And the discouraging, questionable moves just keep on coming.
Because having an injury-prone former first-round bust of a quarterback wasn’t enough, Eagles’ mastermind Chip Kelly today decided that he’s going to replace Pro-Bowl running back LeSean McCoy with an injury-prone former first-round bust of a running back.
The Eagles are expected to sign former San Diego Chargers running back Ryan Mathews. Mathews has played a full 16 games only once in his five-year career, including just six appearances in 2014.
After successfully striping away his best offensive talent, Kelly made another move on Wednesday morning, this one aimed at satisfying his Oregon Duck quota.
The team is also expected to sign cornerback Walter Thurmond, who has primarily been a reserve and special teamer throughout his career, is a former Duck who has just one career interception in five years. He could come in and compete for the starting job opposite Byron Maxwell.
WTF…will preced all eagles news from now on..it is written
A nice nugget to know regarding Walter Thurmond
In 2013, QB’s were 43-65 for 376 yards with 0 TDs and 1 INT when throwing Walter Thurmond’s way. That was his last full season.
If Chip with this superb sports science program can keep him healthy, we got ourselves a real gem
have to have a season ending injury to sign here. wtf???
seems he wants guys who need to prove themselves for another contract or kids who will listen to every word. “you want another contract? than run through wall to jump off bridge” Chip is really scaring me with this shit.
Thurmond is here in Philly taking a physical
Matthews is on his way
Thurmond is better then Maxwell.
When healthy, Thurmond is a very good CB
Very talented. And now hes returning back to the scheme he had success in
I love the signings
Finally getting this defense right especially that secondary
Walter Thurmond is another bullshit signing. If he was that good he would still be with Seattle, and the Giants.
This is looking a lot like a team put together by Paulman as General Manager…
Lol
HOF CB, with his 1 int. in 5 years! GTFOH!
WRONG!
W.R.O.N.G!!
WROOOOOONG!!!
Yep he is.
He’s also primarily a slot guy…so are we keeping Boykin?
I think so, they’ll let Thurmond play outside.
Nick Foles described as “overjoyed he’s out of Philly”
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 11, 2015, 5:58 AM EDT
Nick Foles is glad to be out of Philadelphia.
Foles, the former Eagles quarterback who was traded to the Rams for Sam Bradford and draft picks yesterday, apparently wanted to leave. Sal Paolantonio of ESPN said on 97.5 The Fanatic that a Foles relative described Foles as ecstatic to no longer be an Eagle.
“I just talked to a member of Nick Foles’s family. He is absolutely pumped, overjoyed he’s out of Philly,” Paolantonio said.
There had been no previous reports of Foles clashing with coach Chip Kelly, but it’s become clear recently that Kelly wasn’t satisfied with any of his top offensive skill position players. Foles, LeSean McCoy and Jeremy Maclin are all leaving the team this week.
In St. Louis, Foles is going to a place where he’s expected to be the starter. After enduring months of speculation that he’d be replaced in Philadelphia by Marcus Mariota, it’s easy to see why Foles would be happier as the man in St. Louis.
Foles addressed the media for the first time since Week 9 and when asked about next year he said “I expect to be back here. I expect to be the quarterback. I love my teammates and I expect to be back out there leading them.” Expect another off-season of “Is Nick Foles the guy?”
1st of all, that’s all pure speculation….but if true….then it is exactly as I said.
He, and his family, has spent the last 6 months/year reading articles about how much he sucks. How team will never meet its potential with him because he can;t run, how he’s not fit for the O, and on and on and on…..
Even if he had ripped it up this year, I doubt severely he was going to resign into that environment. Would you?
Philly eats its own. Its a toxic place to be a sports star.
He’s not as ‘overjoyed’ as Chip Kelly that he’s out of Philly!
Chip looked at the film of the guy consistently missing open receivers, taking check downs when there where wide open receivers down the field, taking sacks and not getting rid of the ball, and going into states of pure panic against good defenses-turning the ball over, bad decisions
Chip is doing cartwheels that Foles is out of Philly
Looks like we’re drafting Wrs
Not thru FA but will wait for draft
Harvin would be a nice fit but not looking like its gonna happen
Sam Bradford is also in Philly
Both Bradford and Thurmond arrived last night
I’m hearing from my sources when bradford was walking thru the airport he hopped on one of those escalators and his knee buckled– one of those airport golf carts reserved for old people was called in to transport him to luries limo– however because of his lack of mobility he could not get into the limo– so they called a paratransit van!!!!
That’s hilarious HAC.
Heard a nice stat this morning that Sam Bradford, Kiko Alonso, Walter Thurmond, and Ryan Mathews all combined to start 8 games last year. Eagles are clearly outsmarting everyone.
Dear Howie, please come back soon…
Its a 1yr deal for Thurmond
Chip will release all non Oregon players and draft or sign all Oregon football
graduates. Instead of the American Eagle our mascot will be Daffy Duck.
Good job Barney Rubble! Players with injuries are welcome. Weird Barney science will cure your ills.
In Chip we bust.
McCoy “cracking jokes” to Gore about not coming to Philly. Foles reportedly happy he’s gone. Maclin rolling out. Plenty of rumors vet FAs staying far away (not that I mind this)
Maybe because of the $$, maybe because of Kelly.
But I guarantee you the media in Philly plays a huge role in this.
No other city rips into everything like Philly does. Nothing is even close.
So far this year….dozens of articles, Philly dysfunctional. Eagles a soap opera. Power struggles. Chip Kelly is racist. Foles sucks. Foles is slow. Foles is clumsy. Maclin soft. Shady a bad tipper.
The sheer volume of “attack” articles is unbelievable and I guarantee you does not happen in other cities.
Do they occasionally criticise? Sure. But not like this.
Have you ever been exposed to the NY sports media? Seriously…Stop it!!!!
Great post
Birds are eyeing Safety Rahim Moore according to my source
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
Ex-#Broncos safety Rahim Moore arrived in Houston to visit with the #Texans. He’s been methodical, letting it all play out before deciding
WRONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
WTF!! Ryan Mathews fucking sucks donkey dick!! I live in SD and this guy is always hurt. Don’t you think the Chargers would have resigned this guy if they thought he was worth it? He was the Chargers 1st round pick. OMG I just can’t take this shit anymore. I have never been so stressed out about the Eagles EVER!!!
AP on the move
Unsure who is gonna take on that contract but man what a great RB
Hey guys been reading this site for a few years now. Never get involved in comments cause mostly all y’all do is bicker but I keep up during FA cause I’m from out of town and you guys seem to have all the inside sources… having said that… For the love of God Jon Hart just stfu already. I was rooting for you and felt bad seeing everyone gang up on you but jesus christ man you have been wrong on literally 100% of the shit you get from your “inside source”. It’s beyond pathetic really. But that’s all just made a username to say that Jon Hart is a blithering idiot. Good day.
Another one of henski or vinnietherimmer profiles
Suck A Dick Bitch
If you’re following my posts dick sucker you’ll see that I post what im hearing and my opinion
And I’ll continue to post my news that interest me and again their isnt a DAMN THING you or anyone else can do about it
JH’$ EAGLE$ NEW$
The crying and whining about Nick Foles is truly incredible
Chip Kelly deserves to be bashed…but not over Nick Foles
Getting rid of Shady McCoy and his production and his positive production on the team is the dumb move by Chip!
Shady and DJax are the two worst moves by Chip Kelly
Getting rid of Foles gives him an opportunity to improve the team at the most important spot…
Sam Bradford is simply a try out because he is so injury prone, but he is from a talent standpoint a major, major upgrade from Nick Foles
Good move by Chip to take a shot…
Now we are improving the secondary with Maxwell and Thurmond…lets sign Rahim Moore and get rid of Nate Allen…an upgrade…a stronger defense add a receiver and get some offensive line upgrades…
We will be back in the thick of things!
Go Eagles!!
Kool I’m not giving a gimp 13 million dollars for a try out sorry man, Chip Kelly let Shady go because of money and Djax because of money but is currently paying 19 million dollars for a gimp in Bradford and a unproductive asshole in Cooper no defense for that.
What the fuck do you mean….a “try out”
They can’t cut him and eat that $13million. He’s the starting QB of the Philadelphia Eagles.
If then was all about a “tryout” then they would have stayed with the guy you despise so much as it wouldn’t have cost $13 million dollars a 2nd and a 4th.
You think they’re giving up those picks and $13 million (both real $$ and a cap hit if cut) for what??
A training camp “try-out”??
Idiot
Your stupidity knows no bounds.
Bradford is the Eagles starting QB.
Dumb Ass Vinniedaloser…stop whining!
Yes!! A ‘try out’…there is no long term commitment to Sam Bradford
He’s going to have to prove that he can stay healthy and play well
If he plays well he’s worth a 2nd and 4th and if he gets hurt you dont give that up
If the money doesn’t prevent you from signing other players…who cares…its one year not a long term deal…there is still plenty of room under the cap and if he stays healthy and plays well…its worth the 13 million because he has the talent
So fuck yeah…”try him out”…cut him if he doesn’t play well, keep him if he does play well, and if he gets hurt you dont give up a second rounder for him….
Not a bad deal at all, especially when you have unloaded the dead weight that Nick Foles represented
Addition by Subtraction….Fool Ass Vinnie
Yes Bradford is the Eagles starting QB and not damm Nick Foles
Go Eagles!!
Chip Kelly made a decision…a very good one…he knew that Nick Foles cant play so there was no need in spending another year looking at him. He knew that he wasn’t signing him to a long term deal.
Koolidiot….How can you be so wrong all the time????
Koolidiot: “If he plays well he’s worth a 2nd and 4th and if he gets hurt you don’t give that up”
Sorry fucknuts. the 2 (2016) and 4 (2015) from the eagles are GUARANTEED.
Why the hell do you think we’re all so pissed?
Eagles give those 2 picks up no matter what. Those picks are Gone.
IF Bradford gets hurt then the Eagles get a 3(2016) back and if he just sucks and doesn’t start more than 8 they get a 4. If he plays more than 8, the Eagles get nothing back.
So….does that change your idiotic “try out” statement???
Eagles are giving out $13 million dollars, a 2 and a 4 guaranteed.
Not for a tryout
To be the starting QB
Twit.
Letting Shady go was a bad move…no question about it. Keeping Cooper is ridiculous..
Getting rid of Foles is a very good move!
If they have the cap space and they are not making any long term commitments to Bradford right now….who cares about the money if it doesn’t stop them in making moves to get free agents players or resign their own players.
There are very limited options at QB
It makes sense to take a shot with a talented gimp like Bradford, hope that him having an improved offensive line, coaching, and training regiment keeps him healthy. If he does stay healthy you have significantly upgraded the position
Chip Kelly knew that that he wasn’t keeping Nick Foles…he seen enough to know that he was not good enough.
Why not take a look at Sam Bradford…if he can’t play or gets hurt dont re-sign him and he doesn’t become an albatross on your neck. This is a better alternative than signing Nick Foles to a new long term deal and like I stated before: you couldn’t keep Nick Foles here on the last year of his deal And you can still draft a young Petty or Hundley and develop them
no trading shady and djax was part of the plan– an opportunity to improve the team
To all you peons crying about what I am doing to MY team………GET OFF THE WAGON AND DON’T GET BACK ON!!!!!!!
I have total control AND will do whatever I want no matter what you losers think!
GO DUCKS!!!!!!
AWESOME!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I just want to make sure we’re clear:
Add QB Sam Bradford who has played 3 games the past 2 years after TWO ACL tears to the SAME KNEE
Trade for LB Kiko Alonzo who, at 23, has had 2 torn ACLs and hip surgery
Add RB Ryan Matthews who….fuck it, his injury list would take up the entire page
Add DB Walter Thurmond who has missed 41 games over the past 4 years due to injury.
Keep celebrating Koolidiot.
You left out Matthews is a fumbler Vinnie.
Andy Reid era all over again? He too loved injury riddled players as well
Hey I Have no choice but to hope this pans out. If it doesn’t.. who will be the coach in 2016. This is Kelly’s last year barring a Deep Playoff Run. This guy is not building a program he is building Frankenstein and shocking us all out of our graves. The best that can be said is so far we can get out from under all of this next year if need be.
So Vin and s few others are crying about the injury prone players we picked up but had no problem us paying Maclin the 10-11 million to keep him, the same Maclin who was only one season removed from the same kind of injury as those guys, only makes sense on this site. Maybe Chip believes whatever he’s doing sports science wise worked for Maclin n will work for them, let the guy sink or swin with this, we all know he can’t point the finger to know one else.
I’ve said over and over I completely understand the maclin release. Can’t pay $11 million for a WR.
But what exactly are you saying? You’re down with this MASH unit the Eagles are assembling?
Vin, whether were down with this or not it is what it is, do you realize our D can be something’ special the way it looks right now? I’m not going the route of the glass is half empty, thats not me, Dwayne Bowe is getting released today, we pick him up that’s another nice pickup, it’s a big IF but who knows, let it play oit.
Dewayne Bowe?????????
Jeeeee-zus.
Nice pickup???? Andrew, do you even watch football? He’s one of the biggest mutt, underachievers in the NFL! Just stop already!!!!
Good points Andrew…Chip has put his ass on the line…I hope it works out…I think getting rid of Shady and DJax are the dumbest moves that he has made…but he makes up a little for that by getting rid of Foles and not making him our Franchise QB…
For what’s available, and for our draft position…Chip Kelly is making the right moves for the QB position…its going to be very hard to trade up and get Mariota from 20…unless Mariota drops (a possibility) with this in mind Chip has secured some top rated talent with Bradford who he believes can run his system…he can draft a QB to develop…and hope to hold the fort down…keeping bum ass Nick Foles was not a credible option because Chip had no intention whatsoever to signing him to a long term deal…so rather than try to keep the kid on that bum ass rookie deal as a lame duck…he got rid of him
Good move!
I guess im the only one that likes this Ryan Matthew signing..keep him healthy chip!! He will do good in this offense..IMO!!
Just when people thought we had the worst gm in all sports-Reuben amaro. Chip “the beast” kelly steps up and says uh uh uh nah nah nah here I am.
Rhino, yes you are.
Eagles could still sign Murray
Keep in mind that Bradford and Murray are friends, they were roommates at Oklahoma
I think the Birds have a offer on the table
If the Eagles sign him along with Murray, I wouldn’t be surprised
Chip Kelly said they will not mortgage the future to trade up for Marcus Mariota
He also said Sam Bradford and Mark Sanchez are his QBs
He said everyone is on a 1yr season
No guarantees
Chippie Kotite???
Chip said they were offered a 1st rounder for Bradford this morning
I heard that too! He has that as a backup, I love how he’s going back at the media, they asked about Bradford n his two ACLs his response Maclin had two ACLs too how did he do last year.
Maclin wasn’t running the read option.
He’s gonna stop that shit?
‘Cause that’s gonna get Bradford killed.
I told you guys, Kiko is an OLB first and foremost but has the ability to play Inside because hes an athletic, smart, instinctive player
Dont be surprised to see him moved all over the LB position
Yeah.
This whole thing is fucking ridiculous.
So basically Sanchez is our starting QB.
No way brittle ass Bradford makes it through the year (though I will concede I said the same thing about Mac and he survived).
Wow. Ducking Wow. Yes. Ducking is officially a curse word.
No mariota lol
Look. I’m not a Mariota fan, but I was fine with him trying to get him.
Seems like something didn’t work out and for reasons I still don’t understand Bradford (fucking Bradford) was his Plan B.
Now if this results in us landing Murray. Then I will be less pissed. But he still got fleeced in that deal. “Alleged” first round offer for Bradford or no.
Would you be fine with Melvin Gordon? Kevin White/Coates?
– yes
– yes
– maybe
Actually I would Gordon first/DGB/Devin Smith in 2nd.
Then address guard through the draft.
White-definitely
Gordon-definitely
Amari Cooper-yes
Coates..wait til 2nd round
Exactly if Coates were a second rounder than yes.
He’s a little too raw to take too early.
No QB lol! Sam better stay healthy, the Eagles are one ACL tear away from Sanchez throwing multiple picks and games.
Bryce Petty welcome to Philly. They are trading up in the first for a WR. Don’t be surprised they take Melvin Gordon.
Trade shows Kelly thought Foles was a fluke. That simple.
Well hell anyone who wasn’t up Foles ass saw he wasn’t the answer. Doesn’t mean you give a 2nd rounder for a double ACL project.
So at this point I’m all just fuck it. This is all one hell of a gamble and I’m over it ’till they start playing games.
I can see that point TS but I also see close to 13mil disappearing if he doesn’t pan out.
This draft is high on skilled players.
I would George Jefferson walk if our first two picks were Gordon/DBG
“I would George Jefferson walk if our first two picks were Gordon/DBG”
Should that happen. I’m holding you to it. I want video.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Seriously.
I’m gonna mHenski you for my proof.
LOL
i can’t believe chip is selling me on Bradford right now. His talk game is incredible
Yeah just remember he used that same “talk game” for Nick Foles. And then shipped his ass right on out of here when the arts started to appear.
izzell I do believe we will draft petty. And in beckham and a young running back and I’m good with all this
Chip is the man!
That press conference was awesome
I guess hes letting the league know what it’ll take to get Bradford
A 1st round pick
And then some
Remember I said this^^^^
When you see Ryan Fitzpatrick get traded for. Cassell in Buffalo….
I have no doubt Chip wasn’t lying about the first round pick.
Ts I’m a big foles fan because of the way he played so chip never sold me on him. He just sold the shit outta Bradford and I believe everything he said. Everything he said about him was true he was just on a suck ass team with a weak system. Kelly’s system is aggressive. It puts up stats and points no matter what. If kelly gets 2 more wrs and a rb this offense will be fuckin nasty
Chip Kelly just bitch slapped the media…..and I LOVED IT.
To all the overacting fans….go listen to what the man has just said. He makes a ton of sense, probably too much sense for the majority of this fan base.
Chip Kelly could sell pussy to a hooker particularly to the Philly faithful and gullible.
Folk WANT to beleive. Doesn’t make the deal or the gamble any less bullshit. For all our sakes I hope that shit he’s selling works out. Or it’s your stating QB Mark Sanchez…and we know what that looks like.
Big must be crying in his cups right now.
Lol…I can’t disagree with you..that is pimp talk..real smooth….smdh!
RB Ryan Mathews has agreed to terms on a 3year, $12Mil deal pending physical.
Ok… So I was ready to sell chip for a bag of chips but somehow after hearing him speak…I feel better..
I like the straight forward answers and they make me feel like I have more of a grasp of what is going on.
This team needs a PR gut that puts out information.
Makes sense to me–> I (me) watched a video of all of Bradford’s throws and saw the same thing Chip Pointed out..The ball was there most times but he had TONS of drops by bottom tier receivers.
We now need Targets for the passing game.
He better have the draft of the fucking century.
This is why we never win anything
The fanbase puts too much pressure on the players and coaches
Impatient, ranting, crying and whining, STFU
Keep driving them out of town with your bull crap
JH…I don’t get on you, but that is bullshit. The teams have not won hear due to poor drafting, poor talent evaluation in FA and the draft, poor management and poor coaching. It has nothing to do with the fans and pressure..stop it..please!
We’ve had plenty of talented teams
If you’re talking about the eagles alone, weve had numerous nfc east titles along with a number of trips to the nfc title game
We have had more than enough talent
The media, the fanbase, blogs like this, the radio stations here in philly are all the problem
Impatience is the main issue
I wanna win too but damn, let it happen
Back the players
Back the coaches
Show support
Yea theyre gonna make some errors here or there but this seems like its something different
Chip seems like hes a step ahead of everyone else
All I’m saying is support the movement instead of fighting all along the way
People are already talking about booing Bradford as he arrives here
WTF?
He hasnt even played a down yet
Give this thing a chance to play out
Damn
R.E.L.A.X
JH, we could shut the media down here and shut the fans up..or cheer like crazy..that will not lead to championships..the FO decisions and players determine that..with a little luck mixed in.
Go kill yourself, you useless waste of oxygen! Now we are at fault for not winning a SB! I knew you were Schiller! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Fuck Chip Kelly, he ain’t drafting Gordon.
AND I like how everyone is forgetting….Bradford.Was.Going.To.Be.Released.
Chip wanted dude SOOOOOO Badly that he didn’t want to risk him ending up signing somewhere else.
AND as desperate as folk were for QBs he would have done more with Foles. You know like get a player for a position we needed and one that WASN’T coming off some major injury. Something.
Foles was bait for Bradford since the Rams realized how badly Kelly apparently wanted him.
Ya’ll keep believing that pimp talk. It apparently is NOT hard out here for a pimp.
SMDH.
LMAO..nope..it’s not hard out here for a pimp named Chip..not hard at all…so highly suggestible.
Chip Kelly is a pimp..real smooth with the words and a velvet voice that soothes the soul and tugs at the heart strings..Oh I feel better now after hearing Chip talk..c’mon man!
And if someone is offering a fucking first for Bradford…he punk ass not taking it makes him an even bigger fucking idiot.
That is all.
LMAO..YES!!!
Now that he’s made me feel like we aren’t giving up the draft for one guy, I feel a little better now. If he thinks SB is the man, than so be it. I’m glad that the R/O looks now to be a media/fan generated myth and we’ll roll with strong D/running game and a pocket QB with tempo and R/O as wrinkles. That’s all I hoped for in the1st place. Just wish SB had a bit more health on his resume. We shall see.
R/O as wrinkles?
Did you not watch the last 2 years of Kelly ball?
If r/o was going to be wrinkles why the hell weren’t they “wrinkles” when Mr. baby GIraffe was playing?
ALSO r/o CAN’T be just “wrinkles” when no one believes your QB is going to run. No one is going to bite on that shit with Bradford under center/shotgun.
It ain’t pimp talk tho. Everything he said was totally believable. Mariota or whoever comes in isnt a guarantee to ball out or not get hurt either. This man has a system that clearly works a he scouted a qb that fits everything he sees needed for a franchise qb and he’s not lyin about Bradford. He will ball out in this system IF he can stay healthy which isn’t guaranteed for ANYONE. Believe in ya coach…this dude ain’t no fool
With that logic we shoulda traded for RG3.
This is the system he made his bread and butter on. Read Option/Zone Read is his THANG.
And Gruden wants a more pocket QB.
So what he’s always oft injured. That shit could happen to anybody. Right? Right?
Chips system is not contingent on a running qb…he’s said it and his actions time and time again prove it….this offense will more resemble NE than it will Oregon
Was never in play for Marriotta
Hey EHL you mentioned that we did have specific terms on our bet…no Mariotta
You can beleive all that if you want to.
Once again…have you NOT watched the last 2 years of Ealges football.
Stop with the read option ish then. STOP. Because that doesn’t work with a slow footed QB – the defender has to BELEIVE the QB is going to run.
THAT’S my point. And he’s had TWO YEARS to make his system look like NE – it doesn’t – it won’t. Bradford will be out there on some r/o shit and we will be saying “WHY THE FUCK DOES HE KEEP CALLING THAT.”
You know like we’ve done with Foles playing.
Ts says RO doesn’t work with slow footed QBs….chip disagrees
Defenders did not believe Foles nor sanchez and now Bradford is going to run…u contradicted yourself
lol.
Bless you Cigar. Billionares are made off the gullible like you.
Oh ..interesting you are correct all three are actually speed demons and defenses were petrified . I think you were one of the idiots that said shady would suffer after Vick went down…brilliant
certainly did, he has to be available for him to draft him, whether it’s at 20 or a move up!
That’s why it’s pimp talk, because you can believe everything he said..fact is we do not know if what he is saying is 100% truthful, but it’s believed. I am not feeling everything he is saying..some do..pimp talk! For the record, Kelly has flat out lied before.
His ass is lying about that first.
No way in the hell you don’t take a first for Bradford.
Lying is what he does best, but if he makes this offense work it’s the 2nd best thing he does.
All coaches lie. Acting like Kelly is the only one is nonsense.
Who said Kelly is the only one?
If its true someone offered a 1st rounder for Bradford than the deal is actually quite fair. Let’s say Bradford is worth a first rounder and Foles is worth a second rounder. Trade Breakdown
Eagles Trade: 2nd round pick 2015, 4th round pick 2015, 2nd round pick 2016
Rams Trade: 1st round pick 2015, 5th round pick in 2015.
Wouldnt you say trading two 2nd round picks in separate drafts along with a 4th rounder is a good trade for a 1st round pick and 5th round pick? Based off this scenario I don’t think we got AS “fleeced” as everyone is saying.
And that’s if you beleive he’s telling the truth.
Go by Recent Performance, what Bradford did in Oklahoma and 2010,2011,2012 is Irrelevant…
He’s Played 7 NFL Games in the Last 2 Seasons