There were reports circulating all over the internet at the start of the weekend that Oregon head coach Chip Kelly was on his way to Cleveland after meeting with team President Joe Banner on Friday. Something seems to have changed because Kelly met with the Eagles for nine hours on Saturday night and anticipates talking to the Birds again.
Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie, general manager Howie Roseman and team president Don Smolenski were the Philly group which met with Kelly and his representatives.
Kelly also met with the Buffalo Bills on Friday night, so we will have to wait and see what Kelly decides to do. Whatever he decides to do, the Eagles discussed something in their meeting that gave him pause.
I don’t want the Birds to hire him. I think signing him is taking too big of a chance because he’s had no NFL experience.
Sometimes you gotta take risk they went safe choice in Reid now lets roll the dice with Kelly I think he will be okay!!!
Safe? He was an unknown. That ain’t safe. They took a major risk, we’re accused of going cheap. ,and of course it turned out great
My sources tell me that Kelly wants Owner Jeff Lurie to change the nickname to the “Philadelphia Quacks” or he is not coming to NovaCare Ctr and the Kelly even had a 6 hour skit (paid by Nike) to promote the new logo and mascot
GM Roseman was all excited by it and was overheard by the Restaurant Staff
“Philly Fans will love this” …
You Philly fans are getting a well rounded couch in Chip Kelly!
Please, we aren’t getting a coach to lead us to the Super Bowl in Chip Kelly.
He will not be successful in the NFL. Please, save that crap for someone that doesn’t know any better.
Now comes the Vick zone read!
Coach not Couch.
He’s just building a bidding war, between all of the teams! Don’t be surprised, if he stays with the Ducks, like O’Brien did. Even with the impending sanctions coming, I can’t see him leaving Oregon, or coming here! This would be a catastrophic mistake, if lying, Limp wrist Lurie, hires this @$$clown!
According to Adam Schefter, as of 5:35am est, Buffalo and Doug Marrone have agreed to a deal early this morning. This takes another candidate off our list. Things are getting interesting folks. #Eagles #Browns
Junk
Also I’m being told that the Colts will try hard to keep OC Bruce Arians with a new deal. First Marrone, now maybe Arians, options are dwindling. It’s Chip or nothing it’s looking like.. but I’m beginning to feel its just a personal battle between Banner and Lurie/Roseman. Both sides just wanna win the war and its ridiculous. For their sake I hope Chip is worth all this.
There are still better coaches that haven’t been interviewed. They may be forced into hiring the RIGHT guy……
I really wanted Marrone.
*Eagles News*
Hearing Chip has contracts from both the Browns and the Eagles. He is currently looking over them both and a decision could be made any time today.
All you need to do is look at chip , listen to him talk for 30 seconds and you can size him up as not a leader of men, it is the gimmicky bs Laurie said he was moving away from, well we Will see if Laurie bsed us again , get ready for more gimmicks, paulman is correct, renamed the team the Philadelphia Quackers, the mascot will be a duck dressed up like Ben Franklin
I’d like a McCoy as my Coordinator not my Head Coach. From the guys left, Bruce Arians is a good one(unless Saban becomes available) The only thing I know about Gus bradley is that hes turned that Seattle defense into one of the most dominant in the league. That’s really all I need to know. But is he HC material?.. That’s the chance your taking by picking a Gus Bradley. You can’t miss on the guy or this franchise is done..
Agree G. This guy is a gimmick coach. Risky for the NFL, given he has zero NFL experience. i HOPE this is not the guy the birds hire. What’s wrong with Shaw? Decent heritage, good results, knows how to coach in a big game?!!!!!!!
People conviently are only talking about Nick Foles in this offense which I understand. You think those little fast RBs at Oregon are good? Wait until you see what a McCoy and Bryce Brown (BIG FAST PLAYERS) running that offense can do. Just imagine a coach not running DJAX and Maclin 50 yards down field every play. Psssst Kelly will get DJax the ball in space to use his speed. Thats what Kelly does. Just gotta figure out QB role.
When I saw Chip Kelly’s team dump the gatorade on him after that game last week It reminded me of the videos of Jimmy Johnson when he coached the Miami Hurricanes.
I sure hope Chip Kelly is more like Jimmy Johnson then he is like Steve Spurrier because we might have him as a coach.
Eagles to recieve 2 picks in top 5 of 2013 NFL draft. If Chip Kelly comes to Philly Nick Foles may be traded. Since Ive been told Foles is franchise QB, since Ive been told if Foles played 16 games he would of thrown for 5000 yards, since Ive been told his numbers are better than Peyton Mannings as a rookie, since Ive been told he would be best QB coming out this year, since Ive been told Nick Foles has been the best prospect to come into Philly in 50 years then its a no brainer to trade this guy in the top 1-10. Eagle fans have told me this so it should be no problem trading this franchise QB. Im sure the Eagles phone will be ringing as soon as Kelly is announced. We may be able to get a 1 this year and next year. Then just bring in a Alex Smith.
Maybe Chip will like Foles:
“I’ll tell you what; I’m glad Nick Foles is graduating,” Oregon coach Chip Kelly said after his team’s 56-31 victory Saturday night.
“I catch myself watching him in awe sometimes. … Nick is a hell of a football player. That kid’s a warrior. He’s as good as anyone in the country.”
Hey Irish you ever heard of coach speak. This is a classic example.
@IrishEagle then I may change my mind on Chip Kelly because obviously RGIII and Andrew Luck were still in school and Nick Foles was the 7th QB taken. I guess he was in the minority with his assessment.
I would really love to see Alex Smith here which I know Im probably in the minority. I just think he is still young and overcame alot and has actually played really well the last 2 years. He actually was leading passer in NFL before he got hurt. Hes tough and mobile. Just my oinion. Even with Foles here I would love to have him and Foles compete for job for the right price.
Yes Dag you are in the minority.
LOL!!!
That’s coach speak. Dag I do question why you rely on eagles fans for your info. You have the Internet check Foles stats out. Take your blinders off. No one knows if he is going to be good but he has had a decent start to his career.
I heard one of Kelly’s demands is multiple uniform/helmet concoctions and wants the Eagles feathers on the uniform shoulders……;)
Seriously though, the uniforms need a change….get rid of the wings on the helmets and add an angry eagle ace (like boise states angry bronco), make the helmets black with a silver and green helmet logo and spruce up the uniforms
I believe Kelly will make his Decision between the Bbrowns/Eagles by late Sunday afternoon and obviously if Eagles group met for 9 Hours with him, there had to be a lot of items/plans of actions/authority/financial package discussed in detail. I do not believe Kelly is returning to Oregon as they have already named an Asst who will take over for Kelly as their next Coach so he had to make it clear to them that he was moving to the NFL
I dont want Kelly…..prefer Gus Bradley…this team needs an attitude change
Dag,
Tom Brady was the 7th QB taken in 2000 also. Not saying Foles is in the same league as Brady, but he has that in common with him. Maybe Kelly is a visionary. lol
If your not saying that then dont bring his name up. Dont you dare bring up Tom Bradys name with Nick Foles. lol Im not saying get rid of Foles just bring in competition thats all.
Paulman-
Dont agree
I think Kelly is being smart and wants to see what the nfl has to offer….if he feels neither team is right for him, he will go back to oregon and wait for the right situation in the nfl to present itself
At oregon he had a freshman qb where they can win another 3 years
In the nfl he has weeden and foles….not going to work, then look at possible draft qbs….none fit his system
May just be a discovery phase for kelly he has the perfect gig and doesnt need to make he move its win win for him
ahhhh haveacigar thanks for the insight. Thankfully if stats were what we went by every QB from Houston and Boise State would be top 5 picks. I relied on the professionsals who gave Foles a 3-5 round rating and 7th QB chosen in that draft so I guess thats what the researched netted Foles. But Im past that. I still would like Alex Smith here to compete for a spot. Nothing wrong with competition. It doesnt matter if its Smith or Foles does it as long as we put best player on field. right? Or is there some other reason you dont want Foles to compete?
Dude he is in the league! He is not a prospect. He is a third rounder with 6 games in the NFL. Those same scouts had Brady in round 7… Do you want to keep referring to him as a 7 th rounder? Burfict is I drafted… Do you refer to him as I drafted?
No problem with competitition, in fact, before foles establishes himself as a consisten winner it is probably necessary, but to sign Alex smith you will have to pay him a lot of money, and if you do that then you annoying him the starter
I would open up the competition with Edwards going forward, maybe draft a qb in 2nd, 3rdvround
Look at QB’s Geno Smith, EJ Manuel who could fit in his system and there
Will be Mike Vick in Free-Agency or possibly remain with the Eagles if he chose Philly and demanded that only if they keep Vick as part of the package
It’s possible, the Browns have a young QB on their Roster from Duke named Thaddeus Lewis who played in their final game who is a mobile QB
And could be a short-Term fix for Browns until he can find a better QB
I think Kelly realizes that he has taken the Oregon Program as far as it will go and him having that “type-A” personality and ego (as many Coaches have) that he yearns for Coaching on the big stage that is the NFL where at Oregon, games are on late, most east of the Missisippi don’t even follow or are not familiar with West Coast Football. Kelly has higher aspirations
And his time is now while so many Teans are now using the Spread Offense in the NFL where 2-3 Years from now, the fad could be over
He’s going to some Team in the NFL for 2013 no doubt
im not so sure Chips offense would work in the nfl.. defenders are bigger faster and stronger then that of the college level. you have 300 plus pound lineman running faster then most college backs. So lurie beware of this. My first choice and i though for sure he would at least get an interview is Jon CHucky Gruden. for some reason i think he would bring this city some love.. with his scowling firey pressence would bring fun back to this city of brotherly love.. Im just hoping they are interviewing him behind undercover so he dont piss espn off incase they dont hire him
Please jeff dont break my heart again
Yeah that works both ways. Oregon has no Shady, Maclin, Bryce Brown or DJax. Oregon has no Jason Peters or Brent Celek. So its kinda unfair to say the defenses are better and not to say ummmm so is the offense Chip will have dont ya think?
JH,
McCoy will not come here to be an OC. There is no incentive. Really if he is going to be an OC who would you rather have as your QB the great Peyton Manning or unknown Nick Foles. If you listened to his interview last week with the Denver media he was very disappointed he did not get the Miami job. The guy has a brilliant offensive mind. WHen you can take guys like Tebow, Orton and Delhomme and guide them to their best seasons that they will ever have in their careers and revamp offensive schemes to fit them and get your team to the playoffs that says a lot to me. All he would need to do is hire himself a DC and leave the offense to McCoy.
Mccoy is overrated.
It’s long been assumed that Michael Vick and the Philadelphia Eagles are set to part ways this offseason, but the potential hiring of coach Chip Kelly might alter the quarterback’s fate.
NFL.com’s Ian Rapoport reported Sunday the Eagles are selling Kelly on two major factors: First, a roster already stocked with the type of players Kelly recruited at Oregon, including a handful of short, fast wideouts. Second, a pair of in-house signal-callers that loom as a decent fit to operate Kelly’s up-tempo, spread attack.
Nick Foles and Vick would, indeed, give Kelly a pair of unique quarterbacks to work with. Foles is raw, but promising. Vick’s best days have passed, but he’s an intriguing fit for Kelly’s option scheme and, on paper, a better proposition than Brandon Weeden and Colt McCoy of the Cleveland Browns, the second team competing furiously with the Eagles to hire the innovative coach.
Without question, something the Eagles said Saturday clicked with Kelly. Their lunchtime meeting dragged on well into the night and hit the brakes on assumptions the Browns and Kelly are a sure thing.
If Philadelphia winds up with the top prize in this coaching derby, Vick’s presence — on a team that seemed ready to wave goodbye just days ago — might wind up serving as a difference-maker.
LOL Dag the GCobb we hate Mike Vick posters will try to burn down the Novacare practice facility.
Birdo,
You sound like a guy who really doesn’t read to get informed.If you are looking for an offensive guy to become HC he is better than anyone out there. Arians, Roman, the “legendary Chip Kelly” and the”great” Jon Gruden and his “immortal” brother Jay who All I can say about him is did you watch yesterday’s game. Now if your plan is to hire a defensive guy which I am not opposed to we can start with Fangio or Bradley and end there. Be cause Mike Zimmer took himself out of my list yesterday as well.
I hate the thought of this Dag, but I believe Rappaport’s story is accurate
Go with Vick for 2 Years, Draft am EJ Manuel in the 2nd Round and maybe Trade Foles to the Chiefs to AR and get a 3rd Round in return..
At least Foles is familiar with Ar’s System/terminology abd could help the Chiefs
From Day 1.. Lots of moving parts
My question is we all agree that no matter how you slice it Nick Foles is not the ideal QB for his system. We all agree on this. So then if the Eagles really liked Nick Foles they wouldnt bring in Chip Kelly. They would bring in a convential HC to play to Foles strengths. So then you get furious at the fans who dont think highly of Foles and the damn orgaization doesnt even think that highly of him. lol. They are selling Vick to come back. Im being told every SUNDAY about how Nick Foles is this and he is that and OWNERSHIP is telling me they are bringing in a coach who runs the read option and possibly keeping Vick. That sure doesnt sound like Foles is highly regarded IMO.
I don’t agree. Kelly knows he has to adapt in the nfl. He will try to do to Foles what pats do with Brady and broncos do with manning. Please do not interpret that as me comparing Foles to those guys. I’m saying they would employ that type of system
Mike McCoy will emerge as a leading candidate with the Cardibals/Chargers
Once he makes the Interviewing circuit
Other News- Caoliba Panthers decide to bring HC Rivera which is a good move for him, word is that he will have to make some Coaching Staff Decisions meaning the DC Sean McDermott will probably get fired
I don’t believe any real Football Fan believes that Foles is a Franchise Type QB at his stage of development. There is little list on moving away from a 3rd Roubd Prospect if you have the chance of getting the HC that you believe in and that will be HC for a long time with chances for consistent deep Playoof Runs/Championships, Foles is simply collateral damage to a Coaching change, nothing more if they choose to go with Kelly
Forget the QB. If Kelly comes here I wanna see what Lesean McCoy can do in his offense. Oregon hasnt ever had someone like THAT in the backfield.
Dag,
Interesting insights. I always thought the Eagles will score points anyway no matter who is QB(Vick or Foles) and whether the HC is Kelly, MCoy, Arians etc. The new HC is going to have to build a defense to at least get some stops and turnovers so the offense can score enough to win games because the defense can’t do anything to stop other teams. Let’s hope Howie gets some play makers on Defense, that will be the key towards moving this franchise along.
Our offense was probably equally as bad as the defense this year. Quick three and outs kept our defense of the field constantly gassed. We need to trade Maclin or DJax. Neither are a true number one receiver. Sign Dwayne Bowe and draft Joeckel. I think that friezes the offense immediately. In turn, it helps the defense without even changing the current players because they are not required to be on the field nearly as long.
Fixes not friezes.
I believe Kelly and Romeo Crennel know each other a little
Maybe Kelly if hired, can have Crennel as the Eagles DC to get that side of the Team fixed and improved with a quality and experienced DC..
The biggest thin in regards to birding a coach is, hiring one with something to prove. ie- chip Kelly, obrien, Bradley etc.. I just don’t want a retread coach. Do you honestly think Gruden would spend 18 hrs a day at the nova complex? He’s had a coushy job with espn for the last 4 years!
@paulman so if your Mike Vick and Jeff Lurie has Chip Kelly coming here because you said Foles/Vick are your QBs what do you think Vick is saying? Renegotiate? Renegotiate what? Hmmmmm. Maybe I can do a little something lol but it isnt gonna be no discount double check shit. You cant cut him he may leave. So what happens there?
It looks like Cleveland fans are now learning first-hand what a PR mess Joey Nickels Banner really is. Case in point:
1) Banner proclaims that he is all-in on Chip Kelly, even trying to butter up his agent that Colt McCoy has a future with the franchise
2) The Eagles decide to back-off upon hearing reports that the Browns are signing Kelly to a deal, only to find out that Kelly still wants to interview
3) Kelly leaves the Browns interview without a deal
4) Eagles have a “lunch” meeting that turns into dinner and a 4th meal
5) Browns leak out that they are trying to “decide” between Kelly and Marrone
6) VERY shortly later, Marrone accepts a deal in Buffalo, clearly showing that Banner was trying to feign interest in Kelly in case he lost him to the Eagles
7) Its as clear as day Banners been the problem all these years.
I’d like to see how the discussion with VIck and his agent will go…
“Hey Mike, here’s the deal. We want you to take a 2/3 pay cut. Then, you are going to be running the read-option offense. This will require you to run the ball – on purpose – 15x a game, So you are going to get hit a lot more than the last two years!! What do you say? Sound exciting??”
I’m sure, as 33 yrs old and body breaking down, he’ll love the idea of playing for 6 mil a year getting blasted into the turf over and over and over.
I dunno. To run the Kelly offense in the form it is now, an nfl team is going to need 3 young 2 million a year qbs. And went I mean young I mean under 25, because they’re going to get killed over and over and over. At least one of them is done by week 6.
You cannot have a $20 million QB in his system, because no owner would be willing to risk that asset in a system that voluntarily puts that asset at increased risk.
If Kelly comes in here and installs the Oregon system, this will be a revolutionary move (something Lurie might be excited about) that is going to see the Eagles playing with 3 3rd. 4th, and 5th round QBs on the roster getting paid peanuts.
I think there are 2 options with Kelly:
1 – this revolutionizes the NFL and changes the way teams structure their rosters and strategy
2- this will be a complete disaster
Right now I don;t see any in-between
But I do see that arrival of Kelly as a pretty hard sell on Mike Vick and his 33 yr old breaking down body. You thought he was getting hit now…….
Paul – Ian Rappaport dind’t report any story. They asked him to speculate and he did. Use your brai….oh yeah, I’ve learned you don’t have one.
Kelly is a coaching commodity because of his football brain. And anyone with a football brain has learned this about Mike Vick – the guy sucks at one key thing – playing football. Period. End of story.
Assumptions that Kelly will stick to his college system if he coaches in the NFL are stupid because they’re based on 0 evidence and weak speculation. But assumptions that he’d do that AND use a shitty football player because he ‘fits in to that system’ is DOUBLE STUPID.
@ Vinnie seems like the bloggers are higher on Foles than the actual team is. Why is that.I read better stats than Peyton Manning, Franchise QB, 5000 yards this season.lol Doesnt seem like the Eagles have the same vigor as some fans hmmmmm. But I have some good news just in from 94 WIP. Eagles on thier way to Denver to interview Mike McCoy. So that looks like maybe no on Kelly. Foles is safe for now. lol
Btc.
You gotta do more than that. This defense stinks Even with your suggested changes, when the defense is on the field they won’t stop any one. That would put the offense in the position to score every time they have the ball.They can’t get to the QB, they can’t get turnovers, the secondary can’t cover anyone. Too may holes for the offense to cover up. Howie better make Defense a priority once a HC gets hired.
Philly, point taken. This defense was the only reason why we won the three games we did. When the offense scores points, it takes so much pressure off the defense. Funny how the defense got burned for the game winning drive against Pitt yet the offense is who played terrible for 50 minutes. Towards the end of the year, I think the defense quit more than anything. Not saying our defense is any good but they looked pretty good through the first four games.
Vinnie, I see the in between – Kelly comes, makes a fart sound when Lurie/Roseman ask him if he want’s to keep vick, installs a high octane offense around 25/34/28, 10/18/81, 87 etc… Foles and/or other QB does pretty good.
There you go. What’s so impossible about that?