On Chip Kelly
Over the weekend, the Eagles crossed a couple of names off of their list when Chip Kelly announced that he would return to Oregon and an interview with Denver’s Mike McCoy ended after just three hours.
There were conflicting reports about the Eagles’ interest in Kelly, but I believe the Eagles clearly wanted him after spending nine hours with him over the weekend. I think Kelly did the Eagles a huge favor by returning to Oregon; I think of all the names that have been mentioned as possibilities for the job, he was by far the weakest.
Could Kelly be a successful NFL head coach? Maybe. But Philadelphia was not a good situation for him to step into. Right now the Eagles need a coach with some degree of proven success in the NFL, and a strong presence that can change the losing culture that has developed onto this team over the past two seasons.
Kelly wasn’t going to be that guy. By holding out for “the right situation”, it shows that Kelly isn’t confident that he can successfully make the transition to the NFL. If a head coach doesn’t have undeniable confidence in his own abilities, how can he make the jump into the highest level of professional competition and get the most out of 53 NFL personalities?
I never understood the Eagles’ high degree of interest in Kelly, and frankly I found it to be disturbing. Here you have a coach with a questionable upside that pales in comparison to that of other available names, and seemed like a high risk for a low reward. He wasn’t going to be the guy that turns the team’s dreadful defense around, and he runs an offensive scheme that isn’t built for success at the NFL level.
To me, the whole idea of hiring Kelly reeked of the “think outside of the box and outsmart everyone” mentality that the Eagles’ front office has had over the last decade. Why is this organization hellbent on trying to succeed with unconventional methods in hopes of making their own unique mark on this league?
This is same line of thinking that lead the Eagles to fooling themselves into devaluing wide receivers until 2004, devaluing the linebacker position for 14 years, building a defense around speedy undersized players instead of strong powerful ones, drafting Brandon Graham over Earl Thomas, drafting a 26-year old guard in the first-round of 2011, hiring a defensive line coach before a defensive coordinator, and hiring an unqualified offensive line coach to become a defensive coordinator.
In this case, the Eagles wanted to bring Kelly’s potentially revolutionary fast-paced offense to the NFL to overwhelm defenses, while ignoring the fact that his offense is untested in the NFL and that he would not have been the answer to the team’s defensive woes.
The fact that the Eagles did indeed make Kelly such a priority when it’s clear that he’s not the best man for this job doesn’t exactly give me more confidence than I had before in Howie Roseman and Jeffrey Lurie’s ability to guide this team back to NFL relevancy. Did anyone else notice that of all of the teams with available coaching positions, the only teams interested in Kelly were a couple of bottom-feeders (the Buffalo Bills and Cleveland Browns), and your Philadelphia Eagles.
Is that how far this team has fallen, that they’re on the same competency level as a couple of franchises that are perennially below .500?
On Mike McCoy
The Eagles also spent some time this weekend with Denver Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy.
McCoy interviewed with the Eagles on Sunday, but the meeting lasted just three hours, and the feeling after the meeting ended was that McCoy wasn’t interested in the job.
McCoy was an appealing option because of his proven track record of success with quarterbacks, and his ability to tailor an offense to best suit the talent he’s given to work with. I would have been OK with the idea of hiring McCoy, as I thought he certainly had some redeeming qualities that could benefit the team, but ultimately I think there are better options out there for this team.
On Jon Gruden And Lovie Smith
With the Eagles attempting to expand their coaching search to new horizons after the failures of Plan A (Bill O’Brien), Plan B (Chip Kelly), and Plan C (Mike McCoy), the team is now reaching out to at least one former NFL head coach by setting up an interview with former Chicago Bears coach Lovie Smith.
I have mixed feelings about the idea of Smith coaching the Eagles. He’s got a track record similar to that of Andy Reid, which is both a good thing and a bad thing. He had a strong run in Chicago, took a team to a Super Bowl (with Rex Grossman as his quarterback no less), but like Reid, his teams couldn’t get over the hump and left something to be desired.
However, unlike Reid, Smith is a strong defensive mind, and he’s certainly a guy capable of revitalizing the Philadelphia defense and turning it into a respectable unit again.
The problem with Smith was his failure to construct a reliable offense to support his great defenses. He ran through a number of offensive coordinators during his tenure in Chicago, and failed to harness the ability of Jay Cutler despite working with the talented quarterback for four seasons. (Though to be fair, Cutler isn’t exactly a joy to work with in terms of personality).
Smith has been a very successful head coach in this league, and he deserves another chance with another organization. The Eagles could do much worse than Smith, and of all of the options available, he’s the “safe” pick. I would be fine if the Eagles made Smith their man, because he would bring a positive change in philosophy to the team.
There have also been reports floating around that Jon Gruden would be interested in coaching the Eagles. While Gruden has the personality that would be easy for the city to embrace, I’m not too high on him. Gruden’s final years in Tampa Bay were reminiscent of Andy Reid’s final years in Philadelphia, and I’m not confident that he would be the guy to come in and develop a young quarterback for the future.
On Gus Bradley
If you watched the defense of the Seattle Seahawks play on Sunday and you aren’t in love with the idea of Gus Bradley coming to Philadelphia, then I question your sanity.
Everything I hear and read about Bradley makes me want the guy as the Eagles’ next head coach more and more. The reports are that he’s a phenomenal leader, and he’s responsible for building the Seattle defense into the top unit in the league. He’s done it with big, physical players (no gimmicky, wide-nine nonsense), and his unit gives up an average of just over 15 points a game, is solid against the run, excellent at creating turnovers, and lead the league in defensive scoring.
Sunday’s game against Washington didn’t start well, as the Seahawks allowed the Redskins to jump out to a quick 14-0 lead. But after that, the young defensive coordinator quickly made the appropriate in-game adjustments (something we rarely saw from the previous administration in 14 years), and shut RG III and the Redskins down for the rest of the day, not allowing a single point.
I think Bradley is easily the most intriguing name that the Eagles will be interviewing, and he’s easily my top choice for the job. Realistically though, I’d be very surprised if the Eagles hired him. It goes against the core belief of the front office that this is an offensive league, but the fact that they’re at least giving him an interview gives me some hope to cling to.
Final Thoughts
Days go by, and the end to the team’s search for a head coach doesn’t appear to be any closer to an end. No clear front-runner has yet to emerge, and the front office has been forced to expand their search as more names continue to pull themselves out of the running for one reason or another.
I like that the process has been long and drawn out so far. I like that the Eagles are being forced to interview guys who weren’t their first choice; guys like Lovie Smith and Gus Bradley that could really bring a strong positive change in philosophy to the organization.
Denny Basens is the editor of GCobb.com. Email him at dbasens@ycp.edu, or follow him on Twitter.
I love it Denny. And you are right, If there is anyone who doesn’t want Gus Bradley…………I too, question there sanity, and ability to evaluate a leader. The only one I would select before him is Vic Fangio, who surprisingly, hasn’t been mentioned in connection to any Head Coaching positions.
In the meantime, I will be sending you my thoughts on why Gus Bradley should be the Eagles next Head Coach tomorrow.
Exactly!
Iagree totally.I would love to see gus bradley as the next coach.Just love that utube video I also see where he worked as a tampa bay assistant under monte kiffin, and kiffin recommended him to pete carroll as one of the best young coaches he has ever worked with.He looks like a leader who will briing toughness.The players will come a few at a time.You cant transform the eagles d to seattles in 1 year . But they will be physical from the start and improve the personnell over 2-3 years .
Are you on drugs, drunk, senile or just stupid?
Does someone have to give you a “Revenge of the Nerds” wedgie or flick your ears to make you understand …. “THE EAGLES ARE NOT SWITCHING TO A 3-4 DEFENSE”
So stop with the Vic Fangio, BS.
The Eagles have not hired one scout or talent evaluator that has had any involvement with the 3-4 D – all their personal men are 4-3 trained and will continue to look at 4-3 personal only.
The Eagles Head Coaching search has only interviewed/ showed interest in 4-3 D coordinators such as Mike Nolan, Lovie Smith, and/or Gus Bradley.
I just threw a Gatorade Cooler full of ICE WATER over your head to wake you up from fantasies and snap you out of your denial.
E0S – Bradley rums a base 4-3/3-4 hybrid defense. His defense, and Fangio’s are both adaptable to the Eagles personel…Do your research, because I’m perfectly sain when I post on here. Its not about switching anything…Its more about having the right coach……..they need to change their mindset….even if it means switching to a 3-4.
E0S, WHO WOULD YOU WANT TO COACH THE TEAM?
A has been, out of touch coach like Bill Cowher? Jon Gruden?
Totally overvalued, and over hyped Mike McCoy? Jay Gruden? Chip Kelly?
Just a name like Lovie Smith?
Or perhaps a guy who flat out sucks like Mike Nolan?
Tell us what your game plan would be, and notice the comments from the GCobb Family that follow, and who they feel, needs to wake up.
Rum, I knew it you’re a drunk — subliminally in the first sentence told me all I need to know
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Perry Fewell—
– the Giants had the same Safety problem the Eagles did at the same time and bought in Antrel Rolle & Deon Grant to solve it –the Giants had the same MLB problem the Eagles had at the same time early in the 2011 season and they brought in Chase Blackburn and solved it —
That statement is accurate…..Your response tells me all I need to know.
You think Perry Fewell, is the answer!!!? The same Perry Fewell, that the Eagles would whip every year with Andy Reid as coach?……E0S…LOL!!.Your welcome to your opinion, lets see if he gets a job ,and how his team performs……And just don’t comment to me until you get a clue…….Perry Fewell…Please……Is anybody beating down his door for an interview?……..This is what you get for asking a logical question to a Giants fan.
again I write
Gus Bradley will be our 2013 coach. enough faggot shit around this team and mr softies. time for some fuck you up guys with fuck you up attitudes and a fuck you up no nonsense coach.
this is what we need. I know it you know it and the 3 amigos know it
Lurie knows we got a 500 record since Jim Johnson died. Gus is the guy boys.
can you publish this?
it’s a must read
fuck I may just create a petition tomorrow and get it to Lurie
get it done Lurie
we will be bad as fuck in 3-4 years win a Super Bowl in 5 then u can make a lame ass movie about it
Dude, you posted the same thing, on 4 different articles! LMFBO! Did you just leave Happy hour? WTF!!!! 😆
Thahahhaahhahah!!!!!
I have to agree on this one. Lovie would be the right move here, he just needs to delegate his offense to a good OC and let him roll.
Lovie Stinks
Former Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher told Newsday on Tuesday he wants to coach again at some point.
The timing of Cowher’s comments are interesting. With five teams still looking for a coach, Cowher said at a CBS function to promote coverage of the Super Bowl that he probably will return to the NFL.
“It would be a challenge,” said Cowher, who has been a broadcaster since leaving the Steelers in 2006, “but I think that’s probably why I would get back into it, because of the challenge.”
Cowher played linebacker for the Cleveland Browns before he was an assistant on Marty Schottenheimer’s staff.
He dismissed the idea the game has changed too much since he left.
“I did it for 27 years,” he said. “You don’t just forget things overnight
Bill Cowher is planting the seed for the NY Jets/Dallas Cowboys or if the NY Giants HC positon would open up for next off-season..
I like the name of Gus Bradley but Im not blind!. Do you know how many defensive coordinators have come from dominating defenses to become HC and somehow it just aint the same? Why? Because it aint the same players. Bradley has that monster secondary which is the cornerstone of his defense. Guess what them players dont grow on treees. Theres alot of moving parts with these coaches. Did he pick the players? Can he find 6 3 215 DBs that can play anywhere else? You just dont know. The league is littered with OC and DC from great teams that just arent very good because they dont have the same players. Be careful.
Lovie Smith I am not sure about,
He’s too laid back and question his in game Coaching decision making
Ability (he’s too much of a Andy Reid type in my opinion)
Denny,
Why would you assume that McCoy was not interested in the Eagles job? To me the short interview indicates that the Eagles were not interested in him. The natural assumption is that McCoy came to the interview because he wanted the job.
You can not assume that the Eagles are interviewing all these candidates because they want to hire them… The Eagles and Bears have been accused by other NFL teams, of interviewing candidates just to pick their brain. A tactic used by Al Davis for years.
That’s not me making an assumption…everything I’ve heard and read to this point says that McCoy didn’t want the job. Like Chip Kelly, McCoy only wanted to become a head coach if the situation was right…thus, like Chip Kelly, McCoy took the approach that if someone wants to talk to him, of course he’ll meet with them and listen…but ultimately, he’s not ready for a project like the Eagles, and preferred to stay with Denver as their offensive coordinator.
Denny,
I have not heard or read anywhere that McCoy wasn’t interested in the job. Most people are assuming the Eagles where only interested in talking to him – not hiring him. I know that he is not allowed to accept a job right now.
I have heard that several teams have complained to the league office about the Eagles interviewing people who they have no intention of hiring, just to gather information. Such as the Bengals… which is why they took so long giving the Eagles permission to interview JAY Gruden.
The Eagles are trying to get a sense of what people think of Nick Foles, so they are interviewing people who have watched him. Such as Chip Kelly, McCoy, and Jay Gruden. It’s a cheap way to get some smart guys to review film as give you their thoughts.
I think you are underestimating Jeff Lurie.
I stated numerous times that McCoy’s preference was to stay out in the West (Arizona & San Diego) .. He’s from Idaho and his Wife and Family are not keen on heading/living in the East Coast like a lot of folks who are from the Mountain Regions/West Coast/South and Mid-west.. East Coast living is not for everyone and most don’t like it all when it comes to quality of life,cost of living, congestion,pollution,etc,etc.. When you have options are you are not from the Region, why would you want to pick-up your family and live/work there..
You guys laugh at me everytime I bring up “Quality of Life Issues” as being an imprortant issue, but I am telling you as a Person who has lived in different parts of the Country (Philly,Indianapolis,Charlotte,Altoona, and now Boone,NC) who also makes family decisions along with my Wife,
that making decisions to live in an area that maybe you don’t really care for, familiar with or just too far from your family’s roots is just not as easily done as it used to be..Most of the Coahes are married, have kids in school, etc,etc and depending on thier current ties to the community are not just packing up to move, no if Coach is unemployed or feels shaky about the organzational chances, then that’s a different story, but these succesful Coordinators on good Teams that we are all throwing names around, have options and the smart ones will pick and choose on who they want to join based on a whole lot of factors and for some of them staying put in the Current Positions while having success is not a bad alternative for them at their current statge of their Career/Life..
Your retarded! McCoy was with the Panthers for a long time get a clue….I guess you spoke to his wife…
Carolina may be on East Coast time zone, but it’s not like the Northeast
Mike McCoy from my sources wants the Chargers or Arizona Jobs
If he doesn’t get, he’ll stay at Denver, coach Peyton Manning next Season and have another chance for a Siper Bowl Run
Mike McCoy is in a very good position here to choose the job/franchise that he wants, chargers he has Phil Rivers, Arizona is going to Likely Draft Matt Barkley to rebuild the Franchise, he has no interest on the Eagles position but interviewed to get his name in demand and for the interview process experience..
Does anybody actually believe the BS that you make-up on this board. You have no clue what Mike McCoy wants.
Your “Sources”… get the fuck out of here…
I agree Irish. The one part of the article I just don’t follow is why we’re assuming McCoy wasn’t interested. Also, if McCoy was their guy, I thought they weren’t allowed to hire him or announce him as HC until Denver is out of the playoffs?
Either way, when it comes to a coordinator making the transition to head coach, it’s not just about the scheme they run. I think being a head coach and a coordinator are very different. We need a leader and a guy that can inspire his staff and players. At this point, Gus Bradley seems to be that guy.
Bottom line is even before this team picks a coach they need to find a REAL GM ,not the bean counter they currently have in that position !
LOL!!
Denny, Love this article this is just a continuation of the franchise heading towards rock bottom laughingstock material. I keep saying real football coaches will not and won’t deal with Howie Roseman. I hate the fact that this search is just aimlessly going on with no clear cut direction. I would love if they were serious about Gus Bradley or Greg Roman but chances are Roman will coach the Jaguars who just hired his college roommate as the GM. As for Fangio who was mentioned earlier there must be a reason his name hasn’t been mentioned for any of the openings. Bradley or Lovie Smith has to be able to bring really good offensive assistants if not they won’t work.
To further clemenza’s point, what would be first time nfl coach would want to enter this queer type relationship among Roseman, Lurie smolenski, three nerds, you cannot justify howie’s role no matter how hard Lurie tried to sell him, now a gruden type, he comes with cache, he could basically swat the other two as he wishes, but a first time coach entering that interview room, thanks but no thanks, and Lurie has only himself to blame, look who he has surrounded himself with, it’s bad when banner looks better than Roseman, real bad
Excellent points Clemenza/BigLion & Jake
I was harping got 2 months now that Lurie’s first Priority should have been to hire a “Football Guy” first, who in turn would lead the Coaching Search, I thought it would Tom Donahoe but I was wrong (per Sources, Donahoe was hired as a “Consultant” and is simply not interested in returning to the full-time duties that the Position of the VP of Operations Postion would demand at this stage of his career and the 14-18 Hour Days that would be required during this off-season, especailly when trying to rebuild the Franchise and only is interested in remaining as a Consultant)
Up and coming Coaches are not going to want to join this Football Organzaion with the questions that remain about Roseman’s ability to be a legitimate GM of a Football Team..
As an analogy, In Politics look at all the VP Candidate names you hear every Election Cycle that are thorwn out there, well the ones who have Presidential Aspirations, don’t want to be a VP for someone else for the fear of being associated with a Losing TIcket, therefore hurting your future chances to run and win as President.. You get labled as a loser…
Same with up and coming Coordinators, they know that is they take a HC Position just to be a HC but get into a losing situation and struggle for their first 2 Years, that thy probably get fired and then their Reputations to get another HC Job are diminshed as they become labled a loser, or overmatched or just not ready for prime time yet..
Here’s a name that I heard that has an strong interest in being a HC again
with a strong Defensive Background and that is Dom Capers of the Green Bay Packers.. Keep an eye on him after the Packers Season is over..
if your Tom Donahoe wants to coast by, half hearting it then replace him with someone who gives 100%. 4-12 teams shouldn’t be paying part timers.
I think people saying coaches would not want to work with Howie Roseman are blowing things out of proportion. I would imagine most coaches view a GM as a guy who gets in their way. Any coordinator wanting to make the jump to head coach is not going to be given full control of any team. And coaching a team like Philadelphia, which is like the fourth largest market team in the NFL, is a pretty big gig. One that I think would be desirable to future head coaches. Also, IMO, I don’t think Chip Kelly or Bill O’Brien chose to go back to college because of Howie Roseman. I think that was probably their plan all along and everyone’s knee jerk reaction is to think nobody wants this job because of Roseman. If Lurie was being honest in his press conference by saying Howie’s name is really only on the 2012 draft, lets give the guy a chance and take them at their word. I don’t think there is a single negative thing anyone can say about this past year’s draft.
Do you really believe he was only responsible for the draft? How about the fact we had the two worst starting safeties in the league and had nobody to replace them or the fact that our special teams sucked because the bottom half of the roster guys were all cheap salaried guys who couldn’t play, but we had 27 million dollars in cap space?
Fair points Biglion but we’ll never know how much of this was Reid’s doing and how much of it was Howie’s. Personally, I feel like Reid had way too much power during his tenure and his poor decision making, as Denny points out, is what ultimately lead to the demise of this team; not Howie Roseman. Again, the verdict is still out on Howie. Lets see how this next offseason goes before we label Howie a terrible GM.
Anyone who believes Andy Reid in his 12th 13th & 14th year as the
Head Coach of the Philadelphia Eagles was going to have Howie Roseman in his
1st 2nd & 3rd year being the GM dictate what players to draft and what FA’s to sign is being foolish.
Andy Reid was responsible for 2010, 2011 & 2012 drafts period
Any player picked or signed was ALL Andy Reid
According to McNabb, Reid lost all that power to Banner so no, he wasn’t totally responsible for the roster and those drafts and again the back half of the roster had nothing to do with Reid that belongs to the bean counters who decide what they will pay for back ups.
Reid lost that Power after his Issues with his Kids,leave of absence,
then regained that power and authority after the Mick Vick Miracle of 2010 where he looked like a genius again to Lurie.. Joe Banner didn’t like it, and decided to move on and that’s what happened in a nutshell.. Roseman was involved and has become more active more and more every off-season in 2011 & 2012,
I agree with most of your post as for Lurie being honest. I know us gcobb guys tend to hang on interviews and get pissed off when they lie to is. When dealing with the press it is best advice to say as little as possible and always mask problems… They all do it.
Roseman may be a problem for a Gruden but let’s face it FA and coaches are always in a power struggle look at the eagles power struggles of the last few years
They will find a coach eventually, I just hope it’s the right one at this point in time it’s getting a little discouraging though.
Only 2 of 7 have been hired. It’s a process and the big coordinator names are still playing. If its McCoy, Bradley etc could notbe hired anyway. I think the nervousness comes from these two college coaches using the eagles for leverage against their colleges. This is just the process.
Re Special Teams..
During the AR Era, I noticed that Starters were rewarded by not having to play Special Teams, which has cost the Eagles plenty over the recent Seasons and really been one of the worst units in the NFL in recent years..
I watch Teams like the 49ers who use Starters Navarro Bowman, Dashon Gholton on Coverage Teams.. I see Packers using WR/Returnman Cobb as their Punt Returner, Saints using Lance Moore as Returnman and WR
Bears use Devin Hester as Returnman and WR..Giants using LB Boley,Phillips on Return Teams, Seahawks using Wagner, KJ Wright,Cam Chancellor on coverage unts
My larger point here is that you use your best players to help you win games. Do you want to use Starters on Special Teams all the time, probably not, but if the bottom of the Roster is not getting it done and it’s costing you valuable field position, huge momentum swings, big play opportunites lost,
then you put your best players out there… They is no reason that D-Jax should not been returning Punts for the Eagles, he is one of the Best in the NFL at doing this, What are you saving him for..
This is an area that must change for the Eagles and probably the easiest to fix with positve immediate results
I think the eagles are a joke….they are letting all the good candidates get signed and are interviewing the wrong people
I would have hired McCoy and then Mike Pettine as def coordinator, but the bills got him last night
The only people signed were Reid and marrone. Wtf are you talking about.
Jott, what good candidates have been signed other than Doug Marrone?
Let me rephrase what I meant was they are interviewing the wrong people
Of course they will find a coach. And I have to echo IrishEagles’ comments from yesterday. I find it very difficult to believe that someone like McCoy “turned down” the Eagles, because of Roseman, Foles or whomever.
Not many co-ordinators are going to turn down opportunities. No matter who is the GM. Financially, turning down a guaranteed $20million dollars is ludicris in the first place. You’re making less than a million a year and someone suddenly offers you 4 yrd 20 mil….you don’t turn that down.
Always easier to go back to a co-ordinator job after failing as a coach (see Morningwheg, Marty) than it is to have other head coaching opportunities come your way. (the College guys being exceptions because they are being paid millions).
My favourite 3 at this point:
Mike McCoy
Gus Bradley
Marc Trestman.
McCoy has other options, I no longer think Foles is the problem it’s all about how much power and influence Howie is going to have over the roster.
Stop panicking dude! They haven’t even interviewed Arians or Bradley!
Gus Bradley is the best option now
How about the free agent signings following the lock out, and th 2011 draft, Reid said Watkins was howie’s pick, gave howie kudos following the pick, I am telling you Lurie gave a load of bs at that press conference, howie had his hands in those signings, particularly assomaugh, the fact is the eagles franchise has deteriorated significantly since an unqualified general manager took the reigns, Lurie has something going on with Roseman, he should have been fired along with Reid, and at that press conference Lurie was basically justifying, although lying, about why howie is staying while Reid is gone, and also consider banners rather abrupt departure, there is much more going on then we know, but those on the inside know, and as I believe big lion said, the small fraternity of coaches, would be coaches know, that’s why it’s taking this long, why the two, three top college coaches said thanks, no thanks
You can’t knock Reid or Howie for signing Nnamdi. He was viewed by all as one of the top 2 corners in the league. Nobody could have predicted the abysmal performance we’d get out of him.
I think they did knock someone out of the building for the 2011 spending spree, which included Nnamdi, and it was .. Joe Banner
Banner was out of the loop by the end of the 2010 Season for all intents and purposes.. AR regained his Authority with the miracle work of Vick in 2010 and Banner wanted no part of the direction of where the Franchise was heading and and Roseman was running the GM Duties/Contracts after the 2010 Season
it is so frustrating not knowing who ran the show and drafts down there — too many opinions not enough Lombardi trophies or any
Again…there have only been 2 hires.
Reid, the guy we fired went to KC, and a 25-25 college coach went to the wasteland that is Buffalo (now there’s a team that was desperate and grabbed the first guy who said yes).
I am not concerned at this point at all.
It is already starting again … too many hands in the cookie jar.
3 people interviewing a Head Coach
This will result in a room full of voices selecting players at the draft.
Why can’t the Eagles just have one man in charge of the Roster and all Hires?
A real General Manager
I would welcome Howie Roseman as that GM; but with 3 people flying around the country already it appears the Eagles drafts will look like the USA Supreme Court with 9 different opinions… again.
I have a little more Faith in Lurie.
He’s made 2 hires as an owner…and Both were relatively successful.
Rhodes was fun for a bit (doesn’t anyone remember 58-37?) though the bombastic style always has a short shelf life.
Though he did leave a good legacy with several solid holdover defensive players and he himself did an excellent job of hiring assistants including Gruden, McCarthy, Peyton, Harbaugh, Emmit Thomas)
The Reid selection was very very good. And while the last 5 years were a disaster, they do not negate the very exciting 1999-1006.
So two pretty good hires.
What we do know about Lurie is that he will take his time. He will pick who he wants….and who he wants is probably going to be young (in his 40s).
I’m thinking McCoy and Bradley are probably now at the top of the list….though I still also like Trestman (older, but would be one of those “who?” picks)
Jeff hasn’t done anything special
there are 16 teams in the NFC and he went to one super bowl in a 16 year time frame
whoopie
I have never seen Utah play – is the DT really that good? Can he become a Vince Wolfork or Haloti Ngata and maybe have Fletcher Cox slide out to be a Red Bryant type DE in a Gus Bradley coached team.
Yes, E0S, a Haloti Ngata clone with Jerome Brown speed, and sack ability….Should be the Eagles 1st pick to pair with Fletcher Cox.
He’s a Ngata clone, with better pass rushing abilities, that can play 4-3 DT, or 3-4 NT! Love him! Hope he’s still there at #4.
Star Lotulelei from Utah is a Player for sure and will make a nice NFL DT
He’s 6-3 320lbs , quick and strong .. a tandem with Cox would make a formidable DT Tandem that would be strong agaisnt the run and penetrate often enough to make plays behinf the line of scrimmage and even get after the QB..
Many Scouts compare him to a H Ngata of the Ravens..
Star is probably not the Pass Rusher that N Suh is from the Detroit Lions is or as stoudt versus the run as Wolfork is, but a nice combo who will get a little bigger and stronger as he gets into a NFL Program
good info as usual, you see any benefit to sliding Fletcher to DE like a Red Bryant or Heaven help us “Reggie White” after selecting Star Lotulelei
no
unless they’re playing Bradleys 3-4 package
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Depending on the next DC’s Philosophy, I definitely could see Fletch Cox sliding out at DE on occasions..
you’ve been begging for this since the start. Leave him at DT.
When I say slide Cox outside as a DE, I don’t mean as a full time- 4 Down DE, but I think there are times (against strong running teams) that he can slide out to De to hold the side of the Defense down which Coke/ Babin were unable to do since that were only thinking of getting to the QB
I also would use him on some pass-rushing situations and let him lose one on one with a OT instead of being double-teamed most of the time in the Interior. The opposing OT’s are used to the Eagles small, but fast speedballs coming at them every snap and I just think it would be effective to have line up a DE and use his size and strength against some of the opposing OT’s once in a while, mix it up a little..
Fun stopping DT is definitely a need. I would be very happy with that if he makes it to 4. If not, then Joeckel.
Where does you guys think that Texas S Vaccarro goes? Any interest?
Yes Bugs …He can go from mid-late 1st to early 2nd…..He is the best safety prospect in the draft….Eagles would have to make a trade to be in a position to draft him.
So do you think that worth getting another pick in the end of the 1st round for him?
I think Kenny Vacarro is on the Draft Board come early 2nd Round..
Top 8 Safeties in the 2013 Draft (thru the 3rd Round)
1) Eric Reid – LSU 6-2 215 Lbs – (Late 1st Rounder/Early 2nd)
2) Matt Elam – Florida 5-10 202lbs – (Early 2nd Rounder)
3) Ken Vacarro – Texas 6-1 218lbs – (Early -Mid 2nd Rounder)
4) Phillip Thomas – Fresno St 6-1 215lbs (Mid-late 2nd Rounder)
5) Robert Lester – Alabama 6-2 212 lbs (Late 2nd/early 3rd Rounder)
6) Bacarri Rambo – Georgia 6-0 210lbs (Early 3rd Rounder)
7) Tony Jefferson – Oklahoma 5-11 212lbs (Mid/Late 3rd Rounder)
8) TJ McDonald – USC 6-2 205lbs (Mid/Late 3rd Rounder
Paul Reid, and Elam can’t touch Vacarro in either run support, or Pass Coverage….Both of them are mocked as mid – late 2nd
Kenny Vacarro is mocked between 1- early 2nd
Phillip Thomas is mocked between Rounds 2-4
Robert Lester is mocked between Rounds 3-4
Tony Jefferson is mocked between Rounds 1-3
There also is Duke Williams – Nevada – also mocked between 2-4
Hell yes Bugsy he’ll be a starter from day 1. They may have to go back into round 1 to get him though.
Agreed! Hopefully to the Birds, in the 2nd. Either he, or Elam, need to be on this roster next year.
Run stopping I mean. haha
Breaking News –
Buffalo Bills hire Mike Pettine as their Def/Coordinator which is a very good hire
for them and new Coach Doug Marrone
That is a good move for the Bills….had hoped the Birds would be in a position to hire him, but first things first.
Roseman was asked what made the Eagles attractive to candidates.
“They know we have a great owner who’s going to support and give as much resources as possible to make sure we succeed,” Roseman said. “They know that we just supported a coach for 14 years. So we’re built that way. This whole organization is built to support a head coach. They know that not only in words but in actions. All they have to do is call Andy Reid.”
“We’ve developed a family here. People that have been here have been here a long time. They’ve grown together. … Not saying we’re a perfect franchise by any stretch of the imagination. It’s a great tribute to Jeffrey and what he’s building here.”
Meanwhile the Eagles ar 12-22 in their last 34 NFL Games, have a losing Record at home over the last 3 Seasons and a Roster with a lot of holes in it at every position but the RB Corps and maybe the Kicker
So go ahead and call Andy Reid and Joe Banner and see what the really say about Lurie/Roseman, I bet it’s not as flattering as your describing now that Banner and Reid have move on and have other jobs..
Great points paulman. Everyone must be held accountable and everyone except Lurie has a boss we know this, but it would bug the hell out of me if I were a lifelong football coach and two young ass bean counters who probably don’t even know how to put on a helmet were questioning my football knowledge. This is why I hate fantasy football every idiot thinks they can run a franchise.
Paul,
You’re not real bright. If the Eagles didn’t suck so bad they wouldn’t be looking for a coach. And you don’t have to ask Andy Reid if he was treated fairly…the fact that he was here 14 years proves that the owner is supportive of the coach.
Get off the idea that a potential coach would not come to Philly because of Howie Roseman because you are wrong. Even established coaches like Jon Gruden is chomping at the bit to get the job. How do you explain Gruden soliciting the help of Jaworski and now Dick Vermeil to try to get the Eagles to reach out to him.
There’s no mystery here – it’s an attractive job.
Roseman was asked -What do you talk about in a meeting that lasts upwards of nine hours?
“Everything. Every aspect of the organization,” said Roseman. “It’s how they run meetings, it’s how they run training camp, what they’re looking for in players, what they’re looking for in coaches. Getting an overall picture. Being a head coach in the National Football League is a big job, and you’re a CEO, so you have to have a plan and know what you’re doing in every area. You would be surprised at how detailed these people are, when it comes to strength and conditioning or training staff or equipment or video, they have the answers. It’s very interesting to hear.”
Interesting Irish, but the question should have been, are you looking to make an input on the roster decisions or will the coach be allowed to make any and all decisions on the draft and personnel. I think we kind of know how those interviews go and right now it’s not the coaches philosophy we should be worried about.
I was excited last week, and even this weekend. I guess we just have to be patient and hope for the best. At least Bradley still excites me, would love to see that style of play.
Your right Xevious, we may have to wait until after the Super Bowl. We don’t really know who they are targeting only what’s being released to the press. The only thing I worry about is getting the right guy and I know only 2 jobs have been filled but I don’t care about what the other teams are doing.
I am still excited and fine with them taking their time. I would like them to get a look at the coordinators of teams that are still playing. There is no coach that I love right now so much that I wouldn’t want to wait.
Gruden is in philly now eagles definely signing him
Jon or bro? and where have you seen this?
Philly fans – relax and take a chill pill. The only way the coaching situation gets resolved quickly is if the Birds hire Lovie, Jon Gruden or a coach not in the playoffs. Seems the masses like Bradley and McCoy (I want Bradley), but neither of them can receive or accept an offer until their team is eliminated from the playoffs. This could go to February. Hang tight…
In exciting Eagles’ news.
Looks like Eagles agent Mike Shanahan did his job well. FIrst, not teaching RGIII the pro game, and 2nd exposing him to injury.
Early reports have Griffin out till at least the end of August….but I’m reading up on the LCL which – because it can’t really be braced – will take even longer.
At very least he’s out till mid-season, and we all know if the name isn’t Peterson, its another few months before he’s really good to go after that.
+ miss all the passing camps + missing training camp
+ if Shanahan the coach in DC when he comes back, we might just kiss the kids career goodbye. 2 ACL surgeries on the same knee already?
Songs already moving on and buying Russel Wilson Jerseys.
Haha. I feel bad for RG3 but even worse for Songs who just forked out almost $100 for an RG3 jersey. I think Songs referred to the Redskins as a winning organization. They’ve won two playoff games in the last 20 years.
I cannot agree more with you Vinnie. Shanny is a disgrace…I heard Theisman touting the Redskin line today on the radio. The whole thing is an embarrassment. RG3 not only had his development stunted to win now, he in all probability shortened his career. Shanny should be held accountable for this. I know if this happened in Philly we wouldnt be as quiet or stupid as the Washigton media or fanbase. As an Eagles fan It’s good news, as a football fan it’s an utter disgrace. Washington is a bullshit franchise that has Mickey Mouse as its leader. Have fun songs!!
The Jay Gruden interview was scheduled for today I believe
Jon gruden not jay idc much for jay unless jon comes with him
**NFL News**
Jaguars hire new GM (From Falcon Organization) and will fire 1st year HC Mike Mularky.. Top Candidates are OC Greg Roman from 49ers and DC Mike Nolan from the Falcons
Brownns interview Panther OC Rob Chudzinski for their HC Position
Greg Roman will get the Jags job book it.
Tom Telesco was hired as GM by Chargers!
This guy reported to Ryan Grigson with the Colts… Ryan Grigson was director of college scouting, and then director of player personnel for the Eagles under Howie Roseman.
Telesco will immediately join a four-man search committee — including team president Dean Spanos, executive vice president John Spanos, assistant GM and executive vice president of football operations Ed McGuire, and consultant Ron Wolf — in pursuit of a coach to replace the fired Norv Turner.
Looks like every team brings the bean counters to the interviews. lol
I look for the Chargers to Hire MIke McCoy who is obbviously familiar with the
AFC West Division Teams and can help them get their biggest start player
QB Phil RIvers back on track again which is their only chance to become a contendor again.. Mike McCoy fits their Profile perfectly
Packers O/C Tom Clements could also be a dark-horse candidate and who has a good relationship with Advisor Ron Wolf who used to be the PAckers GM and probably Hired Clements some years back…
I think the hiring of Telesco makes it even more likely that the Chargers will hire Bruce Arians.
I think the Eagles might hire Mike McCoy. There will likely be a second interview with him at some point when the Broncos are out of it. The Eagles didn’t want to take up all his time last week.
Eagles future is bright, I gotta wear shades. Eagles finally got rid of that fraud Songs who year after year brought his bad karma to the team and mushed this franchise every year.
Songs converts to a Redskins fan then blam they lose and RG3 blows out his knee….
This could be good for us boys the bad karma and mushing powers of songs is gone!!!!!!!
Don’t speak too soon. if we draft Geno Smith, he’ll be right back on the Birds knob! He’s a front running, band-wagon jumping, non-fan, who roots for race, & individuals, over his so-called team, the Birds! He’s a fraud!
I dont understand why the Eagles have not interviewed Panthers O-Coordinator Rob Chudzinski – the guy is a Sean Payton clone….super talented offensive guy who is young and very bright…
COACHING
In his first season as Carolina’s offensive coordinator in 2011, Rob Chudzinski directed an offensive turnaround as the Panthers set team records for total yards (6,237) and first downs (345) one year after experiencing franchise lows in both categories. Their 48 touchdowns scored were the second most in team history, also one year after recording a franchise low. The Panthers jumped from last in total yards to seventh in the league – the biggest improvement in offensive ranking since St. Louis improved 26 spots from 27th in 1998 to first in 1999.
The centerpiece of Chudzinski’s offense was rookie quarterback Cam Newton, who became the first player in NFL history to pass for 4,000 yards and rush for 500 yards in a single season. Another weapon in Chudzinski’s offense was veteran wide receiver Steve Smith, who produced his first 1,000-yard receiving season since 2008 and helped the Panthers lead the league in explosive plays of 20 or more yards with 90. The running game was equally effective as the Panthers became the first team in NFL history to have three players with 700 or more yards in the same season: running back DeAngelo Williams (836), running back Jonathan Stewart (761) and Newton (706), who set an NFL record for quarterbacks with 14 rushing touchdowns.
Chudzinski followed head coach Ron Rivera from the San Diego Chargers to Carolina to be the Panthers offensive coordinator. In 17 previous seasons as an NFL and college assistant, he had success leading offenses and earned a reputation for developing tight ends.
As the Chargers’ tight ends and assistant head coach in 2010, Chudzinski helped San Diego rank first in the NFL in total offense with an average of 395.6 yards per game and second in scoring with an average of 27.6 points per game.
Tight end Antonio Gates excelled during both of Chudzinski’s two-year stints on the Chargers coaching staff from 2005-06 and 2009-10. Gates made his seventh consecutive Pro Bowl in 2010, one year after producing a career-high 1,157 yards. In 2005, Chudzinski’s first season as San Diego’s tight ends coach, Gates registered the only other 1,000-yard receiving season of his career with 1,101 yards on a career-high 89 receptions.
In between Chudzinski’s stints with the Chargers, he served as the Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator for two seasons. In 2007, the Browns won 10 games – their most wins since 1994 – and Chudzinski’s offense played a key role in the team’s success. Cleveland ranked eighth in the league in total offense and scoring, accumulating 5,621 net yards and 402 points.
Four players went to the Pro Bowl: quarterback Derek Anderson, wide receiver Braylon Edwards, tackle Joe Thomas and tight end Kellen Winslow II. Anderson threw 29 touchdowns, while Edwards and Winslow combined with running back Jamal Lewis to give the Browns two 1,000-yard receivers and a 1,000-yard rusher.
Chudzinski began his pro coaching career as Cleveland’s tight ends coach in 2004 and worked with Winslow, the team’s top draft choice. He was elevated to offensive coordinator for the final five games of the season under interim head coach Terry Robiskie after the resignation of head coach Butch Davis.
From 1994-2003, Chudzinski spent 10 years as an assistant at his alma mater, the University of Miami (Fla.): three seasons as offensive coordinator, five as tight ends coach and two as a graduate assistant.
During his three years as offensive coordinator, he guided a unit that went 12-0 and won the national championship in 2001 and set school records for points, total yards and rushing touchdowns the next season. In addition, Chudzinski worked with numerous future NFL players, including them wide receiver Andre Johnson, running backs Frank Gore, Willis McGahee and Clinton Portis, tackle Bryant McKinnie and quarterback Ken Dorsey.
Promoted from graduate assistant to tight ends coach in 1996, Miami’s tight ends flourished under Chudzinski’s tutelage. He mentored Bubba Franks, Jeremy Shockey and Winslow, all of whom were All-Americans and became first-round draft picks and Pro Bowl players in the NFL.
PLAYING AND PERSONAL
A three-year starter at tight end for Miami (Fla.) from 1986-90, Chudzinski played on national championship teams in 1987 and 1989. He earned a bachelor’s degree in business administration in 1990 and added a master’s degree in business administration in 1996.
HISTORY
Tight end Miami (Fla.) 1986-90. College coach: Miami (Fla.) 1994-2003. Pro coach: Cleveland Browns 2004, 2007-08, San Diego Chargers 2005-06, 2009-10, joined Panthers in 2011.
I like Chudzinzki alot and he will make a very good HC and will make a nice fit with Cleveland and their Young QB/Receivers that they have..
He’s not the most dyanmic personality around be as a former player,commands repsect and is a tough, no-nonsense type of guy.. He has a bright future.. Here’s what you need to know aoubt Chudzinski..Since he lefft the SD Chargers, QB Rivers and TE Gates had seen their Performance and Productivity Drop each year since he’s left…
Brad Childress in KC today interviewing for OC job or to be advisor to HC Andy Reid, espn’s Adam schefter reports
what makes me mad is that bringing Chilly back to Philly and hiring a real D.C. would have really helped the birds back a year or 2 ago. My guess is that Andy will learn a lesson or 3 out of all of this.
There was a report going around that Andy and Marty had an argument just before Andy was let go. Don’t know what it was about.
Yes on AR learning some lessons ..
Word floating out of NovaCare is that Coach Marty M will be the OC and Asst HC to the New HC, Gus Bradley, who will concentrate on the Defensive Side of the Ball.. What’s worse is that Special Teams Coach Bobby April remains also and still will be in charge of Special Teams.. Both MM and Bobby April will be heading to Moblie,Al for Senior.. Interesting fact is that Todd Bowles cancelled his plans to go which tells me he will bold the EAgles and reunite with Mike Nolan down in Jacksonville..
Lots of moving Parts as usual, but this Gus Bradley kid is doomed before he even gets 1 Season in being forced to keep Marty M and Bobby April…
Marty Mornhinweg and Bobby April have a better chance of catching diphtheria than they do being coaches for the Philadelphia Eagles in 2013.
ROTFLMFBO!!!!!
Very Funny Paul……
Ben McAdoo, should be the OC/Asst. Head Coach
Bradley will Probably bring Rocky Seto with him from Seattle to be his D-Coordinator
And His Best Friends Seattle DL Coach – Todd Wash, and Rob Selah – Defensive Quality Control
Would also love for Bradley to create a position for Ken Norton Jr as Assistant Defensive Coordinator/ LB Coach…….and Joe Lombardi from New Orleans as Assistant Offensive Coordinator/QB Coach.
Cliff you think Pete Carroll will let all those assistants leave?
Those three yes. Maybe not Norton. They are all close friends, and I think they would support Gus. They have a lot of assistants with those positions that would step in if they left.
Matt Nagy may be KC’s new quarterback coach.
I know Matt Nagy. We have the same barber….well, we use to. I caught up with him at one of those Eagles Mens Training Camps a couple years ago. Very knowledgable guy and did some big things in Arena Football.
Nice article denny.
You hit the nail on the head, with the organizations
“We are smarter than the entire world” attitude.
I BLAME “JAKE AND THE FATMAN” for that.
Andy Greed was front and center, and the more people he got rid of the worst things got. So when he was the last man standing we all saw how sorry things. went.
I know we disliked banner, but he held a tigher grip on the purse strings. This year Christmas came early for alot of veterans and how did they play?
Desean “boney James” Jackson – bum
Babin – bum
Trent cole – bum
Herramens – did he even play this year?
Vick – bum
Took all the motivation out of them. They all mailed it in.
So piece by piece Reid blamed everybody else by way of firing them.
Once he was left. We got the Real Reid I have been hollering about for the last 4 years.
A FAT bum. Loser.
It will be interesting to see Reid’s new coaching staff.
Anyway. Miss Alabama is Fine and AJ Mccoring is wuss…see tmz article.
Thank you Brent Musburger for the excellent play by play.
I will have my son’s tossing the ball around with pops today.
Guys – Adam Schefter tweeted that the Eagles interviewed ND Brian Kelly after their bowl game loss……they will continue talks when he gets back from his vacation out of the country
Norte dame had a great recruiting season. lots of blue chips coming in. don’t know if I can believe he is coming here
I am 100% convinced Gus is the guy
Eagles are wasting time.This screams Howie Roseman; He’s the only one of the three claiming to be a real football man………
He’s like a lot of guys on GCobb.com, who just come up with candidates, because the name is a popular, and well known. This is ridiculousness. Just get it done and focus on your interview with Gus . I don’t want anyone else at this point.
LOL the ultimate fantasy football guy.
Right Biggie