What is the role of a nose tackle in a 3-4 defense? Answer; this is a position in the center of the defensive line primarily responsible for disrupting the center of the offensive line.
McCullers “fits” the mold for what Eagles fans envision as a true nose tackle. He is an efficient run stuffer and forces offenses to expend two blockers to him. He creates space for the linebackers to makes plays.
Depending on what source you look at his sheer measurements, McCullers is listed as anywhere from 6’6” to 6”8 and tips the scale at over 350 pounds. At that size, McCullers is bigger than the offensive lineman at the NFL level.
His film would show that he is more than pure size. He has enough mobility to make plays, shed blocks and occasionally get after the quarterback. The overall stat sheet is not going to jump out at you.
Typically this position is not one that is going to show up on that stat sheet. It’s a non-glorified role on the defense. McCullers showed at Tennessee that he gladly accepts doing the dirty work. He is a kid that knows he is big, has film that proves he can be dominant. There are the scouts who say he is still very raw and that his height is going to affect his ability to play out of the proper stance.
McCullers is slated to be drafted somewhere in that late third to early fourth round range. His name has been discussed by the Eagle fan base; however I don’t envision the Eagles tampering with the idea to draft him.
Last season the Eagles knew Sopoaga was a one year stop-gap. There was a need to find the big man in the middle of the defense in the draft. The Eagles elected to take an undersized player in Bennie Logan out of LSU in the third round.
The Eagles liked his “athletic” ability. Logan is not a “true” nose tackle.
John Jenkins who was selected by the Saints and Brandon Williams by the Ravens later in the third round are guys the Eagles could have drafted.
Logan has the look of a defensive tackle in 4-3 set. Overall he did a nice last season, and the coaching staff is confident that he is going to add some “bulk” to his frame and will build on his rookie season success.
Personally, I like Logan being used in different roles on the defensive line, but he is not a true nose tackle.
The sheer size of McCullers is something I would love for the Eagles, but nose tackle is not a position I have graded as a “need” in the third or fourth round.
There are some other nose tackles in the draft. Knowing that the Eagles spent a high third round draft pick last year on this position, I can see them looking to add depth in the seventh round or signing a guy after the draft is over.
Bryan Jones out of Arkansas is a name that I think fits the mold for what Chip likes from his nose tackle. He will go undrafted, and could provide rotational depth behind Logan and allow the Eagles to focus on other areas of need. He is 6’2” and weight in at 315 pounds. He is the athletic DT/NT tweener.
7th Round/Undrafted
Zack Kerr (Delaware)
Ryan Carrethers (Arkansas State)
Beau Allen (Wisconsin))
Ricky Havili-Heimuli (Oregon)
McCullers is slated to be drafted somewhere in that late third to early fourth round range. His name has been discussed by the Eagle fan base; however I don’t envision the Eagles tampering with the idea to draft him……..
Although they “NEED” a true NT……That’s like having 7 boxes of cereal, and not considering going to the store to get Milk……..That’s Howie…………….
What Bennie Logan lacks in size he has with “beard.” He was on csnphilly with Boykin rocking the Flyers jerseys, he is a big dude, but we need a monster in the middle.
The only way I would see McCullers coming to Philly is if we trade out of rd 1 and get additional picks. Top 3 rounds need to be WR, either CB/S and an OLB.
Issue with safety…. Eagles like Wolff a lot, probably more then us. He has similar size to Bucanon who I would want in rd 2, but he will be drafted before we make our selection. Both Pryor and rd 1 and Bucannon in rd 2 will go before we make our pick.
We are going to need a starter at CB for 2015. We could wait and draft a cb in either rd 4 or 5, I would prefer that…depth this year, or reserve a guy like Colvin from Oklahoma who may need majority of season to rehab.
Cole will be gone in 2015, probably Ryans as well. We need an edge rushing OLB and a big kid with the ILB.
I think there is going to be more trades made in this draft with both actual picks and veteran players then any draft in NFL history.
Colvin is not going to anything either…….I see him in a lot of mock on here, and don’t understand what they see in him….I’m sure there is an answer, but I think it’s just a name some are familiar with that won’t be a good pro..
If I’m howie I would seriously consider trading Fletcher cox he just doesn’t fit the 3-4 he is a 4-3 dt. I’ve had McCullers in all my mock drafts if you trade cox and slide Logan over to de which he is also better suited to play it would make the whole dline better. But yeah they have the think about getting rid of cox if he has a year next year like he had this past year his trade value is really gonna go down and they won’t get nothing for him so cut the cord while his value is still somewhat high…
You keep Cox around until see what you have after a year in the system. Logan can serve a Jay Ratliff type role on the line and he will play well againstt passing teams and struggle against run teams. He a solid NT to have in the rotation. Very few 3\4 NT are 3 down players. A true outside pass rush would help just as much
Cox doesn’t fit period in a 3-4 you need your dline to be big space eaters and run stuffers to free up your lbs cox is a 4-3 dt I hope he proves me wrong but his whole life he has been a 4-3 dt to ask him to change now is a lot he will never be jj watt.
I disagree. You won’t know if Cox doesn’t fit until this year. He showed flashes last year his lack of consistency was his biggest problem. Again it’s hard to evaluate the DL because you got virtually no pass rush from the Olb position. The 3-4 is about what you can bring from the edges and confusion.
It’s no pass rush cause the dline is to small and don’t occupy the Oline to free up the lbs they should’ve traded up that draft and took dontari Poe instead of cox. And then last year took Sheldon Richardson.
Disagree. As good as Dontari Poe is look at how that DLine fell apart once they get hurt on the edges. They got virtually no pass rush and that includes Poe. The Saints ran b the ball down our throats and the Colts aired out the Chiefs because of lack of pass rush. IMO lack of edge rush kills a 3-4 defense.
The chiefs lost cause there secondary sucks and Poe is a space eater did the colts run the ball on them at all no. You can’t tell me this line wouldn’t be better with those 2.
Their secondary sucks because Luck was standing in the pocket with ease. Lol their secondary didn’t suck went it had their DL intact and came town and locked us up.
Their DL had almost 25 sacks by week 7 between Poe Hali Houston and had a TOTAL of 4 the rest of the year. Once Houston got hurt they got nothing from their DL.
Their secondary was exploited. It wasn’t their main problem. Lack of pass rush in 3-4 gets your defense destroyed.
Of course we need a space eater I don’t disagree with but you can rotate guys like that. This team needs pass rush. It’s the no.1 priority. Not safety not cb etc.
I have a man crush on Evans lol but I would everything I could to get Barr or mortgage two drafts to get in the top 5
Lol your crazy with your man crush but I know I know we need pass rush but if we had Poe in the saints game drew brees wouldn’t have run those qb sneaks like 5x’s. And I think they really want a big fast guy that can block they no it cost to much to get in the top 10 so in starting to think Cody latimer might be the pick he is the next best wr in the draft that fits the mold of what they want size/speed combo that can block and is strong.
Hate to bring this up on this tread but I would hate to be a Clipper today especially Doc Rivers and Chris Paul, after this post season I would never play for the Clippers as long as Sterling was the owner, he is what happens when you allow a racist to continue to go unchecked. BTW I think his half latino half black girlfriend is a POS for recording the argument and then giving it to TMZ.
Cliven Bundy is now a fan of the Clippers given Sterlings opinion. I disagree with you Big as far as the girlfriend is concerned. He needed to be exposed and she did it. One of the former players said Sterling was racist and people blew him off. The girlfriend…who is hot by the way just enlightened the public. As my dear great grandmother who lived to be 105 years of age used to say “What you do in the dark will soon come to light”!
Big you’re on the money. She knew he was a racist…. She just got mad at her sugar daddy. Hypocrite trash
Yep Izell she could’ve taken that recording to the league office but her gold digging nature kicked in and she sold it to TMZ.
Everyone is dumping on Logan, bc last year he was “undersized”. He was 309lbs last year, so if gains 6-7 lbs and gets stronger how can you say he is undersized? Name a player who got smaller and weaker after a year in the league. Players typically gain muscle weight, which means he will be stronger. Just bc someone is 330 lbs doesn’t mean a thing if he can’t move and get off of blocks. I understand getting a heavy DT to add to the rotation but there is no need to draft one early or even one to be a starter.
All I see on this site is…..how every player the Eagles has “sucks”, how there isn’t a player worth drafting outside the Top 5 so need to draft anyone, and how DJMe was the greatest player ever and now the Eagles are the worst team in NFL history. You guys/ladies are a trip. A REAL fan supports their team no matter what and in the off-season says the team is the best ever even if they know its not true. But you bunch of gloomy haters aren’t supportive at all. SMH. Makes the true Eagles fans embarrassed to be associated with you’s. You guys/ladies can’t name 1 single team that is perfect and unbeatable, so get a clue and support the Birds or go to DC or Dallas.
I think Logan will be fine. Not a McCullers fan because of a lack of consistency. I agree with you IJ on your point about size, it’s important but it doesn’t mean the player is going to be great. Look at Clifton Geathers, he could block out the sun with his size but can’t play.
Okay every player is the bestest and every move they make us the greatest lets bring back Juan Castillo back to coach the defense and let’s draft anybody at 22 because once they hit the field they’ll be the best player in the draft. LOL too funny. One bad word and you can no longer be a Eagle fan you guys got that!!!!!
I never said they haven’t made mistakes BUT you guys/ladies say they have done NOTHING right. They have some players not so good but for every one of them they have a very good player. You guys/ladies bash EVERY single player on the team.
The info on the team is….horrible QB, no WR’s or TE’s, OL is old and sucks, and they have ZERO players on Def. I’m sure if I look hard enough you people have said Shady sucks somewhere.
I root for everybody on the team including Matt Barkley who’s a stiff by the way. LOL, but some of these moves and non moves are head scratchers.
But especially for the former superstar and mesean. You put a little extra effort into the rooting for those guys.
Pot meet kettle, you shouldn’t be commenting on anything since your the ultimate Eagle hater unless your last name is Foles, Cooper or Ertz. Shouldn’t you be watching the Scottish Rugby league where everybody looks and acts the same? Or better yet the Bruins are playing tonight you fraud.
I don’t care what the name on the back is unless they stink.
You on the other hand spend half your life defending showboating never win anything types.
But whatever floats your boat.
Btw the Bruins are marching to the cup again despite trading away ‘super talented Seguin because he wouldn’t buy in.
Wtf do you mean buy everyone looks the same shit for brains? You should leave your neighborhood once in a while. Learn something about the world outside of you block.
Sure you do Vinnie sure you do, this is rich you telling me to see the world when you make the ridiculous comments you do, hey you should be happy the Bruins won their series yesterday why so bitter? I must have struck a nerve you fraud. Just for kicks what have all the great character all about team guys won for the Eagles? I’ll wait more ridiculous crap from you.
Is that your girl telling us all how to be “REAL FANS”?
Real fans type their own comments.
Supportive fans yes…Stepford fans no. Blind loyalty is no good for any team or fan. If an organization is making a bad move, they should hear about it from their fans….by the same token, this team played well last year and deserves some benefit of a doubt that they have a plan in mind and will execute the plan.
I think Logan would be good at de avg at dt all the great nose tackles I’ve ever seen or known have all Been 330+.
Here are a few Pro Bowl caliber DT’s that aren’t 330lbs
Atkins-303lbs
Suh-307lbs
Dockett-290lbs
Lotuleli-315lbs
330lbs is just a number. There are alot of “fatty’s” that aren’t good. Cody for example.
I said nose tackle suh and Atkins play in a 4-3 dockettt has played in both and also has pass rush skills that Logan doesn’t and I think Campbell plays the nose for them now. And lotuleli also plays in a 4-3 not a 3-4 scheme. Logan is to small.
Ted Washington 330+
Tony siragusa 370
Vince wilfork-350
Pat Williams- 340
Dontari Poe -350
Sam Adams 350
I can keep going
Williams was in a 4-3, Poe had 1 ok year, and the others are decent but not great players. None of them put up great numbers. I can find more DT’s that are under 330, that are better then that list. Logan does what he needs to do. A 330lb+ guy would be a waste of a roster spot.
If Johnny Manziel fell Aaron Rodgers style…. Would you take him at 22?(Bayless tweet)
Absolutely not, if I am Eagles,
I would entertain Trade Offers though…
It could happen. Been saying it for a long time. Birds could carry 4-5 QBs on the roster..Dont be shocked if it happens.. I also mentioned Jordan Lynch as a possibility in later rounds if they dont go Manziel..
Has the draft happened yet?
People on here going to be pissed when they drop down a couple spots then draft Zach Martin or trade down one more time and grab Xavier Su’a-Filo at the bottom of the first.
Roseanne Barr was like 440lbs.. Wasn’t she..
Good Grief.. Chip Kelly does not go for excessively Overweight Players..
Don’t get me wrong, He likes them big, but they have to be athletic and versatile…
Eagle fans and the Eagles are smarter than everyone else. They contend that in a 3-4 you don’t need a big NT. What the hell does the Patriots, Ravens and teams like GB(Jolly) know? What have they ever won? Barney Rubble and the the all knowing Eagles can draft a 306 pound NT because they have reinvented football. They were 10th against the run last year because they were 50th vs the pass and nobody needed to run against them. You think Minn and NO had a good run game wait until Lynch and Gore shove it down there throats.
So what you are saying is that a fat NT makes a team a SB team? The Patriots, who haven’t won a SB since 2005, win bc of a great offense not their defense. Same goes for GB. Balt is the only team that has won bc of their defense that you listed, and that whole defense was good. A truly good 3-4 defense, the DT’s don’t put up much in the way of numbers. Look at last years NE team. Wilfork went down for the season and they STILL made the playoffs. Logan will be over 310 this year and with 1 year experience he’ll be better.
Strength and technique make a good NT. If all a DT had to do was be fat, the NFL would just look for fatties and put a helmet and pads on them. I can make the argument that if the QB isn’t 6’4″ he isn’t any good. But Russell Wilson proved that wrong. So being 330lbs doesn’t make you a great DT.
Don’t get me wrong, if the Eagles got a 330lbs DT that was good I’d be happy but just to get someone 330lbs+ bc he is that big isn’t needed.
Maybe your right Iggles. Maybe the Eagles are the 1st team that can run the 3-4 with a tiny NT. The article your posting under and the rest of the football world are probably wrong in thinking the Eagles need a true NT. Those big fat guys on other teams that run the 3-4 are useless and get winded.
Look up the top prospect DT’s and NT’s for this years draft. Any projected for the 1st 3 rounds….only 1 is over 330lbs. Nix at 331lbs. So where are the Eagles going to get a fat NT or DT from that isn’t a wasted pick?
Vikings run game vs the Eagles 35 carries 85 yards 4 td’s. Good td numbers, but only 1 td came up the middle. So Minny didn’t tear the Birds up.
The Saints beat the hell out of the Birds by running. Maybe a 330lb’er helps maybe not. fat dudes get winded faster, trust me I’m 270lbs lol.
Lmao that last line was awesome
Timeout the Vikings run game did AP play in that lol.
It doesn’t matter if he did or not. daggolden mentioned the Minny game so I posted the numbers.
Oh ok
Keep Rolling Smalllion.
I actually appreciate the way you dismiss the thoughts of others. It fits your ‘small’ vision of the world.
You immediately dismiss the thoughts of someone who is a coach at a very high level, because, hey, its rugby….so it can’t possibly have any bearing on anything else can it? Especially not anything American.
A couple weeks back I seem to remember you touting some conversation with an Arean League player. Did I rip you on that? Of course not. I actually thought it was good to hear that you had actually left your house and talked to someone. Expand your horizons a bit.
But I see you’re back in the basement. Back to where the entirity of your universe is a 4 block neighbourhood. Back to your ‘small’ vision of the world, where racism is a black/white American construct, where any comments about a guy’s immature behaviour is clearly ‘racist’, where the comments of a coach who works at a national level are irrelevant because its a different sport, and where teams actually win with players who don’t play hard (Mesean).
4 block fantasy world.
LOL, don’t get bitter old boy. You want to bring up some of your ridiculous posts? I travel more in the course of one month then you do in the course of a year. Maybe you need to get out of Scotland to see how the real world works. You admire guys like Donald Sterling right?
Driving your delivery van around the neighborhood isn’t ‘travelling’.
LOL had to laugh out loud on that one.
I would like to see us trade Cox for Dion Jordan, I think it would benefit both teams plus we wouldn’t have to give up much more.
I’ve been saying trade cox you can find a 3-4 de anywhere they mainly only have to good against the run and be space eaters if they can rush the passer it’s a bonus. If they did that trade cox for Jordan it would be a win win for both teams neither player fits the scheme they are in.
In other news. It is being reported that Magic Johnson is looking to put a team together to purchase the L.A. Clippers. If Magic is not wanted at the games…he will buy the team and set things right. I wonder how the supreme court who just ruled on Michigan feel about Donald Sterling….discrimination still exist.
EHL the big issue I have with all of this is this guy has been on public record for years talking like this, When I say you have to stand for sometthing or nothing at all, I would have never played coached or been affiliated with the Clippers in any way as a African American, this didn’t happen overnight.
This situation will be resolved today or tomorrow. Sterling is gone, has no chance to remain owner. He’s an outright racist. He said all those things but claims not to be a racist?! That sounds familiar (this site)..
Yea I heard early this morning about Magic and his group providing a way out for Sterling by buying him out for the team. Its going to happen swiftly. Now I’m waiting for a announcement from Commissioner Silver saying Sterliing is suspended indefinitely and is barred from all games league wide, and this will allow Magic and the rest of his group to make the change and take over the Clippers..
But what terrible, disgusting, appalling comments from a owner who seems to think that he’s a “slave owner”.. Garbage..
I love his it’s just the way it is response to his girlfriend. I agree JH he’ll be gone by the start of the next basketball season.
I wonder what type of relationship they have cause I was watching the game last nite and they said his wife was at the game I didn’t understand it she was cool with him having a girlfriend wow lol
Gloomy…with all the $ he has, yeah, the wife is ok with it.
He said “I give them food,clothes, cars,housing” what a piece of trash. He thinks he’s a “slave owner”..
Donald Sterling wants Black people to “stay in their place”.. you can make money for me and I respect what you do but dont hang around me, dont take photos with me, dont think you’re on my level just make me money and I ll give you food, clothes, cars and housing..
Their will be a ruling on this racist retarded jackass today or definitely by tomorrow…
And his wife is just as despicable. She knows he has a mistress yet she stays with him because of the money (the billionaire world is wacky).. its the norm for them, the men have mistresses and the wives cheat too but its all playing out in the public.. despicable..
JH, yes, the ball court is the plantation. He is a despicable individual who has no place in this business. He should be dropped off in the middle of a KKK cross burning ceremony so they could let him know who he is and what they think about him.
I am really appreciating your expression of hurt, and disgust JH….
There are good people in every race….and All I see is the human race.
God Bless you Brother…..
I would like to know how much money Sterling paid off the NAACP for a lifetime achievement award in 2009 and then the one they were planning to give him in May…just shows that people and their feelings can be bought when you have a billion dollars to give them.
It will be interesting to see what happens with this. Fact is you cant force an Owner to sell his team. The league and the commissioner cant do shit about him unless they give him an offer he cant refuse. The only way this guy is gone is if he either somehow grows a conscience and decides to do it himself (don’t see that happening) or if the players and and coaches don’t show up (which they decided not to do). Throwing your practice jersey in the middle of the court did absolutely nothing.
Personally I would love to see this asshole trade the Sixers talents like Griffen and Chris Paul for nothing because they actually took a stand and refused to play for the guy. We def will have the cap space for some stud players
It will take a little longer than that JH..
No Doubt that Owner Sterling is a scumbag and will lose control and association of the Team, but we are talking about a $400-$500 Million Franchise that just can’t change hands in 72 Hours.. Lots of negoitiations will have to take place.. The NBA may have to purchase it from him initially just to get him out of the Picture, but if he sells the Team, he is not going to sell it for way below Market Value because of the bad press…
I agree with you.
It’s been rumored that 49ers are offering the Texans
Their #1, their #2 & 3rd Round Picks in 2014 Draft
Along with their 1st Rounder & 3rd Rounder in 2015
Along with RB K Hunter to the Houston Texans 1st Pick in the Draft to take
DE J Clowney..
They will then Release troubled DE Aldon Smith
Don’t know how true that is but the texans would be dumb as hell to do that to move from 1to 30 and Kendall hunter lol they need to much.
With 5 Picks from the 49ers, The Texans who need a lot of Players would be foolish not to take this Deal.. They would get the Following Picks from 49ers
(#30th,#56th & #77) and 2 PIcks in the 2015 Draft (1st Rounder and 3rd Rounder)
The Texans in 2014 would then have in the first 3 Rounds of Draft
#30 (from 49ers) –
#33 (their Own) –
#56 (from 49ers) –
#65 (their own)
#77 (from 49ers)
Not a bad way to re-build a Team for New HC Bill O’Brien
That’s 5 Players in almost the Top #75
That would be a great trade for the Texans.
2 1st rounders, a 2nd and two 3rds?
You can get 3 quality starters out of those 5 picks, and that’s always better than 1 guy. (esp if that pick is not a QB).
I rather have Mack over clowney hell if they move up that far they might be better off taking Watkins.
When your talking about trading the #1 pick it’s a must that you go by the trade chart and even they traded there first 5picks there still like 1800pts short even if they give up a 1st &3rd next year it still won’t equal those points due to the 49ers will be picking late in the 1st rd again. I have atl trading with the texans.
*********trade alert*******
Eagles send evan Mathis & fletcher cox to the
Dolphins for dion Jordan and there 3rd pick #81
The eagles then select the following players if they don’t trade back.
#22-Cody Latimer*, WR, Indiana
Height: 6-2. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.58.
Projected Round (2014): 3-4.
#54-Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State
Height: 6-1. Weight: 211.
40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
#81-Daniel McCullers, DT, Tennessee
Height: 6-7. Weight: 352.
Projected 40 Time: 5.54.
Projected Round (2014): 3-4.
#86-Christian Jones, OLB/ILB, Florida State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 240.
40 Time: 4.74.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
#122-Brent Urban, DT, Virginia
Height: 6-7. Weight: 295.
Projected 40 Time: 4.90.
Projected Round (2014): 3-4.
#162-E.J. Gaines, CB, Missouri
Height: 5-10. Weight: 190.
Projected 40 Time: 4.59.
Projected Round (2014): 3-5.
#237-Brandon Thomas, OT/G, Clemson
Height: 6-3. Weight: 316.
40 Time: 5.09.
Projected Round (2014): 3-4.
What is everyone’s infatuation with Dolphins Dion Jordan..
The guy’s played like 15 Games over his last 3 Seasons of competitive football…
He’s athletic, no doubt, yes he played for Chip Kelly, but what has he done
on the Football Field consistently for anyone to Trade a former 1st Round Pick in Fletcher Cox who plays every game and an All-Pro Guard in Evan Mathis…
I just don’t see much in Dion Jordan outside of a rotational Pass-Rusher
Agree you don’t give up a first or Fletcher Cox. However disagree that all he is a situational pass rusher. If anything he fell into the Brandon Graham hole that they drafted him and they didn’t have anywhere to really put him. The Dolphins are actually quite loaded at DE. Their second year DE took a huge leap last year (Ventrier) and you can’t put Jordan at OLB in 4-3.
Izzell, when you get a chance read Kempski’s article on replacing Deseans’s explosive plays. 30.3 percent of the points they scored last year Jackson had a reception of over 20 yards and on every reception he had over 20 yards that led to a scoring attempt. He was second in explosive plays behind only Josh Gordon, this is what many fans have been screaming about here not if he was a 1 or 2.
Ok there are other ways to score you don’t have to go down the field in big chunks all the time ertz will have a bigger role and sproles will do damage also and Maclin is no slouch plus they still have the draft and I bet a lot of those numbers are miss leading he got over half of his yards with Vick at qb Vick only looked for him where foles looked for everybody.
No kidding Gloomy, and we’re talking about the entire year not just when Vick or Foles was the QB, now the offense has to be effecient and not as explosive which by the way will probably help the defense but if they cannot sustain long drives or convert on 3rd down, everyone will be crying about the lack of explosive plays. Thats’s why you’ll see a wideout drafted before a defensive player in my opinion.
What difference does it make as long as the points get scored. We’re not talking about style points. Fact is, now we have to use a pick on a position that was not a position of need, which takes away from other areas on the defense.
Yeah Big I always read Kempski. He doesn’t homer it out or rail on the team.
I don’t disagree on the explosiveness on the offense. However although it sounds weird one of the problems with this offense last year was that although we could score quickly we also couldnt grind out drives or drain the clock at times. We got lucky in a few games that because we were a quick strike offense we kept teams in games. The Arizona game was a prime example of that. We got through that by the skin of our teeth.
Also thats how Reids offenses were close to the end and I am not a fan of the long ball the major weapon in your offense. It can easily be taken away and when it is it tends to throw the entire offense out of wack.
That’s why I said actually a more balanced offense my help the defense as long as they sustain drives score points at the end of those drives it will help. The pressure is squarely on the coach and the QB because they will catch all the heat of this offense bogs down.
Yeah I am not a big fan of the quick strike shootout offense. Granted you need to be able to beat people over the top especially when they starting creeping up the LOS etc however there were multiple games last year that the quick strike killed the ability to sustain drives at the end of games.
We will see. I am fine with growing pains in the early part of the season with this offense as long as by the end of the year its a balanced attack that can put the foot on the neck of teams when we get up. You can’t go into year 2 with an offense that struggles to sustain leads going into the 4th quarter because its still trying to operate as if its the 1st qtr etc.
Thats why I look at the season last year double sided. We could have easily been 8-8 7-9. Lions and Arizona games were GIFTS/LUCK IMO.
Now all of the bullshit about DJax has a problem as been dismissed and refuted by Chip Kelly himself and we assess this on pure football terms…the decision is simply ridiculous!
A conditional pick stipulation would be the best trade for him. I wouldnt mortgage the farm for him. However I don’t think hes a bust already. Dolphins are a joke in what they did in the draft and free agency the last couple of years.
The question that howie would have to ask himself is there an olb in the draft outside of Mack and Barr that is rated higher on there board that’s better than dion Jordan.
It may not have been a position of need but they were gonna take a wr weather he was here or not in the 1st rd that’s where the value is.
After Djax and Maclin our WR core was horrendous last year. Although Avant did a good job blocking he gave nothing in the passing game and he left tons of plays on the field out of the slot.
How can you honestly say that WR Riley Cooper didn’t have a big year last Season.. 47 Catches for almost 835 Yards (almost a 18 Yard a Reception average) with 8 TD’s and 13 Receptions over 20 + Yards..
What I am missing when it comes to Production, the funny thing is, that Cooper had most of these receptions,yards & TD’s once FOles became the Starter so his Stats are like over a 10-11 Game Persiodfor the most part…
I meant Cooper Paulman….
Cooper’s value and play went up with Foles for one reason and one reason only. He put the ball in places that Vick wouldn’t and couldn’t. Hell I almost cried when we ran back shoulder routes last year. When we was the last time you saw McNabb or Vick be able to accurately throw those type of breadbox passes?
Got it, thought you meant Cooper but had to check..
Paulman…those numbers are bloated and very deceptive…Defenses- as Malcolm Jenkins informs of what the Saints actually did and game planned against the Eagles-focused on Shady and DJax which big openings that Cooper was able to take advantage of against weak competition. Cooper when matched up against good corners had extreme difficulty beating one on one coverage.
Lets face it…Cooper and Maclin doesn’t scare good defenses at all! We better hope that Zach Ertz becomes Jason Witten next year…or Foles is in big trouble. Maclin is overrated and soft. He is not a tough receiver who will take hits across the middle, he is not as fast as Jackson, his hands are not as good…he does not scare defenses…
Chip just spoke and said the release of desean Jackson was a pure football decision which means the following of why he got cut.
1.he doesn’t run good routes
2.he doesn’t block
3.he quits on plays
4.he is to small and gets taken out of games
5.he only cares about himself.
Damn homie you read into that big time.
I just basically took it as heres the status quo blah blah blah next question.
Damn Djax sucks.
Let’s look at it this way Gloomy, my offense isn’t predicated on one guy I’m a genuis I can take big lion, paulman and Izell and use them to score points and won’t have to pay them 10 million dollars. Did I mention I’m a genuis. LMAO
I am availalbe for $6 Million per Season Biggy…
My specialty is the “Stop N Go Route” to the corner of the end-zone…
Hahaha, I hear you paulman I’ll take half of that just to block a safety after all Chip likes his receivers to block. Am I right?
Can you Play LG for Evan Mathis..
You will have Peters onone side nd Center Kelce on the other..
Well Chip just spoke and the release of DJax was a pure ‘football’ decision indeed which really means the following:
1. The Eagles didn’t want to spend the money
2. The Eagles didn’t want to spend the money
3. DJax made too much money
4. DJax production earned the money but the Eagles didn’t want to spend it
5. no personality problems between Djax and Coaches…all nonsense denied by Kelly, teammates rebuked the locker room issues, the article Kelly says didn’t say DJax did anything wrong….it came down to $$$$$$$$
6. The Eagles have a set rate they want to pay and didn’t want to spend it on DJax
Lol
Is the NFL draft ever going to come? waiting around for this thing to happen in May is annoying. Hope the long wait is worth it and we get Pryor as our new safety.
Pryor and Safety not happening early in this Draft Pheags
I Just for the life of me don’t saw why people want Pryor is he Dawkins in his prime or Eric berry or Ronnie Lott or is it that people want a safety do bad they can’t see that we need pass rush more than that.
Smitty, when the guys hitch their wagon to a prospect, you can’t tell them anything. Pass Rush, is the most glaring need, but Safety is what some crave, and rightly so, but although you can get a Deone Buchannon in the 2-3, their heart is set on Pryor……..
My thing is, I wonder if he is as advertised, or just a glorified College Player. I hear many say he is a hard hitter, and can do so much…I say we’ll see. At some point, he is going to have to play, and live up to all these expectations. If he doesn’t some will really have to go back to the drawing board of what they consider to be a top notch prospect…….
I’m leery of Calvin Pryor – Reminds me a lot of Roy Williams(Oklahoma/Dallas) Hard hitter, that can’t cover a lick and was exposed in the NFL, because he wasn’t asked to cover as much outside of a zone in College – and was exposed by NFL QB’s
LOL everyone hitches their wagon to certain college players they like. its no different, Its whats football fans do. Everything you just said pretty much applies to every college player coming out. Everyone single one of them will have to live up to expectations based upon where they are drafted.
I would love a pass rush. However, you have to realize where we are picking in he draft. The pass rushers I like will likely be gone by the 20s.
There are 4-5 Pass Rushers in this Draft
And probably only 2 or 3 that are NFL Ready
(Clowney, Mack and perhaps Barr)
Others like Ealy,Attachou, Ford & others will need to get bigger, stronger and adjust to the NFL Game & Competition
This Draft is not going to solve the Eagles lack of a consistent
Pass-Rush
Ealy doesn’t have to get bigger, 6-4 274 or faster at 4.57 40, but will have to make adjustments to his game in the NFL, I agree….
and don’t sleep on DeMarcus Lawrence….
I don’t like Dee Ford a little bit………
There are more Pheags, after the 22nd pick, into the 2nd Round…..
Eagles 2015 Mock Draft (Version #49)
-Eagles Trade Down from #22 to #26 with the Cleveland Browns and get their 2nd 3rd Round PIck (#83 Overall) for sliding back 4 Spots
-Eagles Trade OLB Brandon Graham to the SF 49ers for one of their 4th Round Picks (#129 Overall)
-Eagles Trade RB Bryce Brown to the Titans for their 6th Rd Pick (186th)
Eagles then Draft the Following
Rd 1 (#26) – WR Cody Latimer (Indiana 6-3″ – 215lbs)
Rd 2 (#54) – DT Da’Quan Jones (Penn State 6-4″ – 325lbs)
Rd 3 (#83) – OLB Trevor Reilly (Utah 6-5″ – 245lbs)
Rd 3 (#86) – CB Jaylen Watkins (Florida 6-0′ – 195lbs)
Rd 4 (#122) – DE Taylor Hart (Oregon 6-6″ – 281lbs)
Rd 4 (#129) – TE Crokett Gilmore (Colorado St 6-6″ – 260lbs)
Rd 5 (#162) – Guard Wesley Johnson (Vanderbilt 6-5″ – 300lbs)
Rd 6 (#186) – Safety Dontae Johnson (NC State 6-2″ – 200lbs)
Rd 7 (#237) – WR Mike Davis (Texas 6-0″ – 200lbs)
Undrafted Free-Agent Signings after the Draft
ILB – Andrew Jackson (Western Ky 6-1 – 254lbs)
DT – Ryan Carrethers (Arkansas St 6-1 – 337lbs)
WR – Quincy Enunwa (Stanford 6-2 – 225lbs)
TE – Colt Lyerla (Oregon 6-4 – 245lbs)
QB – Taj Boyd (Clemson 6-2 – 225lbs)
RB/Returnman – Ladarius Perkins (Miss State 5-8 195lbs)
CB – Brandon Dixon (Nortwest Missouri St 6-0 200lbs)
OLB – Tyler Starr (Wyoming 6-4 – 250lbs)
Kicker – Jeff Budzien (Northwestern 5-10 – 185lbs)
McCoy to be released soon.lol.
McCoy needs to shut up. Even I acknowledge that.
From PFT
Eagles running back LeSean McCoy routinely offers up plenty of interesting sound bites. On Monday, he provided a couple of them.
According to Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post, McCoy weighed in on both of the NFL’s New York teams, the Giants and the Jets.
As to the Giants, McCoy was unfazed by the offseason additions. “I’m not paying attention to the Giants,” he said. “What’ve they done? Signed some guys. Big deal.”
As to the Jets, McCoy is ready to declare a winner of the team’s quarterback competition between Geno Smith and Mike Vick.
“He’s going to be the Jets’ starting quarterback,” McCoy said of Vick. “He’s way better than Geno Smith. Way better. That’s no contest.”
McCoy also believes Vick would still be the starter in Philly if he hadn’t gotten injured last year. McCoy misses the fact that Vick gets injured pretty much every year. Last year, his replacement, Nick Foles, was good enough to keep Vick on the bench after he healed.
This year, the ultimate question for Vick will be whether, once he’s inevitably injured, Smith will be able to play well enough to claim the job.
Lets release McCoy now lol
I guarantee this. If teams start stacking the box and McCoy isn’t getting his yards and this passing offense isn’t clicking I think its safe to say McCoy isn’t going to keep quiet.
He’s gone after this season that’s for sure.
No smart team in the league is paying a RB $10 million (McCoy’s 2015 base). Plus his “dead money” number drops significantly after this coming season to $3,000,000 making him easier to dump.
The consistently dumb comments he makes will only make it easier. Way to throw your starting QB under the bus saying the old guy is better.
They’re going to run him into the ground this season and toss him aside.
Should we add RB to the Eagles’ draft this year?
Yep he doesn’t fit the mold of the Boston Bruin…what am I talking about. LOL, you guys are late to the party? He won’t be here unless he restructures period, dumb comments or not.
He’s going to be complaining when Sproles and Polk get carries from him.. He’s gone after 2014 as Kelly one by one gets rids of the whiners
And selfish players ..
I like the trades and that’s about it.
I will include this mock with Paulmans trades except I also have them trading cox to pats for #29 pick
#26-Cody Latimer*, WR, Indiana
Height: 6-2. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.58.
Projected Round (2014): 3-4.
#29-Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame
Height: 6-2. Weight: 331.
40 Time: 5.42.
Projected Round (2014): 1-2.
#54-Kareem Martin, DE, North Carolina
Height: 6-6. Weight: 272.
40 Time: 4.72.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
#83-Dontae Johnson, CB, N.C. State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 200.
40 Time: 4.45.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
#86-Christian Jones, OLB/ILB, Florida State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 240.
40 Time: 4.74.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
#122-Dri Archer, WR/RB, Kent State
Height: 5-8. Weight: 173.
40 Time: 4.26.
Projected Round (2014): 3-5.
#129-Will Clarke, DE, West Virginia
Height: 6-6. Weight: 271.
40 Time: 4.77.
Projected Round (2014): 3-5.
#162-Brandon Thomas, OT/G, Clemson
Height: 6-3. Weight: 316.
40 Time: 5.09.
Projected Round (2014): 3-4.
#186-Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma
Height: 5-11. Weight: 177.
Projected 40 Time: 4.50.
Projected Round (2014): 4-6.
#237-Colt Lyerla*, TE, Oregon
Height: 6-4. Weight: 242.
Projected 40 Time: 4.61.
Projected Round (2014): 6-FA.
No way Pats give up their 1st Rounder for Cox..
McCoy is the last of the Kelly cleanse, Vick, Jackson then McCoy
Doesn’t make sense Kelly brought Vick back when many thought Vick was gone and Paulman every mock I’ve seen have the pats taking a dt so why wouldn’t they take cox over one of these rookies when they are in win now mode.
The Question remains, why would they take Cox and his $2.5 Million Salary for another season and then be eligible for Free-Agency when they can Drsft DT Nix themselves on a Rookie Deal for cheap..
Think about it, your deal makes little sense if your the Pats..
As a new coach you don’t come in and slaughter the most popular players, its a process of weeding out the problems
To have credibility Kelly needed an open competition at qb, Vick win out in pre-season but Kelly was glad Foles won the job
Ironic though that Vick was the least of kelly’s problems, hence exit Jackson and McCoy is next to go
And 1st rd picks get 4yr deals I think so it would be 2yr deal and nix and wilfork are same type of player it’s better to have one pass rusher and one run stuffer.
Its going to be very interesting to see when Nick Foles is eligible to be signed long term after the season. I already posted what Chip Kelly said in his days at Oregon. He said he would never pay a QB that huge amount of money that his system dictates there success. Couple that with Djax not being his vision at WR. Foles surely doesn’t fit his “vision” either. What if Foles has another great year? Will Barney Rubble change his philosophy?. He once again went out of his way to praise Johnny football yesterday more than he ever did with Foles. Fans that think Barney and the Eagles are going to back up the Brinks truck for Foles might be in for a rude awakening. That is disturbing.
I’m going to predict, that the Genius doesn’t last 2 more years, if he keeps making decisions like he has this off-season. The manure, that was shoveled yesterday, by Weaselman, the genius, & eyebrows, in explanation to the DJax debacle, was embarrassing, & nauseating, to anyone with a brain cell!!!! Like I said from the day of his release, they cut him because of the geniuses EGO, & $$$$! It is UNACCEPTABLE, to get absolutely nothing, for your best receiver, coming off of his best year! PERIOD! I don’t give a f^#@, how selfish he is, who he hangs with, or how big of a lunkhead he is. This entire off-season has been disgusting, & underwhelming, to say the least, & I don’t see the draft getting any better, with only 6 picks, & the defense still a mess!
I’m also starting to get a bad feeling, Foles is on his way out, & Johnny Football is on his way in! That would really put the icing, on the shit cake of this off-season!
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Yep I guess he already had his Foles is not the direction I want to go in conversation with the eyebrow.
SMMFH……..
This is the NFL not the PAC 20 or whatever, we’ll see where this is headed after this season when they deal with McCoy and Foles should be interesting. The eyebrow, The Genuis and The Boy Wonder. LOL
I have lightened up on Chips decision to get rid of Djax with the thought on building on the future with bigger receivers no matter what his numbers were. Thats why Foles is in trouble no matter what his numbers are. Thry dont fit his vision.
Yeah because you know 1 more year with DJax opening up things for your offense would have you know destroyed Coach Ego’s vision. I take everything back I said about them being upfront about this. They should have just remained silent. SMH.
More Trade Runors going around in my head
Eagles send QB Foles to Texans for their
2nd Rounder (#33) and 4th Rounder (#97)
And their 2015 3rd Rounder
Eagles then send RB McCoy to the Titans
For their 1st Rounder (#11) and a 2bd Round Pick
In 2015
Eagles now have
#11,#22, #33, #54,#86 & #96 & #122 Selections
In the First 4 Rounds
Their Selections
#11 – QB Johnny Football
#22 – WR Cody Latiner
#33 – RB Carlos Hyde
#54 – DT Da’Quan Jones
#86 – CB Keith McGill
#97 – WR Jarvis Landry
#122 – Safety Dontae Johnson
It is what it is.. Go Eagles…
Chip Kelky likes challenges and will mix up
The Roster every Season…
You never know paulman you never know.
I am about getting “Traded Out” with my Rumor’s already…
This Draft can’t come here quick enough… 🙂
For Next Off-Season,
Chip Kelly Trades Johnny Football after winning the “Rookie of the Year” Award for 2014 and leading the Eagles to a
11-5 Season and a berth to the NFC Championship in which they lose to Seahawks in a 26-24 Last second FG
Kelly Sends Johnny Football to the Titans for their 1st Round Pick in 2015 Drafat and Selects QB Marcus Mariotta…and so it goes….
Coach Kelly will state that the Trade of Johnny Football nect Off-Season. after a great Rookie Season, was only for “Football Reasons” only and had nothing to do with Johnny Football being more Popular in Philly and around the NFL than Coach Kelly himself.. Ha
I have a question….everyone is saying Foles is gone after this season bc he will be great again and you’s are bitching about how he’ll be let go. What if Foles shits up the joint this year? Will you still be bitching if he gets cut/traded then? More then likely not. So instead of bellyaching about something in the future why not talk about the good possibilities of this year. I wasn’t on the site last year, but I doubt many of you predicted a 10-6 record and Foles being a damn good QB. Patience people pantience
people on this site aren’t happy unless they are whining and predicting the future….
If he plays terrible some will say I told you so, I’ll blame coach Ego and people will be screaming and yelling at each other. Vinnie will probably be never heard from again. Some stuff really is predictable.
Lol Paulman I think you have a better chance of trading foles to the Vikings for there 1st rd pick.
Good Idea Gloomy, I will use the Vikings on my next “Trade Alert Rumor”