Nick Foles hinders Chip Kelly from doing his head coaching job. The full arsenal of plays that could be called, well they can’t be without mobility from the quarterback position.
I’m not trashing the current signal caller of the Philadelphia Eagles; give me a moment to explain my point of view. There is a lot to like about Nick Foles. His record as a starter, leadership and respect of his teammates are terrific attributes. His current resume combined with projecting his “potential,” a lot of fans want to see Foles as the starter for the 2015 season and beyond. You will not hear me call him a bad quarterback, but his restrictions are obvious and are costly for an offensive scheme where the ability to run an extend plays as a quarterback is essential for “maximum” success.
Nick is not suited best for why the Eagles went into the direction of hiring the successor of Andy Reid. A large part of what Kelly did in Oregon was the “read option,” and it has since gone from anticipation to almost absent.
Chip came to Philadelphia to do a job, win a Super Bowl. There is little argument to be made that the below average speed and mobility hampers the play selection for the head coach. Why should not being able to maximize potential at the work place be justified?
Settling for anything but all of what Chip can do is something I’m not willing to ignore, I’d rather challenge the idea of what “could be.” Nick Foles was also on the roster that Chip inherited, he “should” get the opportunity to select “his” guy. Vick could be used as a means to argue that we have already seen what a mobile quarterback can do in this offense. I would understand the reluctance and stance people would take that it’s only a matter of time before a running quarterback gets injured. Why risk our future with the steep price it would take to move up in the draft and select a quarterback that could lead us to our first title.
Don’t you want it all? Don’t you want to see the head coach, the guy with all of the power get the opportunity to run every single play that he wants to run?
You see how much better the quarterbacks in the playoffs are compared to Foles. The list of quarterbacks you would take over Foles is more than a dozen long. Foles is average; we need a guy who can do something special.
It can’t happen with Nick Foles. The fear of going “all in” has to be put on hold when the head coach of your team has the ability to get a guy he scouted, groomed, coached at the college level.
If there is “any” chance of him now coaching him at the NFL level, the Eagles must be willing to take the risk.
Boring article! Tired subject. Zzzz. If you’re going to go there then talk about a solution or who you’d go after. Not just pound on Foles.
Stating the “obvious,” Nick is not a running QB, it can’t go away because Chip needs his QB to run for the entire offense to be ran. If this was not a hurry up style, with all of the options built in to the plays, if this was not a run first based scheme, I would not be asking for Nick to give way to a new QB.
Jeff I applaud your willingness to stand up to the obnoxious Foles fans on this thread….the haveablunt, vinnedafool, mdumbski, and many others have viciously attacked you..but the facts are clear
Nick Foles cant fully run Chip’s offense
He’s too slow mentally and physically
he’s a turnover machine
You cant run the read option with him…not only because he is slow but he doesn’t make the correct reads-this happened often when we saw Shady buried for a significant loss because Foles didn’t keep it on the option..
Trade Foles…you may get lucky and get a 4th rounder for him…probably a 5th…and let Chip find a QB that can run the offense…no need in letting Foles be a lame duck with all of the questions and doubts surrounding him…let him go somewhere else and have a shot at maybe getting a new contract as a back up somewhere….he’s a good kid he deserves that much.
You are an idiot! 14-4 without a healthy oline. Check out how well other QBs did after 3 years.
The record don’t tell the whole story when 80 percent of the wins came against sub .500 teams.
He’s not good enough to win in the post season…thats all that matters.
I’m all for improving at each position but I think if you’re going to say something about our current player not being good enough part of the discussion needs to be what can we do or who can we target. So who is that?
Lazy ‘reporting’– just trying to get hot air, songs fired up, vinnie, me defending him…try to get another 1000 posts… this will be my one and only on this thread!
I appreciate your one and only, would love to have it 2, maybe 3 since it’s the new year. You know that Foles is limited, that Chip was coming to this city with a certain style. If free agency can build your secondary and add depth to your LB/OL, and you have pieces in place in your defensive front 7, with a stable but aging offensive line, McCoy in his prime, and a nice mix of WR/TE, why not get the QB that Chip believes would be best.
He is the one making all of the calls, he is the one who has more power this year than last year. Let him get his guy if he feels it’s the differene from a playoff appearence to a possible title.
Thanks haveablunt!! Your contributions to this forum are worthless anyway..
Good thing people come to this site for the discussion and not the articles.
good point antitrust…
this article makes me think jeff is songs and koolbreeze…
“Foles is average; we need a guy who can do something special.”
Jeff is there a qb that has special abilities available? you think indy will trade us luck? Is there a special qb tree Chip can go pluck from? or are you trying to tell us Marriota is special?
I don’t think Mariota is special, I think that Chip Kelly needs a “specialty” QB to run his “system.” The hurry up style, the ability to run as a QB, make of the “throws” Chip considers as “throws” its not what we are use to with a QB.
I knew when Chip came here, things that I felt about football would need to be put on hold at times because his perspective and way that he calls the shots would probably lead me to believe that he thinks this is still college football.
I will not say Nick is a bad QB, I will not say Mariota is special. I will say that what Chip wants to run, at the NFL level, fits perfectly with what Mariota does.
I’ll say it for you Jeff….Nick is a bad QB especially for this system that requires quick thinking, accurate passing, mobility
Nick aint got that…
You make a good point…look at the QB’s that made the playoffs…Foles doesn’t have the skill set of any of them…
Why should Chip Kelly put his eggs in the basket of a guy that it’s pretty obvious now….he doesn’t believe in the guy. Chip has always been lukewarm about him….why do you think he took Vick over Foles when they went for the job head up? If he believed in Foles he would have picked him right from the start.
Let Chip get his guy…use Foles as trade bait to improve the defense…
It’s not up to the poster on gcobb’s site but what Chip deems special.
We’ve seen Foles at his worse and best and everyone here knows his limitations.
Are we here to cheer on guys because they’re nice guys or do we want a Super Bowl?
You are mentally flawed if you think Foles can beat the likes of “the legion of boom” and our offense must be able to overcome that defense and out duel top QB’s during playoff time to get to the big dance.
We should know if Chip’s offense with the full playbook can do this without the signal caller weaknesses hindering the playbook or just fire Chip and hire a West Coast coach.
This offense was a greater threat under Mike Vick but injury hit but that short span of Vick did give us a window into what this offense can be if there’s a QB with that skill set who is heady and have enough sense to slide.
There’s no need in starting Nick Foles if you’re not going to put in an offense that protects him by getting it out of his hands quick like the west coat offense..
The read option takes time to develop on certain plays and that’s counterproductive for a slow quarterback like Foles when the defense crash on the running back knowing the QB is not threat to take it then hurt them with the run.
We want to see this offense run like Oregon and I don’t want to here this injury to the QB stuff here because Nick Foles is a pocket quarterback who is constantly injured.
crazytown
i always thought it was up to you and kool… wow learn something new every day.
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But you’re standing on the wall like you was Poindexter
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But then you ate so much you nearly split your pants
A girl starts walking guys start gawking
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So come on fatso and just bust a move
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You’re on a mission and your wishin
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Some frustration first inclination
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So don’t hang yourself with a celibate rope
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Then ya spot a fine woman sittin in your row
She’s dressed in yellow, she says “Hello,
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You run over there without a second to lose
And what comes next hey bust a move
[Verse 3:]
In this city ladies look pretty
Guys tell jokes so they can seem witty
Tell a funny joke just to get some play
Then you try to make a move and she says, “No way”
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Got no money and you got no car
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Some girls are sadistic, materialistic
Lookin for a man makes them opportunistic
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A girl runs up with somethin to prove
So don’t just stand there bust a move
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Mike Vick, Really Songs…
F’ the Oregon Offense and the Read-Option, it’s Chicken Shit….
Agree, like amateur hour with this latest one…
“They’re Selling the Postcards of the Hanging,
they’re Painting the Passports Brown, the Beauty Parlor is filled with
Sailor’s, the Circus is Back in Town” .. B Dylan – “Desolation Row”
Chip Kelly’s System has not Proven itself to be able to Win versus Good Defense’s.. The Eagles bigger Problem is having a HC who relies on Tempo and Deception, which doesn’t work well versus well-Coached Professional Defense’s. The other big issue with Coach Kelly is that he has no clue about the Defensive Side of the Ball at the NFL Level, by not only hiring but retaining DC Billy Davis for Year #3 just proves this out
Eagles are going nowhere with Chip Kelly as their Coach, and I don’t care who the QB is.. His System is Flawed and hasn’t proven anything yet, outside of pooping out his own Defense..
Paulman your right…but you have to give Chip a chance…he has to have his guy who has the skill set to run his offense. If it means trading off a bunch of first rounders and second rounders to make a bold move for Mariota, if it means drafting a Hundley…whatever Chip needs to do…
He cant stand pat and take a chance on the injury prone, turnover machine Foles.
I Disagree, You Coach and Win with who you have, if it’s not Ideal, then adjust your Schemes Accordingly.. The Top Coach’s do this Year in and Year Out regardless of Injuries, losses in Free-Agency, Suspensions,etc,etc..
Not 1 Player is going to magically make Chip Kelly’s Scheme Work at the NFL Level… Chip needs to be much more smarter and innovative than this…
I am waiting for this special guy.
The guy the 3 amigos dream of.
You know that guy….the extremely mobile, smart, big armed, quick release, defense processing, super-bowl winning, unquestionable leader guy who is available.
Haven’t you all heard of him??
TomSteveKurtJoeBen RoethlessBradyMantanaYoungWarnerburger.
He’ll be available when the Eagles select at 20.
will he be better than the MoreMobileMark Fair&Square fella ?
Well Vinniedaloser….we know who is NOT this special guy
We know this guy…the extremely slow, dumb, average arm, slow release, baffled by defenses, injury prone, no chance at Super-bow winning, questionable leader who we currently have
You know and love him…Nick Foles
He should be on the trading block whenever the Eagles select…pick up a late rounder for him
I think this is a fair and objective article. People need to take their fandom, personal feelings and agendas out of the process when reading this article. There is nothing wrong with looking at Nick Foles with a critical eye. Those who shun anything less than an objective critique need to ask themselves why? Why do these types of stories upset people, do they think these stories pose some type of threat to Foles being the QB? They do not in my opinion, Chip is not on GCOBB reading stories, posts and making personnel decisions based off of them. This story just offers another perspective based off the philosophy of Chips system as well as the reality of Foles’ athletic limitations and how it hinders implementing Chip’s full offensive arsenal.
the critical eye is fine. foles is average, that seems right. for foles to win a superbowl he is gonna need a good defense, a good o line, and good weapons just like rodgers, just like luck just like wilson. all these great qbs need that to happen…
rodgers is widely considered the best in the game, he aint doing it on his own every year….
bottom line is lets talk realistic, mariota aint a savior and there aint no savior qb available this year….
if this was the year luck came out and you mortgage the farm for him fine, but marriota aint a once a decade type talent the guy is a once a year talent maybe a few times a year talent…
just be real instead of acting like a moron thinking mariota is the next superstar qb.. he is the flavor of the offseason just like that stiff manziel was last year…
we want to talk real realistic football solutions to take that next step… and it is way more realistic to talk about how we can help a nick foles led team get better by improving the defense and wr’s and oline… to think some rookie is gonna come in and make us better year 1 is so foolish it makes me shake…
also rg3 is a way better option than marriota, rg3 was an insane qb his rookie year showed stuff never seen before, his accuracy year 1 was insane. he has battled injuries the last two years and it doesnt help having misfit teammates and a spastic owner/gm that makes irrational decisions… gimme rg3 over marriota all day and for half the price. its possible rg3 is damaged goods at this point from his injuries and multiple coaches and tarnished reputation but dude is young and could play pretty damn good his rookie year. id make a deal for him
I don’t think there is a savior, I think Chip’s system is flawed as he likes smaller, faster o linemen who fizzle under the pressure when handling bigger athletic physical linemen. When the team can’t run, the offense fizzles. Until this offense shows that it can beat the 49ers, Seattle types of defenses, it matters not. Chip kelly’s system is flawed, you saw it last night as OSU beat the breaks off of Oregon. 4+ turnovers and could only score 20 points against a strong defense. Red -zone struggles…same philosophy, same system, same struggles.
Chip Drafted one offensive lineman ( Lane Johnson who is huge ) every other starter is a left over.
all the teams resources went to getting bigger wide receivers and changing Defensive personnel from an awful Juan Castillo 4-3 to a 3-4 defense. Every starter Chip has replaced has been a bigger guy.
In Chip’s offense, he says he prefers smaller athletic o linemen. Look at his o linemen from Oregon. His left tackle is 6’6″ 293, center is 6’3″ Hroniss Grasu 6’3″ 297. Chip did say he likes bigger receivers, he also stated that when he said big people beat up little people he was talking bout the defense.
Foles is not a ‘great’ Qb…the argument is flawed
We watched a hurt, immobile Rodgers make adjustments to his game and lead Green Bay to a win over Dallas…He knew how to use his good weapons, he made excellent throws.
This is what great QB’s do
Saying that there are no great QB’s coming out this year doesn’t solve the problem…there are no great QB’s on our roster…
Foles cant run this offense…
We need a Quarterback that can run the offense…NOW
First you said Foles was average and then wen on to say he’s going to need a good defense,oline,weapons, Just like Rodgers, all these great QB need that to happen?
How can you call Foles average then while placing him in the same sentence with great qb’s?
See, that’s where I have a problem there. Stop putting him in that conversation.
We don’t have a great defense or defensive coordinator so we need an exceptional quarterback that can carry the team…..That’s why we are clamoring for someone who can do more than Foles.
Foles compounds the problem.
we know you dont have a ‘critical eye’…mhenski…you dont watch the games Mr Spellchecker…you already told us what to think about your own evaluations when you said
“again full disclosure i dont watch ncaa football for the most part”
C’mon Spellchecker…give us some more ‘disclosures’…LMAO…how about this one
“again full disclosure, my name is mhenski and I am a complete idiot”
LMAO
Hey retard when I said critical eye was that about ncaa qb or nfl qb?
Fuckin retard learn to read.
Speaking of critical eyes you should mike Vicks feces off your eyeballs. You thought Dennis Dixon was our savior then mike Vick then taj Boyd then john Manziel.
Your dumb as fuck and no nothing about nothing except how to suck shitty qbs dicks.
Hey spellchecker-mhenski…say your line…that tells us all we need to know about your ‘critical’ eye…LMAO
“again full disclosure i dont watch ncaa football for the most part”
I know you mad bro…LMAO
shit, fuck, suck, shitty…..
LMAO…Just keep copying and pasting the twitter stuff dumb ass…we already have your disclaimer and know you cant think asswipe…LOL
Last time I tuned in Jeff ,nick foles wasn’t taking snaps on the field…it was mark sanchize…chips guy …another PAC 12 .fraud…let’s address your point that foles is not as good as a dozen other guys in the league ..how about that dirty dozen? Who are they? You totally fail to address that ,CHIP himself ,MAY LACK MOBILITY..his refusal to upgrade everything on his football team..starting with Bill Davis …why not interview available guys ,if not to absorb,new fresh ideas that might persuade you that Bill Davis needs be upgraded..was it foles alone who had red zone issues? NO..they persisted all season long..was it Nick Foles ,who allowed more X plays than any other team in theNFL..Nope..last night set up as a crystal ball…you saw marriota …you want to blow it all up . .id actually contest that Nick Foles is the perfect answer this year ..he’s under contract ,he comes cheap ,and allows you to spend elsewhere …what replacement allows you that ? Go ahead name the dirty dozen …times yours ..
Rodgers, Brady, Newton, Wilson, Kap, Roth, Ryan, Stafford, Romo, Tannenhill, Rivers, Manning (I’ll take him with one good hamstring)
yea give me foles over krappernick he is terrible one of the worst quarterbacks in the nfl HE CANT THROW!!!!!!!!!
tannheill haaaaaaaaaaaa, he cant throw over 30 yards…
newtown over foles hmmmmmm thats close but cam cant throw and isnt a leader so ill take foles… ill take foles over peyton next year too that guy is done…
tannehill has a good skill set and a strong arm plus some mobility. I think Foles has more upside but tannehill is a good QB in the league. we have gone 14-4 when foles has played Because of Foles, not inspite of foles like the fools like to assume. It is proven when you look at Vick/Sanchez (both top 5 picks) led Eagles and how we lose more than we win when Foles is not in there.
The shortest distance between two points is a straight line, the problem with that is Miami Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill can’t throw the ball in a straight line. This has been an Achilles heel for the Dolphins since Tannehill entered the league and the worst part is he not only isn’t getting closer the Dolphins offense are rarely taking the shot downfield. Miami’s offense needs that big play threat to open up the underneath and frankly teams are no longer worried about Mike Wallace.
So what is there to do?
Ryan Tannehill is one of those rare quarterbacks that does so many things right that you can’t help but feel he is a long term franchise solution but his game is stuck between the 0-20 yard range and he does himself no favors by his inability to open the field. The Dolphins have tried a lot of things but it seems that he has had the most success rolling out. I have said for quite awhile now that Tannehill thinks to much instead of just playing the game. He is getting much better in that regard but his long ball still isn’t improving and it’s no longer a timing issue.
What I have noticed is that when Tannehill throws deep Wallace is running the fly route which puts him straight up field in position to out run coverage. It doesn’t matter if it is along the sidelines or down the middle, the route is always the same straight fly, and we know that Tannehill can’t throw that ball. So why not change the route?
After watching film on Tannehill and his throws he plays much better when he can see his target. Hook routes, curls, and into the flat. If he can’t visualize the play he can’t make the play. I see this week in and week out. So why not change Wallace’s route to allow Tannehill to see him?
Wallace is very fast and there is no reason that instead of running a fly route that he can’t break it 20 yards downfield and run to the opposite corner of the end zone. His speed will still make separation but now Tannehill can see his angle, see where he needs to put the ball. It’s the one thing I haven’t seen the Dolphins try deep although they have had success running similar plays at a shorter distance. Tannehill is very good at catching players out of their breaks so why not test it deep to the corner?
It may not work, I honestly don’t know if Tannehill’s problems are visual or mechanical but nothing else is working. We see that to be true each week for the last two seasons. The truth is this is a completely different offense if Tannehill can hit Wallace deep and Wallace will be a helluva lot happier. It’s just a suggestion but one that the Miami Dolphins may want to consider looking at. Let Tannehill “see” Wallace and you take the guess work part of it out.
Ryan Tannehill completed 23-of-39 passes for 259 yards and a touchdown in the Dolphins’ Week 17 loss to the Jets.
Tannehill took a major leap in his first season under OC Bill Lazor, who designed a high-percentage offense and emphasized his quarterback getting rid of the football quickly. Tannehill may always be limited from a deep-ball standpoint, but he progressed over the course of the year and is a plus athlete, a trait Lazor consistently put to use on read-option plays and designed QB runs. Tannehill finished the season with a 27:12 TD-to-INT ratio and a completion rate of nearly 67.0. His 392 completions set a Dolphins single-season record. 26 years old, Tannehill is on the fringe of “franchise quarterback” status. He is owed just $2 million in 2015, a contract year for Tannehill. The Dolphins will likely begin extension talks soon. Sun, Dec 28, 2014 06:31:00 PM
The outlook isn’t nearly as pretty for Tannehill. The quarterback completed just 11-of-54 passes that traveled more than 20 yards in the air in 2013. His 20.4 percent completion percentage was the fourth-worst in football (among passers with at least 10 attempts). Only Josh Freeman (14.3), Cam Newton (19.2) and Chad Henne (19.2) fared worse.
According to Pro Football Focus, of the 36 “deep passes” (at least 20 yards) Tannehill threw to Wallace, only six of the eight “catchable” throws were successful — the worst percentage of 22 receivers ranked by PFF.
what is hilarious is that in Miami they are thrilled to have a young qb who shows potential. We have a guy who was drafted in the same draft and has done many things better than the qb in miami… but we have a media and partial fan base who wants to run him out of town!
Kap?
Newton?
Chubby Stafford?
MANNING?!?! Which one? The choke artist or the turnover machine? Eli is mid 30s and declining.
Tannenhill?
Man you are reaching.
and Foles is better than these guys ??
Kap…took his team to the SuperBowl
Newton Playoff wins
Eli and Peyton-SuperBowl Champions with Eli winning 2 Superbowls
Foles has regressed to his old college days where he had 33 turnovers in 35 games…
Foles has regressed terribly
no flacco? interesting…. tannehill?, rivers been at it awhile hasn’t really done much has he? or maybe i missed the SB the year he went….same with stafford and ryan…kap has regressed–newton? yikes!
You said 12, Flacco I’d take as well. I’m not basing these QB’s off of their W/L reccords, but simply I think they are better all around QB’s than Foles.
geno smith is better than kaepernick
Mhenski that’s a Koolbreeze type comment…..
while at face value most would agree thats asinine but its not. ive watched both play a ton and kaepernick is not an nfl qb… geno may be if he gets a coach that has a clue about offense and gets some players… people make the mistake and assume kaepernick is ok because his teams have won despite him and because he almost came back against seattle last year and because he got an outrageous deal… he is a poor mans vick
i watch him plenty and he cant throw… im gonna go further about how bad i think kaepernick is
i would take mark sanchez over him!
he cant throw, he refuses to play quarterback, he has no clue what a pocket is, he stares down his first read every play… he is awful man. he has talents no doubt but he aint an nfl qb
We had a mobile guy with a strong arm but he went 3-5. Then we had a mobile guy with a “stronger arm than foles” and he went 4-4 down the stretch and failed to get us into the playoffs. We have a guy who’s 14-4 and keeps us in every game but now he’s holding Kelly’s offense back. I just don’t get it. The kid gave us one of the best seasons in nfl history and yeah the next season he threw some turnovers and was off a lil bit but showed tremendous resiliency and guts to fight his ass off for his team and get us back in the game. Does that intangible not mean anything? He’s shown us he could do everything in Kelly’s system. Qb is not the issue when foles is healthy. Focus on the real issues at hand please
perfect response.
except move the ball against high powered defenses.
EHL…while I agree with your objectivity,you must make cogent points to be persuasive..the article does none of that ..it’s more of a Kool breeze between my ears rant…we’ve had that ..ad-nauseam…let’s put our bulls eyes ,where they belong…Bill Davis and his defense …I’m all for bringing a guy in to push nick foles and set up for his possible replacement ,it won’t matter if he’s Brady if he plays with the 29th pass defense …
Good points about the offense Paul. Chip better learn to adapt his offense to a more physical, man beats man type offense or I think his stay in the league will be brief. R/O, tempo and deception are nice for a change of pace, but not the staple of the O. Again, after a season or season and a half of success where defenses had not yet adapted to the R/O, all the pure R/O offenses have regressed tremendously (sans Seattle). I cringe thinking that the birds would trade there next several drafts to move up for Mariotta to run a pure R/O. I think the result would look alot like BCS Championship game last nite, where Ohio State despite a constant parade of turnovers used phsyicality to dominate a finesse team.
Foles may or may not be able to help us squeak by teams in the playoffs…. I agree he does limit what Chip likes and wants to call play wise but hopefully Chip can overcome that and run an offense that better suits Foles if that is who we are stuck with. I will say one thing after watching last night the price of Sir Marcus might have gone down a little… That was the first time he’s been really pressured and hit and he didn’t respond well…. If we can build up our defense through the draft and get the Foles of two years ago back we have a real shot, if not than its just gonna be another year of either missing the playoffs by one game or just making it into the playoffs and getting knocked out first round.
We can’t get the Foles of 2 years ago without first getting the teams we played under the same circumstances 2 years ago. The league evolves so forget the 27-2 year because it’s what you’ve done lately.
Foles didn’t really regressed but was exposed. We seen the same issues 2 years ago with him holding on to the ball. There were allot of dropped interceptions by the opposing team that season remember?
We’re didn’t get a decimated Raiders team this season, or a Aaron Rodgersless Packers this season, so the schedule played a big part in Foles short lived success, and keep in mind Foles could not win against winning teams and that is the one constant we can take from that season to now.
Look around you at your NFC east brethren ..the defensive side of the ball was addressed by the Giants…Redskins…the other teams in your division who weren’t good enough…the keys to this car were tossed to chip..his blind faith in Bill Davis and his lack of draft acumen ,and now the rant ,chip needs his guy…at qb..this is toxic..I’m not drinking this poison Kool aid..
Spot on Desert…
These Other Teams have addressed their Defensive Issues, by getting a new direction and leader for that side of the ball
Meanwhile Chip Kelly is satisfied with the Billy Davis 29th Ranked Defense
Performance.. This Act alone makes this Off-Season a Failure and harbinger of what to come as Kelly will now be calling all the shots..
Disaster, Train-Wreck, F-Fest and any other adjective you want to use describes the Direction this Eagle Franchise is going under Chip Kelly
redskins D is trash and so is the redskins
both their defenses are probably worse than ours
so is the giants…
John Fox terminated. That is a surprise.
Brock Osweiler has been riding the pine for 3 years and he becomes a Free Agent just like Wilson and Foles the next offseason. New England drafted Jimmy Garoppolo then traded Ryan Mallett when faced with a similar situation as the Broncos face now.
No Surprise really E0SB,
I stated after their loss Sunday that Fox would be gone.. John Elway built this Team in his 3 Years as the Boss to Win Now and it hasn’t happened..
Fox was hired by the Previous VP/GM before Elway took complete control
Elway wants an Offensive minded Coach and I expect Elway’s old Friend and Coach Gary Kubiak or possibly even Kyle Shannahan get the Job in the next 48 Hours
paul u stated that hours after it was national news…
Bleacher Report’s Jason Cole reports there’s a “pretty good chance” coach John Fox gets fired if the Broncos lose to the Colts on Sunday.
FOX Sports’ Jay Glazer had a similar “report” earlier in the morning, but it was extremely flimsy. Per Glazer, “there’s a thought if (the Broncos) lose today, could Fox become available? If he is, he shoots to the top of lists.” Despite winning the AFC West in each of his four seasons as Denver’s coach, Fox has been unable to deliver a championship. The Broncos lost in the Divisional Round in each of 2011 and 2012 before getting destroyed by the Seahawks in the Super Bowl last year. Fox would still be in high demand if he hit the open market.
Source: Jason Cole on Twitter
Jan 11 – 12:56 PM
I could have told you 4 Months ago if the Bronco’s lost in the 1st Round what John Fox’s Fate would be, No Surprise Here at All.. Just like I called Harbaugh’s Firing/Leaving the 49ers a Year ago… Some things are just easy to see how they unfold due to the dynamics involved..
I don’t need douchebag insiders like Glazer or whomever tell me what I already know… C’Mon Man!!!!
Marriota quote …what went wrong? They held us in the red zone…mmmm
Sounds as if he was playing for the Eagles last season..lol.
The mark of an Excellent Coach is adapting Game Plans that best suit his Personnel.. and the Fact that Kelly has failed in this Area again, proves to me that he is not a long-term HC in the NFL…
Do the Fans in Philly really want to see a Dink & Dunk, fast paced Offense
that can’t beat the Good Teams and has a complete disregard for it’s Defense and therefore won’t compete for a Super Bowl anytime soon
I Don’t.. I want Chip Kelly and his College Program “Outta Here” for it’s not even Professional Football.. Woopdy Doo ..You run plays every 16-20 Seconds regardless of the Score, circumstance and opponent…Wow that’s really exciting & genius Coaching …
Meanwhile your Defense is on the Field 35-40 Minutes a Game getting more pooped out at the critical parts of the Game and Season…
Year #1 It worked a bit, but the NFL has caught up.. Chip Kelly’s System, full steam ahead just has way too many Flaws to remain consistent at the NFL Level against NFL Defenses, Players and Coach’s…
i agree paulman. chip kelly is a fraud and as people like to say a snake oil salesman
from chip saying:
– ‘i dont have an offense, im not married to an offense, i use an offense tailored to my personnel’ THAT IS BULLSHIT, no he doesnt why is having foles run RO plays????/// that aint tailoring shit you FUGAZI
how about this line from chip
‘ i want to be a coach, i dont want final say on players, i will describe what i want and have the gm go get it’ LIES
dude is a lying fraud
Don’t forget, “I don’t have a problem with DeSean”, then gets rid of his ass a couple of days later…LOL.
yup. DUDE IS FULL OF SHIT… sooner or later players will rebel… these are grown ass millionaires. not college teenagers
guys a fraud
Foles is the QB for the foreseeable future.
He is not THE answer but he is the only answer right now. I’m sure they are looking for better options, and if one pops up I’m sure they will jump on it.
This looks like a 9-10 win team moving forward (for awhile) and some years that will be good enough to win the division. And some years it won’t.
Agreed. You can win with Foles….Can you win the big games is the question…and its one that will easily play itself out and if they are competent they are always looking to get better especially the most important positon on the roster.
without an upgraded secondary we will not be in the position to win big games. Foles is fine. He’s our quarterback. It’s embarrassing the way the dumb ass media treats him.
Our secondary was so atrocious that most moves made this offseason will be an upgrade by default.
Saying all that this team stumbled and bumbled its way to 10-6.
As TSJ stated….its a 9-10 win team in a division that can be won with that output. If we can truly upgrade and right the ship then they can get a stranglehold on the division. If they don’t we will yo-yo the next 3 or 4 years under Chip.
I think if we have a very talented front 7 and an offense that can win games and a special teams that might be the best in the league. I really believe if we upgrade our secondary, get some depth on the o line, and have a healthy foles for 16 games, that we are a 11-12 win team in 2015. I think Chip learned a lot about the NFL this year also and will adjust some game plans in the future.
I hope he learned that he can’t call the same 5-6 Plays & Formations every Game and expect to be successful ?
Can you win big games is not the question,
The answer so far is “No” based on what we’ve seen so far. The Eagles can win against sub .500 teams which translates to wins because there’s only a few top echelon teams with top QB’s.
Eagles aren’t Winning Crap with Billy Davis in charge of the Defense
7-9 Wins at Best for 2015 & 2016. Then Chip Kelly will Quit
I really hope the Eagles hire a “Defensive-Minded HC” which I know is not
sexy or flashy to the casual Fan, but Eagles have no Legitimate SB Chance
with continuing to have HC that don’t stress or know jack about Defense
Not good enough TS…they have to move forward and get the best available option to run Chip’s offense. It might mean giving up a bunch of 1st rounders for Mariota…so be it. Chip says Mariota displayed a Peyton Manning-like understanding of the game as a freshman with the physical tools that he has. If this is the case…go for him and trade away whatever it takes. It not him, then you have to draft a QB with the qualities that Chip likes….and let him play and develop.
Give Foles a break…if you are only a 9-10 win team at tops and cant make the playoffs and cant win…what would be the purpose of keeping Foles and not signing him to a long term deal? Why have him as a lame duck with no long term contract and the high possibility that he gets hurt again. Not trying to signing him to a long term deal now, you are telling the team you dont believe in Foles…the supposed young leader of the team…how does that instill any confidence to build on?
Let Foles go…trade him and get a 5th rounder for him…draft a QB…its the smart move
New England is a dink and dunk offense.
Seattle wins with Defense and a Defensive Head Coach.
Green Bay is a vertical big play offense which tries to beat you with speed receivers.
Indianapolis is also a vertical offense but relies more on TE mismatches deep.
And this is a pure clickbait troll article lmao….
Couldve just left the last article up and let it go past the 5000 post mark.
Paulmans flipflop on Kelly will be archived so that if the Birds are winning next year you will see him have another “come to jesus moment” on Kelly.
I was not a Fan of Chip Kelly’s Hiring to begin with but supported him for I have no other choice, but I still don’t like him or his College Style Offense as Coach of my Favorite Team, so yes, I have been Critical of him and will be even more so now as it’s Year # 3 as the Honeymoon was over in Year #1.. “What else can you Show me, Chip Kelly?”
Jeff, I’ve said it before, & I’ll say i again, you are a delusional, goofball, that has ZERO clue of what you talk about! Seriously, bruh, try writing an article, that worth something! How’s about a realistic article, pertaining to the draft, Free agency, signing/ releasing our players, & salary cap numbers! Bunch off assclowns, including you.
KELLY IS A FRAUD
Posted by Mike Florio on January 17, 2013, 8:13 PM EST
Philadelphia Eagles Introduce Chip Kelly Getty Images
For 14 years, Eagles coach Andy Reid had final say over the team’s roster. Today, it’s not clear who holds that power.
New Eagles coach Chip Kelly was asked whether he has final say on Thursday, and he didn’t answer the question directly.
“My role right now is clearly defining what we want,” Kelly said at his introductory press conference. “What is a cornerback? What are we looking for? What’s the height? What’s the weight? What’s the speed? What’s the makeup of each individual position here? Then in collaboration with everybody here, not one person can do it all. I’ve heard questions [indicating] that I want control over this, control over that. That has never been an issue, never is an issue for me. I’m a football coach. I’m not a general manager. I’m not a salary cap guy. I coach football. I need people who can go out there and say, ‘Hey this is what you want. These are the people.’ And it’s going to be a collaboration. We’re all going to be on the same page. I’ve got no delusions of saying that I want all these different titles. I just want to coach football.”
In other words, Kelly apparently doesn’t have final say over the roster. Or he doesn’t want anyone to know that he does, given that he has zero experience at the NFL level, in any capacity.
Owner Jeffrey Lurie didn’t address the issue of final say during the press conference.
Presumably, G.M. Howie Roseman possesses final say if Kelly doesn’t. There’s also a chance that neither do, and that if Kelly and Roseman can’t work things out, the tie will be broken by Lurie.
MHenski…..
Lurie broke the tie….in the end Chip may have been shrewd as hell…biding his time and when the opportunity came making his move.
Roseman just made it easy on him letting the position get to his head.
guy wanted to take matthews in the 1st round. wanted to take TAYLOR FUCKING HART in the 3rd.
GUY IS GONNA FUCK US OVER
relax, the eagles got sanchized.
the Colts, Patriots, Seahawks, and Packers weren’t making the playoffs if Luck, Brady, Wilson, or Rodgers went down in week 8 unless they were playing in the NFC South.
Jeff …that’s quite a dozen eggs ..we are leaving off two Super Bowl rings in eli..manning? Try researching an article before posting it ala songs…by the way guys futures and upside also matter in the conversation..you fail to even grasp that concept..
If Chip can’t win without an athletic quarterback maybe it’s time for a new coach. Other teams and coaches have figure out how to win SB’s. If Falco and Harbaugh can do it with the Raven’s the brilliant Chip Kelly should be able to do it with the Eagles. What is crazy is the Eagles had the most athletic qb of the last 20 years with Michael Vick and the offensive played like crap.
Jeff, you’re starting to sound like a one trick pony. How many times do we have to talk about the QB situation? I think we all know that Songs wants an athletic quarterback and Vinnie thinks that Foles is the future of the Eagles. Find a new subject
i dont think vinnie ever said foles is the future ever… just explains it aint easy to get better
Well, Flacco had a top defense on the other side, and there’s more Kevin Kolb’s and Bobby Hoyings who couldn’t cut than Flacco’s who did.
Foles is no Flacco.
Listening to 97.5 the FAN, they are picking Mariota apart like a buzzard on carcass meat. Trent Dilfer said he would not take him in the first 15 picks. Chip said Mariota is like a mobile Peyton Manning. I have been skeptical of Chip’s talent evaluation, but he may be right on this one, Peyton chokes in the big game just like Mariota did. Couldn’t resist that one….seriously, Mariota can be defensed by fast, physical defenses and that’s what we saw last night.
as they should pick him apart. and if there werent teams desperate to sell tickets and get a qb he would drop past 15…
Don’t you think it’s telling the public compliments Chip gives Mariota but rarely say anything good at all about Foles?
Eaglehaslanded…stop it…Mariota didn’t ‘choke’! A lot of QB’s can be defensed by fast, physical defenses…Mariota played pretty well last night considering that he played without his best wide receivers.
You guys kill me…its ‘in Chip we trust’ as long as he makes the decisions we like and keeps Foles! Stop it…if he falls like Trent Dilfer says…good…make it easier for Chip to get him.
F Chip, F Mariotta and F anything to do with the Read-Option Bullshit Offense of Oregon… It doesn’t work in the NFL…
Archived…for when ChimpBoy flipflops during the middle of the season next year.
Kool, when you was responding to my Mariota choking post, did you have a tear in your eye, a little bit of up welling huh?
Dude, if you read my whole post …I transitioned to my next sentence using the word seriously, which indicates I was not serious about Mariota choking. Stop crying and getting defensive. LMAO…getting all mad and what not…lol!!
Koolbreeze logic!!
“Mariotta didn’t choke! A lot of QBs can be defensed by fast physical defenses…..Mariota played well last night considering that he played without his best wide wrs….”
LOL
LOL
So to continue the Koolidiot logic….
“Foles didn;t choke! A lot of QBs can be defensed by fast physical defenses…..Foles played well last night considering that he played without 4 of his Olinemen!….”
You said it Koolbreeze!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mhenski..could not agree more ..this starts at the top ..the Eagles coach not articulating his vision ,and trying to dance around the question posed,are an indication why nobody in there right mind will interview ,wanting to be the GM …we are the quizzical gold standard ,soap opera..drama wins at the box office ,not however ,Lombardi trophies..
CBS Sports’ Dane Brugler reports that NFL scouts he polled say UCLA redshirt junior QB Brett Hundley will go between Rds. 2-5.
“However, some also think he could sneak into that first round because of the raw tools,” Brugler wrote. “He doesn’t appear in this updated mock draft, but the Houston Texans at No. 16, Philadelphia Eagles at No. 20 or the Dallas Cowboys at No. 27 are three possibilities that can’t be ruled out.” And what of those raw tools? Hundley rocks a pistol and drives a Lambo, but he holsters at the sound of footsteps and kicks the gas pedal with the sun visor down, oblivious to receivers on the horizon. He cooks from the same recipe as a coterie of busts. That doesn’t make Hundley undraftable — the tools are for real — but he’s not a worthwhile investment on Day 1.
Source: CBS Sports
Jan 12 – 10:27 PM
I would rather them draft Petty in the 3rd, than waste a high pick on Hundley, or destroying the future in trading up for Mariota, or Winston!
You like Bryce Petty? I don’t think hes any different than Hundley. Unless you think you are getting the same talent as Hundley in the third.
I think this a weak QB draft….one kid with certified pro skills in Winston with an 10 cent brain…and the rest projects for the right system.
I’ll pass on Petty.
i can see it now… hundley has 4th round grades by all the gms in football.. winston goes #1, marriota goes #2
THEN
CHIP TRADES UP TO #3 in the 1st round for hundley
Hundley will be lucky to be a 2nd stringer in the NFL. He will have a Matt Barkley-esque type of NFL career.
barkley another great draft day call by fraud kelly
Same Here, Petty, Grayson or Cardin are all more Mobile than FOles and have devent Arms….
Foles’ career passer rating of 94.2 is fifth-highest ever by a player after three seasons, behind Kurt Warner (103.0), Otto Graham (99.7), Russell Wilson (98.6) and Dan Marino (96.4).
Only the idiots in Philadelphia would even think of moving on past a guy who has the 5th highest qb rating after 3 seasons. The grass is always greener on the other side, isn’t it.
The #’s are nice, but we have to look at more than the #’s. Overall, is he the guy that can win the big game with the team on his back. With Kelly’s flawed offense, the QB will have to do that from time to time, especially against upper echelon top defenses. I will look at Foles’ good #’s, but also who he built those #’s on. Then I have to look at his poor games, and what he did against those upper echelon defenses. So #’s be damned…who is Nick Foles really? We don’t know yet, but there is a reason why so many people are looking at bringing in a QB. ..
And anti, Chip may be one of those idiots…
Hey, I love what Foles did in 2013, not so much in 2014…Even Nick knows he did not play well last year.
The Nick Foles we saw in 2013 was a product of playing weak teams that did not really know what to expect from Chip Kelly’s system…once defenses caught up with that…we saw the real Nick Foles who did what he used to do often in college…turn the ball over…the guy had 33 turnovers in 35 games.
Chip Kelly has seen enough of Nick Foles…he has seen him far more of Foles than we have. If he truly believed in him, Vick would never had started for the team, and Kelly would remove the current cloud of doubt that hangs over Foles and sign him to a big time contract….
Kelly knows what he has in Foles and he realizes that you are not going to win with Nick Foles
If you are going to take lumps in 2015, you may as well take those lumps with developing a QB who has the physical and mental tools to play in your system….rather than continue down this path of going with a guy you know full well doesn’t fit what you need in a QB.
To let Foles fail in 2015, and go into 2016 needing a QB is ridiculous and dangerous to Chip’s job security….He needs to make his move for a QB now…improve the defense in free agency…and let the Chips fall where they may!
3tds against a weak packers team
3 tds against a weak cardinals team who also had an awful defense
34 pts against a weak lions team
54 pts against a weak bears team
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAW
drawing up the final play to win the football game on in his ROOKIE YEAR.
7-1 in the final 8 games to take a below average team to the playoffs
win on the road in the final game of the season when everything is on the line
That’s my fucking quarterback.
The Eagles were a 4-12 Team going into 2013
GTFOH already..
Considering he has already carried the team to victory numerous times. He built those numbers against NFL teams who have the best athletes in the world. For all of you who nitpick Foles but want Mariota…. geez louise Mariota is playing against defenses where 95% of the players wont move on to the next level.
Who is Nick Foles? Nick Foles is the starting quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles who is 14-4 under the current head coach and 15-8 overall. He is a guy who has the 3rd highest Quarterback rating in NFL HISTORY in a season. He is a guy who is tied with hall of fame QB’s with the most touchdown passes thrown in a single game. He is a guy who took a hit that most humans wouldn’t be able to stand back up from, and led his team to victory (the redskins). He is a guy who won 7 out of the last 8 games of the regular season to lead a below .500 squad to the NFC East Championship. He is a guy who is still learning and had some struggles behind a piss poor offense line that produced zero running game (although we have all pro rb’s on the team), yet still helped that team compile a 6-2 record. He is a guy who is a tremendous leader who’s teammates look up to him and want to follow him. He is a quarterback with a strong NFL arm and has a mind that can produce great results. He is a guy who works as hard as anyone in the league. He is the quarterback of my favorite team and we should be thrilled to have a young guy who has accomplished so much already.
He is not good enough to win a playoff game, so all that means nothing.
he played in one and left the game with the lead after orchestrating a comeback. He also hit a certain wide reciever in the fucking gut with a ball that may have put another 7 points on the board. get out of here with your uneducated nonsense, the adults are trying to have a discussion.
he lost.
he missed wide open DJax consistently in that game…couldn’t take advantage of turnovers that the defense got…he missed plenty of opportunities…so he lost a home playoff game..smh
antitrust32 that is a vinniedaloser, IzzeltoastyJenkins type of analysis…stop it…
Its easy to move past a guy who was amongst the least sacked QB in the league while still managing to lead the league in turnovers last year.
His stats look good against the Oakland Raiders, the Tampa Bay’s, the New York Giants, the Deadskins, and other bottom dwellers…but where is his great game against a great defense or even a really good defense…
Only the fools want to keep Foles…only the idiots think we can win with him in Chip Kelly’s system…Its not going to work…
Its easy to move past a guy with a 59% completion rating
cmon kool say it .
cmon chippy got your man. bust a move..
say it… dont be embarrassed
sure mhenski…I’ll say mine if you say yours
“again full disclosure i dont watch ncaa football for the most part”
bust a move mhenski…LMAO @fool ass mhenski
So you would move on from Cam Newton is well…he has 59% career completion rating as well and I dont think he has ever thrown more then 20TDs going on 5 years into his career.
But then again you said Mark Sanchez was awesome and the redzone problems were over…..
But then again 5 months before the season you said….
“Sanchez Sucks”
ANOTHER FRAUD.
Cam Newton actually won in the playoffs.
He can’t beat winning teams…who gives a damn about his rating padded against bums anyway?
cardale jones must have done some flunking… 22 year old sophmore?
Let’s just say, he’s not the brightest bulb in the room and doesn’t fit
Chip Kelly’s Culture… Take him off your Wish-List..
No, he was in some kind of military style academy. I think it was for kids with trouble. Jones has not shied away from his past and talked about how that school got him turned around. I think that makes him admirable and a success story. Chip kelly is heavily into discipline, regiment and military style philosophy. Cardale has experienced that, sounds like a match. From what I am hearing jones has admitted he is not ready for the NFL and will probably stay in school. Let’s not prejudge his intelligence, he probably is smarter than a lot of the players on the Eagles roster now…right Mr. Cooper?
Rotoworld’s Josh Norris would rank Ohio State QB Cardale Jones over UCLA’s Brett Hundley and Baylor’s Bryce Petty if the Buckeye QB declares for the draft.
This factors in all three would come at the same “price.” That isn;t to say Norris considers Cardale a first-round talent, but he has displayed just as many positive traits as the other two in less film. If there was any quarterback to declare after 3.5 games, it is this one. Jones completed 16 of 23 attempts for 242 yards, one touchdown and one interception in the school’s Championship game win. He added another 38 rushing yards and score on the ground.
Source: Josh Norris on Twitter
Jan 13 – 12:50 PM
You should type alongside that ‘source’ mhenski
“I dont know Josh Norris from a can of paint and I never watched any of these guys myself…but it sounds good’…
Damm idiot ass
“again full disclosure i dont watch ncaa football for the most part”
LOL…
Are you chanting ? Or just saying the same thing over and over and over?
My limitation is I don’t watch ncaa. Yours is you have no clue about anything, you eyes must not work, and you have hamburgers for brains and know nothing about nothing and everyone on this site and probably in real life disagrees with you and laughs at you.
I’m happy I could make you laugh when I said I don’t watch ncaa. That is really really really funny stuff.
thank you mhenski…but that’s not all you said to make me laugh spellchecker….you a joke with every post, a funny ass lame who knows nothing about football and your ‘disclosure’ was simply proof…
C’mon go all the way with your ‘disclosures’ spellchecker…give us more
“again full disclosure i dont watch ncaa football for the most part”
you know there is more to add:
“again full disclosure, my name is mhenski and I’m a stupid asswipe and I dont know anything about football at all…I get all my opinions from twitter feeds”
Tweet, tweet…LOL…lame ass fool!
Watching Cardale in interviews over their last 3 Games, he handles himself very well and is mature and seems like a good guy.. I thought he definitely looked older than 19 Years Old.. I like the Kid and think he has a Nice Future in the NFL if he continues to work hard
He’ll eventually succeed beyond your pay grade. That sucks don’t it?
Some of you guys mistakenly think that the offensive system that Kelly runs with the Eagles is the same thing as he ran at Oregon. The fact is that the Eagles offense is ten times more complex.
I hear guys saying the Eagles have a small offensive line… that’s another mistake. The fact is, the Eagles have an offensive line that is (on average) the same size as the Dallas Cowboys, or the Seattle Seahawks. The only undersize offensive lineman the Eagles have in Jason Kelce.
Also, what you saw last night was not a Chip Kelly coached team. A big part of what makes guys like Kelly and Sean Payton and other offensive minded coaches special in their play-calling. You won’t see NFL teams tripping over themselves to get to Mark Helfrich.
I think a lot of people are wayyy over reacting to a college football game.
No we know it’s not the same offense, but, it seems to have the same issues. The Eagles offense is based on deception and tempo, the Ducks offense is based on deception and tempo. That is a fact.
Red-Zone struggles, everything must work in unison in order for offense to work. Bigger, physical faster defenses shuts the Kelly system down in the pros and college.
Eagles offense is based on deception and tempo, the Ducks offense is based on deception and tempo. That is a fact.
Where’s the deception? What the hell are you talking about? Kelly’s zone/read alignment is the least deceptive in football. If the back is on the right side of the QB, the play is going left 90% of the time. The Eagles passing plays are WCO plays… If you consider play options to be deceptions then the Seahawks offense is the same.
The Eagles Red Zone Scoring Percentage is 49.15% – that’s 23rd in the NFL…. Seattle’s Red Zone Scoring Percentage is 50.79 – that’s 21 in the NFL. That not a big difference… Oakland is 1st in the NFL at 71.43%. What that proves is that, how often you are in the red zone has a lot to do with your scoring percentage.
I’m sorry EHL, I’m not as down on Kelly and his (Eagles) offense as you seem to be…. I’m a firm believer that it’s not the X’s and O’s, but the Willie’s and Joe’s that win games. I think teams with more talent beat the Eagles – not better systems.
Irish..if you do not know that Kelly uses deception in his schemes I am sorry..I can not converse with you anymore on this matter. For two years now Kelly has done so and the fact you do not know this is incredible.
The Seahawks have the most college-based offense in the NFL. The Seahawks certainly do use deception with all the motion and options available to Wilson on every play. I don’t see that nearly as much with the Eagles. And, there are many fans here that want more.
Chip Kelly = Steve Spurrier at the NFL Level…
Get out Chip, Go back to College, where your System Belongs…
Right Chimpboy…because Spurrier won 20 games….his entire NFL career.
Put your flipflops on and Get back in your cage trollchimp.
Texas State redshirt senior DB Craig Mager “has been one of the more impressive defensive prospects through two practices on the East team,” according to CBS Sports Dane Brugler.
“Texas State defensive back Craig Mager has been one of the more impressive defensive prospects through two practices on the East team. He has very good read/react quickness to see the play develop and drive on the ball to arrive simultaneously,” Brugler wrote. Scouts saw Mager as an UDFA before he arrived, perhaps he’s changing scouts minds day-by-day. Brugler notes that Mager “received praise from the coaches for his effort and intelligence on specials teams, which will likely be his initial role in the NFL.”
Source: CBS Sports
Jan 13 – 2:12 PM
What’s his Stats Henksi.. Is ir stated anywhere?
Is he taking Reps as an Outside CB or a Slot/Nickel Back…
Texas State?
never heard of it, lol. Had to look it up. Texas State University Bobcats from the Sun Belt Conference in San Marcos, Texas
thats all i got fellas… scouring draft eligible secondary news….
10/14/14 – OCT 6 SUN BELT DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK: Craig Mager (Texas State, Sr., DB)…Craig Mager recorded a career-bests 12 tackles and three tackle for losses of 20 yards in Texas State’s victory over Idaho. Mager also recorded the first two sacks of his career and broke up a game-high two other passes against the Vandals. His two pass breakups also equaled his career-best effort and were the most he has had since he broke up two passes against San Jose State in 2012. His two sacks tie as the second-highest total by Sun Belt Player this season behind teammate Michael Odiari’s 4.5 sacks this season. – Sun Belt football
08/09/14 – 2014 PRESEASON SUN BELT FIRST TEAM (COACHES & MEDIA): Craig Mager (Texas State, Sr., DB)…Three-year starting cornerback who has made 36 consecutive starts…started 12 games … tallied 49 tackles, including 40 solo stops in 2013…led Bobcats with nine pass breakups and ranked eighth among SBC with nine passes defended…had a season-high nine tackles, including seven solo stops, against Western Kentucky. – Texas State football
12/07/12 – 2012 ALL-WAC TEAM (OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES, COACHES): DB-Craig Mager, So., Texas State, received All-Western Athletic Conference Team votes by the league coaches for the 2012 college football season. Mager tied for 23rd nationally and fourth among WAC leaders with four interceptions. He also ranked fourth among league leaders with 12 passes defended and set a school record with a 79-yard punt return for a touchdown against New Mexico State. – Texas State football
10/14/14 – OCT 6 SUN BELT DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK: Craig Mager (Texas State, Sr., DB)…Craig Mager recorded a career-bests 12 tackles and three tackle for losses of 20 yards in Texas State’s victory over Idaho. Mager also recorded the first two sacks of his career and broke up a game-high two other passes against the Vandals. His two pass breakups also equaled his career-best effort and were the most he has had since he broke up two passes against San Jose State in 2012. His two sacks tie as the second-highest total by Sun Belt Player this season behind teammate Michael Odiari’s 4.5 sacks this season. – Sun Belt football
08/09/14 – 2014 PRESEASON SUN BELT FIRST TEAM (COACHES & MEDIA): Craig Mager (Texas State, Sr., DB)…Three-year starting cornerback who has made 36 consecutive starts…started 12 games … tallied 49 tackles, including 40 solo stops in 2013…led Bobcats with nine pass breakups and ranked eighth among SBC with nine passes defended…had a season-high nine tackles, including seven solo stops, against Western Kentucky. – Texas State football
12/07/12 – 2012 ALL-WAC TEAM (OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES, COACHES): DB-Craig Mager, So., Texas State, received All-Western Athletic Conference Team votes by the league coaches for the 2012 college football season. Mager tied for 23rd nationally and fourth among WAC leaders with four interceptions. He also ranked fourth among league leaders with 12 passes defended and set a school record with a 79-yard punt return for a touchdown against New Mexico State. – Texas State football
walterfootball, cbs, drafttek, all dont even have him in their top 30.. dudes gonna have to have an insane combine… no clue? rotoworld put out the first blip and usually they dont make posts about lames
Mhenski….ask GMFocusedCliff about WalterFootball…his friend owns it.
Its what he used to win 150k on draftkings.com on his first try!
Or if you prefer you can always ask focused, he is friends with the owner also.
WTF, nobody caught this? Interesting.
Big. I caught it. TeamHurnt is mhenski. You are a doofus mhenski. You answered a question, for you, under screen name TeamHurnt, or am I losing it? What the hell is going on, on this site? gmcliff is Focused, e0s is Izzell? Jon lil Bron-Bron, is Izzell? havenoclue is retarded schiller? foolbreeze is Songs? paulman is a chimp throwing poop? Dudes, at least have the balls to stick to one name!!!! I’m so confused!
XD
LOL I sitting here dying, man this site is getting crazier by the day.
There is some Good Football Played in the Sun Belt Conference
Schools like Appalachian State and Georgia Southern just joined them last Year to even make it a Stronger and Deeper Conference
Texas State
UL – Lafayette
UL – Monroe
South Alabama
Troy
Arkansas State
Georgia State
Idaho (Which I have no clue why they are in it)
the eagles collapsed in the 2nd half of the league because of Mark Sanchez and the defensive secondary. Nick Foles returns from a broken shoulder takes care of half the problem now lets see how they handle the other half of the problem.
Foles was a problem is the first half, what the hell you’re talking about?
He was leading the league in turnovers with a pathetic QB rating,and his fat waspulled out the fire because the defense and special teams were scoring in the first half of the season,so the real difference between 2 halves is the defense and special teams stop scoring…the QB play was no different under Sanchez because they both Sanchez and Foles sucked ass.
Espn’s QBR rating has Nick Foles ranked as the 13 best QB of 2014 behind Wilson #12 and Luck #11 and in front of #14 Tannehill, #16 Newton , #17 Kapernick.
post espn turnover stats for those same players.
luck 17, cam 12, tannehill 12, kapernick 10, Foles 10, Wilson 7 Interceptions;
luck 6, cam 5, kap 5, Foles 3, tannehill 2, wilson 0 fumbles lost.
EHL…this is McShays early read on Cardale if he were to declare.
Heading into Monday night’s title game, I would have said that Jones was somewhere in the seventh-round or undrafted free-agent range, but after seeing the way he performed in the championship game win, including the fact he was able to go through his progressions and display outstanding poise, I think he’s more in the fourth- or fifth-round range. I texted three NFL scouts Tuesday morning, and all three pegged Jones as a Day 3 prospect. However, they admitted they would have much more work to do studying him if he declares.
Ohio State redshirt sophomore QB Cardale Jones completed 16-of-23 attempts for 242 yards, a touchdown and an interception in Monday’s 42-20 College Football National Championship Game victory over Oregon.
He added 38 rushing yards and a ground score. Jones’ third consecutive stunningly impressive showing spurred rampant talk about a potential early entry into the spring draft. Jones told reporters in the week leading up to the draft that that he “will definitely be back” in Columbus next season. Rotoworld’s Josh Norris would rank Jones over UCLA’s Brett Hundley and Baylor’s Bryce Petty if he changes his mind. The 6-foot-5, 250-pounder looks like the mutant offspring of Daunte Culpepper and JaMarcus Russell on the field, combing a gigantic frame with a big arm, good feet, and a willingness to drop his shoulder as a runner.
Jan 13 – 3:24 PM
As I said..a fourth round pick. My point is that you develop him. You do not have to play him this year. What does it hurt to use a fourth round pick…you are not playing him this coming season anyway. His projected upside to me is worth the risk. And honestly…I trust myself more than I trust Mcshay. Not a fan of his.
If it was a different situation than the one we have here I dont disagree with you.
Just depends on what the situation is with Foles and Kelly etc. Theres a ton ahead of us.
Free agency etc will dictate alot. I think a 4th or 5th is bringing us a vet WR……I think they invest heavily on both sides of the ball and make or break with Foles. This will be the walk year with him. If he gets injured again or struggles etc….then I think the whole tenor of the regime changes.
The Eagles need to invest in a backup qb to develop…Barkley is a waste and Sanchez is just Sanchez. At this point from what Jones is saying he is staying at OSU.
Everything they do in draft will rest on what they do in free agency. It will be interesting. I would not trade a pick to get a receiver. Whatever I can not get with $ I just will not get. I have plans for my 4-5 picks…lol
I think there is going to be an abundance of vet WRs to pick from this offseason.
I would be interested in Mike Wallace if he gets the ax. VJax is still up in the air.
Just depends on what is going down with the new structure. Word was Roseman soured on Foles….if thats the case than he shit the bed on Coopers play….I think he was burning up the phone lines come deadline time.
No thanks on Mike Wallace. His own team mates was killing him at the end of the season for removing himself from game and saying he just did not want to play anymore. If Kevin White falls to 20 they should take him….Sammie Coates should be given serious consideration too.
I’m not as impressed in Kevin White as most of yall are. I’m right on the outside of Mountaineer country and I have seen him play in person. Hes a good player but I dont see a burner or elite talent in him.
Its obvious we need someone to really blow the top of a defense. I am holding out hope that Huff or Matthews are on the outside next year. Cooper becomes this years version of James Casey. Special Teams allstar occasional offensive weapon.
EHL…..concerning WR….they loved Beckham….do you think that started the divide? I think Chip wanted to give up the farm.
On WIP Howie referenced the Sammy Watkins trade and how that made it to rich to trade up in the draft.
Izzell, That’s a good possibility, one that I hadn’t though of. I was a Watkins and Benjamin fan last year. Either would have worked. From my understanding Chip was more of an ODB guy. That may have caused the divide. If Chip wanted either Beckham or Watkins, he would have been correct, but the report came out that he wanted Mathews in the first so I don’t know who wanted what. One thing is for sure, that will not be a problem this year.
If chip wanted either ODB or Watkins, Howie should have made it happen.
The reality is that Kelly wanted WR Brandin Cooks
And when the Saints selected him just before the Eagles spot,
The amateurs panicked and traded back with Cleveland for they had no Plan B or C in place and needed more time to figure who to Select…
There’s a Ton on Reasonably Priced WR’s
In Free-Agency, why Trade for one and give up
A Draft Pick?
Plus there will be a few WR who are likely to become
Salary-Cap Casualties that get cut in February that will become Free-Agents too
(Fitz,Mike Wallace,Greg Jennings,Vince Jackson,
Malcolm Floyd, Steve Johnson…)
Towson senior CB Tye Smith is “showing a lot of skill” at East-West Shrine practice and is “quick with good fundamentals,” according to TFY Draft Insider Tony Pauline.
“Tye Smith/CB/Towson showing a lot of skill. Quick with good fundamentals; pedal, turn, transition. Like him,” Pauline tweeted. The first team All-CAA selection and AP FCS All-American started all 12 games as a senior, and his 85 tackles ranked second on the team. The Towson prospect racked up 312 tackles in his career, the fifth most in Tiger history. Smith needs to bulk up, if he plans to hold his own against bigger wideouts in the NFL.
Source: Tony Pauline on Twitter
Jan 13 – 3:12
Mike Freeman who has been killing the Eagles(and fans) since the DJax move had this interesting tidbit.
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Louis Riddick, 1 of smartest guys out there, on Mariota: “If Chip Kelly gets his hands on Marcus, by some form or fashion, it’s lights out.”
I heard him say that on 97.5 the FAN yesterday.
CHIP KELLY ATTENDS NFLPA TO WATCH QB BRANDON BRIDGE AND OTHERS.
Posted on BGN. Written by Brandon lee Gowton
It’s not a surprise to see Kelly there. The guy is a football junkie. This was evident last year when he traveled around the country and attended virtually every team’s Pro Day.
The NFLPA Bowl doesn’t feature the big name talents that the Senior Bowl does, but there are still some legitimate NFL prospects to be seen.
Kelly might have interest in a raw developmental project such Brandon Bridge. The South Alabama quarterback is 6-5, 235 pounds, and runs a 4.64 40-yard-dash. Take a look at some of his game tape.
It’s also worth noting that Oregon defensive backs Erick Dargan and Troy Hill will be in attendance at the game. I’m not sure they made it in time for practice considering they played a game on Monday night.
Other notable names to look at for the Eagles, according to BGN’s Mike Kaye, are Washington linebacker Josh Timu, Marshall quarterback Rakeem Cato, Central Florida linebacker Terrance Plummer and Texas A&M offensive guard Jarvis Harrison.
The 2015 NFLPA Bowl game starts 4:00 PM EST on Saturday, January 17. Watch live on ESPN2.
Brandon bridge is a player I wrote about in late September early October. He is big, fast and has a strong arm. He is pretty accurate and makes all the throws. Good developmental prospect.
I saw Bridge in person Play when South Alabama
Came to Boone and stomped on my Appalachian State
Team in October.. He’s very raw and from Canada
With little experience, but this kid is naturally
Talented with a huge upside with proper Coaching
And patience and in 3 Years time could really
Developed into something special..
If he’s invited to the Combine which I expect and shows off his
Talents and athleticism, I think he may rise
To a 3rd/4th Round Pick is a generally weak QB Class
I read somewhere that he was going to attend
The QB Camp in Fla run by Danny Kannell
Who has worked with many Draft Prospects the last
Few years and done a nice job in furthering young QB
Mechanics..
I also like the upside of that LB from Central Fl
And the Guard from Texas A&M as potential
Late Round Picks…
Good Stuff…
another point.
I would rather have a rookie who can run the full playbook over Foles day one.
He can’t be as bas as what we’ve seen from Foles this season and it will be a double bonus if he actually play an complete season without a season ending injury.
Typical stupid ass comment from Songs…
Name any Rookie QB who learns a complete “Playbook” Day 1…
Do you realize how stupid that sounds?…
Colorado State QB Garrett Grayson is the guy I would groom to replace Foles. I have seen him play many games over the last 2 seasons because I have family that play with him – he has great instincts and football smarts. We will see him at the senior bowl.
Alright Irish, this is getting kind of awkward…I’m agreeing with you a little to much here..I’ve watched Grayson a few games this year and I like him. Nice Mobility, pretty good arm and he’s a leader…He is definitely worthy of consideration.
Who would have thought when Andy Reid selected him and his stint here in Philadelphia…
King Dunlap is going to be a sought after free agent and get paid this year.
KING DUNLAP
If we let Graham walk(which we should)…..I wonder if Jerry Hughes could be a possibility.
Also Pot Roast Knighton would be a nice get for the line.. Push Logan out to DE or let him fight it out with Curry/Thornton.
New HC Rex Ryan Stated that he wants to retain
LB Jerry Hughes and sees big things for Hughes and their Defense
Bills Announce New OC in Greg Roman
And has brought DC Dennis Thurman over
From the Jets to form an Excellent Staff
Former DC Schwartz is out and runs a 4-3
Ryan will have that Bills Defense a Top 5
Next Season
Bills kick the Eagles ass at the Linc in next Years Opener
DT Knighton has no interest in coming to Philly per his Agent
“The Eagles Defense is on the Field way too much
He says.. F- them”
Except the Bills have invested heavily into the defensive line…..and Hughes already put them on notice…
Impending free-agent defensive end Jerry Hughes made it clear that he won’t accept a hometown discount to return to Buffalo.
“That’s a nice little deal to throw out there,” Hughes quipped, via The Buffalo News, “but yeah, I’ve never heard of a hometown discount in the business world.”
Money talks bullshit walks…..
And it basically comes down to Jerry Hughes extension or Marcel Dareus after his 5th year option.
Dareus is the better player. On top of with Rex now in Buffalo they are now a darkhorse to upgrade on the outside at CB with his love child Revis.
Songbreeze. Praising Cam Newton this thread. Cam. Newton.
He won a playoff game (in his 4th season) doncha’ know!
Against Ryan Lindley and Arizona’s worst offensive performance in NFL history….
And still barely squeaked it out…..requiring 2 very questionable interference calls to keep drives alive you ignorant fuckhead.
Cam fucking Newton…..last game….3 interceptions (should have been 4), including a pick 6 AND a fumble.
Foles played like that and you’d call him the Anti-Christ you simpleminded Michael Vick slurping Cam Newton feltching shit for brains.
***NFL News****
49ers DC V Fangio wants out of his Contract unless he or Mike Shanahan
Are named next HC. GM T Balked is interviewing Broncos Adam Gase
For a 2nd time Tomorrow and all indications are that Gase will be offered
The Position
Cardinals DC Todd Bowles has a 2nd Interview with the Jets & Falcons and I expect that he will accept one these 2 Offers by Wec
Eagles are F’d with DC Billy Davis… And Chip Kelly neither has a clue on how to fix the Defense or the balls to fire his ass
Eagles take a big step back in 2015
There goes ChimpBoy trolling for attention again…..
Back in the cage ChimpBoy.
Izzell, why do you have be such a jerkoff? Can’t you just have a discussion, instead of insulting guys on here everyday? Come on man! WTF! Have a constructive conversation! At the very least, pauls goofy & sometimes twisted posts, can be good topics! Where in any of his above comments was he wrong, incorrect, or non-factual? Stop acting like a spoiled, brat 3 year old, & bring f^#@ing something to the table, for Christs sake!!!!
Bowles is the new head coach in NY, so Lebeau will take over the D in Arizona. Good shit on this post today here’s my take. Kelly is a fraud and worse of all he believes his own hype, but I agree with the move of putting him in charge let him put his system in play with his guys if he shits the bed he’ll be gone in 2 years. This off season and draft is crucial to his long term NFL future I know my popcorn is ready because this is going to be some entertaining shit.
Oh yea, hell no on Mariotta you can get a Chip guy later in the draft, Foles played like shit this year but I think much of it was due to Kelly not playing to his strengths which is asinine but hey maybe Mariotta’s stock will continue to drop like a big ass Boulder right into Chippy’s lap.
If he drops you take him if he doesn’t you don’t. However I don’t see him falling out of the top 10 barring a horrible pro day or an ailment we don’t know about.
Chip Kelly is a genius in terms of the Xes-and-Ohs and player development, clueless with regards to talent acquisition at the NFL level.
If what people take from the National Championship game is that Kelly’s system can’t win a title, then you fail to recognize that Meyer’s system is very similar to Kelly’s. Meyer has been running it since he was at Bowling Green, but when he took a brief hiatus from coaching he went to Oregon were they gave him almost complete access. Just google ‘Chip Kelly and Urban Meyer’ to get an idea of how Kelly has influenced him.
What that game gave you a glimpse of is what can happen when you put big time athletes in a spread offense. Ohio State has big time athletes everywhere, Oregon has a couple. Just compare the the 2011-14 recruiting classes of Ohio State and Oregon on Espn.com, OSU blows Oregon out of the water. That’s why OSU could commit four TOs and still win easily, it was men amongst boys. People have it twisted that Oregon gets great talent. They coach up average talent cuz they don’t have first dibs on the top recruits. Michigan gets better recruits than them yet they can’t win cuz they don’t have Oregon’s system or coaching, that’s why they were desperate to get Harbaugh.
The problem with Kelly is he wants to create Oregon northeast. He thinks he can take average talent and coach it up, just like college. With kids, being smarter can go a long way, because other programs don’t get that level of coaching. At the pro level the intelligence gap is smaller, big gaps in talent on the field will erase gaps in intelligence on the sidelines. I think Kelly is a better mind than every coach in the playoffs except Belichek. But he’s not erasing the gap in ability between Bradley Fletcher and Jordy Nelson. Or Riley Cooper and Byron Maxwell. Riley Cooper is a carbon copy of the wide receivers Oregon has in abundance. Big, tall 4.6/40 guys who get open in college cuz kids fall for the ball fakes and different formations. In the NFL, Jacksonville and St. Louis fall for it, but Seattle and SF don’t. None of the Oregon skill players were elite recruits, and not many make it at the NFL level. OSU gives me hope and dread. Get big time talent in a spread offense and see what can be done. Or get average talent(except for the qb) and always come in 2nd like Oregon.
Skayne you win the site, this is easily the best articulated post on this site in months, no bias no name calling just the absolute truth. Please anybody try to find fault with this post you can’t.
I can find no fault, 100% agree.
Recruiting at Ohio State and recruiting at Oregon are two totaling different things. Even with add hours as Oregon is on the West Coast they still aren’t the number one destination for the biggest hub(California). USC can be atrocious and the best recruits will choose there..then UCLA then Cal. Kelly made his bones on the West Coast getting the kids from Compton etc that werent getting heavily recruited.
I agree with your premise Skayne but the talent part I don’t. Roseman was on record of not wanting to get burnt free agency wise and I think that played a huge part in our talent structure. Kelly blew the DeSean angle because they blew the draft. That move shows the disconnect between Howie and Kelly now in hindsight. Beckham or Cooks were going to be that replacement and they got caught with their pants down.
I agree with what others are saying. This is the stamp blyeprint year. We will find out a lot about the next 2to3 years here.
Well if Chip is a genius, then he should quickly figure out that its talent that wins on this level. He more than anyone should recognize the biggest error he made was in getting rid of DJax. If he is truly a genius, he wont keep Foles around trying to fit that square peg in the round hole…
Eagles fans have bigger fish to fry. What happens if Foles isn’t very good in 2015? What happens if Foles gets hurt for the 4th consecutive year? Who is the QB in 2016? Do the Eagles go into 2015 with no QB under contract for 2016? The Eagles cant go into 2015 with no QB under contract for 2016. Foles has this franchise under hostage.
Eagle fans are arguing over a moot point. Who the QB means nothing. It doesn’t matter. I posted on here 2 years ago what Oregon does when they play the Big Boys”. The Seattle Seahawks, Steelers, the Ravens of the college football world.. The Deleware Valley is terrified after watching Oregon Monday night. It was like watching the Eagles play on the collegiate level. Just like the Eagles Oregon looks good vs the Oregon States or “Oakland Raider of the world. 7 td passes and praise out the ass. The Oregon Ducks look good vs the Washington States of the world or the Washington Redskins as Vick has career numbers. But put them up vs the Ohio States or Seattle Seahawks it just doesn’t work. Name me one team besides Indy that the Eagles have beat that were considered just as good or better than them. They usually don’t win and in many cases not even competitive with a mobile QB or a statue. Redzone woes and defensively look eerily similar. Now Im hoping that the Eagles have more talent with a shady, maclin, erts and peters than Oregon had this year with pedestrian skill players but Oregon in the past had stud playmakers to. After watching Oregon on Monday night I am more inclined “If I was Chip”, is to really modify my offense with Foles. The Eagles do have some talent in place. I would load my defense up through the draft and FA, modify that hurry up and go more conventional vs tougher teams the hurry up isn’t working against or suffer the same fate Oregon and his team “the Eagles” incur constantly vs the big boys.
I agree 100%..
If Chip Kelly was truly an “Offensive Innovator”
He would adjust his Scheme to the Talent he has..
I just don’t think he has the “Ego” to do this..
It’s hid way or the Highway, just like AR was
And if you want to know what seperared the Good Coach’s
From the Great Ones, it’s this very point..
Watch Bellicheck, McCarthy,Harbaugh (Ravens)
1 week it’s a pass heavy scheme, hurry up,
3-4 WR’s, a different Receiver being the primary
The next week it’s Rush heavy, 1 Back,2 Back
2/3 TE, an extra OL, etc,etc
These great Coach’s change it up every week
And utilize their entire Rosters…
Not Chip… He doesn’t seem to understand this yet
And will be his downfall
Paulman you won’t like this but Chippy played his hand the minute he released Djax, you know why? Because he never considered his QB in releasing a elite talent and thinking somehow his system could mask the loss of that talent. I know you don’t like Djax but I said at the time and will continue to say his release said more about Kelly’s character then Jackson’s think about that for a minute.
I agree that releasing D-Jax and having no other
Legitimate Deep threat to stretch the field hampered
Nick Foles in 2014, then once he went down,
It became a moot point for Sanchez,Barkley
Both don’t have the arms to throw a Deep Ball
The biggest difference from 2013 to 2014 Eagles Offense was the change from a “Vertical” Attack they had in 2013 with
D-Jax and a healthy Foles to a more “Horizontal” attack
With sideline routes, drag routes mostly
Within in the 8-12 Yards range..
The lack of a legitimate Deep Threat and not having a QB (Sanchez)
Be able to stretch the field doomed this Offense versus the better
Defenses & Teams in 2014…
So for 2015, Eagles & Kelly must
1) Get a Deep-Threat WR
2) Have a Healthy Foles
3) Acquire/Draft a Big Arm QB
4) Attack more vertically and less horizontally
5) Develop more Running Plays between the Tackles
If Coach Kelly doesn’t address these things,
Then his time with the Eagles will be a short one and Eagles
Will be 8-9 Win Team
I also stated from Day 1, that Eagles Offense would not truly
Be in Kelly’s likeness until he got rid of the Big 3 when he started
(Vick,D-Jax & McCoy) and I stand by this comment 2 Years later
I am not saying getting rid of the big 3 was right or wrong,
I am saying this is how Kelly thinks about having his stamp on the Team
Let’s see what happens to McCoy this Off-Season…
I agree with everything in your post.
LOL, Big we was saying that losing Djax was going to hurt the offense from the beginning. Why did it take so long for others to catch up or see this. For the record, I think Kelly wanted to replace Djax but failed to do so when he got out maneuvered for Cooks. It’s not about the total yardage, it’s about the deep threat element that Jackson brought to loosen up the defense. Also the fact that Foles’ could reach Jackson with a bomb, Jackson would simply rundown the pass.
“Rundown the pass”
Huh?
Does that mean Foles was overthrowing him and Jackson had to catch up to it?
That doesn’t fit the “weak arm” narrative.
So which is it?
Between EHL myself and Paulman did any of us question Foles arm strength? Troll somewhere else man.
Yeah, you’re way off target on this one, Big, myself, and paulman are not posting under aliases….once again, get your story straight..LOL…Chris Ballard.
And if they keep McCoy your entire theory is moot. Plus those big three are the big three you have actively wanted gone.
You were banging on McCoy all year as done or this or that.
I think what he was trying to say Izell is McCoy with his comments and actions isn’t the typical Chip Kelly guy, truly changing culture I can see moving on from McCoy and Jackson, Vick is moot because he wasn’t starting. The problem Kelly will run into is finding talented guys who fit his idea of culture he failed with DJax so he better be careful if and when he replaces McCoy.
If McCoy isn’t replaced this year than you have to start looking for his replacement regardless. His RB shelf life is coming due sooner than later.
You gutys are continually misinterpreting Kelly’s definition of “culture”.
You think it relates to Instragram pics, and off feild troubles. Those play the most minor or roles.
Kelly’s “culture” refers to inside the walls of the complex, and most noteably on the field. ALl he wants is guys that play their hardest, practice their hardest, buy into the program all the time.
Desean did not do that. he quit, ON the field. He was, from many reports, being a pain in the ass, INSIDE the building.
That’s the “culture” Kelly is talking about.
Pretty damn easy to figure it out.
Besides, the continual moaning over the loss of Desean is too funny. You’re belief in how special he was or hw important he was to the offence is terribly overblown. The rotating of backup linemen in and out of the lineup for 8 games impacted the O about 100x more than the loss of the one trick mini-man.
Not having another deep threat on the field was a mistake. Can’t be denied.
I would have been fine still with releasing him and bringing in that element. Huff shit the bed on that though and they miscalculated on player availability. But from the sounds of it now…No one was on the same page in the FO.
We have about a month and a half to go to see how they strike in free agency.
You figured that out with the same sources you used for Ballard to the Bears huh Vinnie. LOL I think it’s funny that you claim you know football but you use terms like one trick pony I regards to Jackson. Now what knowledgeable football fan uses that term in regards to a guy who was all pro at two different positions, can run reverses for scores can take a screen pass the distance and beat any deep coverage for TD’s?
AWWW SHUCKS…you guys and your Djax high jinks. It’s all about Nick Foles. That’s all that matters…lol. The fact is we have consistently said it is not about Djax the person, it’s his speed as a deep threat receiver. Djax’s name is just used symbolically. If chip had that deep threat replacement we would not be talking about it. That’s not to hard to grasp.
He wanted McCoy gone but had ample opportunity all year to eliminate his touches with Sproles and Polk but didn’t….sorry that theory doesn’t hold up.
With a Back-up in Sanchez limiting some of the Passing Game/Routes of the Playbook and the Fact that Polk wasn’t 100% ready to play until week #5-6 and that Sproles wasn’t really right after about Week #8, there was little choice but for Kelly to ride McCoy as much as possible..
Kelly is not stupid and realizes McCoy’s a Special Back, I just believe
That the Kelly also thinks about having his Guy’s that share his Vision/Culture or whatever you want to call it.. Bases on Kelly’s Oregon Teams he prefers those Quick, Decisive, One-Cut Backs who follow the Play Design to run between the Tackles to get those 4-5-6 Tough Yards.. and then use those smaller, burner types as his Scat Back for the Screens/Wheel Routes/Draws,etc,etc… It’s what he did at Oregon..
Rushing by Committee..
outside Rushes to be those Pure-Burner types ..
I think way to much is made into the type of player available to Kelly and Oregon in College and Kelly and the pros.
I agree with your standpoint on one-cut backs…hell I was the one who stated the hypothetical of Lynch here instead of McCoy. However he still isn’t moving on from McCoy IMO. I do see his replacement coming within the next two years both for shelf life and offensive change. If they stick with Foles they need a back that picks up the tough 4-5yds and or even the tough 2-3 where the offense isn’t operating in long yardage downs.
McCoy gets one more year in this system…I just think his stats will never reflect what he did two years ago. Kelly uses him up hard this year IMO.