Kolsky NFL Mock Draft 1.0
1. Jacksonville Jaguars-DE-Jadeveon Clowney (Trade with Houston). Second year head coach Gus Bradley has dreams of lining up Clowney on his defense. The Texans really like the potential of Clowney opposite of JJ Watt, but ultimately see starting quarterback as a bigger need.
2. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- WR-Sammy Watkins (Trade with Rams)- With only Vincent Jackson as a reliable passing option on the roster, Lovie Smith goes all in for the best wide receiver in the draft to pair up with Vincent Jackson.
3. Houston Texans-QB-Blake Bortles (From Jacksonville)- The former Penn State head coach sees some good pieces in place with his offense and defense. The Texans debate trading down further in the first round, but Bortles is the most “NFL” ready in their opinion.
4. Minnesota Vikings (Trade with Browns)- LB-Khalil Mack- The Vikings have an electric up and coming offensive player in wide-receiver Patterson. They will now look to cash in with a game changing defensive stud.
5. Oakland Raiders- OT-Greg Robinson– No Mike Evans or Manziel? This is the Raiders…! The Oakland Raiders will make the intelligent football decision, and take the best player available, which happens to be an offensive lineman.
6. Atlanta Falcons-LB-Anthony Barr- The Falcons could go in many directions, they have a terrible defense, and need a tight-end. A bit too high to take Ebron, the Falcons instead reach on a linebacker who many believe they could have traded down to take 6-8 spots later.
7. Rams (From Tampa Bay)- OT-Jake Mathews- Jeff Fisher knows what type of player he will get to protect his quarterback with the last name Mathews.
8. Cleveland Browns (From Minnesota)–WR- Mike Evans– Jordan Cameron, Josh Gordon and now Evans? Who is going to throw them the football? Many expect this selection to be Johnny Football, but the Browns show they are loading up on receiving options for their unnamed quarterback.
9. Buffalo Bills- OT-Taylor Lewan- The Bills are a run first team with a young quarterback. Lewan has the athleticism to handle both the run and pass blocking responsibilities.
10. Detroit Lions-CB-Justin Gilbert– The Lions consider Ha Ha Clinton Dix as well, but Gilbert they see as the man responsible for matching up against some of the elite pass catchers in the NFC North.
11.Tennesse Titans- TE-Eric Ebron- The Titans have a lot of speedy receiving options for Locker. Ebron has both speed and the size to create space for the other receivers, and provide Locker with a constant target when needing a reliable set of hands in the middle of the field.
12. New York Giants-DT-Aaron Donald– The Giants have always enjoyed versatile defensive lineman. Donald will be able to play both defensive end and tackle with his combination of speed and strength.
13. Dallas Cowboys- S-Ha Ha Clinton Dix (Trade with Rams)– The Cowboys need help with their secondary, especially at safety. Ha Ha is the best safety in the draft.
14. Bears-DT-Timmy Jernigan– The Bears added Jared Allen and Lamarr Houtson to play the end positions, Jernigan will man the tackle as the defense looks to bounce back after being the 30th ranked team verse the run in 2013.
15. Steelers– S-Calvin Pryor– They lost Clark and this could be the last year for Troy, Pryor is the type of safety that fits the mold in Steel City.
16. Dolphins-OT-Zach Martin (Trade from Rams from Cowboys)- Their offensive line received some boost with the signing of Brandon Albert, this will take care of the other tackle position.
17. Baltimore- C.J. Mosely- Slowly re-building the line-backer core, Mosely will be a starter day one, and could make a push for rookie of the year in the Ravens 3-4 system.
18. Jets- WR-Brandin Cooks– Whether it’s Vick or Geno, Cooks ability to make plays after the catch will compliment Eric Decker and the poor passing attack from 2013.
19. Jacksonville Jaguars- QB-Johnny Manziel (Trade from Rams from Dolphins)- The Jaguars are making it known that they are not going to be bottom dwellers for years to come. They are willing to pay the price for Manziel as they did with Clowney, surrendering much of their draft depth outside of round 1 in 2014, and some high picks in 2015.
20. Arizona Cardinals- Darqueze Dennard- Offensive line is an issue, but they will get their 2013 first round selection back and they made some moves in free agency. With Patterson, Mathieu and the addition of Dennard, this is a young , physical and talented trio that will solidify the secondary for the Cardinals for years to come.
21. Green Bay Packers- DE/OLB Dee Ford- Offensive line and tight-end will be addressed in the later rounds. They already have Mathews and Peppers so Dee Ford will learn from the great ones.
22. San Francisco-CB-Bradley Roby (Trade with Eagles)- The 49ers have Roby rated higher on their board then Dennard and are eager to get their guy and help sure up a secondary for a Super Bowl run. The 49ers have a ton of picks, and the Eagles are looking to acquire more, it’s a good match for a draft day deal.
23. Kansas City Chiefs-WR-Odell Beckham Jr.- Alex Smith will get another weapon to throw to opposite Bowe and Charles. Beckham fills a major hole for the Chiefs who also have some work to do with their offensive line as three starters left for new teams in the offseason.
24. Cincinnati Bengals- CB-Kyle Fuller- The teams in the division have some big time wide receivers, adding a guy like Fuller will certainly help slow them down.
25. San Diego Chargers- WR-Marqise Lee– The Chargers have a stud in Allen, but the drop off in depth for reliable passing targets is huge. Rivers rebounded nicely last season with a new head coach, and adding a guy like Lee who could work the middle of the field will be a great selection at this spot for San Diego.
26. Cleveland Browns- QB-Derek Carr- They got the guy they wanted all along. Carr has the arm strength to get the ball to his playmakers.
27. New Orleans Saints- OLB-Ryan Shazier- The Saints saw a lot of players and talent exit their football team for salary reasons. Shazier will be a perfect weapon for Rob Ryan to use for a much improved Saints defense.
28. Carolina Panthers-WR-Kelvin Benjamin- Caw Newton will have a new #1 to throw the ball to not named Steve Smith. Benjamin will have plenty of time to use his ability to create space with the scrambling ability of Cam Newton.
29. New England Patriots- OLB/DE Kyle Van Noy- This is a bit early for the BYU product, but he has the versatility and leadership the Patriots are looking for with their defense.
30. St. Louis Rams-QB- Teddy Bridgewater (Trade with Eagles from the 49ers)– Fisher sees the potential in this kid, tough, smart and accurate with his throws. Not exactly the second coming of Steve McNair, but enough for him to trade back into the first round and have an option if the Bradford experiment fails again this season.
31. Denver Broncos-OG- Xavier Su’a-Filo- If Peyton Manning is going to continue playing in the NFL, he will need to stay upright. The Broncos spent plenty of $$ to improve their defense and replace Decker in the passing game. Their attention will be on offensive line in round one.
32. Seattle Seahawks-DT- Ra’Shede Hageman- The Seahawks like athletic, high motor guys for their defensive line. After missing out on Jared Allen, they will gladly insert a guy like Hagerman into the mix, causing havoc with his abilities to disrupt the run and get pressure on the QB.
Summary:
-The Eagles trade out of the first round twice. The Eagles made a play for Mike Evans but the cost was too high with the Eagles only holding 6 selections. The Eagles would have drafted Cooks if he fell to them at pick #22 but they were not going to trade up for him. The other WR’s in round one the Eagles felt were similar to those available in the rounds to follow, and elected not to draft them.
-Dee Ford would have been their selection with pick #22 if not for the Green Bay Packers. With their 3 guys off the board (Dennard, Cooks, Ford) they swap picks with the 49ers that have their eyes on Bradley Roby at pick #22.
-At pick 30, the Eagles are contacted by the Rams, and gladly take an early second round pick in addition to other picks for both this year and next year, and stock up for what will be an active day #2 of the draft.
Trade Compensation
**With the trade with San Francisco, Eagles swap first round selections, and receive an additional 3nd (77th overall) a 4th (129 overall) and a 7th (243rd overall)
**With the Rams- Eagles trade their first round pk (30th overall from SF) and receive 2 selections the Rams received during their trade with Tampa Bay, in addition to the Rams 6th round selection. 2nd round (38th overall), a 4th round (104 overall) and a 6th round (188th overall).
There would need to be a lot of guys off the board for the Eagles to justify trading down. They need a high quality starter for 2015 from their first pick. If Pryor, Mosley, Su-a-Filo and Fuller are gone then maybe I would trade down. But you have to take any of those guys if they are there. The odds of the Eagles getting significant impact from this draft this year are slim though. OLB, CB or WR wouldn’t even start. Su-a-Filo could make Herremans a final roster cut assuming they make nice with Mathis. There are a lot of players I don’t want to even think about lest I have the Brandon Graham draft day meltdown again. For example Dennard, Robey, Ford, Beckam, Lee, Hageman among others.
Good Job Jeff.. just to Confirm after all these Deals that the Eagles would then have the Following Selections
2nd Rd (38th)
2nd Rd (54th)
3rd Rd (77th)
3rd Rd (86th)
4th Rd (104th)
4th Rd (118th)
5th Rd (129th)
5th Rd (150th)
6th Rd (188th)
7th Rd (243rd)
Eagles would hold 11 picks after those trades are made.
Rd 1- No picks
Rd 2- (38th) and (54th)
Rd 3- (77th) and (86th)
Rd 4- (104th), (122nd) and (129th)
Rd 5- (162nd)
Rd 6- (188th)
Rd 7- (237th) and (243rd)
I like it … More Picks in the 2nd thru 4th Rounds is the way to go
in my opinion… I am not so sure they would get this many Picks though
they call this the New England Patriot plan –
who publishes a mock draft where the local team (that every one spends 365 days a year discussing) doesn’t select a player at all?
ridiculous —
In a draft as deep as this one, the Eagles could absolutely take a player in round 1, a WR, a # 3/4 CB, a OLB like a Dee Ford or a rotattional front line guy on the D,
Or the Eagles could make moves by adding fire power to rounds after round one. Start plugging in multiple players in rounds now that you don’t have to decide on just “one player.”
Rd- 2- WR/S
Rd-3- OLB/Best available
Rd- 4- CB/WR/Best Available
You could walk away with guys that could start this year. You want Bryant from Clemson in addition to a WR in rd 2, now you can have both. Safety from washington state and the cb from oklahoma who is going to slide, sure…have them both.
Similar in style to how the Eagles approach free agency the last two years, building a team with solid talent with the hopes that a few become top end players.
We need multiple pieces of defense, and atleast 2 wr’s.
How do you make that happen? Get extra picks. Just an option, the Eagles could very well do the extreme and send multiple picks this year and next year for a top 9-12 type player.
Demeco Ryans is the only player on the eagles roster I think is a below average player. I don’t think they need an infusion of youth or new talent every where. I think they need to look ahead and replace what they think they will lose in the future due to age and/or free agent pilfering by other teams. Your plan is for an Oakland Raider, Jacksonville or Washington Redskin roster that have below average players everywhere. The birds don’t have bums on the team anymore.
11 starters on defense. Guys I feel are good players- Cox, Kendricks, Barwin, Jenkins. Great-Boykin.
Ryans and Cole will be gone by 2015. Carry Williams and Fletcher also could be gone. Thorton is signed for just the one year deal, and at best, he is a “nice” player. Logan is also a “nice” player, these guys would be rotational players on ELITE teams.
At safety we hope Wolff is a guy who can play at this level, and Nate Allen was resigned as security incase Wolff could not stay healthy or play at this level.
At WR.. Maclin on a 1 year deal, and after that it’s very thin.
By adding multiple players we can keep this team as a top 4 NFC team, fighting for a deep run in the playoffs while we still have a guy like McCoy in his prime.
New England does your plan almost every year, that is their strategy.
Thornton was our best Defensive Player last year – He’s more than nice –
Logan isn’t nice at all – He’s not Big enough to play the Nose – he just outplayed Sopoaga – But that’s not saying much – He is actually a role player
Wolfe is another backup type as well Jeff – Nothing Special there either…
Please don’t pump him up to be better than he is, because we have nothing better in front of him…
Deone Buchannnon would eventually unseat him as the starter as he learns the Defensive Scheme – if he were drafted by the Eagles….
We need a lot on Defense – Outside Myckal Kendricks, Malcolm Jenkins, and Thornton – all we have are a bunch of overachieving back ups….
and before anybody says Fletcher Cox – He is underachieving as a DE in the 3-4….He is a 4-3 DT only and may not fit….They so needed to sign Lamar Houston in Free Agency, and trade him(Cox) for another pick, or two……
I’m straight forward with my take on our defense. Wolfe I agree, better because of what he was competing with last season, he is a Quinten Mikell like player.
I would personally see if any 4-3 teams are interested in Cox. He is a great DT in 4-3 scheme, and I would pass his name on to other GM’s who are looking for a proven/young player instead of taking the chance on a college kid coming out this year.
We need more picks – We’ve got to get them from somewhere…….
I am more inclined to agree with your last scenario. I think this may be the year they are willing to jump up drastically for either WR Kelly covets….or shock us all and go after Mack or Clowney.
Remember Dion Jordan was their pick if the Dolphins wouldn’t have leap frogged them. So the notion that Chip wont go defense first is not true.
Also the one caveat that could make the multiple trade backs possible is if they have lined up a couple trade scenarios for young vets etc to help on defense. I envision a OLB trade on day 2 for a vet just like Reid went after Ryans a few years ago.
If they don’t answer the OLB position DJax’s departure will be small compared to them getting gashed on defense. Cary Williams and Bradley Fletcher had above average years last year to what was expected.
Philadelphia needs
1)Djax, Avant
2)Clifford Geathers and one year deal with Cedric Thornton
3) age with Trent Cole plus his increasing salary contract.
4) age of Herremans
5) every year every team needs cornerbacks.
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I would draft Stephon Tuitt
I think the Eagles will draft Marquis Lee.
Ealy, Hageman, Beckem, Cooks possibilities for #22.
I like all of those players, with Cook being a guy I could really like if he backs up the talk by walking the walk. I feel similar type players (minus Cook) are available in rounds 2-4.
Check out the OLB from Georgia Tech in round two. He could rotate with Cole and I see him being available when we draft at #54.
2 words….Mike Evans…That is all.
Make it happen. I said I’m done buying jerseys because I only get a few years out of them before they are traded, cut or do something to become enemy #1. I would rock a Mike Evans jersey, the kid is a stud.
I was saying it in October Jeff…I usually don’t go in for the college players but he is going to be a star.
If Houston doesn’t trade out then the whole draft is dictated on whether they select Clowney or a QB. If they go QB IMO the run on QBs begins.
Having Tampa Bay give up picks for Sammy Watkins goes against everything Lovie Smith did to build the Bears at the end of his run. There is no need for them to trade they can get Mike Evans at their pick and they also have multiple options for big WRS that Lovie covets.
Cleveland is not trading out of their spot unless Blake Bortles was the QB they were targeting. With Oakland sitting above them Manziel becomes the pressure pick for Oakland.
If Mack and Clowney are gone I don’t see the Falcons reaching for Barr(as much as I am high on him). That OL was atrocious last year and one of the tackles would fit perfectly.
I wanna see Paulman’s Mock Draft as an official article.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn Rotary,
When I see Paulman & the word “Official”, in the same sentence,
I get a little nervous..
I will do my Best to Post a Complete
2 Rounds Mock Draft as an Article on here..
I would like to seee them pick up Cody Latimer in 2nd if they can. I watched Penn State sinceI went there. He has good route running, decnt speed and very good hands. Hard worker. That’s my receiver if we can get him in the 2nd. Could be the sleeper we need.
We could draft Cody Latimer in the 3rd….
I think his stock is rising. He could be that surprise guy that gets grabbed higher than people think. I like his skill set with Kelly’s offense.
I think Latimer, and Paul Richardson should be our 2 WR Targets in the draft….which means we draft on later, and focus on the Defense in the first 3 rounds…
I see the Eagles approaching with the BPA approach. If 3 receivers are the BPA, then they will draft them. I don’t see them reaching. I like the safetuy out of Washington State. Buccannon(spg?). Him and Latimer in the 2nd would be solid if they can trade back to get another 2nd.
Gm that makes to much sense, the dumb ass eagle front office will draft Odell beck ham first round.
and he is one of those Diddy that I think will be a bust in terms of big time expectations….and really have us missing DeSean..
I’m over him not being here, but give me back that excitement from somewhere – You know what I mean?
Yeah I know Gm, people will find out soon enough it will not be able to replace Djax.
Sorry hit the post comment too soon, but Djax production will be missed
I like this Cody Latimer from Indiana, GMCliff
6-3″, 218lbs, ran a 4.38 last week at his Work Day
Has to work on his Route Running, as all Rookie Receivers
But he would be a nice pick up late in the 2nd/Early 3rd Round
I agree Paul, and as you know those players often have longer careers than the one overhyped in the first Rounds..,.
He has size, and speed. I think if you pair him with a Paul Richardson, or Martavious Bryant, and add a veteran we’ve stocked or WR core.
I don’t like his trade the point system doesn’t match up
I like the trade with 49ers with alittle snag
They give us
#30
#61
#94
Then we can do the trade with with the rams then that will give us
#38,54,61 in the 2nd rd
#77,94 in the 3rd
#104,122 in the 4th rd
I just hope they don’t pass up too much talent in the first round. I’m not saying that 3 2nd rounders can’t be really good players. I’m just saying quantity doesn’t always add up to quality. But that is some good picks though.
I try to think if we are drafting at pick #22, what players are left for us. Defense I would say is our biggest need, even with D-Jax gone, WR is deep in depth that we can go other rounds to improve in that area.
DT/DE- There will be a few guys here that could rotate with the 3 front guys we already have and are due to start.
CB/S- I see a cornerback like Fuller and the kid from TCU available. Both safeties are gone.
LB-Dee Ford… He has a quiet scariness to him, and could certainly help pressuring the QB, but is a guy like him available in round 2?
Dee Ford is garbage….
I love Kyle Fuller, but we only have one 1st Round Pick
I would pick Kyle Fuller before any receiver except Sammy Watkins but don’t be surprised if the take Christian Jones from FSU. They will not trade out of the first round.
BL….I know the Eagles (Chippah) really likes Christian Jones. I’m thinking perhaps a trade down to the end of the first or top of the second and take Deone Bucannon with the first pick, Christian Jones with the second selection, Attachou with the 2nd second round pick (from trade down) and Martaivis Bryant or Cody Latimer with the third pick. 4th pick, Pierre Desir, 5th pick, Justin Ellis, 7th pick….Aaron Colvin.
With all that being said, I would not be surprised if the Eagles take two wideouts though.
If they could pull those players out of the draft, that would be one heck of a haul, because Maclin has a one year deal I expect them to draft at least two receivers.
Give me 3 2nd Round Selections in this Draft over the #22 Pick any day..
Once getting past the #10-#12 Selection of the 1st Round –
there is little Difference in the next 40-75 Selections… Get as many Picks in this Range and you will build a nice core of Young Players who can contibute in 2014 but will compete strongly for Starters Positions well for 2015 and beyond
Jeff a 3rd round pick has less than 25% chance to develop into a starting NFL player. What you are are suggesting is statistically nuts. The name of the game is to add quality playmakers – not bodies. If we trade #22 for a 2nd and early 3rd, in THIS draft, I could see it, but otherwise it’s expensive fantasy football.
This draft I would alright with it. When we traded out of the first round the year we took Kolb, I had to take a ten minute time-out from thr room I was watching the draft in.
What I hope is that we can pull off a trade. What would make me walk away from Thursday, May 8th, fired up and ready for the first day of trainign camp?
1. Mike Evans
2. Calvin Pryor
** I would be alright with Brandin Cooks or Denard as well. If we traded back into round one and walked away with Benjamin or Lee, I would satisfied as well.
Evans or Pryor, I would hard to calm down, and placing my order for their jersey to sport this season.
I wouldn’t mind taking Robinson from psu with the 22nd pick and picking some pass rushers later on in the draft. I’m really not sold on any pass rusher except Barr and I don’t think we can get him
Robinson is a 3rd – 4th round pick – Why would you pick him in the 1st Round?
Khalil Mack is so much better than an Anthony Barr – who has only played his position for only 2 years – How are you sold on him???
gm, if we don’t trade the pick, & Barr falls to us, do you draft him? I’d think I would.
DCar, I don’t know about Cliff, but I’d snatch him up like he was my bride to be!!! Here’s a question for you guys. If Eric Ebron fell to 22, do you take him as a big bodied receiver ? Luxury pick maybe, but there’s no doubting his pass catching ability and ability to get down the seam. That would mean you have Ertz, Ebron, Celek,,,cut Casey! That’s a hell of a TE duo…I don’t think Celek will be back in 2015.
If they stay true to the BAA, Ebron will be really hard to pass up if he’s there. But I don’t know how they would spin it with all the needs they have.
No need to spin…they are masters of the silent treatment. Seriously, they would just say BPA and he adds a terrific, dynamic dimension to the receiving corps.
Funny thing. Philly.com has a cartoon of Chip kelly and Howie Roseman on milk carton with the caption of missing and Have you seen me?
I would snag Ebron. Chip would be happy to have the likes of Ertz and Ebron as weapons for his offense. He would have these two big guys beat up on the little guys. Celek is due nearly 5 million next season, and although he is a big favorite of Chip Kelly, it’s the cap hit that will probably end the Celek tenure as an Eagle, unless he is willing to take a pay cut.
Eagles, if we draft another TE high, I might commit myself! LOL! No way!
You have to DCar….but between he, and Mack…to me there is no contest..
gm, you know how much I agree with you on Mack? Dude is a beast, & in our DF, he could play inside, & outside, but, we have no shot at him.
Stranger things have happened….
Would a team like Cleveland, or Houston, be interested in Evan Mathis, Vinny Curry, Matt Barkley, and 3 future draft picks??? in 2015, 2016, and 2018???
1st Rounders
4th round pick? WOW you must be a Skins fan, no one is that STUPID!! All the experts say he is a mid 2nd at the latest and then there is you…….saying he is a 4th rounder. Glad you have NOTHING to do with the Eagles bc then we would be like the Cowgirls and Skirts.
I am the Ultimate Eagles Fan…..All the experts DO NOT say he is a 2nd Round Pick,,,You need to do your research before you criticize.
He is slow, a horrible route runner, makes plays, but his hands are inconsistent – He is a local favorite, that some locally project as a stud just because he went to Penn State – He will not be that great of a Pro regardless…..
FYI, If the Eagles had listened to me over the years, they wouldn’t be in the mess they’re in,,,and despite what you say he is a 4th Round Talent… I have no local favorites…
I also can see that you are really Eagles0Superbowls, under a new post name…..
GMCliff, I have never called you stupid. I’ve called you a dingbat and a liar though. Luke Keuchly and Russell Wilson being celebrated this season flushed your conceited ill informed head right down the toilet.
Not really because there are so many more celebrated besides them that I have personally advocated…..about 50 or more…the current success of two prospects that I didn’t like doesn’t change the opinions of those who recognize me as someone who knows what he is talking about……
However, they do look at you as being in denial – after your constant emphasis on 2 prospects out of what?……Hundreds over the last 4-5 years…..So what are you bragging about?….
I’ve recommended so many Pro Bowlers, and Rookie All Pro’s to the Eagles under Reid, and Kelly – Why should I blink an eye to 2 successful prospects that I didn’t want???????
So don’t look at me as being conceited,…..Just know, that the MAJORITY of the time……. I’m right…….and there is nothing you can do to change that in the eyes of anyone on this site……..The only lie I’ve stated on here is that I would never address you again
FYI, Your the ONLY dingbat that thinks otherwise…..Neither you, or Howie WILL EVER BE SMARTER THAN ME…….Deal with it.
May 11, 2014 —— I’ll be here to gamble again.
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I’ve smacked you around the last 2 years. It appeared as if you threw in the towel the last couple months but you are starting to type as if you want another chance to redeem yourself with this 2014 draft season. I’ll be here May 11th to gamble on draft picks again.
Redeem Myself????? From What??
You haven’t smacked anybody around.
You are really delusional, because you can’t believe what your saying. Are we talking about that challenge I accepted from you last year? I think that’s all in how you look at it.
Lame Johnson, and Zach Ertz, were the only draft picks Howie could hang his hat on – Lame, was average at best, Ertz made some nice plays, but I still don’t see anything special…..Logan filled in because they had no one else better to play the position – but he is below average…
You let the GCobb family decide –
1. Ziggy Ansah – was All Rookie1st Team, and Player of the year candidate – Not Lame Johnson – Could have traded down, and got DJ Fluker – another All Rookie 1st Team member…
2. Jamie Collins – Despite your year long heckling, was also a All Rookie 1st Team Member – Not Zach Ertz – Because he is a baller, who found his mojo, while playing for the Patriots – Would have started if he was an Eagle…..
3. Blidi Wreh Wilson – Didn’t start last year – But was drafted for the purpose of stepping in for Altuern Verner, the Tennessee Titans Pro Bowler, this year, and will be starting – There were no Pro Bowl CB’s on the Eagles for him to sit behind. He also would have started for the Eagles….
I can’t remember the rest of that list, I know there is a Safety that is also starting for the Titans this year, and Cornelius Washington will also be starting for the Bears-
But the only person who sees last years draft as better was you – and you alone –
Logan – stinks – but Howie will hold onto him to save face
Barkley – not an NFL QB – Like I said
Wolfe – is a Special Teamer Only in value
Krueger – is not an NFL Player – Cut
Poyer – Not an NFL Player – Cut
You were given a chance to give me some players that you liked before the combine – BUT WE HAD A PROBLEM, BECAUSE YOU WEREN’T FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THEIR NAMES, OR ABILITIES –
And I knew it. That’s why I cut off any suggestions before the combine – because as you are doing now, you perpetrate like you have a clue…..Stephen Truiit is your guy huh???? Make sure you stick to that, and we’ll see how much you smack me around…LOL!!!!
Who cares if you gamble….You haven’t done anything to prove your a worthy challenger yet…..Your not going to Cherry Pick names at the last minute, so you can jump on their band wagon – Why don’t you give us a mock draft of your own – Biggie asked you to do that – Why didn’t you??? I know why I just want to see if you would admit it……YOU’RE A JOKE – STEP OFF ME….
I remember some Prospects last Year that GMCliff really hit on also..
DT – Sheldon RIchardson – Jets
OT – DJ Fluker – Chargers
DT – Star Lotulelie – Panthers
WR – Keenan Allen – Chargers
Safety – Jonathon Cyprien – Jaguars
Guard – Larry Warford – Lions
LB – Sio Moore – Raiders
I was going thru some of my Draft Notes from last year and hit on some 2nd/3rd/4th Rounders who had some nice contributions their Rookie Seasons ..
DT – Kawnn Short – Panthers
LB – Kiko Alonso – BIlls
CB – Leon McFadden – Browns
WR – Keenan Allen – Chargers
RB – Giovanni Bernard – Benglas
CB – Logan Ryan – Patriots
DT – Josh Boyd – Packers
Thank You Paul….
and all with the exception of Cyprien – Who got hurt – were 1st Team All- Rookie members – Every single last one that you remembered Paul were better than any player drafted by Howie Roseman, and indirectly E0S –
The Eagles would have benefited from having these players on their roster – instead we got mediocre talent, that some hope will be as good as we claim they will be…..Our draft was poor last year…..so much talent left on the board that was better than who they drafted….
WHERE DO YOU SEE YOURSELF QUOTE UNQUOTE SMACKING ME AROUND E0S??????? – You depend on Howie, I depend on my experience, and personal eye for talent that has been consistently correct – year in, year out -………
GMCliff – are we gambling again or are you a GMchicken?
May 11, 2014, right here on this website. You lost last year. Howie smoked you. His crew played and played well. Stop with the Jamie Collins is an all rookie team performer. Be honest will yourself. You and I both know you by passed 10 plus all rookie journalist lists to find a glorified opinion of Jamie Collins all rookie team. ( he was a part time player last year of 12 out of 70 team snaps learning the position.) Zach Ertz out performed Jamie Collins with “IMPACT PLAYS” you can’t even name one Jamie Collins signature play. Do you really want to pretend you won? C’mon GMCliff lets gamble again ( May 11, 2014)
Paul, could the Eagles have used all those players that you mentioned that you remember I mocked all off-season????
And there wouldn’t be glaring holes we need to fill this year…
1. Lame Johnson – Ezekiel Ansah, or Richardson & DJ Fluker
2. Zach Ertz – Jonathan Cyprien & Jamie Collins
3. Benny Logan – Larry Warford, Sio Moore, & Keenan Allen
4. Matt Barkley – Brian Schwenke
5. Earl Wolfe – Jordan Mills & Montori Hughes
6. Joe Krueger – Cornelius Washington
7. Jordan Poyer – Damien Stafford, & Aaron Mellette
7. David King – Marcus Cooper & Ty Powell
I still say Howie doesn’t really know talent…..
What gamble?? – you’re not a challenge…..What did I lose?? It all showed in the wash – My players were better than Howie’s
Go ahead give us your Mock draft, and I will give you mine..
I don’t want Howies draft – I want YOURS – MOUTH!!
Let’s have it…..
AND yet he made the all Rookie team, and Ertz did not…..I don’t make that decision – the ones who pay more attention do……
Your the only person one here that thinks last years draft was a success……The play of the team said nothing about the talent that was drafted onto it, because we still need upgrades because of poor talent evaluation, and whiffing on better talent………
Oh, and make sure you start with Stephen Truiit……
Alright, you are accepting the challenge.
May 11, 2014 right here on this website.
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The original reason of the challenge was to prevent you from forgetting the busts you spew and replacing them with other players. Which you are trying to do now. You come up with such ridiculous fantasy trades which get you 10 picks in the first 2 rounds and then start disrespecting Howie Roseman. Ziggy Ansah, Jamie Collins and the gaggle of bust who never reached the playing surface never get the Eagles to the playoffs last year. Trent Cole had better stats than Ziggy Ansah last year and Lane Johnson was head and shoulders better than Sebastian Vollmer.
Yes they would have GMCliff,
I forgot to mention OLB Alec Ogletree from last Year who I was high on and was a late Round 1st Round (30th Overall) that had a nice Rookie Season with the Rams.
E0S – That’s enough of your whining – I have mocked Bigtime players for the Eagles for the last 6 years now like it or not….Like I said the majority that I do…I am correct on…Paul just confirmed that for you…
It’s time for you write the check with your mouth that your behind can’t cash…..Just give all of us your Mock for this year, AND I WILL GIVE YOU MINE…….Then everyone will see if you can smack me around….Write you mock, and nothing else….
Ogletree was second team All – Rookie Team
Unlike Lame, and Ertz he was at least acknowledged….
May 11th, 2014 right here GMCliff – we will use the official draft spot positions to select our team. And the 30 other players that you like to claim are not yours. You get 6 players and only 6 players in a 7 round draft. The fantasy that you chose Poe over Fletcher Cox when it was impossible days are over. You chose 8 players last year and only 2 played with 6 busts.
EOS,
How did I do last Year with my Mocks ?…
No not on May 11th – Right now!!!
Give me your mock RIGHT NOW, and we will compare it to mine during, and after the season, and ascertain who knows talent, and who doesn’t…..
Screw May 11th – you can attempt to smack me around right now with the players you are mocking for the Eagles…or are you chicken, or scared to be piledrived into the bullcrap you put yourself into…….JUST GIVE ALL OF US YOUR MOCK…
Do you guys see this???…All the garbage E0S talks on GMCliff, and now he’s looking for Howie Roseman to fight, and speak for him………Show us your knowledge, or maybe your the dingbat……
You,and I both know you can’t win, so take this ass whipping like a man, and give us your mock , because you have been asking for it for years…..
Paulman when you color in the lines and have the same restrictions as Howie Roseman here is what you came up with.
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paulman
April 30, 2013 – 10:05 am
Just to play Devil’s Advocate, The Draft could have went like this (without any Trades) though I will keep the QB Barkley move-up in the 4th Round..
1st RD (#4) OT Lane Johnson
2nd Rd (#35) DE Tank Carradine
3rd Rd (#67) CB Leon McFadden
4th Rd (#98) QB Matt Barkley
5th Rd (#136) DT Montori Hughes
Then keep the 7th Round the same except I would have grabbed the highest Guard/Center instead of DL King with the Final Pick
22) Stephon Tuitt
54) Jordan Matthews
GMCliff – you can meet me here May11th, 2014 for the official 2nd annual Mock draft challenge. mano a mano
E0S, you have 5 more rounds to go…..
I’m not going to be held to how Howie does his draft……
I want to see you personally smack me around with your knowledge of talent – Don’t start backpedalling now….
You haven’t smacked anyone. Howie Roseman picked those players last year – not you – You have done anything but run off with your mouth. So finish your mock draft, then I will give you mine – That’s Mano – emano……..Lets go chump…..
I get it your scared that you will be called on the carpet when it’s revealed you don’t know what your talking about – and you don’t want that….E0S, has to save face after all the trash talking he’s done over the years…..
If you think you can smack me around – then give me your full mock of players – This is very similar to what I challenged you to before the Combine, and I’m seeing more, and more backpedalling from you – because you know what time it is…..
If you can’t do that Then like I said before, I don’t want to hear crap out of you……..I’ll just continue to give my call on who are the players that will succeed in the NFL with Paulman, DCar, and the guys……..Don’t waste my time if your scared to be exposed…
EOS,
If I was Owner of the Eagles ,I would have to fire myself..
That list your posted of My List was after the Draft..
Show some of the Mocks I had before Draft Day last Year..
I’ll be here May 11, 2014 — I will compete with Howie Roseman and you if you desire. If you wish to hold onto a list of 20 players and scream you are so great so be it, it is meaningless. You and I both know you are useless outside the top 2 rounds and can’t find talent. You whiffed on 6 of 8 draft picks last year. If you say you are better than Howie and myself you will be here May 11, 2014. I gave 2 players last year Shariff Floyd and Larry Warford then capitulated that Howie’s draft was better than mine so I didn’t continue. You gave Howie a F grade ( you were wrong and couldn’t top his draft) I will give a full Eagle draft May 11, 2014 this year using the official draft spot value as my guidelines. I may change my selection of Stephon Tuitt and Jordan Matthews if my top 21 players fall or one of my top 53 players fall.
No…It’s not about me, and Howie…It’s about you, and I…
And you have a chance to redeem yourself by smacking me around with the knowledge that you possess….
Just give me your mock, or keep my name out of your mouth from now on – Because it is obvious you don’t really want to go head to head with me – You just want some sort of advantage that limits me drafting the way I would like, and who I feel would be better…
Howie may not see the need to move up or down – whereas I may – So I’m not concerned with Howie…I want you to prove, you’re more knowledgeable than me…….
If you can’t, or don’t want to – Then keep my name out of your mouth – Because like I told you before you’re a coward – and I don’t have time play with you, if you don’t want to put your money where your mouth is……..See me now, or don’t see me at all, and shut up….
Shariff Floyd WAS A BUST!!!,
and Larry Warford was GMCliffs mocked replacement for Mathis, or Herramanns all off-season…..You never mentioned his name –
This is exactly why I wanted you to play your hand before the Combine – You’re full of crap – All you do is act like you have a clue – after the fact…..you’re a joke…
Give me five more prospects or step off……..
bok,bok,bok,bok,bok,begowwwwk — Chicken.
May 11, 2014. Official NFL undisputed draft spot values. Not GMCliff pretending he could easily trade Brandon Graham for an extra 2nd rounder and trade the eagle first round pick for a first rounder, 2nd rounder and 3rd rounder and still draft the 15th player in the draft with his magic wand.
I may change my selection of Stephon Tuitt and Jordan Matthews if my top 21 players fall or one of my top 53 players fall….Bull!!!!
You have no idea what you’re doing, and are trying to create an opportunity for you to save face……As far as I ‘m concerned
Victor Abiramiri, and Jordan Matthews are your two top picks Coward…………..
oh we are going mano a mano May 11, 2014 – if you don’t choke on a piece of pizza or chicken wing or something.
See me now, or don’t see me at all, and shut up
and for the 3rd year in a row I’ll going to whoop your butt GMClueless
the challenge is May 11, 2014 – official draft spot value. Not GMCliff pretend value.
UH HUH……LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, you officially won’t man up right.???..
Keep my name out of you mouth. This conversation is done until you do….I don’t want to hear a word out of you until you’re ready to man up….Have a nice life chump…
HAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! When was the first time you whooped my butt….I’m actually waiting for the first time……..LOL!!!!!!!
GMCliff – May 11, 2014
Howie Roseman vs. Eagles0superbowls vs. GMCliff.
Round 1 – 22
Round 2 – 54
Round 3 – 86
Round 4 – 122
Round 5 – 162
Round 7 – 237
After all that has happened this off-season, & what has been written thus far, this is what a believe will happen. The Birds will trade Brandon Graham, Evan Mathis, & their #22 pick- Miami, for Dion Jordan, their 2nd(50) & their 5th(155). Trade Bryce Brown & 2015 6th rounder, to the Ravens for their comp pick, 5th round(175) & their 6th round(194).
2nd(50)- WR Jordan Matthews.
2nd(54)- OLB Jeremiah Attaochu.
3rd(86)- CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste(converted to safety, plays both safety/CB).
4th(122)- ILB Shayne Skov.
5th(155)- SS Ahmad Dixon.
5th(162)- OG Anthony Steen.
6th(194)- WR Brandon Coleman.
7th(237)- CB Aaron Colvin.
That’s my 2 cents. 🙂
If Dixon is gone, then S Ed Reynolds.
Sounds good Dcar.. I like WR Adams over Matthews
And remember that “Compensatory Picks”
Cannot be traded per NFL Rules.. 🙁
Oops, that’s right, forgot all of the CBA rule changes. No worries though, they have another 5th. 🙂
Gm cliff how is Robison a 3rd-4th rounder and Benjamin and lee are first rounders? He’s way better than both of them. He’s a playmaker for sure. The game tape to me shows he’s a first rounder I don’t care what nobody says. Mack for some reason reminds me of Aaron curry. It’s just too much hype on that dude right now. Id rather take barr
Robinson is graded 1-3 round, depending on who’s mocking him.
Robinson has definitely moved up the Board
To probably a Mid 2nd Rounder per many Scouts
He lacks overall deep speed, but is long, strong and physical and a good work ethic.. Could make a nice Slot/3rd WR
and is similar physically as Jason Avant but more athleticism..
No he hasn’t…He is a 3rd – 4th round pick perioid
gm, no way he lasts to the 4th. If he does, he’d be a no brainer to nab. Even if we already drafted a high WR.
I think we can get 2 in the 3rd, that are better than him…..
Because of his lack of speed amongst othet things, he will be drafted no higher than the 3rd Round, and could last to the 4th – He is not all that……
@bfdaking – I don’t think Benjamin, or Lee are legitimate 1st Rounders. I think most WR’s projected in the 1st Round are overrated…but those prospects are better than Allen Robinson – Most on here are homers that overvalue local talent…
I like Allen Robinson, but he isn’t as good as some like to paint him – He’s made plays – in college – but that doesn’t mean that translates to the NFL. I THINK YOU ARE TAKING YOUR BIAS FOR GRANTED…….
Anthony Barr has only played his position for 2 years,,,,,He can’t touch Khalil Mack period, and there is no comparison to Aaron Curry – and there is no more hype for Khalil Mack nationally, than for Allen Robinson Locally – Your being totally hypocritical, but apparently, that’s just how you feel, so I can respect that…We’ll see if your right though I doubt it….
XD
Mike Evans would be the perfect fit. Shit when was the last time the Eagles had a WR over 6’2? TO? We need a big bodied WR that can be physical over the middle, and be able to break one to the house. Maclin (extremely soft, and fragile, but excellent when healthy) Cooper (great leaping ability, but really isn’t that fast) we need a home run hitter with size, speed and toughness. His name is Mike Evans
Love Mike Evans, but are you ready to mortgage the draft on him? It’ll take a lot of fire power to move up to the top ten to get him, if he last til 10. It will be a heavy price, a price that I don’t know the Eagles can afford to pay with the flimsy six picks we have.
agreed!!!!!!!!
Size doesn’t make him a shoe in for success……
He isn’t that fast, and it remains to be seen if he can separate from NFL Corners….
Most on here look at his measurables and think he will be the savior to our WR core, and couldn’t be more wrong…….
gm, I think VJax, when I see Evans. I love the kid. Maybe we can redeem ourselves, when we re-signed DJax, instead of VJax, & draft Evans. Would love to see him fall to late teens. Would make things interesting, no?
I do not like Mike Evans at all.DCar…
If he is there at 22 Brandon cooks is the man
Graham should be traded and should be of value to a 4/3 team looking for a pass rushing DE (who isn’t). He should get a reasonable return, but alas it’s too easy for fans to overvalue our players while GMs overvalue their draft picks.
Eagles Mock Draft (Assumuing No Trade up or down)
1st – #22 – DT Ra’Sheede Hageman (Minnesota 6-6′ – 318lbs)
2nd #54 – WR Dontae Moncreif (Miss State 6-2′ – 221lbs)
3rd #86 – CB Phillip Gaines (Rice 6-0′ – 195lbs)
4th #114 – ILB Christain Jones (Florida St 6-3′ – 240lbs)
5th #150 – Strong Safety Isiah Lewis (Mich State 5-10′ – 210lbs)
7th #237 – Guard Brandon Thomas (Clemson 6-3′ – 315lbs – Injured for 2014 out with recent Knee Injury but a 2nd/3rd Round Talent who can
be groomed for 2015 and beyond)
Undrafted Free Agents that Eagles Sign
CB – Travis Carrie (Ohio University 6-0 206lbs)
TE – Colt Lyerly (Oregon 6-4 245lbs)
WR – Cody Hoffman (BYU 6-4 223lbs)
Safety – Tre Boston (UNC 6-0 204lbs)
OLB – Marquis Flowers (Arizona 6-3 235lbs)
RB/Returnman – LaDarius Perkins (Miss State 5-7 195lbs)
Kicker – Vincenzo D’Amato – (California 6-0 200lbs)
I’d prefer Cody Latimer to Dontae Moncrief as Latimer is a hands catcher, where Moncrief catches in the bread basket. I don’t think Christian Jones lasts until 114. I think the Eagles would target him no later than the 3rd.
Two receivers the Eagles can think about next year if they went defense this year. WR Jaylen Strong – Arizona and WR Sammie Coates Auburn.
I like your mock draft Paulman –I would love for the Eagles to draft exactly like your mock. I see wholes on the Eagle roster at DE and WR ( need picks). That one year unrestricted minimum salary to Cedric Thornton bothers me. A starting defensive lineman making $645,000? Something is strange about that signing, it doesn’t make any sense.
No way Paulman don’t like your first 2picks but I do like rds3&4 I still say they trade down if cooks is off the board just off the point that they don’t have a lot of picks and if they trade down and pick in the 1st rd I could see dee ford being the pick if not then I could see them trading out of the 1st….
Gloomy,
I have some real reservations on DT ra’sheede Hageman but counting on the solid young, high motor players on the Eagles DL along with their DL Coach to keep this kid focused, if so, he could be one the biggest Steals of this Draft.. If not, he will be a bust.. it’s a high risk-High Reward Pick but when I look at the DL of this Draft and specifically at DT, there is just a handful of players to seelct from.. Half the DT’s that are Rated in the TOp #10 at the Position are in 6’1″–6′-2″ Range and under 300lbs which is not what the Eagles need or want at the DT/NT Position..
Hageman is 6-6′ – 318lbs and has a frame to be 325-330lbs in two years time easily in a NFL Program.. When Focused and Hungry, Hageman is an impact player who is difficilt to block and almost like a Albert Haynesworth was when he was young… I believe the EAgles have enough leadership and good Coaching to coax this kid to be a Good DL, he has all the physical attributes to be a good player for a long time in the middle of the Eagles Defense which is sorely needed… he could rotate with Logan in year 1 and then take the Position as Starter by 2015.
Eagles trade with the 49ers
Eagles send #22 pick which holds a 780 point value
#56-340 value
#61-292 value
#94-124 value/ or #77-205 value
#100- 100 value
In my opinion the eagles biggest needs go in this order
#1- olb- without a good pass rush our bum cb’s will be show there true colors as they did last year.
#2. Cb- goes hand and hand with the pass rush and let’s be honest Cary Williams sucks as does fletcher and for the life of me I can’t understand how your best corner can’t start over Cary Williams I’m still smh regarding that..
#3. Wr- this goes without saying they need depth here after Maclin and cooper it’s nobody there and they must add speed with this depth.
#4.oline- let’s be honest here the eagles got lucky with no injuries last year to the Oline you can’t count on that every year plus Mathis,peters, Herremans are all on the wrong side of 30 and your gonna need replacements soon.
#5. Ilb- democo Ryan’s played good against the run but he really doesn’t need to be out there on padding downs and he is due like 8mill next year the eagles aren’t gonna pay him that.
#6. Dline- I don’t know what they think about cox but to me he doesn’t fit the 3-4 better suited for the 4-3 and if he has a bad year I could see them moving on Logan is better suited to play de instead of yd and Cedric Thornton is only on a 1yr deal and is only a run stopper no real pass rush skills and behind those three all you really have is vinny curry who is better suited for the 4-3 also so depth is really needed here.
#7.safety- just for depth the eagles don’t value this position and I’m with them on it don’t need superstars here just solid guys that are not gonna kill you I rather have superstar cb’s instead plus it looks like there gonna give earl Wolfe every chance to win the job look for them not to take a safety til rds 5-7….
Again in my opinion these are the eagles biggest needs in this order.
Marqise Lee is in for a vist today with the Eagles according to Jeff Mosher and csnphilly.com. My take with Lee a similar player to Maclin, and their stats during their first 2 years in college are very similar.
First 2 years
Maclin- 182 receptions/ 2315 yards/ 12.7 avg/ 22 TD
Lee- 191 receptions/ 2864/ 15.0 avg/ 25 TD
** I see Greg Jennings with Lee, a nice player with nice size who can have some big games, but never going to amount to a superstar.
Although I feel Lee is a better player coming out of college then Benjamin or Beckham, I feel both of those guys have more NFL upside due to the speed for Beckham and size of Benjamin, and would consider them in round 1 if Cooks was not there, but would hope that we could trade down a few spots and gather an additional day 2 draft pick.
Lee is more polished starting out, but he appears to be brittle and I am not sold that he can stay healthy… Almost too similar to Maclin in this regard.
He’s probably the best Route Runner, but his Size,Speed is average and he’s not a physcial Receiver as far as much downfield blocking goes..
Any one of these Rookie WR’s (outside of Watkins/Evans who will be long gone) are not going to see the field much in this 2014 Season as they learn the NFL, Kelly’s Schemes,etc,etc which is why I like a Davante Adams or Dontae Moncrief… Moncreif at 6-2 221lbs is a Physical Receiver with some speed, not a burner, but more than adequate who has great hands, a great blocker and a tough,hardnosed player that fits Kelly mold at WR.. I think he can be a 50 Recpetion, 6-8 TD’s type of Receiver who is strong in the red-zone and in the run-game by Year 2 ..
I am so glad this wasn’t written by Gcobb. This is the dumbest thing in the world. Why would the Eagles trade out of the first round. they gain nothing bro. you better stop smoking before you write… Please we trade with San Fran out of the first round. IDIOT!!!
This is one scenario, one take on a possibility that the Eagles themselves have hinted at if they feel they could gain firther picks in later rounds if their targets were off the board.
Gain nothing? Have you looked closely at the talent in rounds 2-5, and even a few names after that.
State your players you want at #22, and ask yourself if they are gone, what do you do? The mock draft gave an alternative plan to what they “could do.”
Would I love at pick #22 for Calvin Pryor to be there, yes, but I know he will not be. Cooks is moving quick up the first round like Tavon Austin did last season, so he is not there at #22. Denard is a pysical corner with a mean streak, gone by pick #22.
With only 6 picks, the Eagles would be very limited in the rest of the draft if they paired their pick #22 with their 3rd round pick and a pick in 2015 to move up into that 11-14 range.
I’d willing to that for Pryor. I’m willing to unload even more for Evans. I’m not sure the Eagles plan on that or what they are planning. They are hush-hush about everything they do, and I’ll be fine with that if the guys they draft produce and they “win.”
Jeff, we only have 6 picks as it is. It would be stupid, & irresponsible to trade alot to move up. If we only have to give up #22 + our 3rd, fine, but no more than that. To move up from #22 to late teens, wouldn’t cost more than that. Anymore is asinine.
I like that idea too Jeff. Trade down and get a player they like, and pick up an additional pick. That would be ideal
Biggest Eagles Needs in My Opinion
1) NT/DT — Have to be stronger up the Middle, No depth behind Logan..
2) OLB/Pass Rusher – Eagles need to get their Sack Total up from 37 Last Season to the 50’s.. They need to generate more Pressure on QB’s
3) Strong Safety — Be stronger up the Middle, on the Back End
4) WR — Add 2 WR’s to groom for Future, 1 a big Target & 1 a Speedster
5) OL — Add Depth to Compete for Both Herremand & Mathis spots
6) CB — Add a CB to groom and compete with Williams, Fletcher &Carroll
Paulman, Eagles should sign Ryan Pickett to a one year deal. There are some big boys 340+ in the draft, but getting Pickett who played in the 3-4 would allow us to not dedicate one of our only 6 picks to a NT.
Pressure was in spirts last season, and when yoru secondary is put in a position to not give up big plays by the scheme and they are nothing special across the board minus Boykin and we don’t know how Jenkins will play out, we need pressure. I like some OLB’s in round 2/3 as much as a Dee Ford in round 1.
SS- Move up for Pryor or get Bucanon. The guys after those two have such a drop off in talent, size and hard hitting ability.
WR- We may go big and bigger, with one of the two having top end speed. We do need 2 wr’s out of this draft.
OL- We actually have some guys who were on the practice aquad last year, or signed after the season ended that I feel could step in if needed.
CB- Get the kid from Oklohoma in rd 4 or find that athletic freak from a smaller school that falls, but would have been selected in round 1 or 2 if he went to a bigger school.
I am not sure that Ryan Pickett would pass or survive the conditioning that’s required by Chip Kelly.. he wants to get bigger across that DL, but Picket’s weight is a concern to me about how productive he can be .. As a Rotational Player, sure, but what kind of Contract would he require…
Pickett might have a stroke halfway through mini’s! Dudes a sow! LOL!
I rather have 3 to 4 Selections in that #35 – #75 Range then the 2 Picks at #22 & $54 that the Eagles have now… It’s not even close..
You can get 4 Solid Players as opposed to only 2 by trading down from #22 to the 2nd Round ..
There are only a handful of Real Playmakers in this Draft
(Clowney, Mack, Watkins, and maybe OT Robinson & CB Gilbert) and these Players will all be gone by the 10th Pick
The rest is a Solid Draft of Players will need a year or two to develop
so why not have 5-6 Selections in Rouds # 2 thru #4 instead of 3
paul since when, are OT’s playmakers??? SMH…
Since the Eagles Selected Lame, I mean Lane Johnson…
Go ask GMCliff if you don’t beleive me…
On a Semi-Serious Note, I should have used the work “Impact” instead of
Playmaker.. but you get the jis of what I mean… OT Robinson is a Stude at LT and will be a dominant LT for whoever selected him and in today’s pass-happy NFL, protecting these $100 Million QB’s is critical to a long-term success of that Qb and that Franchise.. Loko at the falcons, they went cheal las Off-Season and let their LT (Clabo) walk, and QB Matt Ryan’s nickname went from “Matty Ice” to “Pick-up Matty’s Ass from the Turf again” in 1 Season…. LT’s are a Premium as we Eagles fans know all too well, just look 2 Years ago when Peters went down and the Fiasco that ensued at LT.. Demetress Bell, King Dunlap, etc,etc
LOL!! That’s right Paul….
But that is only in reference to OT Greg Robinson – There is nothing Impact about Lame Johnson…..
As far as OLB Position goes
Do remember the Eagles have Kruger, free-Agnet signee Braman and even Phillip Hunt and McCoy all returning to compete at OLB so Postion may not be as weak as many claim it to be or as the Eagles brass believe it to be
There is liitle doubt that there is currently, very little depth along the DL and especially at DT..You cannot go into the Season with Logan/Sqaure as your DT Tandem, just not big or strong enough..
I’m praying Pryor is gone before #22 that way I don’t have hear all y’all crying when they pass on him……
Paulman will answer your Prayers Gloomy
Steelers at #15 – Select Safety Calvin Pryor
Cowboys at #16 – Select Safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
Ravens at #17 – Select LB CJ Mosley
I like the Cowboys per my prediction to move up to get Ha Ha, but agree with the placement of both first round safeties and where Mosely ends up.
F^#@ the Cowchicks! Who gives a crap what they do????
I don’t beleive the Cowboys have to move Up at all for Safety Dix..
At #16 is right about where most have him projected to go..
4 – 11:26 am
Eagles trade with the 49ers
Eagles send #22 pick which holds a 780 point value
#56-340 value
#61-292 value
#94-124 value/ or #77-205 value
#100- 100 value
This is the trade I want them to make and they should make
gloomy, you think we are going to get 4 picks for #22? Are you snorting bath salts again? Stop with your ridiculous, unrealistic, trades! You’re one of those guys who wanted to trade Kim Batiste, for Barry Bonds! My God! SMH….
So the 49ers end up with Eagles #22 and keep their own #30 Pick too
Yup the the eagles have
3picks In the 2nd & 3picks in the 3rd
3picks in the 2nd & 2picks in the 3rd and 2 in the 4th
Either or the first or the second one
I know the 49ers have a Tone Of Draft Picks this Years for probably a few open Roster SPots so they may be up for making a deal like that …
Long-Term this would be a great move for the Eagles..
Benjamin from Florida State has this feeling of “David Boston” to me. I have “zero” to go off of to make such a comparison, but I don’t think he is worthy of our pick at #22 if the other guys are gone.
Cooks reminds me of a cross between Steve Smith and Tedd Ginn Jr, more of a compliment to having an established set of WR’s.
Beckham Jr. gives me the feel of a Victor Cruz.
I like them, but I don’t wish to simply “draft” them because D-Jax is gone.
The Rams like good defensive depth at their front line position. Would Vinny Curry, our pick at #22 and a 5th round pick in 2015 be enough to get us to pick #13 and get our safety?
Haven’t seen enough of Cooks but know he’s super fast. Saw Benjamin every week will be dominant in the NFL, David Boston was a roid raging lunatic so I don’t know where that comparison came from. Beckham is Avant with speed will catch anything close. The most pro ready is Lee but he’s always hurt and I hate USC. LOL
It’s good that you have that insight. I’m not a big USC guy myself, and Mike Patterson never living up to the first round pick will keep me from being able to trust the talent that comes from there. Too bad that Chip loves the USC talent, good chance he likes Lee more then us.
The David Boston comparison merely is based on the 240 lbs, although not close to the same player or built. If the kid can ball, and maybe have the Alshon Jeffrey like game to him, the Eagles coould certainly use him.
Cooks is rising quick, teams that may not have thought about drafting a WR are even talking about the kid.
It was much easier when the thought was to ass a WR somehere in the draft incase Maclin was only going to be here for the 1 year, we had D-Jax, etc.
The reason why I think WR twice in the first four rounds is because we don’t about how healthy Maclin will be, and a knee injury worries me, especially when the guy is a WR, making quick moves, hard cuts, if he were to do down and it’s Cooper and a bunch of rookies with a sprinkle of Brad Smith and Jeff Maehl…. McCiy will end up with 400+ touches this year.
******************ADD a WR, a typo that I can’t take back, yeah…my bad.
I agree with that Jeff, they’ll probably take two.
I think the Eagles draft is going to be shaped by a couple different questions this current roster poses.
1. Was Desean’s production a perfect blend of skillset and scheme, Desean being targeted and blossoming, or Kelly’s system just so difficult to defend by most teams outside of the Elite teams in the NFC.
2. Is Brandon Boykins a starting CB or the best slot CB in the game.
3. Is Fletcher Cox a stud….or Broderick Bunkley.
4. Maclin’s knee. (IMO he was the most consistent WR on the team and the better overall player than DJax coming into last year. The best slot WR on the team as well. Now has a rubber band for a knee.)
5. Chip Kelly ran a dominant run game. Does he get rid of Herremans and Mathis. Can you have a rookie G and 2nd year T together on the right side?
1. Desean- a bit of everything you included.
2. Boykin could start in this league. He is similar with his size to Ronde Barber, Bucs finally moved him to starter because he was just that good, hopefully Eagles do the same.
3. Cox is a great 4-3 player, I don’t see him a natural fit for 3-4, even with another season in that scheme. He has value, maybe he could be used to help us to fill another arae of need and we can get a more natural 3-4 guy in the draft.
4. Maclin- I have had nightmares already that Maclin’s knee pops in the pre-season. I hope the kid stays healthy, second time to the same knee and I think Kelly could do wonders with Maclin.
5. The 5 players who were on our o-line last year will be the same 5 for 2014. I can’t predict after that, but with Foles going into his first year as a full time starter and already taking D-Jax out of what he had last year as his surrounding weapons, the Eagles will not change the o-line as well.
People forget David Boston was an absolute monster when he first was on the scene…however that monster consumed him and so did the mirror. Fell in love with the roids…and color contacts lmao.
I’m now in favor of them trading down
********** trade alert***********
Eagles send #22 to the
49ers for #s 56,61,77 & 94
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Hey Dcar they called me crazy when I told them the eagles don’t value safety and there not gonna sign Byrd or ward, they called me crazy when I told them mesean would be gone also. So I’ll take you calling me crazy for this trade but add up the point value it adds up look at it.
You add it dunce!
Eagles send #22 pick which holds a 780 point value
#56-340 value
#61-292 value
#94-124 value/ or #77-205 value
#100- 100 value
That’s 856, or 937, opposed to 780. Not happening, bruh! Nobody is trading 4 high round picks, for a low #1. SF ain’t desperate for anyone, especially that time of the 1st round! Stop the nonsense. You had the Eagles trading DJax for multiple picks, including a 1st rounder. GTFO with your buffoonery!
Dcar u will see
The 49ers don’t have enough roster spots for all those picks and there two biggest needs are wr, cb if they make that trade with eagles they can grab both in the 1st rd and they still would have two 3rd picks as well as picks in rds 5-7 It just makes to much sense for both teams.
***Original Trade Alert*****
1) Eagle’s Trade #22 Pick to Cleveland Browns so they can secure QB Derek Carr, the Eagles get the Browns #26 PIck, that they got from the Colts in the Trent Richardson Robbery of last Year and their 3rd Round PIck (#68th Pick)
and a 5th Round in 2015
2) Eagle’s then Trade the #26 PIck to the Colts for their 2nd Rounder (#58)
and their 4th Rounder (#122nd) and a 3rd Rounder in 2015
Eagles now have the Following
1st Rd – No Picks
2nd Rd – #54 & #58 (OLB J Attachou & Safety D Buchannon)
3rd Rd – #68 & #86 (WR Jordan Matthews 6-3 215lbs & CB Phillip Gaines)
4th Rd – #118 & #122 (Guard Trai Tuner LSU 6-3 305lbs & LB Christian Jones)
5th Rd – #150 ( DT Caruan Reid – Princeton 6-2 305lbs)
7th Rd – #214 ( WR/Returnman John Brown – Pittsburgh St 5-10 180lbs)
Plus an additional 3rd & 4th Round Picks in the 2015 Draft
This is how you build a Championship Roster with Depth, Competition and Players
Paulman, this is good stuff. The trade ideas are realistic and the player names are some that I have written down. I go into the draft with my sheet of names, positions and rounds I think they will be drafted. I’d like to know players we draft in round 1- round 7.
Keep up the good work, all it would take would be a minor trade or free agent signing from now until the draft to switch up the projections. I get the feeling Howie & company may just be up to something……
This John Brown in the 7th Round is a real sleeper and runs a 4.34 40 Time
He’s a little on the small side, but can fly and returns Kicks/Punts and could be a 5th/6th WR who comes in to Run a few Deep Routes/Reverses, a Game as he learns teh NFL/Route Running, etc,etc
I also like DT Caruan Reid from Princeton, a real high motor, smart and a Physical Player, even though he played at Princeton, could make a nice Rotational Player along with Bennie Logan at DT
I would love a stud at NT, DE, OLB, S. The problem I feel we are going to face is the Eagles current situation. With the $ that Cole is raking in, he is going to start. With where Graham and Curry were drafted, they are going to be part of the mix. With Wolff having trust from the coacching staff, he will get every opportunity to start. With the addition of Carroll at CB, we now have 4 deep at that position.
We need rotation/situational guys, and replacement guys in 1-2 years based on position. I think if we landed Pryor or Bucanon, they are the starter sooner then later in 2014.
OLB, DE, DT/NT, CB- unless a player is moved from our current roster, there are no “starting spots” open. Per Chip, all spots are open, open competition, but projecting what we have, I see rookies more of role players then starters for atleast this season. Come 2015, Cole, Ryans, Fletcher, Allen, Williams could all be gone. I feel Cox will be traded at some point as well.
Offense- WR, TE, G, QB. It’s either going to be Foles for years to come, or 2015 Chip will get his guy. Barkley or Sanchez will not be the future of this team.
WR- This is the year to stock up on the cream of the crop young talent. Every type in every round.
G-This will be the last season for Hermanns. I see Mathis with this team for many more seasons to come, even with his request for more $.
TE- Last season for Celek unless he takes a big cut. For all we know James Casey ends up playing like Chris Cooley this season and he is part of the mix this season as real contributor. (I’m not counting on it).
There are a few TE’s in this years draft, including one that played under Chip. There are actually a good bit of offensive/defensive pieces out there from Oregon at WR, TE, RB, D-line and CB. I would have to think that it’s a reunion for one of them come draft day with their old coach.
FOR ALL YOU KAEPERNICK SLURPERS
Sources tell TMZ that Colin Kaepernick is being investigated for a possible sexual assault at a hotel in Miami.
Per TMZ, the alleged incident took place at the Viceroy Hotel earlier this month. The investigation is at its beginning stages and no charges have been filed against Kaepernick or anyone else. “The 49ers organization is aware of the recent media report regarding Colin Kaepernick and is in the process of gathering the pertinent facts,” read a statement from GM Trent Baalke.
Source: TMZ.com
Apr 10 – 12:32 PM
I wonder if Big Ben was the get-a-way driver…..
Damn all you have to do is be investigated and you get lumped in with Big Ben. LOL these dudes can find some trouble.
Wasn’t Ben only investigated?
Hell if I know, henski find a link and read what he’s being investigated for its a complete load of crap. Bad judgement but a load of crap. If I were the Niners I’d be more concerned about the mention of a weed bong in the report.
That and to try and reach him for comment, they found him out in another club ‘early Sunday am’.
I get a speeding ticket, and I drive a little slower, at least for a while.
Map gets told he’s being investigated (prob at some late night thing) and he’s still out rolling at 3:00am….thats bad judgment.
But hey, whatever, I’m just glad the Birds now have a QB that I won’t be seeing on tmz for the next decade.
LOL
JUST GET AN ESCORT….DAMN THESE ATHLETES ARE DUMB.
That’s just the 49ers ‘leaking’ unsubstantiated rumors on order to lower his value in contract negotiations. Just like the Eagles.
funny stuff.
Haaaaa
It is funny, because it’s completely ridiculous. No team would diminish the value of one of their assets with stupid rumors.
Yet this is exactly what some clowns on here believe.
You can’t make this shit up!
Exactly just like Jason Whitlock said….NJ.Com literally took any ability to try and get a box of donuts for DeSean and threw it out the window.
Idiots on here want to say otherwise. Hell even DeSean wanted to get ahead of the story.
In his interview he said he heard about the impending story before it came out from the agent….around the same time he personally is tweeting “TALKED TO BIG CHIP….BIRD GANG…”
Then he comes out and says the only time he talked to Chip Chip told him “Peace in the middle east…”
Little homie was on damage control early and he knew he blew it.
I heard that flashed gang signs after they dropped her off at the hospital. SMDH.
Rumor has it he was finishing up his new single with D-Jax record company, and the backround singers were and still maybe in gangs around the SF area.
I heard Justin Beiber is making a cameo on the mixed tape version.
In lieu of the above News about potential Trouble for 49ers & Kaepernick
Eagles Trade #22 Pick to the 49ers for their #30th and their 3rd Rd (#77) & 4th Rd (129th) Picks
Eagles Trade Guard Evan Mathis to the Dolphins for their #3rd Round PIck (#83 Overall)
Eagles Trade DE Brandon Graham to Falcons for a 4th Round Pick (#102)
Eagles Trade TE James Casey to the NY Jets for a 6th Round PIck (#178)
49ers at #22 Select QB Derek Carr (before the Browns do, who have #26)
Eagles end up with the Following Draft Selectiosn after these Trades
1st Rd (#30) – Guard Xavier Sua’-Filo (UCLA 6-3 315lbs)
2nd Rd (#54) – DE Kareem Martin (UNC 6-6 270lbs)
3rd Rd (#77) – DT Da’Quan JOnes (Penn State 6-3 322lbs)
3rd Rd (#83) – CB Stanley Baptisite (Nebraska 6-3 218lbs)
3rd Rd (#86) – WR Jarvis Landry (LSU 6-0 205lbs)
4th Rd (#102) – CB Jaylen Watkins (Florida 6-0 195lbs)
4th Rd (#118) – LB CHristian Jones (Fla State 6-2 240lbs)
4th Rd (#129) – TE Arthur Lynch (Georgia 6-5 260lbs)
5th Rd (#150) – Safety Ahmad Dixon (Baylor 6-0 212lbs)
6th Rd (#178) – OL Matt Patchan (Boston College 6-6 305lbs)
7th Rd (#214) – WR/Returnman John Brown (Pittsburgh State 5-10 180lbs)
I see 1st Selection Guard Sua’-Filo as a Day 1 Starter at RG and Shift Herremans back to Left Guard and Compete with Alan Barbree for Starters spot..
DL Picks Martin & Jones will provide Quality Depth in 2014 and Play on a Rotational Basis and then Compete by 2015 for Starters time
CB’s Baptisite and Watkins are the Future CB’s for the Eagles along with Slot CB Boynkin come 2015 along with Nolan Carroll in the mix as the Eagles build a strong and Young Secondary for the future
WR Jarvis Landry is a Slot WR, both Faster & more Athletic than Avant ever was and is tough & plays very physical.. He would be a great 3rd WR and complement Maclin & Cooper realy well
WR/Returnman John Brown is my Star of Summer Camp.. Can handle Kick-off/Punt Return Duties and can fly at 4.34 40 Time.. As a WR, he would be used 10-12 Snaps a game on used on Deep Routes, End Arounds,Bubble Screens, etc,etc and replace’s Danarius Johnson who has had 2 Years of Opportunuities and has failed to capitalize on his chances.. This Brown is stronger/tougher than you think at 5-10 180lbs
TE Lynch from Georgia would be a steal here in the 4th Round, Big, Physical, Can Block and Run and at 6-5 260lbs, would be a nice targer to add to Ertz and would be groomed for Celek’s Replacement as the “in-line” TE by 2016
Strong Safety Ahmad Dixon would be another Summer Surprise as he’s a very physcial player, hard-hitting and would compete for the Strong Safety Position with Chris Maragos to start 2014 and play Special Teams like a mad-man..
OL Matt Patchan from Boston College is versatile and has played both Guard & OT in Boston College who has learned under one of the best OL Coach’s in all of College Football and a nice Depth Pick here to learn both the RG & RT Positions as a quality back-up
LB Christian Jones would compete with Nagel Goode as the top Back-up to ILB’s Ryans & Kendricks and also contribute on Special Teams..
been gone for a minute gcobbers what is going on…..my mock draft I have eagles selecting b cooks in 1st then in 2nd trade with Miami for Jordan and they get graham also, then 3rd round baptiste, and again in the 3rd we trade curry and a fourth round pick to a 4 3 needy team and get Martavious Bryant. In the fourth rd we then package our 5th rounder and Bryce brown and select john urschel OG from penn state….athletic lineman like a evan mathis type. In the 7th round the eagles select colt lyria from Oregon and ends up the steal of the draft for the eagles and replaces casey as he becomes trade bait after colt has a huge camp
Martavious Bryant is a project WR, that will be over drafted based on measurables, not skill…..
Bryant reminds me a bit of Stepehen Hill of the Jets
Who flew up the Draft Board a couple years back after a great Indy Combine.. Has size and speed, but still doesn’t run Routes well
Nor does he catch the ball consistently enough to be counted on
There are many more WR’s who are more advanced than Bryant
In this Draft.. If Bryant is on Board on 4th Rd,
Then I would think of selecting him, but not in the Top 3 Rounds (100 Players or so) too many others in this Draft that can help
This year & 2015.. Bryant will need time to develop
Paulman, Christian Jones would start by week 1.
I have to disagree Biggie…..I just don’t think he is athletic, or skilled enough to be a successful pro…..I do think he would be an excellent special team player though…..
Here one from me Paul……
1. Kony Ealy
2a. Deone Buchannon
2b. Jeremiah Attoachu
3a Gabe Jackson
3b. Cody Latimere
3c. Paul Richardson
4a. Pierre Desir/ Phillip Gaines
4b. Daniel McCullers
4c. Justin Ellis
5. Walt Aikens
6. Andrew Jackson
7. Ethan Westbrooks
Like it GMCliff
We’ve pretty much been in agreement
This year as far as Prospects go..
I like Ealy’s game, just not sold on him
Playing the 3-4..
I’ve listed DE Kareem Martin a few times who I like as a Pass-Rusher
From the edge or even from the DT spot and at 6-6″-272lbs has the size/length that Kelky/Davis are looking for
This Martin got moved from DR to DT back to De with the Tar Heels and thru 2 Coachibg changes & systems and I believe could be the great Pass-Rusher to be developed.. Reminds me of a young Greg Hardy/Julius Peppers type when he’s focused.,
the eagles just don’t value the safety position and will make due with Jenkins,allen,wollf,maragold, and carroll getting some snaps also
Dion Jordan – DL – Dolphins
According to the Delaware County Times, the Eagles “made an offer” for Dolphins DE/OLB Dion Jordan earlier this offseason.
Reporter Bob Grotz’s report is via a “respected NFL source.” Per Grotz, the Eagles were “said to have included” Brandon Graham and a second-round pick. It’s not surprising that wasn’t enough for a player who was the No. 3 overall pick of last year’s draft. It’s also not surprising Chip Kelly is (reportedly) interested in reuniting with a player he coached at Oregon. Jordan would be a strong fit for Kelly’s attacking 3-4 defense, but he’ll almost certainly remain in Miami.
Related: Eagles
Source: Delaware County Times Apr 10 – 5:26 PM
I think that would be a big mistake Big Mhenski…He was a bust last year. I know he could improve, but he is light in the pants for an OLB, that has trouble getting off blocks – He had 2 sacks, and 19 tackles in total for last year…..Do you really want to give up a future #1, or our #22 for him…
I would offer a 3, or 4….no more no less….
gm, I told you guys 2 months ago, that my Brother told me about the trade rumor. Eagles offered Graham, & #22, for Jordan, & their #50, & lower pick. I don’t like Jordan too much, but I’d do it in a heart beat. Graham is a non-fit, & a bust here, & we ain’t getting an impact pass rusher at #22. Jordan was played out of position in Miami, at 4-3 DE, & WILL LB, as a backup, in the beginning of the year, while he was still recovering from his off-season surgery. I think he has the athleticism, & body, to get better, bigger, & stronger. Graham blows, & needs to go. If we can get Jordan, #50+, for #22, & Graham, that would be a steal in my book. We can then have our pick of good players at #50, & #54(Jeremiah Attaochu, Davate Adams, Jordan Matthews, Donte Moncrief, Kareem Martin, Gabe Jackson, Deone Bucannon, Trent Murphy).
DCar, I see no reason to give them my 1st round pick this year, for a bust 1st round pick from last year….I don’t care about Graham – I said they could have traded him while his value was high last year…I laugh at Howie’s stupid reasoning holding on to him
They would be giving them too much, and Kelly, is assuming his guy can duplicate what he did in college, on a regular basis in the NFL, WHICH HE ALSO HASN’T DONE……Big Mistake…
If they want him, I wouldn’t give them anything higher than a conditional 4th rounder…..And why are they trading him in the fist place??????????
gm,I wasn’t crazy about Jordan either, & I understand your conviction in your beliefs, but I don’t think a player, that played out of position in his rookie season, after recovering from off-season surgery, can be considered a bust. It’s a little too early to state that. If we can get him, Miami’s 2nd & 5th, for Graham, & #22, the deal has to be made. Unless someone unexpected falls to #22, all of the studs might be gone anyways. This draft is deep with good players, with high upside, & ability, except at pass rushers for the 3-4.
BTW, we ain’t getting him for a 4th, & they want him gone, because he was a reach pick, from the prior failed regime, & he doesn’t fit a 4-3 DF.
I though Miami ran a 3-4 as well….
but I don’t think a player, that played out of position in his rookie season, after recovering from off-season surgery, can be considered a bust..
I agree, I didn’t mean in terms of his career, but the expectations going into his rookie year bruh…
I think it will happen on draft day that’s what Howie does the big player for player trades/draft picks….the dolphins will cave
I do agree with gloomy if cooks isn’t there at 22 the eagles trade down for more picks
I should have trademarked Lame Johnson lol Eagles will continue to try and be smarter than everybody else in the draft. Im not giving up on Lane bc he does show some talent and ability to compete but there are players year in and year out that are obvious choices that fill holes sitting on the board and we ignore. Everybody wanted Honey Badger when he was justa sitting there nope. Burfit is now an all pro was just sitting there and I know other teams passed too but we had a need at the position nope. I liked Poe to play NT nope many people on here called him a workout warrior. last year I thought there were O-lineman to be had up and down the first rd and we could have traded back than be forced to take Lane Johnson 3rd nope. Star Lotulelei? nope. The last two years have been better with the later picks I like Boykins and Kendricks but overall the draft is always an adventure. If we don’t go after top end defensive talent I will be highly disappointed.
NuGreenbol, I’ve always said you are one of the smartest guys on here. It’s obvious you have paid attention through the years…
GMCliff has mocked all of those bypassed talents to the Eagles: Poe, Burfict, Star, Richardson, Ansah, and many many others, who have gone on to have great seasons, and Pro Bowl years…
NuGreenbol, they need pass rush, and can a receiver In the later rounds…
I have recommended Kony Ealy, AND Jeremiah Attoachu. They can trade back a little and still get Ealy, and an extra pick in the 2nd to get Attoachu, and Deone Buchannon…….Then grab your WR’s – Plural – in the 3rd
yeah this year I’m not up on as many of the draft picks I fell off as far as college players. All I know is we need top end talent on that side hopefully OLB that can be a difference maker. I liked Dee Ford but people was killing me bc he is not that big. I get that and all but he seems like the exception to the rule like a Bruce Irving and Dummerville. He played at a top school against the best and still did his thing. Maybe we will just let Pitt get him a wreak havoc for the next 7 years lol. I don’t think we can worry about wr as much if the guy is not gonna be an impact player I would rather get an additional CB and Line help
AHHH!! I have to agree with them about Dee Ford Buddy. But that doesn’t mean the Eagles still won’t draft him. He, and Dion Jordan are similar in their skill sets – which is why they probably like both of them…
I feel Dee Ford isn’t worth drafting at all. I think he is a glorified collge player that will be a bust in the NFL, because he is too small, and limited in competing with NFL professionals…..
If you can get your hands on Jordan without giving up more then 1 pick do it in a heartbeat. The nonsense about calling him a bust is just that nonsense. The kid could barely get on the field and that wasn’t because he couldnt play and had more to do with the fact that they kid they drafted from Miami Olivier turned into an absolute monster. With Cameron Wake on the other side who are you realistically taking him off the field for? The Dolphins didn’t truly know what they had in Olivier that was their only mistake. Unless they thought he could be a 4-3 LB then they are idiots.
Keeping with the discussion of Jordan and the Dolphins, would this trade be of interest to the Eagles and to the fan base.
Eagles trade DT Fletcher Cox and a 2015 4th round selection to the Miami Dolhins for OLB Dion Jordan.
The Dolphins are now playing a 4-3 base defense and have weak depth at the defensive tackle position. I really like Fletcher, but see him as a more natural 4-3 fit.
The Eagles could draft “beef” 3-4 technique players in the draft. There is a kid from Oregon that could do the things Kiesel did for the Steelers for many years. Tough kid who does not show up on the stat sheet but can take on multiple blockers with his effort.
Add McCullers to rotate with Logan and we have some size brewing on that front line.
Thoughts??
No way you give up Cox yet.
I would not trade for Dion Jordan at all Jeff….
The guy had 2 sacks, and 19 tackles in total all of last season…..Trade for him…for what???
You have to hold on to Cox, until he absolutely gives us no choice to move him. He would be more effective as a 4-3 DT – Because that is what he is –
They really needed to heavily pursue Lamarr Houston, so that they could trade Cox for some draft picks – I like him, but he doesn’t fit anymore, and is playing out of position – which really doesn’t help us in our front 7 pass rush….
Off base on the 2 sacks. Do you sit him down over Vernier and Wake? You’re just looking at numbers and forgetting big picture. Dolphins did not think Vernier was special after a 3.5 sack year. Then he exploded and made Jordan a luxury.
and probably another reason that the former GM Jeff Ireland is out of a Job in Miami…
Good logic IJ…but why would they trade their #1 pick from last year the next year….if that’s the case?
Holding onto him again if he is not a centerpiece on your DL just lowers his value anymore. Another year as a backup and hes basically their version of Brandon Graham only drafted 12 spots higher. 2nd round value for a guy that doesnt fit or you may be right is a mistake is better than 4t-5th round value this time again next year. You only keep him if you are see yourself cutting bait with Cameron Wake and you are definitely going to inject him more on the DL.
Draft former Center Larry Webster’s son from Bloomsburg in the 5th/6th Round … Larry Webster Jr is listed as a DE at 6-6 252lbs, and is long and rangy and built a lot like Aldon Smith/Whitney Mercilus/Michael JOhnson and has the athleticism to play OLB, standing up and can be moved around..
He will need Coaching up and definitely needs to get stonger and has the frame to put on 10-15lbs easily…
He would be a real gem in the later Rounds but will need time to develop
Webster played 4 Years of College Basketball but only 2 Seasons of Football so he is raw, but has a lot of upside if he gets with the right Team and Coaching… watch the Patriots Select him…
He has been working out with teams as a TE Paul……..He has forgone playing Defense in the NFL……Just an update
Maybe the 76ers should Draft him too.. 🙂
He’s a freakish Athlete, similar to Dion Jordan, but as we both know too well, there is a big difference between being a “Great Athlete” and being a “Good Football Player”
I am goign to get my Agent Card back activated and will represent Webster and show him around as a DE so he can make his Big $$$ and me my solid comissions …
HA…GO AHEAD BIG MAN!!!!
Its the league trend to be bigger stronger. The Seahawks dared the league to call Pass Interference last year and it damn near was technique with them manhandling guys. The entire league is going that route right now. You have to get bigger on the outside and use your speed underneath and out of the backfield.
2 TE set in the redzone with Cooper and Benjamin/Evans on the outside would be fun. Or even jumbo package with with 1TE an extra lineman or 2 TE extra OL and Benjamin/Evans….lol im going crazy right now.
Todd McShay has the Eagles taking Marqise Lee at 22.
He now has Dix going no.10 but doesn’t have Pryor going til about 20 with the Cardinals.
Every WR with size he has going in the top 10. Benjamin and Lattimer.
He has the Pats taking Nix and he has the Seahawks taking the G from UCLA.
Also has Barr Ford and Ealy all going in the 2nd round.
Something’s going on behind the scenes with OLB/DE Barr,
He was a Top 10 Pick in January, then a mid to late 1st Round just last month, now he’s dropping into the 2nd Round..
He must be having bad workouts with the various Team around the Leauge for most of the Draft Geeks to have him slide some 20/30 Spots down in such a short period of time.. I have not read any I jury of off the field issues,
Maybe his attitude, lack of strength, poor pass-coverage skills, etc
I think because hes the lone true 3-4 OLB that will be out of the top 10 hes just a victim of months of time before the draft and teams poking more and more holes in him.
Kiper and other mocks have him the first.
McShay always tries to buck the trend and go for broke. He has Lattimer in the first and ive seen mocks that have Latimer going in the 2nd and in some the 3rd.
Also he has the Eagles reaching ala Jarrett for a safety in the 2nd and taking the kid from FSU since Buchanon and Ward will be off the board in the top of the 2nd.
We at times take these so-called experts, for granted brothers – All they do is give their personal projections, and or opinions on how they see the draft unfolding………..and those projections are generally wrong by the time the reality of draft results is revealed…….and have been wrong for years………
I wouldn’t sweat what they say….
IJ, it keeps looking like the wisest thing to do is to trade down this year if all that talent is going to drop into the second……
There are some coveted prospects mocked toward the end of the 1st between #20 -#32 – that may play into the Eagles hands – But I don’t think Howie is smart enough to do it, or at least do it right…….
They have to continue to move down in each round, to get what they need out of this draft…
If Auburn doesn’t win the SEC & NCAA Championship Games last year,
Dee Ford is a 3rd-4th Round Pick..
I think he’s a 1 year Flash wonder and would stay away
If Anthony Barr is at 22 you take him. Even if all he can do year 1 is situational pass rush.