaha!!!, wait let me catch my breath, Bwahahahaha LMFBO, DCar flies off the handle once a month

DCar
DCar
January 5, 2013 2:18 am

e0, try once a week. LMFBO! I’m trying to get better, but the stupidity, idiocy, ignorance, cluelessness, & racism on here, drive me bonkers! As Michael Corleone once said, “Just when I thought I was out, they pull me right back in!”

Stevo
Stevo
January 4, 2013 10:20 am

The biggest mistake the birds could make this offseason will be letting a college guy run the D. Please…. please…. get a real friggin NFL DC.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
January 4, 2013 11:02 am

DCAR — please tell me you are not making ish up! I’m high on Kelly but would love this in a heartbeat.

Is this for real? This isn’t P-man BS is it?

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 11:07 am
Reply to  BirdoBeamen

I don’t lie BoB. Read my posts. It all is in Grudens hands. If he decides no, it’ll be McCoy, or (Gulp!) Kelly! Want no parts of him.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
January 4, 2013 11:09 am

How did you talk to him? Radio call? What is it? Any links? This is huge!

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 11:18 am
Reply to  BirdoBeamen

Don’t want to get into specifics, but I’ve known him, since 93′. He’s at NFL Films, right now, with Greg Cossell. Good dude. Smart football man. Knows a lot of people, in the know. This has been in the works for weeks.

Xevious
Xevious
January 4, 2013 11:13 am

Seriously NO MAN NAMED CHIP….should be a coach in Philly. California yes Cleveland sure…But we dont do CHIP in Philly. Ugh what a disgrace lol.

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2013 11:14 am

Stevo,
The guys are probably talking about Lane’s father (Monte Kiffin) to run the Defense who is about 74 Years old now and not in the best of health and probably not a god idea.. Do remember that Gruden is friendly with Rod Marinelli who was the TB Bucs D/Line Coach at the time and is presently is the Bears DC..
I don’t like th eGruden Idea for this Team/Franchise really needs to look long-term with this hire and not be so infatuated with how the present day QB is or the CUrrent Roster.. I believe LUrie is going to hire a Young Coordinator/COolege COach and have a 5 Year PLan-Time Line with him..
Gruden is good for about 2-3 Years max, goes thru QB’s like we go threw underwear.. If you are close to winning and thinking strictly short-term, then maybe you get Jon Gruden, but since Eagles are not anyone close to any of the Top 6-8 Teams in the NFC, no sense in bringing him on board to be a .6-8 Win Team at best and leave with the Roster/Franchise in worst shape than it currently is

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 11:23 am
Reply to  paulman

I’ll take it Paul. If he wants to go, he can turn it over to his Bro, if/ when he leaves. I’d rather have him, than that list of ????’s that are out there! Can you imagine these dogs trying to quit on him? LOL! He’s perfect for Philly.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
January 4, 2013 11:21 am

Gruden built the Raiders back into a contender. He will do the same with us. Gruden has always been number one on my list.

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 11:25 am
Reply to  BirdoBeamen

Same here BoB. I like his Bro too. Polar opposites in personality, but equally great of a Offensive guru.

jakedog
jakedog
January 4, 2013 11:23 am

Paulman,there is no long term anymore in the nfl (unless you are Andy Reid), teams can and do turn it around in a year, if foles develops as he should the eagles are contenders again on offense, build a secondary, contenders for super bowl runs

larrwd
larrwd
January 4, 2013 11:43 am
larrwd
larrwd
January 4, 2013 11:44 am

http://www. cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2013 11:49 am

I guess I am too old school Jake and would rather see the Eagles Clean house and start ffresh and build a Solid Foundation and the Team Properly, but you are right, fans,ticket-holders and today’s socierty are not patient enough and demand instant success..

larrwd
larrwd
January 4, 2013 11:50 am

cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock GENO SMITH

Xevious
Xevious
January 4, 2013 12:25 pm
Reply to  larrwd

At 4? thats a joke.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 11:50 am

jon gruden- nice name, fiery, get in players faces, scowl on his face. will play well to the fans…. coaching record… .540 winning percentage is .40 lower than the guy we just fired. as far as retreads go he’s the sexiest name. he’s had bad years too– like the way he built oakland
i guess he would energize the fan base, re-excite us after the reid hangover– like a good bloody mary the morning after. i always enjoy them although they sometimes make for a tough day.

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 11:55 am
Reply to  haveacigar

HAC, he had Al Davis F^#@ING things up, & making all the decisions there. Just listen to Mike Lombardi, & any other former employees. You can’t hold that against him.

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 11:58 am
Reply to  DCar

He did have Dungy’s DF in TB, but he rebuilt the entire offense there, & won the SB. Nobody states that. They give Dungy the credit.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 11:58 am
Reply to  DCar

his oakland record was 594 and tampa record 504…. all that said i’m ok with this for the reasons stated. he’s the anti-reid personality wise- will be interesting- i’m just saying he’s a dude like they are all just dudes! he wins, he loses- he makes great calls and f*** some up– its what they all do!

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 12:03 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Let’s hope we can get lucky for once!

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 12:30 pm
Reply to  DCar

need to catch lightning in the bottle … sometimes it comes down to catching a break- think david tyree.

phillyfan
phillyfan
January 4, 2013 11:52 am

Reid agrees to 5 year deal with chiefs. Dotting “i”s and crossing “t”‘s.

nev856
nev856
January 4, 2013 11:57 am

maybe a huge mistake rushing to sign reid ,

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2013 12:12 pm
Reply to  nev856

What does KC have to lose, they haven’t don e much in recent Seasons,
have a rabid,proud fanbase, and play in a pretty easy Division (AFC West)
I figure Peyton Manning has 1-2 more Seasons at best, that Division is wide open and the AFC Conference as a whole is not what it used to be with Teams like the Jets,Steelers,Chargers,Raiders,BIlls,Browns all strugglign in recent Seasons.. It’s good hire for KC who have 5 Pro-Bowl Players on their Rosters.. they need a QB,WR, TE, DT and have the pretty good makings for a pretty good Team with some good young talent
I am not saying that AR will turn him around and win a SUper BOwl, but looking at the other Teams/JObs availalbe, it’s not a bad landing spot
Cardinals have a Good D, but no QB, horrible OOL, no RB and a lousy home field advantage.. Buffalo/Cleveland are proud Franchises,but play in more difficult Divisions, play in crappier home weather making the pass-aholic Offense for AR a little more difficult to accomplish.. SD Chargers need OL,WR, RB and their Owners (SPanos) is very cheap with their $$$

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2013 12:01 pm

Castillo is his O-line coach! What an embarrassment!!!! If I were Castillo, I would have told him, to F^#@ off!

Xevious
Xevious
January 4, 2013 12:28 pm
Reply to  DCar

Yeah Poor Juan desereved better.

larrwd
larrwd
January 4, 2013 12:12 pm

I told you andy reid decimated the eagles on purpose.. I knew he was going to sign Juan

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 1:26 pm
Reply to  larrwd

Starting to believe that larrwd!!!!

btc24
btc24
January 4, 2013 12:14 pm

Where exactly are you guys seeing anything about Gruden coming to Philly?

mhenski
mhenski
January 4, 2013 12:17 pm
Reply to  btc24

“insider sources”

mhenski
mhenski
January 4, 2013 12:17 pm

tomorrows paper – a photo of andy reid dressed in red with the walrus stache covered in barbeque sauce and a slab of ribs in his hands with the headline times theirs.

love it

Xevious
Xevious
January 4, 2013 12:26 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Andy could be 600 pounds by opening day…Ribs and steaks with BBQ for all. lol.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 4, 2013 12:21 pm

If you recall JH called Jon Gruden a “darkhorse” in the eagles coaching search. I said he really wants to come to philly and philly wants him. Im not surprised at all to hear this and if its a true report then its a good move. He just needs the right coaches around him bc Chucky can get pretty emotional and it clouds his judgment at times..

mhenski
mhenski
January 4, 2013 12:36 pm

In case you missed my post yesterday or in case you want Jon Gruden to coach here or in case you think he is gonna coach here please read and repeat the following:

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Xevious
Xevious
January 4, 2013 12:48 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Just saying it doesn’t mean its True…Dream team Dynasty….shall I go on lol.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
January 4, 2013 2:51 pm
Reply to  mhenski

are you using a Commodore 64 or an old 1980’s Texas Instruments Computer?

DCar
DCar
January 5, 2013 2:27 am
Reply to  mhenski

mh, I think I’m inclined to believe Baldinger, who is a commrade of Gruden’s, than you. Just saying! As I said, it’s not 100%, because it’s left up to Gruden, & it’s in his hands. That’s why Lurie is doing his due diligence, with his interviews, just in case. I hope he takes the job.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 4, 2013 12:36 pm

I’m now hearing Jay Gruden is on the radar of the Birds. Possibly as DCar reported a coordinator as his brother is the HC..

mhenski
mhenski
January 4, 2013 12:47 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

Jon Gruden will never coach in the NFL ever again.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 4, 2013 12:43 pm

I think “insider sources” might have missed on this piece of information. If the Eagles were going to hire Jon Gruden there was nothing stopping them from doing it by now.

If they gave Jon Gruden an offer it would be in the news. There’s no reason for subterfuge. It would be out in the open just like their meetings with other potential coaches.

At least that’s what I think…

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 12:48 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

to the best of my knowledge the eagles have yet to meet the Rooney rule. that would/could be a hold up i guess.

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 12:59 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

They met with Keith Armstrong HAC he’s black ST coordinator of the Falcons.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 1:25 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

thanks. i didn’t really know him.

mhenski
mhenski
January 4, 2013 12:49 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

their sources also missed this piece of information

Jon Gruden will never coach in the NFL ever again.

mhenski
mhenski
January 4, 2013 12:49 pm

NFL.com’s Daniel Jeremiah suggests that Monte Kiffin could land in Kansas City as the Chiefs’ defensive coordinator in 2013.
Jeremiah isn’t a reporter, but he has extensive NFL experience and plenty of connections around the league from his scouting days. His suggestion is notable. Kiffin, who turns 73 in February, spent the last three seasons coordinating his son Lane’s defense at Southern Cal. He was the Bucs’ defensive coordinator from 1996 through 2008, running a Tampa 2-style scheme.

haaaaaaaaaaaaaa. andy is such an idiot

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 1:03 pm

I don’t even like Gruden but this is exciting especially if he brings his brother and a really good DC on board. Will give the organization instant credibility again.

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 4, 2013 1:04 pm

Only scares me about Gruden is for a so called QB guru he never groomed one. Ever.

btc24
btc24
January 4, 2013 1:07 pm

Again, I have no idea how the Gruden to Philly rumors are getting started. Not saying it couldn’t happen I haven’t read anything to suggest that it will.

My top list of coaches is Doug Marrone, Mike McCoy and Bruce Arians.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 4, 2013 1:27 pm
Reply to  btc24

dcar says he has first hand knowledge… if true that would be the scoop of the year on gcobb…. i mean the real scoop not just dudes wishing or hoping

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2013 1:24 pm

It looks like Bruce Arians to the Bears and M McCoy to the Cardinals or Chargers, Chip Kelly to Cleveland or Buffalo,

I do like Doug Marrone though it would not be a popular choice
or one of the Following
49ers – Brad Seely or Greg Roman
Packers – Tom CLements or Winston Moss
Seahawks – Dana Bevall or Gus Bradley
Falcons – Mike Nolan

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2013 1:41 pm

I don’t see Jon Gruden coming back to Coach and especially not in Philly at this time in Philly where he would be replacing a close,personal friend in AR
I also think it would be viewed as a major failure in Lurie’s case and stature not to be able to be forward thinking and Hire a younger visionary/innovative,energetic Coach for the long-term and not resort for strictly a short-term Fix with Gruden,who probably is only half-committed to ever Coach again at this stage of his life..Gruden is not the Answer just like Cowher,Holmgrem,Billick, Dungy or any of these older,burnt out, been-there, done-that re-treads…

Stevo
Stevo
January 4, 2013 2:20 pm
Reply to  paulman

we need toughness…. we need Philly smash in the face tude. Gruden gives us that, I would take it in a heartbeat over a gimmick all throw style.