This is it, your round by round; player by player go to for the 2014 NFL draft. I have narrowed it down to 113 players, seven rounds and undrafted names to add to the practice squad.
There are players that will go too high, others who will be right there for the taking while some drop several spots or a full round into the welcoming arms of the Eagles.
On the defensive side of the football, the 3-4 scheme requires specific football players. Many of the starting OLB’s in the NFL played DE at the college level. Talent evaluation and scouting of these players and “if” they can transition to the OLB at the pro level requires “great” football minds to be on your side.
There are impact players at the ILB/OLB/CB, positions of “need” for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Safeties that fans covet in Pryor and Bucannon are “in the box” hard hitting safeties. These two names may not be available or fit the kind of safety that Kelly sees in his scheme. There is late round depth to add at the safety position, big athletic kids who have experience at both safety positions while also seeing time playing cornerback.
Speaking of cornerback, this is another position that Roseman has been open about, recognizing the availability of talent in this draft, and the need for added depth with the state of the Eagles. Chances are that Fletcher and Williams are gone after the 2014 season, and off-season acquisition Nolan Carroll is depth, hoping he can earn snaps.
In addition to areas of need, the Eagles could also upgrade their depth at offensive guard. The starting guards are over 30, and although Mathis is improving with age, his teammate on the other side is declining with his productivity.
Kelly has been limited with what he shares with the media and fan base, but we do know that he enjoys competition at all positions, and that he likes multiple and different styles of tight-ends and running backs. The Eagles are a run first team, they really like the tight-end position and will continue to carry 3-4 of each position on their game day roster. Aren’t we already stacked at these positions? With the Eagles sticking to their strategy of “best player” available and not position of need, anything is possible.
The Eagles only hold “6” picks for the 2014 draft. The strongest depth in this draft is clearly at the wide receiver position. I would not be surprised if a few NFL teams receive respectable contributions from the wide receivers that go undrafted.
The Eagles have an obvious need to get a WR at some point, and Howie Roseman has expressed that it is not necessary to draft one day 1, with guys he and Chip like throughout all 7 rounds. There are WR’s available in every round that have “top-end” speed comparable to the void left behind by Desean Jackson’s departure. Receivers also come at 6’3” and will be there in day 2 and day 3.
If you listen to the most recent rumors, the Eagles are clearly targeting a wide receiver and are willing to move up to ensure getting ”their” guy. In the course of a few months following a NFC East title, the Eagles allowed a pro bowl wide receiver to walk without anything to show for it, and could possibly overpay to find a replacement. We do recall how the season ended. It was the failure to stop the Saints offense, and defense should be the focus of this draft class.
So what position groups have talent available in day 2 or 3, and which have little to offer after the top five names have been drafted?
To start, there is a significant drop-off at the pass-rush linebacker and safety positions after the first three rounds. As more NFL teams transition to the 3-4 defense, the need for these specific skilled players will be taken higher than their projected position.
Safety was a position in free agency that was the first to have the big names signed, but many teams are still looking to upgrade at the back end of their secondary. After the top 5 safeties who will likely be gone by round 2 or early in round 3, there are athletic players who have skills, but their a bit unpolished or have not played against elite talent.
Between Chip, Howie and Gamble, the Eagles have the brain trust needed to draft players who are ready to make an impact in 2014 and for years to come.
With an average secondary even after the off-season additions, it is crucial the Eagles get consistent pressure from their front seven players. They have added some players both in free agency and with others returning from injury that will immediately provide depth.
Is there a chance that Curry or Graham could be traded for a player or draft picks during the draft? I believe it is possible, but the NFL has always been a difficult business to make a draft day trade involving a veteran player and not draft pick.
Curry would rank as one of the top five 4-3 defensive ends with the talent in the 2014 draft class at that position. If another NFL team was interested, would the Eagles send Curry, a former second round pick out the door for a 4th and 5th rounder?
This draft compares in “franchise changing importance” to the year we took McNabb. The players the Eagles come away with either keep us as a playoff hopeful team or a team considered amongst the few as NFC Super Bowl contenders.
Are there more than 113 players that fit the type of player the Eagles target under the Chip Kelly watchful eye? I can ensure you there are many players that are here because of playing a 3-4 defense. A big nose tackle, safety or a defensive end before day 3 would be a complete surprise to me.
If the Eagles were to make no changes to their first three selections at pick #22, #54 and #86, I expect a cornerback, wide receiver and linebacker to be selected at some combination of the three.
By the end of round 7, I anticipate multiple trades by the Eagles. In all, the Eagles will select 8 players, with one “major” surprise.
With my round by round breakdown, at position groups where multiple players are listed, the order you are reading is the actual rankings. There were easily 15-20 names that were removed from this list to trim the total number to 113, and there are many NFL teams who go into the draft with 100 names or less.
Ha Ha Clinton Dix and Mike Evans are names that would simply take too much from a trade stand point and were not included on my list. For the one or two hopefuls that Chip would finally get to coach Johnny Football, that simply “will not happen.”
Round 1
WR– Odell Beckham Jr. (LSU) Brandin Cooks (Oregon State) Marquis Lee (USC), Cody Latimer (Indiana), Kelvin Benjamin (FSU)
DE – RaShede Hageman (Minnesota), Stephon Tuitt (Notre Dame),
ILB– C J Mosely (Alabama)
OLB- Anthony Barr (UCLA)
CB– Dennard (Michigan State), Justin Gilbert (Oklahoma State) Kyle Fuller (Virginia Tech), Jason Verett (TCU)
S- Calvin Pryor- (Louisville)
Round 2
OG- Xavier Su’a-Filo (UCLA)
WR- Donte Moncrief (Ole Miss), Jarvis Landry (LSU) Allen Robinson (Penn State), Jordan Mathews (Vanderbilt), Davante Adams (Fresno State)
TE- Jace Amaro (Texas Tech), Austin Seferian-Jenkins (Washington)
OLB-Demarcus Lawrence (Boise State), Dee Ford (Auburn), Carl Bradford (Arizona State), Jeremiah Attaochu (Georgia Tech)
CB- Bradley Roby (Ohio State). Stanley Jean-Baptiste (Nebraska), Pierre Desir (Lindenwood)
S- Deone Bucannon (Washington State), Jimmie Ward (Northern Illinois)Terrence Brooks (Florida State)
Round 3
OG-Gabe Jackson (Mississippi State)
WR- Martavis Bryant (Clemson), Paul Richardson (Colorado), Bruce Ellington (South Carolina)
DE- Scott Crichton (Oregon State)
ILB- Chris Borland (Wisconsin), Christian Jones (Florida State)
OLB- Kyle Van Noy (BYU), Trent Murphy (Stanford), Will Clarke (West Virginia),
CB- Marcus Roberson (Florida), Bashaud Breeland (Clemson), Jaylen Watkins (Florida)
Round 4
OG-David Yankey (Stanford)
WR– Jared Abbrederis (Wisconsin), Dri Archer (Kent State) Josh Huff (Oregon), Devin Street (Pitt)
DE– Kareem Martin (North Carolina), James Gayle (Virginia Tech)
ILB- Shayne Skov (Stanford)
OLB– Jordan Tripp (Montana), Trevor Reiley (Utah) Marcus Smith (Louisville), Jackson Jeffcoat (Texas)
CB– Walt Aikens (Liberty), Rashaad Reynolds (Oregon State), E.J. Gaines (Missouri)
S– Dezmen Southward (Wisconsin)
Round 5
RB/WR– D’Anthony Thomas (Oregon)
WR– Brandon Coleman (Rutgers), Kevin Norwood(Alabama), Michael Campanaro (Wake Forest), TJ Jones(Notre Dame)
TE– Larry Webster (Bloomsburg)
OLB-Adrian Hubbard (Alabama), Kevin Pierre-Louis( Boston College), Aaron Lynch (South Florida )Devon Kennard (Southern California), Khairi Fortt (California)
CB– Terrance Mitchell (Oregon), Antone Exum (Virginia Tech), Aaron Colvin (Oklahoma)
S-Ahmad Dixon (Baylor), Dontae Johnson (North Carolina State) Kenny Ladler (Vanderbilt)
Round 6
OG- Brandon Thomas (Clemson), Anthony Steen (Alabama)
WR- Matt Hazel- (Coastal Carolina,) Jeff Janis (Saginaw Valley), Jalen Saunders, WR (Oklahoma), Mike Davis (Texas)
OG- Brandon Thomas (Clemson), Anthony Steen (Alabama)
DE- Ed Stinson (Alabama)
ILB-Max Bullough (Michigan State), Andrew Jackson (Western Kentucky)
CB- Shaquille Richardson (Arizona)
S– Craig Loston (LSU), Jonathan Dowling (Western Kentucky) Tre Boston (North Carolina)
Round 7
TE- Colt Lyerla (Oregon)
WR– Shaquelle Evans (UCLA), Tevin Reese (Baylor) L’Damian Washington (Missouri), Quincy Enunwa (Nebraska)
DE– Jeoffrey Pagan(Alabama)
NT– Zach Kerr (Delaware), Ryan Carrethers (Arkansas State)
ILB-Glenn Carson (Penn State)
OLB– Kasim Edebali (Boston College)
CB-Deion Belue(Alabama)
Undrafted
WR-Marcus Lucas (Missouri)
NT- Bryan Jones (Arkansas)
ILB-James Morris (Iowa), Spencer Shuey (Clemson)
OLB-Nate Askew (Texas A&M)
CB- Carrington Byndom (Texas)
S– Lonnie Ballentine (Memphis)
K- Chandler Catanzaro (Clemson), Zach Hocker (Arkansas)
Good Stuff Jeff,
I hope the Eagles can swing a couple of Deals
Without mortgaging Future Picks and get at least
2 more Selections in that 2nd thru 4th Rounds
They are sitting at #22 which some Teams are the early part of the 2nd Round may want to get a QB (Carr,Bridgewater, etc) or one of these
top WR’s..
I would not mind seeing them trade down 5-10 Spots to gain additional Picks and or packaging a couple of Players like Graham, Bryce Brown, James Casey
To gain some additional mid-round Picks..
I agree with you that there will be at least 1 “Surprise”
draft Selection or Trade that none of us saw coming,
I just hope they don’t trade up and give away some of the few Picks they have
Teams that are loaded with Picks include the Browns, 49ers & Jets so maybe a Deal with one of these Teams could happen
Could a Brett Celek or an Evan Mathis, Matt Barkley be part of a Deal?
Lots of action & drama through-out Thursday’s 1st Round, I believe for many Teams..
Good point Jeff in that players rarely get traded during the draft. This isn’t the nba or nhl it just doesn’t happen.
Trades for players rarely happens at all in the nfl… If guys like brown Casey Mathis celek were gonna get moved for picks this year it would’ve already went down IMO
Regarding the surprise I don’t think their will be one big surprise as the only big surprise I could see would be them trading and I see no way that would make any sense for them this year.
So I’m going no player trades and no surprises (unless trading down from 22 is a surprise)
I have them ending up with 11-12 picks in this draft look out for a cox trade that would shock everybody but me.
They won’t get 11-12. No shot.
and they are not Trading Fletcher Cox either
Because you’re nuts! This isn’t Madden GM mode!
How the hell do they end up with 11picks?
I hope y’all realize that howie avgs 10 picks a year.
When this draft is over they will between 9-12 picks.
You guys don’t seem to listen when Gloomy speaks.. coming from an outright accurate prognosticator myself, Gloomy has been dead on all off season long… Listen to the man..
And good job, I mentioned on here a month or two ago that the Birds will make trades trades trades and more trades. They only have 6 picks and like you said, I said they usually have 9-12 picks on avg per yr.
They really want Khalil Mack..
IJ, gloomy is hooked on bath salts, & wet.
It’s not until you point “wet” after bath salts does that line become funny as hell to me.
LMFBO!!
And the eagles never trade a player or a pick before the trade they are afraid it tips there hand at what they may or may not draft.
My Tuesday morning mock draft
#22-Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA
Height: 6-5. Weight: 255.
40 Time: 4.66.
Projected Round (2014): Top-16 Pick.
54-Martavis Bryant*, WR, Clemson
Height: 6-3. Weight: 211.
40 Time: 4.42.
Projected Round (2015): 2-3.
#86-Christian Jones, OLB/ILB, Florida State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 240.
40 Time: 4.74.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
#122-Daniel McCullers, DT, Tennessee
Height: 6-7. Weight: 352.
Projected 40 Time: 5.54.
Projected Round (2014): 3-4.
#162-Devin Street, WR, Pittsburgh
Height: 6-3. Weight: 198.
40 Time: 4.55.
Projected Round (2014): 4-6.
#237-Brandon Thomas, OT/G, Clemson
Height: 6-3. Weight: 316.
40 Time: 5.09.
Projected Round (2014): 3-4.
Paulman’s Tuesday Eagles Mock Draft (A Meat & Potato’s type of Draft with no Trades Up or back)
Rd 1 – DT – Timmy Jernigan (Florida State 6-2 300lbs)
Rd 2 – Center/Guard – Marcus Martin (USC 6-3 320lbs)
Rd 3 – CB – Walt Aiken (Liberty 6-1 203lbs)
Rd 4 – WR – Shaquille Evans (UCLA 6-1 215lbs)
Rd 5 – OLB – Michael Sam (Missouri 6-2 260lbs)
Rd 7 – ILB – Yawin Smallwood (U Conn 6-2 247lbs)
There is little doubt in my mind that if DE/OLB M Sam is on the Board in the 5th Round, that Owner Lurie will instruct GM Roseman/Kelly to Select him.. Lurie loves to pave the way in the NFL as a “Equal-Oppportunity Organization” and loves to keep attention on his Organization from TO,Mike Vick, Juan Castillo as DC, to CHip Kelly, etc,etc…
BARF!!!!!
Trade down is the best option.
Trade down if the UCLA guard is there. Trade down to where you think he’ll still be.
Grab him first. Then a WR with the 2nd Pick. Maybe another TE. Use the 4-5 and any extra picks garnered in the trade down for OLB and CB.
Done. I don’t see themj drafting a safety. They consider jenkins (27 yrs old) their draft pick at safety.
An NFL scout called Missouri DE Kony Ealy a “classic con man” who is “one of those ‘let somebody else draft him’ guys.”
“He thinks he’s already an Aldon Smith-type player,” the scout said. “Classic con man. I don’t trust this kid. He will be just a big pain in the (expletive). He’s one of those ‘let somebody else draft him’ guys.” A second scout called Ealy a “mess,” while another said he could be a successful NFL player “if you got the right kind of coaching and put a boot into him.” Ealy’s versatility is appealing, but he’s a candidate to be overdrafted in a weak defensive-line class.
Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
May 6 – 10:18 AM
No Ealy on my list of 113. Not only do I see him as a 4-3 only guy, but there is something about the kid that thinks he is much better then his actual skill set.
Kony Ealy has not fared well in Interviews and has bit of a arrogant attitude per many Reports and has dropped into a late 1st or early 2nd even in a weak Draft Class of DE’s ..
I know GMCliff has been high on Kony Ealy all Off-Season, I just don’t see the maturity or work ethic in him to Draft in the 1st Round
I much rather have a Kareem Martin, Marcus Smith that Kony Ealy
Paulman If I’m gonna waste a 5th rd pick I rather do it on Aaron Colvin or Brandon Thomas two guys I know that can play when healthy not some undersized sideshow freak.
I would not take OLB Michael Sam personally , but I do believe that will be Owner Jeff Lurie’s “Pick” if he’s still on the Board which he should ..
Eagles are either gonna swing for the fences or trade back if at all possible.
I think they will be trying to get into the top 10 and leveraging two drafts if they think they can land a Superstar(Evans/Watkins-Clowney/Mack)
If they trade up in the mid teens just to get Odell Beckman…I will be highly pissed. Not saying hes not a good player but hes not worth giving up limited picks.
Unlike others if they can pry Dion Jordan out of Miami and its nothing more than a 2 possibly and a player or a 3 and pick next year I would do it.
It makes more sense to continue to load up on offense since thats the strongest point on the team. The defense is still on wait and see mode because if Cox/Kendricks/Boykins/Logan aren’t long term options youre realistically not bringing anything at 22 that is going to make the defense better. If Cox turns into Broderick Bunkley this team is in serious trouble defensively. We can’t afford the 6th pick in the draft being Danny Watkins/Shawn Andrews.
“If they trade up in the mid teens just to get Odell Beckman…I will be highly pissed. Not saying hes not a good player but hes not worth giving up limited picks.”
–I’ll take your highly pissed and raise you a “remote control across the room pissed”.
Izzell some solid philosphy points with the Eagles both now and with the future. I have Beckham Jr as the 3rd best WR in this class. I think he is gone by pick 15. We would have to give up multiple picks to move up that much, not worth it, too much talent at Wr in this draft…
Jeff Kolsky
Like I have stated before, since 05 we have drafted terribly with out picks round 1-3. It is the exact reason why we have 20 million in cap space and no one to spend it on. the 2010-2011 draft set this team back 5 years. Out of 6 picks I believe only Nate Allen is still on the team.
The one caveat is that Andy still had a good eye for OL talent and we were able to land Kelce and Herremans in the later rounds and the Peters trade was the plus side of trading a high pick for an excellent player.
Defensively though its not a coincidence since 2005 why we have gotten considerably worse on that side of the ball and why we suck so badly there now. Trent Cole is a nice player but he never was a superstar and never will be. Just a solid 10-13 sacks a year guy. Take him away and its sickening the waste of picks we have made in almost a decade.
This is what I’m convinced is going to happen. Birds trade #22 & Vinny Curry to the Dolphins for Dion Jordan, & 2nd rounder- #50 & 6th rounder- #190. Graham to the Falcons for 4th rounder- #139. Bryce Brown to the Ravens for 4th rounder- #138. That gives us-
2- #50- WR Jordan Matthews.
2(2)- #54- WR Davante Adams.
3- #86- CB/Safety Keith McGill.
4- #122- OG Cyril Richardson.
4(2)- #138- ILB Shayne Skov.
4(3)- #139- NT Daniel McCullers.
5- #162- DE Will Clarke.
6- #190- CB Dontae Johnson.
7- #237- OT Justin Britt.
I’m feeling that if we get Matthews at 2.
I love Mattews. Kid is going to be a beast. Big, fast, good hands, & is Jerry Rice’s cousin. Can’t beat that.
I don’t think any team has ever made that many trades involving players on draft day. Trading players is so unbelievably rare.
btc, I know, but a man can dream right? Howie does like his trades, & my proposals are realistic, & not nutty like gloomy has been posting. That Jordan rumor has been around, for a few months now, & my Brother lives in Jacksonville, & is still hearing it is still very possible to happen.
OLB and NT are pivotal to the 3-4 defense. I hope Anthony Barr is there at #22. And Justin Ellis as our NT so Kendricks and Ryans can play downhill and make plays
The Eagles spent a 3rd rder on Logan last year, and they really like him. Ellis will probably be a 3rd himself, possible a 4th… I left him and McCullers off my list as I see the Eagles “content” with what they have at NT, and they will add depth in the late rounds or with a big man who goes undrafted. (The kid from Oregon is 330+, I’m sure Chip would throw him a bone and see if he could make our roster)
Wow Dcar I’m crazy but you still have them with 9picks plus they could still Casey or Mathis
Because my trades are realistic, with those team needs, & players worth, & not the Madden, GM mode, fantasy nonsense, that you’ve been spouting off about, the last month! We ain’t getting 4 picks for #22. So get it out of your retarded, immature brain.
Damn, DCar got a hold of Gloomy’s “Draft Trade-Chart” .. Good Grief…
paul, you should talk? XD
Paulman I’m not worried about this BOY is talking about all of this will be answered on draft day
I want our defense to improve. running game defense & special teams travel well especially on the road or at the linc.
My mock draft (Eagles trade Curry or Graham for a 6th round pick)
Draft A
1- Calvin Pryor S
2- Cristian Jones OLB
3- Jaylen Watkins CB
4- Josh Huff WR
5- D’Anthony Thomas RB/WR
6- Luchiez Purifoy CB
7- Best Olineman Project OL
Draft B
1- Odell Beckham WR
2- Christian Jones OLB
3- Jaylen Watkins CB
4- David Yankey OG
5- Craig Loston S
6- Louchiez Purifoy CB
7- Colt Lyeria TE
I would still love to see that trade for Dion Jordan happen but for our second rounder and maybe a future pick next year/Graham. IF Barr is there at 22 I take hime over Pryor/Beckham or CJ Mosely…I just doubt Barr gets by the Cowboys at 17.
Cameron Wake is a year order than Trent Cole. Dion Jordan is his replacement. Olivier Vernon was the next DE drafted after the Eagles took Vinny Curry. That was their plan going forward to add youth to their edge rushers. I would be shocked if the Dolphins or Eagles give up on Jordan and Curry.
pheags88, I was thinking Christian Jones in the second round if we trade down and acquire a second second round pick. I’m wondering if the report about the failed drug test will either lower his draft stock or completely take him off of the Eagles board.
LB Christian Jones is Rated by most Scouts as a 4th Round Prospect in the #110-#125 Range.. Why everyone keeps thinking he’s a 2nd Rounder and a Top #65 Prospect is beyond me..
The ILB Position is like the RB position, it’s devalued in today’s NFL ..
Watching Fla. State last year, specifically because of Benjamin and Winston, I kept noticing Christian Jones making plays. He can play 3 positions and I remember him playing man on Sammy Watkins and sticking with him stride for stride. I’m not concerned about what the talking heads say. I think he’s a great fit for the Eagles. Pete carroll didn’t worry about what the Mel Kiper’s said about Bruce Irvin. If you like somebody, you get him!
Pryor and Beckham are going to be long gone by 22…Kyle Fuller may fall and be there for them at 22
Kyle Fuller is an expected #-25-# 30th Prospect.. How would he fall?
It’s expected that he will be on the Board at #22 as will Pryor who has fallen out of the Top #20 ?
I still like the Eagles to draft Stephon Tuitt.
More than half the snaps Barwin drops into coverage leaving Cox and Cole as the edge rushers. Tuitt would be a better edge rusher than Cox as a 5 tech hybrid edge rusher. If the birds have an anchor capable of holding Offensive lineman or rushing around them then they can use pure speed on the other side making replacing Cole easier.
If Anthony Barr slips to 15 I try to make a move with a player and a future pick in 2015. If Aaron Donald is available at 15, I hold off as I think Dallas will take Donald, leaving Barr to slip past Dallas. I would them move up to 17 or 18 to take him.
Anthony Barr is a part time player. He is not strong enough to hold the edge in the run game. Trent Williams and Tyron Smith would destroy him. You cannot trade up or even draft a player at 22 who is not good enough to play first or second down in the NFL.
LOL…it’s not as if Anthony Barr is a finished product who doesn’t have room to grow or get stronger. Every player coming out has a flaw in their game, Barr’s is fixable. His upside IMO is outstanding. As far as Tuitt, i do not like him as I think he has a hot and cold motor, very inconsistent, which to me speaks to desire. Watching ND last year, i just did not see impact or game changing ability coming from a man his size.
If the eagles get Jordan it will be after June 1st when they take less of a cap hit but I Dout they trade him would love to have him.
My Tuesday afternoon mock draft
#22-Brandin Cooks*, WR, Oregon State
Height: 5-9. Weight: 189.
40 Time: 4.33.
Projected Round (2014): 1-2.
#54-Keith McGill, CB, Utah
Height: 6-3. Weight: 211.
40 Time: 4.51.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
#86-Daniel McCullers, DT, Tennessee
Height: 6-7. Weight: 352.
Projected 40 Time: 5.54.
Projected Round (2014): 3-4.
#122-Will Clarke, DE, West Virginia
Height: 6-6. Weight: 271.
40 Time: 4.77.
Projected Round (2014): 3-5.
#162-Ron Powell*, OLB, Florida
Height: 6-3. Weight: 237.
40 Time: 4.65.
Projected Round (2014): 4-6.
#237-Brandon Thomas, OT/G, Clemson
Height: 6-3. Weight: 316.
40 Time: 5.09.
Projected Round (2014): 3-4.
With all of the mock drafts you put up you should hit on one of them. Where do you find the time dude!
I will pay good money for someone to wire up a live feed of the Gloomy residence when the Eagles are on the clock, this dude is bonkers with the mocks and the trade scenarios. But I do enjoy them, not gonna lie.
That doesn’t include trades of Mathis,curry,graham & Casey
It’s very unlikely any Teams are going to Trade for Mathis & Casey with their Current Salaries/Contracts and Mathis actually is seeking more $$$
Just don’t see it happening for a 32 Year Old Guard..
Hot rumor! Nick Foles and the 22nd pick for Cleveland’s 4th pick..and the Eagles snatch up: Johnny Manziel!
LOL..they just talked about that nonsense on WIP. Don’t believe anything coming out right now. Cleveland maybe trying to drum up interest to trade out of that spot. What better name to mention to stir a rumor…Chip Kelly.
lmfao
NICK FOLES IS THE EAGLES STARTING QB ARE YOU RETARDED?
we all know that you are a drunk retard mhenski! crawl back into your hole!
Kool you are a doofus. I haven’t used that word in years but it applies to you big time! You are clueless and have no perception of reality.
Johnny runaround in philly get the fuck outta here.
You are one of those doofuses that wants the side show, hype and high lite reels over successful humble guys who just go out and get the job done.
Get a clue ya idiot.
LMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mhenski…you are a damm Fool! i didn’t start the rumor fool! its out there…google it idiot. Your dumb ass is satisfied idiot who would rather take a ‘humble’ loser above a brash winner…
We true Eagles fans want to win a Super Bowl…not the damm ‘humble bowl’
Take your humble idiot ass somewhere else….we are trying to win here in Philly stupid!
see that is what makes you a doofus. one man made up a rumor out of thin air, wrote it and posted it on the internet and you are one of the only doofuses on gods green earth that believes it.
you are also one of few doofuses that would actually welcome kicking out a qb that blew up the fucking NFL last year and was more efficient than any other qb in the game. makes a lot of sense
you talk a lot about we and us but generally speaking nobody ever agrees with you mostly because you are doofus but also because you think the game of football is won with running backs playing quarterback and won by making the most top 10 plays.
bottom line is you should save yourself the embarrassment and stop posting here because every time you do everyone here either laughs at you or ignores you.
Maybe..maybe so. However, where there is smoke there’s fire. More than likely…its a wild rumor that has no credibility…but why does it even come up? Why is Nick Foles name even mentioned in a rumor ?
Do the Eagles believe that Nick Foles is a franchise QB that can lead them to a SuperBowl…or does Chip Kelly who “loves” Manziel (funny…he hasn’t said anything like that about Foles) is he thinking about busting that move and grabbing Manziel!
yep where there is smoke their is fire. every team in the nfl is gonna trade up this week and draft johnny runaround or clowney or barr. lmfao.
what a doofus u are
mhenski..you are truly an asshead, one of the only guys I know that has to lay down to take a dump! I know you just want some ‘nice, humble guys’ that says “aww jeez…we gave it our all..or ‘we left it all on the field’ while we go home and watch some other town have a parade.
You see those guys you mention have what you need to win in the NFL….talent! It would be nice to see the Eagles bust a move and get an impact player on this team…we only got one…Shady! The rest are basically, humble, nice, average players….losers…with our squad now your looking at 7-9….no playoffs…another disappointing season!
yup i will take talent over athlete all day at the quarterback position. and nick foles is more talented at throwing the ball then Johnny runaround
Your drunk asshead…Johnny runaround has a much better arm than Foles, more talent, more heart…the guy is a winner. Put him in the right system with some good coaching and you have a much better QB than Nervous Nick Foles
LSU and Missouri shut him down with ease. I am pretty sure NFL defenses will be able to do the same. But thats cool root for him, I am sure he will better than Vick.
I don’t think Manziel, will be any good as a pro period….
Foles is a Pro Bowl MVP, – Manziel’s got some work to do, before anyone can say he’s better than Foles, or any other Pro QB in the league…
He is totally flowing on in my opinion unnecessary popularity – ala Tim Tebow . The team that drafts him will be sorry they did.
The rumor exists because all sorts of people are going to throw crap against the wall before they draft to see if any of it sticks. They do it because they don’t have to actually have information. They can just speculate. And Manziel is going to be linked to Kelly until he is picked by another team because he was recruited by Kelly.
Pretty simple. You hate Foles so you are seeing things that are not really there.
koolbreeze is a doofus he wont understand what you just wrote bugsy. cant help the helpless
Foles is not Super Bow caliber QB and we don’t have a Super Bowl caliber defense….so I see no Super Bowls with Foles, Bugsy…and this is not one of those trade suggestions that I made up! Read a little bit…google it…there is a rumor-legitimate or not….that has the Eagles trading Foles and the 22nd pick to Cleveland for the 4th Pick.
I don’t believe that the Eagles will do that…but who knows…where there is smoke…there is fire…and I wonder if the Eagles want to pay Foles the big Quarterback bucks? Do they think he is worth Top Ten Quarterback money? …
If the Eagles don’t win a playoff game this year…are they going to pay Foles the big bucks…
When you ask these questions, look at how Chip Kelly answers questions about Foles-not exactly ringing endorsements-and think about the Eagles and money…well…I don’t believe the draft rumors…but I sure would not be surprised at all!
Hey Doofus, explain how you arrived at this conclusion:
“Foles is not Super Bow caliber QB “
Simple Asshead, he has been in the league the same amount of time has Russell Wilson and Kaepernick and he has how many playoff wins?? How many good teams has he beaten in his NFL career? Only a fool like you would think he is a Super Bowl caliber QB when he has failed to win a single playoff game.
Hey Doofus,
I know you dont know how to read to well but let me try all caps:
DID I SAY HE WAS A SUPER BOWL CALIBER QB?
i did ask the following question but you did not answer it:
HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THE CONCLUSION THAT FOLES IS NOT A SUPER BOWL QB?
Bugs preaching wisdom….
**Paulman Rumor #412
Oakland Raiders have Offered the Eagles their 1st Round Pick in 2014 Draft and a 2nd Round Pick in the 2015 for Coach Chip Kelly..
GM Roseman is on the Clock and Owner Lurie is expected to Sign off on the Deal making OC Pat Shurmur the new Eagles Head Coach..
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Can’t wait for the reactions when Cody Latimer is the pick at 22 with Pryor and Barr still on the board, especially when they go WR again in round 2 and then G in round 3. LOL
Lol if that happens I will go back to my “They hired Juan Castillo” thought process. I was working out with Kermit Washington and Derrick Dockery when I heard that. I got clowned hard that day.
LOL
Would that be better or worse than the Brandom Graham pick? That was the most dissapointed that I have been in an Eagles’ draft.
As puzzling as that pick was (Earl Thomas, I know)…..Danny Watkins? Or for us Old Schoolers…..Jon Harris…..Michael Haddix
John Reaves, Mike Boroyla, Leonard Holmes, the history of poor 1st Round Draft Picks have been with the Eagles for many Years
Lame Johnson……
I’d be fine with that, but would prefer a Defensive mindset throughout the draft.
The only I’m trading foles to the browns is foles for the 4th pick
makes a lotta sense
your an asshead mhenski…you wouldn’t know what makes sense…if the Eagles draft Latimer with Pryor and Barr still on the board I wouldn’t be surprised at all. The Eagles need defense but they blew it in free agency when they should have spent the money and got Jarius Byrd at safety…they need impact defensive players…not projects on offense!
Hey Asshead-mhenski…entertain us…who do you predict that the Eagles will draft?
your use of … is a great example of why doofus applies to you
LMBO….asshead, running out of things to think of football related…too much shit on your brain! Lay down asshead and stop posting crap…that’s all that comes out of your head anyway!
but to answer your question i dont predict who they will draft or put any stock in mocks or believing rumors the week of the draft, its all a waste of time.
i watch what my team does then assess after, because at the end of the day it doesnt matter who i predict because im not involved in the decision making process. i just watch, then analyze then root.
two easy draft predictions i will make is that the eagles will not draft a quarterback at all and that nick foles will start week 1. if you disagree with either of my predictions ill give you 20-1 odds and we can bet it. ill also give you 100-1 odds we dont draft manziel if you wanna bet it
I don’t believe that the Eagles will draft a quarterback either, and I also believe that Nick Foles will be the opening day starter. I also believe that the Eagles will not make the playoffs and go 7-9 in large part due to a subpar performance that the QB will turn in….folding under the pressure of playing for a big time contract.
1st playoff games
15 of 26 (57%) for 187 yrds 1 td 24 points scored
23 of 33 (67%) for 195 yrds 2 td 24 points scored
One guy is a Koolbreeze hero, the other is a folding bum.
Kooltwit.
Oh…btw….
The first was against the league’s 30th ranked pass D at the time.
The second was against the league’s 2nd ranked pass D at the time.
Kooltwit.
Tuesday nite mock draft
#22-Cody Latimer*, WR, Indiana
Height: 6-2. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.58.
Projected Round (2014): 1-3.
#54-Austin Seferian-Jenkins*, TE, Washington
Height: 6-6. Weight: 266.
Projected 40 Time: 4.68.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
#86-Daniel McCullers, DT, Tennessee
Height: 6-7. Weight: 352.
Projected 40 Time: 5.54.
Projected Round (2014): 3-4.
#122-Christian Jones, OLB/ILB, Florida State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 240.
40 Time: 4.74.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
#162-Will Clarke, DE, West Virginia
Height: 6-6. Weight: 271.
40 Time: 4.77.
Projected Round (2014): 3-5.
#237-Brandon Thomas, OT/G, Clemson
Height: 6-3. Weight: 316.
40 Time: 5.09.
Projected Round (2014): 3-4.
Im sorry I just cant let this go. Im just watching the NFL Network crew playing around with a mock draft and what a friggin year last year to have the 4th pick compared to this year. I don’t give a shit about Lane Johnson playing every snap he is a 4th pick RT at his point. Who the hell picks a RT at #4? I think Joeckel may be the only top 20 pick out of the top 3 last year. We would be talking about Clowney slipping, Mack, Watkins, Robinson, Evans, trading back and getting picks etc. . SMH
I know I know we didn’t know if how Peters would rebound after his injury and it worked out he came back just fine. It just sucks that we had to spend the 4th pick in the draft on a RT. Look wha the 4th pick in this draft produces. I guarantee you it isn’t no RT.It will be a Sammy Watkins. SMH
The eagles were a year late also with the rg3 year.
Eagles great track record of drafting WRs
1982 – Mike Quick – NC State, No. 20 Overall
1984 – Kenny Jackson – Penn State, No. 4
2001 – Freddie Mitchell – UCLA, No. 25
2009 – Jeremy Maclin – Missouri, No. 19
1990 – Mike Bellamy – Illinois, No. 50
1993 – Victor Bailey – Missouri, No. 50
2000 – Todd Pinkston – Southern Miss, No. 36
2005 – Reggie Brown – Georgia, No. 35
2008 – DeSean Jackson – California, No. 49
1966 – Ben Hawkins – Arizona State, No. 36
1983 – Glen Young – Mississippi State, No. 62
1990 – Fred Barnett – Arkansas State, No. 77
1995 – Chris T. Jones – Miami, No. 78
2003 – Billy McMullen – Virginia, No. 95
1971 – Harold Carmichael – Southern, No. 161 (seventh round)
1990 – Calvin Williams – Purdue, No. 133 (fifth round)
2006 – Jason Avant – Michigan State, No. 109 (fourth round)
2010 – Riley Cooper – Florida, No. 159 (fifth round)
I guess Pro Bowl WRs don’t grow on trees. lol
Wasn’t Mike Quick a Tar Heel from
UNC and not NC State..
Fred Barnett was one of my favorite Eagle Receivers,
That guy could leap out of the Vet
Man it is some real waste of space on this list, one of my favorites Ben Hawkins baby. It’s a shame he played with some real stiffs at QB. Harold Jackson could flat out fly. Sorry guys I’m showing my age.
NC State. Paulman Arkansas Fred is also one of my all-time favorites. Barnett and Calvin Williams coupled with Randall were the best Eagle passing trios of all-time. Throw in Kieth Byars and Jackson and hmmmm. Remind me again why we didn’t win a SB with that team. lol
Ok Dag, I thought Mike Quick was a Tar Heel
Paulman if you look at them Eagle teams in the early 90s they are a carbon copy of Seattle and SF of today. The only difference is Randall and the Eagles passing game was better than Wilson and Kap but Seattle and SF run game is better than the Eagles back then.
Randall revolutionized the QB Position
It took another generation of young players that have to emulate his game
And now are in the NFL Ranks.. (Cam Newton,Kap, RG3,Wilson,
Even Vince Young when he was younger & now Johnny Football)
A couple things I believe the Eagles will do this Draft
1) Draft 2 WR’s (1 early and 1 mid-rounds)
2) Draft a DT Early (in the first 3 Rounds)
3) Draft a OL in the first 3-4 Rounds
4) Do not Draft a QB
5) Do not Draft a Safety until later Rounds
6) Trade B Graham for a Mid-Round Pick
7) End Up with 8 Draft Selections
Sal pal had a rumor on 97 the fanatic that last night the eagles are calling teams trying to get in the top 10 to either take Sammy Watkins or mike Evans if this is true I’m not giving up picks I’m giving up players
Even though I Dout this will happen wouldn’t be mad if it did
#22, Evan Mathis , Fletcher Cox and Brandon graham to Oakland for #5
Now I highly think this would happen but if Oakland was dumb enough I would pull the trigger on this deal in a heart beat.
I don’t see the Raiders taking on $10 Million in Eagle
Players Salaries, when they are rebuilding and can get a good young WR for their own Offense..
Any significant Trade Down for the Eagles
Will cost them their 1st,3rd & 4th Round Picks plus a 2015 1st Round Pick which would be way too much to give up to get a Watkins/Evans..
They can get a good one on Beckham,Cooks, Lee, etc by sitting tight
Hey Paulman I wouldn’t mortgage the future either but from all the analysts they say the raiders are in win now mode that’s why they have a team if vets overthere now so that trade may work for them I Dout it but who knows with the raiders…
Swap first rounders, Mathis and Cox for #5. Somebody is sniffing glue. That trade makes zero sense to me. Let’s create a ton of holes just to fill one.
Cox is already a hole he doesn’t fit the 3-4 and Mathis is either gonna be replaced this year or next year and I’m not saying that deal would happen but if Oakland wanted to do that I would do it in a heart beat.
I am not so sure that there is any market at all for Guard Evan Mathis at his Current Contract let alone give him an increase of his Current Deal that he is looking for.. He’s a 32 Year old Journeyman Guard who has found success in Philly, but what Team is going to take on his Contract and Trade Valuable Draft Picks to acquire him.. ain’t happening…
Mathis Remaining Deal stands as Follows
2014 – $6 Million
2015 – $6.5 Million
2016 – $7 Million
Mathis already received his $5 Million Bones when he signed this Deal in 2012 and another $1 Million Roster Bonus in 2013
He is owed no more Bonus $$ on his Current Deal
Does anyone see a Team willing to take on his Current $19.5 Million deal over the next 3 Seasons, let along give him a Raise or New Bonus $$ for a 32 Year Old Guard….
I would say the Eagles will probably ask him to take a Cut or Restructure his Deal after 2014 Season and Mathis will reject, and then get Released next Off-Season.. This is how it works in the NFL, very few Trades of veteran Players with good size contracts..
Eagles Will Draft/Groom a Guard to replace both Mathis and Herreman’s
for the 2015 Season.. 2014 will most likely be their final Seasons for the both of them, unless they take a reduction and restructure….
Eagles Have Alan Barbree, Dennis Kelly,Matt Tobin, J Vandervelde and David Molk all under Contract who can compete for Playing time at Guard plus whoever they Draft…
This is what I have been saying since January. DO not be suprised if Birds draft OL in the first round.
Guard/OT Zach Martin of Notre Dame if he Drops,
or Guard Xavier Sua’-Filo of UCLA would be 2 very solid Selections at #22 and probably be 8-10 Year Starters/Fixtures at Guard beginning in 2015 which is not a bad move for Eagles
OT’s Morgan Moses, Cyrus Kouandijio, Juwan James or Joel Bitonio would all be Solid Picks in the 2nd Round
vinnietheloser…the Eagles will NOT draft a OL in the first round…book it!
Won’t pick one in the 2nd round either.
I am not surprised by anything the Eagles do in the draft, however, I don’t see an OL being taken until the third round at the very least!
I think the Eagles should Trade with Texans
Eagles send #22 Pick to Texans (who then Draft QB Derek Carr) for the Texans 2nd Rd Pick (#33) & 3rd Rd Pick (#65)
Eagles then Select
#33 – WR Cody Latimer (Indiana 6-3 215lbs)
#54 – OLB Jeremiah Attaochu (Ga Tech 6-3 252lbs)
#65 – CB Phillip Gaines (Rice 6-0 195lbs)
#86 – DT Caraun Reid (Princeton 6-2 305lbs)
#122 – WR Shaquille Evans (UCLA 6-1 212lbs)
#162 – Safety Dontae Johnson (NC State 6-2 205lbs)
#237 – Guard Chris Watt (Notre Dame 6-3 310lbs)
I already had that trade Paulman with the same first 2 picks and Paulman we are talking about the raiders here.
That’s my Deal and I am sticking with it Gloomy, (Trade-Chart or No)
This may be my best Mock yet..
No Deal with the Raiders..
**NFL News***
Buffalo BIlls DT Marcel Dareus, who was the 3rd Overall Pick in the 2011 Draft was arrested for having Drugs and Drug Paraphnelia in his homestate of Alabama last evening.. Court Date and Charges are Pending..
Does this Change the Bills Draft strategy at all…
Dareus made his 1st Pro-Bowl last year making 71 Tackles and having 7.5 Sacks from the DT Position
He also was disciplined by Coach Marrone last Year for Violating Team Rules and held our of 2 Games as far as Starting Goes as punishment
How loaded is that Bills defense. That tells you they just have terrible coaching. Alonzo, Williams, Dareus, Williams…man o man.
They’ve gone thru 2-3 Coaching Staff and GM Changes in the last 5 Seasons and you can never establish consistency or growth with your Roster when changing philosophies every other Season..
***Flyers News ***
Flyers announe that Ronnie Hextall has been promoted to GM and that
Paul Holmgrem is now Team President…
so Ed Snider has decided to refer to frozen water as ice and 12:00 pm as noon now
***NFL News***
A typical signing for the Patriots who added Free-Agent DE Will Smith who was injured most of last Season for the Saints, but a very good Player when healthy on a Rotational Basis and can still get to the QB..
He’s 6-3 282lbs and was released by the Saints for Salary Cap reasons earlier this Spring.. Watch him go on and get 8-10 Sacks for the Patriots in a limited by effective Role… Eagles Pass-Rush could have used a Will Smith and is yet another indication that this upcoming Draft Class for Pass-Rushers is very limited and weak in Depth ..
You may have said this, but Eagles plan is much more long term than what the fans would like to think. I think they know they are 2-3 years away from contention. Thats why there was no urgency or much activity in FA. And the more I think of the draft, I think we need to look at who is leaving. Cole, Ryans, Williams, Fletcher, Heremans, maybe Celek. I think this provides more clues than any perceived holes. I think they are totally fine with their current starters, but will look to fill these holes that will be there next year by getting the kids up to speed in an apprenticeship this year. Mosley, Fuller, Attaochu, Yankey, maybe Lyerla late. These are the positions to look at.
Now you’re coming around!
this draft: guard, WR, TE, DE/OLB…in a suprise, perhaps even RB because the Birds aren’t going to pay a RB $10million next season.
Eagles already “drafted” a S in Jenkins.
Offensive players will take a year to get up to speed in the system and settle in to replace Mathis, Herremans, Celek etc. next year
2015 draft. Heavy on DE/OLB and DBs who take less time to get up to speed than OL and offensive skill positions do.
GM Vinnie’s Mock Draft for Eagles Straight up (No Trade Up or Down)
Rd 1 – Guard Xavier Sua’-Filo (UCLA 6-4 310lbs)
Rd 2 – Center/Guard Wes Richburg (Colorado St 6-3 300lbs)
Rd 3 – WR Kevin Norwood (Alabama 6-2 200lbs)
Rd 4 – TE Arthur Lynch (Georgia 6-5 258lbs)
Rd 5 – RB Isiah Crowell (Alabama State 5-11 225lbs)
Rd 7 – WR Matt Hazel (Coastal Carolina 6-1 200lbs)
I could certainly see the kid from UCLA in the first. After that, picking names is just a fools game.
OL, WR, TE will be drafted early.
If they only take 6 players, I see 2 OL, 1 WR, 1TE, 1 DL, 1 RB.
I thought you would like this Draft Vinnie
If Eagles only remain with 6 Picks –
I still say 2 WR, 1 OL , 1 DT , 1 CB & 1 ILB
Remember Maclin is on a 1 Year Deal and who knows with his History with Injuries.. A Benn, D Johnson and Brad Smith are not NFL WR’s, so there is a real need to add 2 Talented WR’s with upside to groom for the Future … Jeff Maehl is a competent 5th/6th WR, but they need to add 2 WR’s behind Maclin/Cooper
I was going to come up with a All-Canadien Mock Draft for you
(as far as Canadien-Born Players or Players that played College Ball in Canada..)
Intersting note on Calvin Pryor. The Eagles conduct business like the CIA. They have expressed no public interest, have not discussed him, have no connection, no visits. This usually means he is their guy. If he is on the board, I bet they take him. Or even trade up to jump Baltimore and GB.
BTW, Dallas is said to want to trade back and they are…..right in front of Baltimore.
Lol they aren’t drafting Pryor they want versatile safety’s not in the box guys for all they they could’ve just signed tj ward people get over it the eagles are set at safety they will not draft one maybe they get one as a undrafted rookie but they 5 on the roster already.
5 names the eagles may shock the world and trade don’t think it will happen these would just be shocks well not all of them
1.brent celeck
2.trent cole
3. Lesean McCoy
4. Fletcher cox
5. Demeco Ryan’s
Fletcher Cox has 1 more Year on his Rookie Deal so it would be senseless to move him, the other 4 Players Contracts make it almost impossible to Trade. Put that damn “Draft-Day Trade Chart” back into the attic to next Spring Gloomy
None of these are happening …
Cole gets flat out released after 2014 Season
Celek and Ryans take Cuts or get Released after 2014
McCoy stays around for 2 more Seasons
Celek may be the only Player that’s Tradeable with his Current Deal, but it would have to be this Season for he’s approaching 30 Years Old and there are a lot of Veteran TE’s out there and not a very deep TE class
best shot would be to the Jets or Falcons but unlikely
The Eagles also better assess Boykin’s ability to play outside this year. He will not sign an extension to be a NB. So if they are going to insist he can’t be more, he will play out his deal next year and leave in 2016. This man is proud and confident. He sees himself as a starting corner in the NFL. He is not settling on this role they have him in. One of the greatest corners ever was 5’8″. It would be assinine not to evaluate whether he can fill one of your CB needs. I would hate to see this guy become a perennial PB player somewhere else because we thought he was under six feet and not appropriate.
Trade alert eagles send Fletcher Cox to the dolphins for dion Jordan
Will have the post trade mock draft soon.
Jordan is soffffft. Don’t want him. His ceiling is maybe 6-8 sacks a year. Not good enough. Cox has one more year to prove to me he is not a bust. As much as Eagle Nation tries to hype this kid as being something, he is a slightly above average 3-4 DE. The only sure thing on this defense is Barwin and IMO Boykin. Everyone else is either under evaluation (Cox, Logan, Kendricks, Wolff), on the way out (Cole, Ryans, Williams, Fletcher), or a place holder (Jenkins, Thornton).
Paulman I never said what they would get traded for so trade chart I said 5 players the eagles may shock us and trade not all of them any of those 5
Paul is right. Most of those guys are untradable. No value in a lot of them. Graham and Brown are your two most tradable players. I would bet one of them is gone after this weekend.
would be lucky to get a 6 rd pick for either of those guys…in this deep draft guys like Graham and Brown are just not worth much
On a Semi-Serious note, I heard 2 former GM’s (Bill Polian & Charlie Casserly) both state that with such a deep Draft this Year, that the usual Trade Chart and Point System is about useless this Draft, for these GM’s believe that the Overall Talent Level in Rounds 2,3,4 & even the 5th Round are much higher than in recent Draft’s and that Teams will be very reluctant to throw away (3rd/4th/5th Round Picks) to move up in the Draft as in Past Years..
I’m done with cox he is pass rushing Dt in a 4-3 that they are trying to convert into a run stuffing 3-4 de and a situational pass rusher. They are trying to change his whole game at what he is good at and make him play a different position. Jordan is the same way in Miami that =’s win win for both teams.
I am not sure where many of the Posters here believe that Fletcher Cox is a Pass-Rusher of any sort.. He is a run-stopping DT in a 4-3, it’s what he was known as in College with some pass-rushing ability, but not a sack-master by any stretch, now they switch him out to handle the 5-Technique in a 3-4 Scheme which again, the Sacks are designed to come from the OLB’s and not the DE’s..
What are guys expecting from Fletcher Cox ? A 10-12-14 Sack per Season Player, for it’s not his style of game… Many Posters need to Understand how the 3-4 Scheme works…
I do understand it. Guys like Leonard Marshall, Bruce Smith, JJ Watt get after the QB. If you have the talent its a plus to get sacks from DEs. My point is he doesn’t have the talent. PFF ranking 19. Enough said. He is a bust as we speak. You need sacks from wherever. Its not like he is Jerome Brown against the run Paul. Whats he bringing to the party??
Cox is not a run stuffer even in the 4-3 Paulman…Cox needs to play with a big nasty DT who can collapse the pocket and leave him one on one…this is the Eagles biggest need on defense…and big, nasty DT who can anchor the middle of the defense and allow Cox to be a disruptive force in the backfield…allow him to penetrate…
I agree they threw away Graham and Cox when they insisted this is the defense they want to run. But I think Graham would be the better player for Miami. I think he still has PB potential. Jordan is a great athlete but he’s a punk. He will be average in the NFL. So glad Miami jumped us. I would much rather have Johnson.
You really think Brandon Graham has Pro-Bowl Potential??
Are you feeling ok Jbird??..
I don’t know who I rather have but every scouting report I read on cox coming our was great motor moves great for his size and excellent pass rush ability. I say get rid of him now while he still has some value you keep in this 3-4 he is just gonna waste and yes Paulman if we were running the 4-3 will curry and graham on edges and a big dt next to cox yes I feel like he can be an 8-12 sack guy every year.
It’s not happening with Cox or any other DE playing the 5 Technique in a 3-4 Scheme .. Check the Sack Stats for the Ravens,Steelers,Patriots,Jets,Packers DE’s in a 3-4 Scheme over the Years and you will find that their main responsibility is to set the edge, hold the line of scrimmage and tie up the OT’s so that the blitzinq,quicker OLB’s can get in for the Sacks…
If Cox was playing a DT Full time in a 4-3 – then I would agree that he could get 8-10 Sacks, but it’s not he’s speciality, he’s was known out of College as a penetrating Run Stuffer from the DT who get get a push up the middle of the Offense .. Similar to let’s say a Star Lotuleie,Cullen Jenkins type who are known as run stuffer’s and penetrator’s, not sack producer’s .. Thats for the OLB’s to get or strictly Pass-Rushing DE’s to get like a Trent Cole,Chris Clemons and hopefully a Vinny Curry whose one job is to get after the QB.. .
Exactly Paulman that’s what I’m saying he’s never gonna get those stats in this 3-4 defense so why keep him to be an below avg run stuffer.
There are no 3-4 DE’s in this Draft that will get Double Digit-Sacks either Gloomy.. Keep Fletcher Cox thru his Rookie Deal and Draft a Replacement
Eagles should have addressed the DL in Free-Agency with Lamarr Houston
or even signed a Jared Allen or Pass-Rusghing OLB Shaun Phillips to a 2 Year Deal, but that’s not how they operate .. C’mon Man…