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Roster Decisions For The Eagles

DeMecoRyans1Every dollar counts; and there are some creative ways to approach and manage the salary cap in the NFL.  It’s not you or I writing the check or picking the players, we have plenty of advice if Howie or Chip cared to listen.  So what do we know already, and what exactly lies ahead?

There are plenty of questions that will be answered in the upcoming months.  Examining the current roster, decisions will need to be made with who stays, goes, resigns and renegotiates their contract.

Do you lock Maclin up for the next five years after watching what he could do in the Chip Kelly offense?  He had a heck of a season after sitting out all of 2013.  If Chip says he needs Maclin, even with the injury history, is that all it takes with the new roles of hierarchy?

Walking the thin line of asking veteran players to restructure their current contract goes on in every NFL organization, and several big names could be asked to re-do their deal.  One can really only speculate how this effects the player being asked the question or the morale in the locker room, especially with how the Eagles have done some of their deals over the years.

Is a running back like McCoy going to take a pay-cut knowing the shelf life of running backs, seeing the market price for running backs in the league today, really hard to imagine that he would agree to it.  A guy like Cole who is aging or someone like Celek who is willing to play any role the team asks of him, I could see both redoing their deal.  Does a guy like Ryans need to, “nope.” When the head coach tells the media that he wants you back next season, focus on the rehab, Chip loves you.

I think it’s safe to say Graham, Fletcher and Williams are gone.  James Casey has to be in the mix as well, maybe Marcus Smith can work his way into “special team” packages next season.  I would love to send Cooper packing, cut his hair on the way out, but he seems to have a really strong bond with the coach, maybe they share a love for music, omelets or Lifetime movies.

I like Thorton, but I would understand if he was not back.  Cox and Kendricks is where I would spend my money in terms of locking up some of the younger players.

I’m looking at the free agent list; this is where I’m rebuilding my secondary.  I want a strong safety and a minimum of two cornerbacks, all coming from good organizations as proven starters.  I’ll sign my next tier players to add depth to the offensive line, linebacker core and back-up QB, but I’m not shying away at spending for the secondary. Enough with the mediocre safeties who are a liability, no more cornerbacks who can’t turn their head around when the football is in the air, get guys who can solidify the secondary.  Our front seven can be that much better if this area is approached properly.

Looking early at the incoming draft class, maybe the corner from Michigan State in round one, but chances are we would have to trade up for him with the depth at the secondary position.  Offensive line and defensive line is the shining star in a decent draft class, an area to build for the future but I wouldn’t consider devoting a first round pick to.

There are good pieces in place, but a lot of work needs to be done to elevate this team to the next level.  Some believe Foles can get the job done, I like the kid, but the only way I believe Chip can run “his” style of offense is with a different style quarterback.

Chip has all the control, it’s not surprising but whether it’s good or not is yet to be determined.

The NFL calendar has all of the important dates for when the Eagles can officially alter their roster.  Until that time, it’s on us to do the scouting of free agents, college prospects and anything else that could improve our chances of a successful 2015 season.

 

 

 

Jeff Kolsky

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seansyh
seansyh
January 9, 2015 10:05 am

Graham, Casey, Williams, Fletcher, and Evan Mathis are all notable player who will not play for this team next year. Wouldn’t blow me away if Sanchez was re-signed unfortunately.

They can entice McCoy to redo his deal if they can convert some of his money owed into a signing bonus which would give him more immediately cash upfront while saving the team a couple million dollars of cap space. Just a thought. Otherwise the he will not be in the teams plans next offseason

seansyh
seansyh
January 9, 2015 10:28 am
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Mathis was almost traded in the offseason last year and we have a bunch of younger, less injury prone players. I think if we could get a 4th for him and get rid of his 6 million dollar contract the eagles would do it. The guy isn’t getting any younger

seansyh
seansyh
January 9, 2015 10:29 am
Reply to  seansyh

Only made the pro bowl because of his name and the team he’s on. Not because he out played the other guards even when he returned from injury he was questionable.

seansyh
seansyh
January 9, 2015 10:30 am
Reply to  seansyh

he great with the media and the fans but his play is declining

jphalines
jphalines
January 9, 2015 10:47 am
Reply to  seansyh

Mathis fits this system and is a bit overpaid, but there is no depth at O line on this team. Gardner was clearly over matched every week. They need use some late round picks to get some youth. Looking to draft athletic lineman late can and must be done this year.

seansyh
seansyh
January 9, 2015 10:57 am

Also, I believe that we will aggressively pursue Mariotta in the draft and here’s why: (read before you criticize)

This whole Chip/Howie Roseman power shift has proved one thing… Laurie values Chip Kelly being our coach over any other position in this organization. If you think Chip Kelly is going to go into the season with Nick Foles as his quarterback, likely win 8+ games, not win a superbowl, then be doomed drafting in the bottom third of the draft again, missing out on a top prospect, you are wrong. If Nick Foles has a solid season next year, he would almost certainly earn a multi-year contract and Chip would then be married to Foles until Chip’s contract is up in 2018. If Foles is still the quarterback of this team at that time, Chip will leave to go back to college and Laurie’s “Keep Chip At All Costs” plan will have failed.

This is the draft where Chip finally has the opportunity to get “his guy” and if Laurie is consistent with his offseason actions, he will allow Chip to do what ever it takes to draft this kid. He is the model of what Kelly wants a quarterback to do in his offence (solid arm, quick decision maker, excels in uptempo offense, athletic.) Also, Mariotta is in the National Championship game this year, and probably could have been in the National Championship last year if he didn’t get at the end of the season. He has dominated college football the last 2 years running the same up-tempo offense the Eagles run in the NFL. Chip is going to aggressively pursue Mariotta and is probably praying he messes up in one of his predraft workouts so he doesn’t have to give away what it takes to move up to #1.

My last point: if you’re so concerned about giving up 3 first round picks, ask yourself this question. When was the last time the Eagles drafted a bonafide ELITE player in the first round? The answer…. Donovan McNabb 16 years ago. And really besides him, the Eagles haven’t drafted a top notch player in the first round in 25 years. Heres a list of the guys since Donovan.

2000: Corey Simon
2001: Freddie Mitchell
2002: Lito Shepperd
2003: Jerome McDougle
2004: Shawn Andrews
2005: Mike Patterson
2006: Broderick Bunkley
2007: No 1st Round Pick
2008: No 1st Round Pick
2009: Jeremy Maclin
2010: Brandon Graham
2011: Danny Watkins
2012: Fletcher Cox —- very good, but not elite (JJ Watt, Vonn Miller)
2013: Lane Johnson
2014: Marcus Smith

Group any 3 of those guys together and you’re telling me you wouldn’t trade them for a potential franchise quarterback?

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 9, 2015 11:19 am
Reply to  seansyh

andrews, cox, maclin and johnson are pretty good- but your point is well taken-
I still contend that ‘chips kind of guy’ thing is a bit overblown– the guy has had every opportunity to bring in more mobile qb’s and never has done it.

I know he thinks the draft is a crapshoot so for him to give up a bunch is no big deal…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 9, 2015 11:33 am
Reply to  haveacigar

I agree with what you are saying HAC, but at the same time, none of the mobile QB’s he has had the chance to bring in are nowhere close to Mariota’s skill level. Chip did say that Mariota was the most skilled football player he has ever coached and that he (Mariota) would be successful no matter what he did in life, (banker, business man, etc). I think there is serious thought being put into the possibility of getting Mariota, I think that temptation is there for Chip. We will find out in 111 days…lol.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 9, 2015 11:44 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

i heard that quote several times… i did not hear the part about skill level– i only heard the part about what kind of kid he is.
i just had a thought…remember when ditka gave his whole draft for williams (who the eagle fan dummies wanted) he said ‘i’m done for the day, i’m off to play golf’– well chip doesn’t play much golf!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 9, 2015 9:22 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Not much golf, but honing those acting skills though with those tostitos commercials…lol.
Ditka gave up the whole draft, a trade would not require picks 3-7. Yes, Chip would still have work to do on days 2 and 3.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 9, 2015 9:27 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Whatever… Does it really matter…to move from 20 to 2…. I don’t think a comparable trade has been made?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 9, 2015 9:48 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

With the way Chip talks, he’s like you, and maybe Ditka more than you think. Chip saying it doesn’t matter what round you draft your guy, as long as you get him tells me he is not concerned about draft picks that much. His approach sounds rather cavalier, he does not adhere to the traditional values placed on picking players in rounds they are projected to get selected in based off of performance, measurable, character, and medical history. Chip may say “F” it…I want my guy.

dtime
dtime
January 9, 2015 11:36 am
Reply to  seansyh

Ok, Let’s look at the first pick quarterbacks picked over the past 10 years. For every Andrew Luck there is a David Carr.

2001 M Vick
2002 D. Carr
2003 C. Palmer
2004 E.Manning
2005 A. Smith
2007 J. Russell
2009 M. Stafford
2010 S. Bafford
2011 C. Newton
2012 A.Luck

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 9, 2015 12:14 pm
Reply to  dtime

1 SB winner in Eli
1 Big potential in Luck

So 2 “very good” QBs

2 never lived up to the hype in Vick and Newton
2 super overrated frat boy turnover machines in Palmer and Stafford

I wouldn’t want any of those 4 ’cause you’re never winning in the playoffs with them

1 Semi-competent starter in Smith (no chance to win anything)

3 absolute busts.

Some of you clowns going to give up 4 first rounders for a what? In this case 10% chance of a SB winner? 20% chance of a player that gives a team a chance.

Go back to those 200-2004 drafts? Do the Eagles make the SB without Sheppard, Simon, Andrews and fabulous Freddie? Doubtful.

seansyh
seansyh
January 9, 2015 12:22 pm

A major reason why a lot of quarterbacks are successful in college and not in the pros is the system they are coached into and their skill set not matching.

Mariotta to the Eagles is the perfect QB system match.

seansyh
seansyh
January 9, 2015 12:24 pm

Also frat boy Stafford and Scam Newton played pretty well in their playoff games last week so don’t give up on them quite yet

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 9, 2015 12:32 pm
Reply to  seansyh

yes they did… i think the poiint is that a lot has to go right for a team to win a SB– A LOT!– but along with really solid qb play you need so much depth and talent all around the field– you need your third rounders to have an impact, your 7th rounder to play ST etc– QB is a crap shoot and the list of full fledge busts outweigh the full fledged studs taken in the top 5 or 10…
while mariotta is a ‘system qb’ seemingly right for chips system… you wonder if chip believes the college system without modifications is right for the pro game– he has been damn successful with statues back there!

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
January 9, 2015 9:04 pm
Reply to  seansyh

Excellent and reasonable argument

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 9, 2015 9:19 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Except for the fact that it’s idiotic

tua14768
tua14768
January 11, 2015 1:00 am
Reply to  seansyh

@Sean. I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. The Eagles have not done well with first round picks in recent years. I also feel Mariota may be Chip’s guy. However, I am nervous given up that much for one guy when there are other needs the Eagles should be focused on.

We need a secondary,younger guys on the offensive line and need outside linebackers. The only secondary player listed turned out to be a pro bowler (Shepard). Additionally, outside of Watkins, the other two offensive linemen (Andrews and Johnson) were solid selections. In fact, if you go back to the draft before Donovan, we drafted Tre Thomas who was a solid offensive lineman pick as well.

I wouldn’t be upset if they went after Mariota, I am just not certain the Eagles should do that with the other needs especially in the secondary and a need at outside linebacker (Cole – old, Graham – may not be here, and Smith – just not good).

jphalines
jphalines
January 9, 2015 11:00 am

McCoy is a great back, but don’t think so much money is best used on him. His contract has him here next year, but I see it as his last year. The financial and locker room hit is too much to let McCoy go this year. This offense needs a back to hit the hole hard or make just 1 cut and go. The running plays have to be positive gains to keep the chains moving and continually build momentum. McCoy’s “dancing” behind the line doesn’t seem to fit the scheme in my opinion.
Sancez’s weak arm also killed McCoy this year. Foles along with Maclin and another burner may help get the running game in gear.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 9, 2015 11:45 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Torry Smith is not a burner Kolsky. If anything hes a poor version of Maclin.

andrew p
andrew p
January 9, 2015 11:12 am

If Mariota drops as some are saying then expect the Eagles to jump, it wouldn’t be three ones either, it would be like Atlantas deal when they jumped from 27 to 7, two 1s n two 2s, I do that in a heartbeat! All these guys on here all hard up worrying about draft picks are the Howie kool-aid drinking followers. Your not building your secondary through the draft. It would take too long if your looking to win now, all you have to do is bring in the right guys, look at the Pats, their secondary was horrible last year, what did they do? They bring in Revis n Browner and now have one of the best secondaries in the league in only one year, that’s how it’s done, let Chip do what it takes to get his franchise QB, he needs that more then anything (see the QBs playimg this weekend)

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 9, 2015 11:24 am
Reply to  andrew p

but most of the qb’s playing this weekend aren’t super high first round picks???
Romo, Brady, Flacco, Rodgers, wilson…
lots of number 1-3 qb picks at home this weekend…LOTS OF THEM!

DCar
DCar
January 9, 2015 11:26 am

Notable 2015 FA’s, in positions of need, by priority-
CB’s- Brandon Flowers, Byron Maxwell, Buster Skrine, Kareem Jackson, Darell Revis, Chris Culliver, Antonio Cromarte, Tarell Brown, DavonHouse,

Safeties- Devin McCourty, Wil Hill (Culture issues :)), Rodney McCloud, Rahim Moore, Da’Norris Searcy, Louis Delmas.

ILB- David Harris, Brandon Spikes, Mason Foster, Rolando McClain.

ROLB- Justin Houston, Jason Worilds, Sean Weatherspoon, Sam Acho, Brian Orakpo, O’Brien Schofield, Jerry Hughes, Pernell McPhee, Jabaal Sheard.

WR- Dez Bryant, Randall Cobb, Demaryius Thomas, Torrey Smith, Michael Crabtree.

OG- Mike Iupati, Clint Boling, Paul Fanaika.

Our FA’s-
Sayonara-
Allen, Fletcher, Matthews, Graham, Maclin, Butt Fumble, Smith, Maehl!

Tender contracts-
Polk & Thornton.

Restructure-
Shady, Cooper, Cole(2 year), Herremans.

Release-
Ryans, Williams, Casey.

FA signings-
CB- 2 of Maxwell*/ Jackson*/ Skrine.
Safety- Moore*, or Searcy.
OLB- Worilds*
ILB- Spikes*, or Foster.
WR- Cobb, or Thomas.

Draft-
1- S Landon Collins/ CB Trae Waynes/ CB Marcus Peters/ ILB Benardrick McKinney, NT Danny Shelton.
2- CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu/ ILB Eric Kendricks/ FS Cody Prewitt/ OLB Dante Fowler.
3- OG Tre Jackson/ OLB Alvin Dupree/ CB Marcus Peters.

DCar
DCar
January 9, 2015 11:32 am
Reply to  DCar

Meant CB Jalen Collins in 1st, not Peters.

DCar
DCar
January 9, 2015 11:40 am
Reply to  DCar

ILB Najee Goode & OLB Travis Long will be back from IR also.

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 11:40 am
Reply to  DCar

Sounds Good DCar,
I let Herremans walk. He’s toast and body can’t hold up
,

DCar
DCar
January 9, 2015 11:48 am
Reply to  paulman

I know paul, but he’d cost $5.2 in cap hit & $2.4 in dead $$$, so I’d bring him back restructured for 2 years, $5M & draft a replacement, since the draft is loaded with O-line prospects.

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 12:34 pm
Reply to  DCar

Herremans Deal pays him $6.33 Million for 2015 with a Hit of $2.4 Million to Cap (Dead $$) if he’s released, so I cut the chord…. He’s won’t be a Starter next Season anyways and to Pay $6.33 Million for a Back-up is Robbery when other areas need to be addressed

I don’t like the idea of bringing back old,veterans with Re-Structured Deals for it hard works out and causes issues in the Locker-Room
If your a Legitimate Super Bowl Contendor like the Pats,Bronco’s,Packers and now the Seahawks, maybe it works
but for a 8-10 Win Team, there is little sense in doing this…
Chip Kelly is in Year #3 of a 5 Year Plan.. His time is now to Completely Re-Shape this Roster in his likeness and to get younger, faster and bigger… His 1st Year Success probably ruined his Plan for any significant changes for Year 2 (last Season) which was a mistake.. Now it’s time to re-build and do away with any Players over 30 (besides Peters/Celek) whose best Playing Days are behind them
Kelly has got the peak out of the Andy Reid Holdovers.. Out with the Old and In with the New…

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 11:38 am

Eagles Currently $20 Million Under the Cap

If Chip Kelly brings back T Cole, T Herremans, D Ryans, J Casey and C Williams at their Current Contract Level’s (Approx $35 Million in 2015 Salary)
then the Eagles are doomed and the Chip Kelly ERA will end after the 2015 Season
If Chip Kelly is truly a long-term Coach for the Eagles then he will make the Proper and yes Difficult Decisions to Release the 5 Players above and save about $28.5 Million off the Cap to go along with the approx $20 Already which Gives the Eagles $48.5 To rebuild this Secondary and add an OL and WR

I let J Maclin, B Graham, B Fletcher and Nate Allen all walk

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 12:55 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Do you really see a Cobb leaving QB Rodgers or a Thomas leaving Peyton Manning with a real chance for Super Bowls the next couple of Years for the Eagles and Nick Foles and whoever else at QB?? Really ….
DO you know how funny this Sounds…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 9, 2015 11:42 am

2015Eaglehaslanded Draft
Pick 1 Kevin White WR WVA 6’3″ 209
Pick 2 Qinten Rollins CB (Miami) Ohio 6’0″ 203
Pick 3 Jaquiski tart SS Samford 6’1″ 218
Pick 4 Max OLB Valles 6’6″ 240 Virginia
Pick 4 Laken Tomlison G 6’3″ 320 Duke
Pick 5 James Vaughters ILB 6’2″ 254 (Think Jeremiah Trotter skill and physicality)
Pick 6 Brandon Bridge QB 6″5″ 225

DCar
DCar
January 9, 2015 11:58 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Eagles, not as bad as other mocks I’ve seen, but not that great either. IDK if Valles & Vaughters last at those spots. If they handle FA the way they need to, the way I’ve proposed, that draft could be ok.

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 12:26 pm
Reply to  DCar

I like it EHL…
As DCar noted, if Eagles actually address the LB/Secondary in Free-Agency, then your Mock above good be a great as most of these Players will take 1-2 Seasons to be groomed ..

Kevin White and Tart could probably Play Year #1
the Others will need some time

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 9, 2015 12:35 pm
Reply to  DCar

I am just slotting Vaughters and Valles where they are ranked right now, by the time the combine is over, they will probably move up. You know how it is though, we will do a million of these things. But these are the guys that I really like!

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 9, 2015 12:40 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Chip Kelly to star in 10 quirky Tostitos chip commercials. Look for him on super bowl Sunday….. lol

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 9, 2015 12:42 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Tostitos – NOT Kelly is the official CHIP of the NFL…

mhenski
mhenski
January 9, 2015 12:46 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

pretty embarrassing if you ask me. dude seems to be a whole lot of drama.

saying he wants to go to nfl, then backs out.

interviewing for eagles hc job, turning them down, then agreeing

saying when he was hired he doesnt want to be a gm and call all the shots, now he wants/has full control

so while chip is setting aside time to evaluate college players, evaluate free agents, make front office hires, make trades, pick guys in the 3rd round that will be there in the 7th and he still has time to do commercials?

when were these commercials filmed? from the timing of their release its possible during the season?

this guy is a show and im starting not to like him one bit and i dont trust him at all

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 9, 2015 12:50 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Some of them are pretty funny. Chip might be the next Payton Manning… lol

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 12:53 pm
Reply to  mhenski

He’s an Amateur and belongs back in College if you ask me
I didn’t like the Hiring 2 Years ago and don’t like it now..
This is Sink or Swin in Year #3 which means he will bring all these Older,Overpaid Veterans Back limiting their Ability to get Younger,Bigger and Faster as he promised when he Took over

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 9, 2015 1:09 pm
Reply to  mhenski

thats what i like about you paul…talk in definitive absolutes and then change to a complete opposite definitve absolute in a few days…

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 3:07 pm
Reply to  mhenski

A few Days HAC, how about in 30 minutes…
But in all seriousness, I am not a big Chip Kelly Fan, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt and have to support for I have no other choice, but he needs to make the tough and difficult decisions these next 90 Days to prove to me that he’s committed to building a long-term Successful Team and is planning to remain an Eagles HC thru his Contract..

If Kelly brings back old Veterans, signed Overpaid, again Free-Agents and adds no real youth in Free-Agency and tries to think he’s Going “All-In” for 2015 Season well he and the Eagles and Us Fans will be on the short end of the Stick again

What he does with T Cole, D Ryans, T Herremans, C Williams & J Casey will tell me where he’s heading and whether he’s strictly a Short-Termer .. and if he brings theses aging Players back at their Current Salaries, then the Eagles are F’d thru 2016 at least

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 9, 2015 11:41 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Paulman isn’t a Kelly fan when the tide is against him when the tide goes the other way he flip flops like a jackass.

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 12:18 am
Reply to  mhenski

I was Critical all Season of Chip Kelly
From his Draft, to his 53 Man Roster,
To carrying only 2 Healthy RB’s for the first month of Season
(When Polk was recovering) and Carrying 4 TE’s
From his Game Plans …
Year #3 is it for him.. And right now, it doesn’t look
So Good for him or the Team

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 9, 2015 1:07 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

that will be hilarious! i can’t wait!

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 9, 2015 1:35 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

He is allowed to have some fun. Damn let him live drafting guys and looking at free agents shouldnt consume his entire life. Geez maybe in his spare time instead of doing tostito adds he can get free agent and draft tips from us knuckleheads on Gcobb. SMH.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 9, 2015 1:43 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

yeah i remember watching mike golic and he said that on like a tuesday after a tough loss he was out grocery shopping with his wife and a fan approached him and said ‘shouldn’t you be studying tape’– people tend to think that 24\7 365 is literal!

mhenski
mhenski
January 9, 2015 2:01 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

thats chips job now. thats what he is paid to do… the guy wanted full control now he has it. WORK! DO YOUR JOB!

fucking idiot was trying to take 6th rounders in the 3rd. this guy is a side show, seems overmatched for doing anything besides coaching, has an ego the size of north america.

its getting scary.

if yall disagree, cool. i wish i wasnt scared of this guy

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 9, 2015 2:05 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

so not doing a commercial will somehow make him worse? better? what? I don’t get it…
do you really think that a workahollic coach doesn’t have time for a few hours on a saturday afternoon to do something like this? really?
he along with 06% of the others work as close to 24/7 as possible–the scouts put together different packages of tape, data etc– they whittle it down– come on man

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 9, 2015 2:06 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

that was suppossed to be 95%– i was typing w/o my readers! LOL

mhenski
mhenski
January 9, 2015 2:12 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

he just shouldnt be worrying about negotiating deals for commercials, taking at least a day to film them all…

not to mention wouldn’t tostitos be against his whole nutrition program?

and by all accounts chip is not listening to scouts… apparently last year he did it all himself with the help of coaches…

point is dude was soooooo far off last year and tried taking guys way ahead (roundsssssss) of where they were supposed to…

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 2:56 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Reports are that these 10 Commercials took 3 Separate Shoots
on the Following Dates

Friday 12/5 (Before the Seahawks Game)
Friday 12/12 (Before the Cowboys Game)
Friday 12/19 (Before the Redskins Game)

Tom Gamble was supposed to be in Charge of the Overall Practices and Walk-thru’s which is probably why he’s Gone now

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 9, 2015 3:25 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Hey if this is something that upsets you as a fan certainly is your right…. I think it’s a bit overboard but ..
I just heard an excerpt from one on WIP …sounds pretty funny.
His ability as a drafter is independent of a couple stupid commercials… As for him taking time to negotiate with them etc… Too funny, his agent does that, chip shows up shakes the directors hand, says his line and says good bye…

mhenski
mhenski
January 9, 2015 3:41 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

“Too funny, his agent does that, chip shows up shakes the directors hand, says his line and says good bye…”

I would bet my last dollar that is not 100% true. I guarantee Chip is there negotiating everything with him, from compensation to the shade of lipstick he will wear…

commercials are pretty funny

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 9, 2015 3:44 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Henski whatever…

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 9, 2015 11:43 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Exactly Big.

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 8:33 pm

Rumors about Eagles discussing a Deal
To include McCoy & Foles to Tampa Bay
For their 2nd Over Pick which the Eagles wiul also give up
High Future Picks.
Looks like Sanchez will be resigned to be the Starter QB in 2015
While Mariotta waits in the wings for 2016..
Eagles go 7-9 in 2015
And Then 5-11 in 2016
Good Times indeed for Eagles Fans…

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 9, 2015 8:49 pm
Reply to  paulman

Fraudman delusions

Stevo
Stevo
January 9, 2015 9:50 pm

In Chip I trust. If he wants to go and get his Qb because the last 2 are turnover machines… Fine by me. We haven’t drafted first round talent well at all. The key will be.. You guessed it.. D!! They need 2 starting Cbs and a SS. As I say every year… We will score a ton of points with these qbs… But we need a solid D.

paulman
paulman
January 9, 2015 9:57 pm

New Reports have Chip Kelly offering the GM
Position back to Howie Roseman since Chip has little
time or due diligence for Player Personnel & Salary Cap Issues

jbird
jbird
January 10, 2015 12:34 am

Awesome article Jeff! Not really. You said a whole bunch of nothing. But generally I like your work. Where’s the plan? First, I am going to sound like the longest running broken record ever, but….Trent has to go. I am not wasting five or six million on him next year. I have said it all before. Nice player. Not great. Fades down the stretch. Never comes up with the big sack to end that last drive. What the fuck was he thinking when he bit like crazy on the fake that ended the season? That was as egregious as anything Fletcher did all year!! I think Russell Wilson is still running down I95 right now. He is in Miami by now! Nice move dude. You were in charge of contain!!!!! Thanks for the memories. If you watch metrics, Graham has always been a better pass rusher. I would bring him back to start at the right price. If someone wants to give him 5 years and 29M then good for him. But I would bring him back on a team friendly incentive laden contract for three years. Trust me when I say, he will be the next Chris Clemmons when he leaves. Cox show him the money. Kendricks, low ball him. I love him but he didn’t play enough and his absence really hurt when we needed him early this year. His calf cost us a playoff spot. Offer security and see if he wants to do a Maclin and bet on himself. If he stays healthy he is worth every penny if we have to re-sign him AFTER his rookie deal is up. I would do the same with Foles. Ryans is not even going to be ready for camp. He is getting a pay cut for sure IF we bring him back. He is quietly under rated and a hell of a leader. I would bring him back for around $3 M. He is hurt and doesn’t have many options. His replacement needs to be groomed. Celek can stay with a pay cut. Ditto Cooper since he will be a back up. If Todd comes back next year, I am fucking done!!! He has sucked for three years! Good bye!! Casey….BYE!! Maclin is tricky. I am not giving him the D Jack 5/50 deal because I don’t think anyone else will. I will wait him out and match the best offer and see if he REALLY wants to be here. I would give him three years for $25M with incentives that could be more. Williams and Fletcher and Allen obviously need to be gone. WOW!! I have just freed up a bunch of money and we were already 80M under the cap!! Now we can shop!

jbird
jbird
January 10, 2015 12:40 am

I forgot the greatest back up corner in HISTORY!! Brandon Boykin. You should be a starter. That was obvious when you couldn’t stop Seattle’s mediocre slot WR and when Beasley toasted you all night and when Roberts toasted you. Great stretch run dude. Shut the fuck up and show me you even deserve to be my NB next year!! Don’t even come in my office this winter! You came up smaller than small! We can talk in January if you can show me something in your last year.

jbird
jbird
January 10, 2015 1:09 am

Now for the shopping. This the best part of being an Eagles fan. If you want to know which divisions will get better next year just see who we play. The NFC South will be great as Carolina matures, Brees makes a final run and Atlanta gets a coach to breathe some life into them and Tampa gets the first pick. That’s our luck. AFC East. Miami and Buf up and coming. We will struggle with Jets defense. And then the usual loss at NE. What positions will be the worst in FA?? The ones we need of course. The S, ILB and CB crop is thin. We have to go hard for Brandon Flowers. Cromartie is too risky. As far as SS, I would take a chance on Rahim Moore. But if Belichek wants to fuck around, I would open up the checkbook for McCourty. The best FA move might be the least obvious. Herremans has to go. Peters and Mathis will continue to decline and Lane Johnson has yet to live up to his billing. We run and that’s what we do. To counter balance the deterioration of Peters and Mathis and to put some bang back into the run game, I would sign Iupatti (who I wanted before SF snagged him and we settled for Danny Watkins). We would be unstoppable at running the football and the passing game would flourish. Oh and maybe we could play that excellent TE that “can’t block” since we wouldn’t need him to do that. The WRs are fine if we bring back Maclin and start Mathews. Mathews will be a star soon. He had a lot of pressure on him this year and he will only get better in year two. Huff and Cooper are fine back ups if you start Ertz. Re-sign Sanchez as the back up.

jbird
jbird
January 10, 2015 1:16 am

The draft is too far off but I would not mortgage the future on Mariota even if we could. Lovie might fall for it if we dangled Shady but I wouldn’t do it. Carroll (who inexplicably could not get on the field this year) should start opposite a good FA and draft a CB in the first if he is there. I would move up a bit for Landon Collins if he slips. I would consider a trade down for Denzel Perryman from the U depending on how things play out.

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 1:28 am
Reply to  jbird

Good Stuff JBird…

Stevo
Stevo
January 10, 2015 1:37 am

Pretty much with you bird.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 10:01 am

To all you draft geeks, a question about mariotta . He has been very successful in a very specific system. Almost like back in the day when QBs win heisman running the wishbone… What is his value to a team that doesn’t run the read option? Don’t you think there are a limited number of teams that will value him?

mhenski
mhenski
January 10, 2015 10:44 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Well only one team offered him a scholarship – Oregon- so that tells me his talent has never been off the charts. Eagles have a real chance here so it seems

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 4:19 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Marriotta played HS Ball in Hawaii which is not known
As a hotspot for Football Talent
I see him as an Alex Smith Type of QB at the NFL
Once he learns to operated under Center and out of the Pocket
He’s smart,athletic accurate but lacks a true NFL
In my opinion.. He’ll make plays with his legs at times but will
Not last long-term at 210lbs if he takes too many hits as no QB does..
He seems like a good kid & Teammate but more of a
Game manager than making big pass plays down the field

mhenski
mhenski
January 10, 2015 4:22 pm
Reply to  paulman

You would think Alex smith is like the greatest qb in the nfl the way people reference him daily.

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 4:32 pm
Reply to  mhenski

He’s the quinticential good guy..
Solid Player, good Leadership but simply lacks the “arm”
To make NFL Defense have to defend the entire field..
Another Matt Hasselback,
We saw this year with Mark Sanchez lack of a deep ball does for the
Eagles Offense..
Mariotta was/is a great Fit for the College game
But I am not sold he will be effective at the NFL
Level playing for Chip Kelly or any other Team
NFL Defenses can prepare a whole lot easier and shrink
The field vs QB’s who don’t possess a big arm..
I don’t see a whole lot of difference between the arm strengths
Of Mariotta & Sanchez to bd honest..

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 4:39 pm
Reply to  paulman

In a nutshell, just because Mariotta runs a very similar System
At the College Level vs College Defenses does not mean that
It will translate to success at the NFL..
Chip knows that the “Deep Ball” or at least the threat of the Deep Ball is Needed at the NFL vs NFL Defenses which is where Foles & Eagles Offense flourished in 2013, but stagnated in 2014 with Sanchez Arm and the loss of deep threat D-Jax

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 10, 2015 11:30 am
Reply to  haveacigar

He has to throw at the combine so that teams can see if he can make all the throws, personally I wouldn’t draft him if I had a traditional offense because he’s never played under center, he’s only had to read one side of the field and the big one is can he make the correct pre snap reads that traditional QB’s need to make. Having said that if the Eagles wouldn’t have to mortgage the future I wouldn’t have a problem with Kelly going after him. Specific talent for a specific system.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 10, 2015 12:14 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

He has been groomed for the Eagles type of system. If his skills were honed in college to be an under the center traditional QB, he would be fine doing that. His mechanics, muscle memory and knowledge of the QB position is all geared towards being that read option QB. It’s not that he can’t be a traditional guy, skills can be taught and retaught. He has the ability, physically and mentally, as well as the right attitude and work ethic, from what I hear anyway to be successful. However, it would take more time for him to become a good traditional QB because he would have to unlearn what he knows and break out of the physical mechanical habits he has developed as a read option QB. He then would have to learn the nuances and intricacies of being an under the center QB.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 1:15 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I used to hear that about wishbone QBs ….

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 10, 2015 3:04 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

I used to hear that about wishbone QB’s…..All of them, or some of them?

I think Chip would agree with me.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 3:17 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Can’t remember any who lit it up in the pros… However there weren’t any teams in the pros running the wishbone.
Marriotta is one of the most interesting high profile draft choices to come out in quite some time… More interesting than tebow. I have only seen him in two games and he obviously runs the duck offense great…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 10, 2015 3:29 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Mariota would flourish with Chip Kelly, I don’t know if he would with a traditional system or coach that runs a traditional system.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 3:34 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

That eagles landed is the conventional wisdom….

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 4:23 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

I doubt very much that Mariotta/Winston participate
In Passing Drills at the Combine.. In recent Years all the Top QB’s
Sit that portion out for they have more to lose than to win,
By participating..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 10, 2015 10:59 am

I read the Eagles are going to interview some guy who heads the scouting dept of the Seattle Seahawks, which seems to me like a good idea.

Quick, Eagleshave landed and Paul, tell me who is going to badmouth the Eagles to him before he gets here!

Joe Banner?
Andy Reid?
Tom Heckert?
The dishpig at Pat’s steaks?

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 11:30 am

Probably Jeff Lurie’s New Wife’s Brother
Who lives in Seattle and is not very fond of Owner Jeff at all

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 11:35 am
Reply to  paulman

His name is Peter Wong, I believe…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 10, 2015 11:50 am

OK Vinny, I’ll take the bait….I don’t know, if the guy calls Joe Banner…definitely. If he calls Andy Reid, he’ll get the good and the bad. I never said anything about Heckert so I don’t care about him.

For the record….it is Eaglehaslanded. Once again, reading is fundamental. Here let me break it down so it’s not to difficult for you. I will make it idiot proof ! Eagle – has – landed (Got it). Not Eagleshave landed…no idea where you got that from.

Question for you? Who is going to be Nick Foles’s personal jockstrap care taker?
vinnietheevictor?
vinnietheevictor?
vinnietheevictor?
or…..wait for it..wait for it…vinnietheevictor?

I personally think you are more than qualified for the job. The pay is kissing Nick Foles’s ass…but you got that covered already!

Oh BTW…, did Chris Ballard take that Bears GM job he so heavily coveted? Yes, that Chris Ballard who loves the team. Who, that Chris Ballard who worked for the Bears and worked in the community? LMAO…. 🙂 …yes, that Chris Ballard.

According to your sources (voices in your head) he already had the job locked up before the interview. LOL!

Stevo
Stevo
January 10, 2015 5:11 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I miss that guy who wrote all the time about release time and about how chip won’t settle for the Leader in turnovers. Where the hell did that guy go? Oh yea… He lost a bet and got kicked from the site.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
January 11, 2015 7:22 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

LMAO

Stevo
Stevo
January 10, 2015 11:08 am

Anyone from the Hawks, 49ers or Ravens or steelers would be fine by me. We need a guy who can evaluate players on D. We haven’t had that in eons.

andrew p
andrew p
January 10, 2015 11:40 am

Below is the newest candidate to emerge for GM, if you read this you’ll see why he would be perfect, his way is all about getting the coach the players that fit his system, wouldnt have to worry about butting heads, besides that, he’s coming from a system that’s build like ours where the coach brought in his own guy so he already knows how it works. I say get him!
Here are a couple quotes from Fitterer on his drafting philosophy, courtesy of the Seahawks Web site:
“We break down each player from just a pure athletic standpoint at the beginning. We break down their game as it is now. Then we put them through the filter for our team – because we grade specifically for our team, we don’t grade for the NFL. So they have to fit our scheme.
“Pete [Carroll] and his staff have done a great job of telling us what exactly they’re looking for. And then some guys just have such a unique skill set that our coaches are great at adapting and letting players come in. If they think they can make plays, they’ll figure out a role for them. They’ll create a role if they have to.
“The flexibility of this staff is incredible that way.”

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 4:47 pm

Patriots extend Safety Patrick Chung with a 3 Year
$8.4 Million with $3.5 Million of it guaranteed
Which is a head-scratcher..

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 4:48 pm
Reply to  paulman

They also extended RB B Bolden on a 2 Year Deal

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 5:00 pm

Revis = Bradley fletcher? Wow

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 5:08 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Steve Smith took him to school on that fake
Out corner route then turned into a slant route…
I would never sign a big name, aging Free-Agent CB
Like Revis or whomever for $$10-12-15 Million

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 5:14 pm
Reply to  paulman

On e in awhile Paul you make perfect sense.. It’s rare but credit where credit is due

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 5:04 pm

What a Start for the Ravens Offense..
Flacco on fire, getting a ton of time and Patriots
Defense looks slow off the ball thus far..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 10, 2015 5:05 pm

Mariotta Mariotta Mariotta Mariota…..

While we watch the living statue Joe Flacco shred the Partiots D let me remind you all…

Flacco’s 1st playoff game
9 of 23 for 135 0td 0int

Flacco’s 2nd playoff game
11 of 22 for 161 1td 0int

Flacco’s 3rd playoff game
13 of 30 for 141 0td 3 interceptions

Flacco’s 4th playoff game
4 of 10 for 34 yards and an interception

Flacco’s 5th playoff game
20 of 35 for 189 yards 0tds and 2 ints

To review….after the 5th game he’s below 50% for less than 200/game 1 touchdown and 5 interceptions

Game 6 was 50% 1td and 2 ints…

Gmae 15??

11 for 11 for 120 yards 2tds and 0 ints (so far)

The moral of the story???

Patience. Phillyfan sooooo quick to toss someone with talent to the side in hope of the next flashy thing.

Scramblers look great on ESPN. Statues win championships.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 5:13 pm

Patience? What? We had a guy go 14-4 under a coach, throw 27-2 then had a hiccup and the fan base wants his head!

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 5:41 pm

Please stop comparing Foles to Flacco.

Flacco has a pedigree, pocket presence with functional mobility, and is not easily rattled with happy feet, throwing going backwards….

So please stop.

You’ll never hear about Flacco leading the league in turnovers.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 5:48 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Pedigree? That pedigree goes:
1. Could not keep a starting job at Pitt
2. Transfers to division 1AA Delaware
3. Loses in the first few years of the playoffs…terrible playing etc….

You mean that pedigree?

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 5:52 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Was beat out at Pitt by a guy named Tyler Palko… Who I believe is starting against taj Boyd is the flag football championship this week.. FU..pedigree. You get more stupid by the minute

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 10, 2015 5:58 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

You’re dead wrong about Flacco and using transferring as a Mark against him is idiotic. He had some of the best post season numbers of ALL TIME.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 5:59 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Pedigree..18th pick overall in the 2008 draft.

!st round pedigree.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 6:03 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

That said… He really struggled in the playoffs his first couple of years, even with the ravens defense… You have to acknowledge that..
Oh and pedigree refers to your history, upbringing..did I mention that Tyler Palko beat him out as qb?
He NOW has some oft he best numbers.. He didn’t at first! Baltimore stuck with him
As for his transferring.. I’m a UD guy… He is a legend here… I love Tyler Palko

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 10, 2015 6:12 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Actually he was a pretty damn steady as a rookie and the offense was no catered to him. It was simply don’t blow it.

Pedigree from college means Jack shit in the pros. Or every Heisman winner would be awesome and Ty Detmer would’ve been the greatest QB ever.

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 5:55 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

A Short term memory Songs
You must have forgot about Flacco’s Poor 2013
Season where he Threw 19TD’s and had 22 Int’s
And 5 Lost Fumbles and was among the NFL’s
Leaders in Turnovers for the 2013 Season
He also only completed 59% of his Passes

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 6:00 pm
Reply to  paulman

again…he did not lead the league in turnovers.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 6:06 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Actually numb nuts he threw 22 int’s and had a 3.6% int rate in 2013… Try again

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 6:15 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

He had 27 Turnovers in 2013 2nd only to Eli Manning
Isn’t that close enough??
I like Joe Flacco, I’m just saying he had a terrible
season in 2013 which he would be the first to admit and will
Happen time to time over a Career..

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 5:37 pm

Actually Flacco is a bit more athletic than he looks
He moves around to buy time and passes on run pretty well
But your bigger point about patience and having Playoff success
Does take some time.. And you have to make Playoffs first to give you
A shot for success..

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 6:03 pm

For the record…
Ravens Safety Jason Elam has been a disappointment
After being a Top Pick 2 Years ago..
He’s lost his Starting Job and has missed about
3 Tackles out there tonight when he’s in on
Nickel/Dime Packages…
I know many were very high on him out of the Draft
2 Years ago, but I never saw that much in him as
Anything special let alone an impact player at the NFL
Level..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 10, 2015 6:18 pm
Reply to  paulman

Sure you did Paulman. Sure you did

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 10, 2015 6:09 pm

Song and “pedigree”

Everything Songs says – the opposite is true.

Again. Patience is all I am saying.

QB Primes are from 28 to 32/33.

Flacco wasn’t “good” till he hit 29.

If they look decent before that (Foles does) then you have to hang on and see what happens when they’re good.

27 – 32/33 is the window.

Foles turns 26 next week.

Patience!!!

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 6:10 pm

Foles can be flacco

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 6:13 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

get the hell outta here!

Foles is goofy and slow footed.

Holds the damn ball with a slow release.

The only similarities between Foles and Flacco is they’re both white.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 6:24 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

And you are in fact mentally challenged and a racist. You have ignored flaccos turnover stats…you have an agenda… And now for the unspoken truth…you hate Foles because he supplanted your ghetto idol

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 6:11 pm

you would never see Foles throw an anticipation back shoulder throw like that.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 10, 2015 6:16 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Shut up idiot he did and has…clueless idiot.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 10, 2015 6:15 pm

Joe Fn Flacco

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 6:27 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Not newtOn for crying out loud… That’s just stupid

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 6:28 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

Jeff I agree…We could win with Foles if every piece is hitting on all cylinders around him and a top 5 defense but we all know that will never happen, so if we’re looking to win it all then we need a QB that can make plays even when everything else falters.

A Chip QB and secondary help through free agency will make the Eagles immediate contenders.

no more 2nd and 3rd tier patchwork players for the secondary in free agency.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 6:31 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Songs why has chip been here two years and he’s never hired a chip kind of qb? Please explain

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 6:33 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Songs you just described how Wilson and flacco won the SB you stupid idiot

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 6:33 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

I don’t think there’s a Super Bowl in a Chip Kelly Offense without having
Real Deep Threat WR and a Big Arm QB who can get the ball
Down the field.. Dink and Dunk works versus College Defenses and Players, but not in the NFL where You need to have Big-Plays ..

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 6:24 pm

Steelers long-term DC Dick LeBeau has resigned from
The Steelers but says he is not retiring, that he’s just ready for a change
C’mon Chip.. Talk and Hire LeBeau..
Is been no secret that he and Coach Tomlin
Have not seen eye to eye and have grown apart over the Years..
Tomlin’s background is Defense and some thought that he was interfering
Too much into Lebeau’s Game Plans, Schemes etc…

zilents44
zilents44
January 10, 2015 6:29 pm
Reply to  paulman

are you serious pman are you just making up stuff to just troll…..your stories are always dramatic please report only truth….you would think people pay you to make up crazy stories…..and yes I know he has resigned but the stuff you said about him and tomlin I don’t know about that

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 6:38 pm
Reply to  zilents44

LeBeau’s not been happy the last 2-3 Years
Working under and for Tomlin.. This is no secret around
The NFL…

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 6:45 pm
Reply to  paulman

Damn…Chip need to fire Billy Davis and Dick in here right freakin now.

I would rather have him than bum ass Billy Davis because Lebeau can call a great game defensively.

Chip!

Make the call!

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 6:37 pm
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

I agree Jeff…only our Eagles would be playing a 3-4 with 4-3 players.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 6:39 pm

When was the last time you’ve seen a quarterback scramble for a first down and fumble the ball without anyone touching him?

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 6:42 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

The last time I saw it was Foles… Before that I saw Steve young in a playoff game do it and Brett FAVRE do it on a Monday night or Sunday night game… Your point?

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 6:54 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

the difference are those guys you’ve mentioned actually won playoff games and beat winning teams during the season.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 6:59 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Foles is 0-1 you are correct… Terrible.. You asked a question. I answered it… Now you change the question…short bus songs.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 7:01 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Young didn’t start a playoff game till he was 31

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 10, 2015 6:43 pm

Joe Fkn Flacco

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 6:45 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Ha joe fkn flacco the blue hen!

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 6:43 pm

GMCliffa Boy Jaime Collins fell asleep on that TD Swing Pasto Forsett
What was he thinking
On the big 4th Doen Play before
Typical Patrick Chung not getting back to help
How and why Oats extended him is surprising
Pats CB Browner has always struggled on deep routes
and part of the reason the Seahawks let him walk
He’s tough 15 Yards in, get him running down the sidelines
And he’s in big trouble..

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 6:49 pm

Anyone notice that QB Brady has been throwing off target
And “low” on many of his passes tonight..

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 6:51 pm
Reply to  paulman

No!

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 6:55 pm

So ts I give you credit… When proven wrong you move on to another inane and stupid point… You are never right but you keep at it… It’s a real credit to your stupidity

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 7:16 pm

The Panthers is the only team out of the teams playing I would have confidence in “Folds” beating in an elimination game.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
January 10, 2015 7:18 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

The way Panther’s D is playing now they’d eat his lunch.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 7:19 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

you’re probably right.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 7:23 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

You two are incestuous jokes

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 7:24 pm

Running right at wil fork

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 7:27 pm

Want fucking Chung

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 7:36 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Meant to say wang

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 7:35 pm

Patrick Chung looked like he didn’t belong in the league with the Eagles and is now again a key safety ranked 12th amongst all safeties in the league, which reflects poorly on the Eagles defensive coaching staff.

Hell, we probably don’t even know what we have in our corners under this staff because Williams won a Superbowl with New England.

IF it’s the coaches then this team will still struggle in the secondary with new free agents and I wouldn’t be surprised if Revis struggled under this Billy Davis.

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 7:49 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Cary Williams Won a Super Bowl with Ravens

Stevo
Stevo
January 10, 2015 8:13 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

He was a #3 Cb with the Ravens you dope. They let him walk because his mouth was not worth the trouble. If I’m the Eagles… Williams stays and fights to get on the field.

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 7:45 pm

Boy this Ravens CB #38 (Melvin) makes Bradley Fletcher
Look like a Pro CB and gave up 4-5 Plays with missed Tackles
On the Pats last Drive.. Just brutal to watch a CB
Who is playing with no confidence and poor fundamentals
At thick stage of the Gams in the Playoffs

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 7:49 pm

we’re actually looking at franchise type QB’s here.

Guys like, Brady,Luck, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Romo, Manning….

These are the type guys needed to win this time of year yet guys here talk that Foles shit!

Who have confidence Foles can win against this guys?

A matter of fact the Eagles will show us what they feel when Foles go into the season on a rookie money contract competing for the starting spot.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 7:54 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

You do know romo is 34 and has won 2 playoff games right.. . . .?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 10, 2015 8:00 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Romo didn;t start till his 4th year. Didn’t win a playoff game till his 6th year.

Manning didn’t win a playoff game till his 4th year (starting)

Luck didn’t win a playoff game till his 2nd year starting….

But you hate Foles becaue he lost a playoff game after starting less then one season.

Loser.

Idiot.

Ignorant of all thing NFL twit.

Hang your hat on Wilson…the one outlier.

Everything songs says – the opposite is true!!!!!!!!!

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
January 10, 2015 10:13 pm

Get some rest Vinniedaloser…

Your brain is fried!

Foles is no Manning or Luck!

He is no where close to the skill set of either of those QBs

Foles has gotten the shot he deserved and he blew it…he choked up and led the league in turnovers! Then got hurt!

Foles couldn’t beat Vick head up in training camp and most observers say that Sanchez looked better in camp last year…

Foles is not good enough…and he hasn’t done enough to be worthy of waiting around for him with the hope that he can get it done…

We seen enough…he’s not good enough…

Lay down Vinniedaloserass…your washed up

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 7:53 pm

It doesn’t matter who is QB for the Eagles since their Defense doesn’t stop
Anybody…

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 7:54 pm
Reply to  paulman

So, you might as well have a guy at QB who can carry the defense.

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 8:01 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

A who would that be Songs?
Vick, RG3, Mariotta? Your a Joke..

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 8:07 pm
Reply to  paulman

I would take all 3 over goofy ass turnover machine “Folds.”

Stevo
Stevo
January 10, 2015 8:10 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Biased loser

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 7:57 pm
Reply to  paulman

We wouldn’t win with Foles even if the secondary was better the way he turnover the ball and throw on his heels going backwards, hearing footsteps with no one around,throwing errant passes.

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 7:56 pm

How does Pats Safety McCourtey lose TE Daniels
On that 4th Down Play… I’ve seen some crappy Secondary
Play on both sides in this Ravens/Pats Game

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 8:00 pm

Joe Flacco blew this Game
3 Turnovers in the 2nd Half doomed the Ravens

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 8:06 pm

An Exciting Game and Playoff Football
Not sure we’ll see any of this for the Eagles
Over the Next few Years..

Stevo
Stevo
January 10, 2015 8:08 pm
Reply to  paulman

Only thing we can for sure say… Is that you will flip and flop and flip and flop more times than foles and Eli combined until then. Sheesh.

Stevo
Stevo
January 10, 2015 8:09 pm
Reply to  Stevo

*turn it over

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 8:38 pm
Reply to  Stevo

I think Eagles are a good 2 Years away from Playoff Football,
And have lots of Needs,
A Secondary. Aging OL & LB Corp
A pretty average WR Corp and ? At QB

Stevo
Stevo
January 10, 2015 8:43 pm
Reply to  paulman

The Eagles will be in the playoffs this year

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 10, 2015 8:53 pm
Reply to  paulman

Stupid fraudman

Stevo
Stevo
January 10, 2015 8:07 pm

give it a rest already with the Qb talk. Get a secondary in FA. If they can draft a Qb to challenge foles… Great. No one gets handed the starting job. Why would you want him to vinnie? And songs… Why would u not want to see him succeed? I don’t get it… Why do you only root for a player? Be a fan of the damn team. If it’s McNabb.. Vick… Foles.. get behind your team.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 10, 2015 8:13 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Stevo, Foles is who he is and I really believe we’re wasting valuable years with a guy would don’t have what it takes to win it all.

I wouldn’t mind Foles as a stop gap if the starter is injured but he just don’t have it.

There’s many teams Foles can start for like Daulton, Bradford start for their teams but we all know those guys won’t win anything.

I’d rather see the Eagles do whatever they can to get Mariota which will give the fan base hope of winning it all while Shady and this offensive line is still in tact.

Some may say a rookie may take time but a rookie couldn’t be any worse than Foles was this year, so I’d rather have a guy who Chip trusts to run this offense like it was originally designed to run.

Stevo
Stevo
January 10, 2015 8:32 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

It’s b.s. You worshiped Vick… Defended him behind the crap oline.. Blamed the D for not bailing out his every turnover. Vinnie… Bemoaned how a “real” Qb overcomes all of those things and what we needed was a statue who reads as good as noodle arm/head Kolb.

Now…. His guy is in and we have had mixed reviews. We don’t what he is. You two dont realize that you are the same arrogant person just focused on being right. You say you want a guy that chip trust, you don’t know chip neither do I know where does any, he will do what he wants without your permission.

Stevo
Stevo
January 10, 2015 8:35 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Auto correct screwed the ending but you get my rant

paulman
paulman
January 10, 2015 8:15 pm

Now let’s see how Cam Newton handles the 12th Man
And Seattle’s Defense..
If the Panthers can hang around by the 2nd Quarter and withstand the
Initial energy and emotion of the Seahawks out of the gate,
This may be a much closer game than what many people think..
I’m rooting for Panthers but see the Seahawks
Winning 23-16