Eagles Director of Players Personnel Ed Marynowitz did a news conference today as a preview to the draft and he made sure to leave all kinds of options on the board for the Eagles.
According to the young front office hire, the Birds want to make all of their eight picks and “would rather have more picks than less picks,” They’re not interested in mortgaging the future for one draft pick. But Marynowitz did say there was one player, who they valued enough to move up to get.
I wonder who that is? Can you say Marcus Mariota.
In the same news conference, Marynowitz was asked about the team moving up to get Mariota. He responded, “Never say never”.
The Birds are trying to keep everybody guessing about what they’re going to do in the draft.
Personally, I think they’re going to be watching the board to see if Mariota drops and remains on the board longer than the experts think. If he does, I expect Chip Kelly to pounce.
Forget about being tired, I’m exhausted at this point with the Mariota talk. Emotionally I’m spent….
I personally can’t recall something that was so taxing to a city in regards to one player, that went on for months and months, especially when the % of actually getting the player was as small as it is.
Like I’ve said before unless they get mariota this will be the worst offseason ever..
Chip has taken philly by storm……im so excited for the draft….this is the 1st draft ever that I have no idea what the eagles will do….I do believe if cchip cant get mm he will trade back and get a extra 3 rd pick…..some of those teams in the lower half of draft need dbs or rbs….other then that go birds
Really worst offseason ever…more worse than hiring your offensive line coach to be your defensive coordinator. Or bringing in a dream team of free agents that absolutely busted.
you got the right name gloomy..
This will be the Eagles one of the Eagles best oftseasons ever…
The draft will be good…
I feel good about this upcoming season…
We made some bold moves and I got a feeling we are going to catch a break for a change…
He’s needs to trade out of the 1st if he can’t get MM and get as many picks as possible
Eagles Send #20 to the Colts for their #27th and their 3rd Round (#93)
Colts want which ever RB is left on the Board at #20 (Gurley or Gordon)
I believe Gurley will be Selected by the Falcons early on
Eagles then Send a 2015 5th Round Pick & LB Kendricks to the Raiders
for their 2015 3rd Round Pick .. (#68)
Eagles then have #27,#52,#68,#84 & #93 in the First 3 Rounds…
#27 – CB Byron Jones (U COnn)
#52 – Guard/Center Hroniss Grasu (Oregon)
#68 – ILB Stephone Anthony (Clemson)
#84 – WR Tre McBride (WIlliam & Mary)
#93 – OT Daryl Williams (Oklahoma)
Then use the 4th thru 7th Rounds to add a Safety, DT, WR
Yeeee-Haw! What is it? 7 days left?
Mariotta to San Diego!
Mariotta to the Browns!
Mariotta to the Eagles!
Get it done! Sanchez, Cox, Kendricks, Boykin and the #20!
Dont forget saints and redskins
He has to mean Bradford nobody wants sanchez + why would the eagles keep 13million over the 5million that Sanchez is getting makes no sense us they plan on trading them both and have tebow as the backup.
Ummmm….you said nobody wants Sanchez and then said the Eagles would prefer Sanchez and his 5 mil over Bradford and his 13.
So would everyone else.
Titans only have about 6 million in cap room left….so they can’t take on Bradford’s 13! Especially if they’re also adding Cox, Kendricks (who will both need to be extended) and anyone else.
Is anyone thinking about that?
Cox,kendricks,boykin# 20 and there 3rd pick
To the titans for #2 and Michael griffin
Then they ship Bradford to the Browns for #19
Gloomy leave the trades alone man that shit will never go the way u think
Headline the next day…Titans GM fired
44 I know it’s just fun to speculate
Anyone considering the fact that The titans are 9 million under the cap?
How are they supposed to take on Bradford, Cox, Kendricks (cap hit of 18 million) plus their own rookies?
(Btw Koolidiot…their cap hit is 18 million, but actual salaries only $15.5 – twit)
After rookies, they’ll have about $6 million of space to squeeeze those 3 guys in.
They would have to work out re-neg deals with all 3 beforehand (and still it would be tough). Bradford would have to be resigned at a much lower rate…something he’s already refused.
I don’t think its possible.
I have no idea what Vinnie is talking about I just checked overthecap.con and the titans are 26million under the cap
I have no idea what sites your looking at but the titans have between 23&26 million in cap space
Overthecap.com
Spotrac.com
Nfltraderumors.com
So they can afford Bradford,cox,kendricks& Boykin
Titans have cleared payroll and released a few Veterans this past Off-Season and should be in good shape Cap Wise..
Safety M Griffin, OT M Oher come to mind..
They Currently have no big name or big salaried Skill Players
At QB, RB, TE & WR ..
The 2015 NFL Salary cap is 143, 280, 000
OvertheCap.com has the Titans currently at $134,528,895
Sportrac has them at 132,000,000 (active contracts)
I split the difference and went with 9 million…..Seems right…of that they’ll need 4 million for rookies…..
Sportrac offers an “estimate” that they will have 23 million after cuts…but that’s just an guess…they also estimate the Eagles will be 10,000,000 under and we know that’s not going to be the case.
This is better than the deer hunter and the bullet in the chamber ..the tension is palpable ,and with ,the prize MM chip may ,be sly as a fox.Hes got his eye on a prize,but nobody knows if he is playing possum ,or is he hell bent? He’s as likely to do “anything” and that’s so anti AR ..that’s an upgrade in itself..only chip Kelly can own the airwaves ,splashing his “Eagle Brand” all-over the media.Its born out by there prime time exposure ..If nothing else there’s a buzz that is selling ,and it is a business,after all..
This is Tiring, you guys are nuts this is the most exciting draft in recent years in my opinion. It puts you in the mind of the last episode of breaking bad what’s going to happen what are the birds going to do. People are up in arms about us getting Tim Tebow correct me if I’m wrong but there was a rule change where you could switch quarterbacks where you couldn’t before. We have instant help in the red zone needless to say our scoring opportunity will go up at least 40%. Chip Kelly is not a mad scientist this F_ _ _ guy is a maestro and his best work has not revealed it self yet but it’s coming. A deal to get Mariota is done it’s been done since February I believe with this deal we going to lose some great young talent possibly two players and picks but in the end it’s going to be worth it. I’ve been an Eagles fan for over 43 years and this is the first time that I can honestly say we are going to win a Super Bowl in the next couple of years with the maestro at the Helm and I’M ALL IN.
Vinnie you do know that you can carry money over from the previous season they have 26million under the cap they can afford those players if they want them
I believe that “Carry-Over” is over for the Cap,or maybe has 1 more Year
I do know that starting This Year, Teams have to Start Spending a Minimum % on Player Salaries, Etc.. I think it goes from 92% to 93% to 94% to 95% over the next couple of Years
Paulman teams aren’t spending cause its still like 5 teams that has 20+ million under the cap
I have to think that some type of deal with the Browns could still be made. What about..
Eagles send pick #20 and Bradford for their pick at #12, plus their 1st rder in 2016.
Eagles then send pick #12, Kendricks, and (2) 2016 first rounders (CLE, ours)
***If it’s Cox to make the deal work, I’m willing to do that, but instead of us sending our 2016 first rder, we sub that out with a 2017 1st.
Jeff…put down the weed my friend… clevelands GM is already under fire… Bradford doesn’t get you that extra pick…
I know I say my dumbest things on here after a few single malts or even a few glasses of wine..but you must be on some good ganja for that.
Ha… I’ll stick to looking at players in the draft that I feel would fit what Kelly wants to do, and not any more Mariota trade proposals.
Browns have #12 & #19 this Draft
Do you really thing they would give #12 and a 2016 1st Rounder
for Bradford and the Eagles #20th ? Why would they do this..
They could probably package their own #12 & #19 to the Raiders, Jags or Redskins and get Marcus Mariota instead of the ? that is Sam Bradford
and Lock Mariota in for 4 Years and a much lower Salary than Bradford and still keep their Own 2016 1st Round Pick
You guys have been staring the Trade Charts too much, take a step back, go for a hike, get an Ice Cream or Italian Water Ice…
I find it hard to believe the Browns will trade their picks a move up for Mariotta. Drafting QB’s in the first round 3 out of the last 4 years is a bad look, especially if none pan out. I think the Browns are trying to drive up the price of their picks with the Mariotta chatter.
Now for Sam Bradford… his only true landing spot is Cleveland. The Chargers nor the Titans want him. He makes sense in Cleveland because they have McCown as a backup insurance policy and Johnny Manziel to run the 3rd string and get his life back together. Plus they would get the Eagles #20 pick and still be in play for WR or CB at that spot.
My Mariotta trade prediction is this:
Eagles send Bradford, Curry, the #20 pick, a 3rd rounder, and a 4th rounder for the #12 and #19 picks.
Eagles send #12, #19, 1st round pick next year, 1-2 2nd-5th round picks, and Kendricks to the Titans for the #2 pick.
They draft Mariotta. Trade Mathis to the Saints for a 4th rounder, and Boykin to the Dolphins for a 5th.
Then they draft with the first two picks:
#2: Marcus Mariotta
#52: G/C Hroniss Grasu /WR Aglahor / S Randall
As far as filling holes at OL and safety, there will be Veterans who will be cap-casualties once training camp comes along and a team can assess how their players have developed. A lot of times this is where you can pick up a veteran guard or safety for cheaper than Free Agency market prices.
IF they are unable to get Mariotta, I’d bet $20 bucks they draft Bryon Jones from Uconn.
2 years starting at Safety, a year and a half starting at corner. Extremely athletic and strong. Versatile. High football IQ. Unbelievable character. He fits the Marynowitz/Kelly 3 step process to a T.
So if my math is right MM costs us curry, Foles, next years 2, next years 1 and the ‘1-2 2nd-5th rounder’ and Kendrick’s?
So next year no 1 or 2 and they only draft 2 players this year?
I’m a Gelati guy myself.
It’s so bad this Mariota stuff, I dusted off the old PS2, Madden 2012 (Peyton Hillis on the front cover).
If a trade happens for Marriotta i think its going to be this and next years first from Philly and the Bradford for a pick to the Browns. With 3rd round picks and players in play.
Throw out the RG3 trade as precedent. It has failed so robustly no one is giving up what they did and even teams like the Titans understand that.
BY THE WAY WHERE THE PHILLIES LOSE 9-1 LINK!? Giancarlo Stanton hit one of the lowest home runs I’ve ever seen. Thank god Citizens Bank Park is a ghost town otherwise there might be a Phillies fan in the hospital judging by how hard that ball was hit.
Ha…. I expected a bad Phillies team, but not this bad, and so bad so early in the season…
Not sure those Wayback 9 stack burgers can fill the void of baseball at CBP..
Agree that Stanton HR flew off the bat — I read Hank Aaron’s autobiography and that is how the newspaper clippings used to describe Hammering Hanks HRs in the book. Line drive that the SS and 2nd Baseman would jump up to try to catch but it would go over the fence. That is what I would describe Stanton’s HR as.
NJ.com’s Mark Eckel passes along a “rumor making its rounds in NFL personnel meetings” of the Eagles trading Sam Bradford to the Browns for the No. 19 overall pick in the draft.
The Browns already offered No. 19 to the Rams for Bradford, prior to his trade to Philadelphia. St. Louis didn’t accept because it wanted a quarterback, and wound up acquiring Nick Foles. The Browns are “still said to have interest” in Bradford. Per Eckel, the rumor has the Eagles then sending Nos. 19 and 20 — plus Mychal Kendricks and Fletcher Cox — to the Titans in exchange for No. 2 overall, where Philly would select Marcus Mariota. Bleacher Report’s Jason Cole reported Friday that Bradford currently believes the Eagles may be planning to trade him.
Related: Browns, Titans
Source: NJ.com Apr 24 – 2:25 PM
Now that is reasonable…in the end that’s Foles, a 2 and cox and Kendrick and swap of first rounders…
The evil empire…oops I mean the nfl is a 365 day news cycle….
I still don’t see it making sense for Browns to do so..
They can Use #12 & #19 of their own and make a Deal for Mariota and
save them $$$$ and have a Future Franchise QB for years to come..
Why would the Browns give up some High Picks for Bradford and Pay $13 Million when you can have Mariota locked up for 4 Seasons on his Rookie Deal… makes little Sense, it’s not like Bradford is going to take the Browns to the Playoffs any quicker than Mariota would..
******* trade alert*****
Eagles send Bradford,cox,kendricks 
To titans for the #2
Eagles send Boykin & mathis to
The dolphins for Dion jordan and their 6th Rd pick
Eagles send Vinny curry
To the Vikings for corddell Patterson
Gloomy Wins the “GCobb GM of the Year Award” if these Deals Occur
and Free Pass to the Delaware Park Race Track and a 4 Hour Limo Ride with 3 Eagle Cheerleaders of His Choice
Paulman I’ll take it sign me up
Greg hardy getting into shit already with teammates coleman called him a woman beater and then they cussed each other out……you got homo predicting super bowls…..i see a major collapse for the cowbitches this year
I don’t think hardy plays a down this year.
Dez Bryant still pissed about call in Packer game, and No Big Contract with the Guaranteed Bonus $$$ up Front for Cowboys aren”t going there just yet…
Romo says he was willing to re-do his Deal after the Eagles already signed
RB D Murray… Why didn’t he say to do anything in January, Febuary
Loss of OL Coach Bill Callahan to the Redskins which will be a huge loss and a big gain for the Redskins
Loss of ILB Bruce Carter and Justin Durant… ILB S Lee is still iffy
DE’s George Selvie, Anthony SPencer leave for better deals
Have Contract issues with both CB Brandon Carr and Morris Claiborne and want both to take Reductions so that they can pay more to Orlando Scandrick (who is holding out) and Safety Barry Church (who is unhappy) .. so now their Secondary is in a quandry.. they may not win 8 Games next Season
LB McClain has a 3-4 Game Suspension as well as Hardy and that Back-Up RB who may get 2 Games for his Multiple Arrests
Yea they got a lot of problems
I hate to say it but the nfl and chip kelly need mm to become a eagle…..that would give the nfl great ratings…..if selected anywhere else nobody will care after the 1st month of season
Eagles take back offer on Polk making him an UFA which we all knew was coming, they just better hope Dallas who can use a RB doesn’t pick him up, when healthy the kid is a beast.
The crazy thing about this mariota trade isnt one of the main reasons murray is here because bradford recruited him here….thats a slap in the face to murray and bradfird but its the nfl shit happens
Z Murray is here because of that bread. If they asked Bradford to take a paycut to sign Murray he’d be like “Fuck DeMarco on the real” lmao
Lol bamma ass murray fuck that nigga lol
Omg i just watched some famous sanchez moments i still laugh hard as shit to the butt fumble…..it never gets old……but there is another one when he is lined up as a receiver and the corner jumps at him and he bitches up so fast jesus the guy is a pussy lol
Yo izell i know u live in the dmv area we gotta get together sometime and watch the game
Yo Z most definitely man. In DC there’s an Eagles bar in Georgetown if you are in DC on a Sunday. I rarely go to FedEx unless I get a DreamSeat hook up or prime Lower level…it’s one of the worst stadiums ever lol.
Z Sign of the Whale in DuPont Circle is the best Eagles (dive)bar in D.C…I post up there for big games or Rhino Bar(Georgetown).
Aite word man ill get your contact info when the season starts
Eagles need to keep picks and draft well. Follow the g bay model. If it means mediocrity for long term gain I am in. With the changes they made this off season I think drafting players is the way yo go. Stay away from the free agent circus going forward. I think this is what chip will do and eagles will be a real contender with in 2-3 years. Right now chip needs to hang on to picks and draft well. Bradford is good enough to help this team win
The Eagles have been building through the draft since it’s inception, it has yielded no SB’s so that strategy does not mean we will win one by continuously following it. Sometimes you must go out on a limb, do something different and take a risk for the reward. Green bay managed to get to franchise QB’s in Rodgers and Favre, without them they do not win their championships. Sam Glassford is not good enough simply because he can’t stay healthy, he has played 7 games in two years. The best ability is availability and durability, neither of these are Sam Glassfords forte. # do the deal. Build through rounds 3-7. I am tired of not having a franchise QB, we can not and will not win with the Sam Bradfords and Nick Foles’ of the world. Tebow and Sanchez is laughable, we simply have no top starting caliber QB on this football team now. That must be rectified ASAP…otherwise, we are just a step above the Browns, and to me, as an Eagles fan, is simply unacceptable!!!
Dude I think you are living in a fantasy land thinking we can get up to the second pick without making us worse off for a lot of years. Look at Washington. Stay the course is my opinion but I just some dude behind a keyboard.
It’s just a draft, nothing is impossible. It’s just how bad do you want the player. Fantasy, I think not. A willingness to pay the price is all it takes. The Titans have made it clear they are willing to trade the pick. I will not look at Washington and use them as the standard, Dan Snyder, inept coaches, and GM’s over the years have hurt them, not the RGIII trade. The Eagles just have to draft well in rounds 3-7. I ask once again, How many SB’s have we won doing things the conventional way with all of the draft picks we have had and chosen over the years. Only one of the seven picks we took last year really contributed.
Sam Bradford has shown nothing, his QB rating is below that of Geno Smith’s, and he is injury prone. Sooner or later the Eagles will have to sacrifice to get a true #1 QB. Mortgaging the future, there is no future w/o that QB, hell, the QB is the future.
I once wrote sarcastically trying to defend Nick Foles that if the eagles were to draft a Rookie QB in the first round ( Bridgewater or Manziel) they would take a step backward and it would be a complete rebuild. It is looking like a complete rebuild right now void of a rookie QB.
The Eagles have been drafting, but they have not been drafting well. Their picks haven’t been panning out well enough for you to say that building in through the draft will not work for them.Teams building through the draft, and drafting well have won more championships than those who haven’t. If the Eagles can string together 2-3 successful drafts I have no doubt they will have a great chance at winning a championship. Trying something different like you say is nothing more than chaos trying unorthodox ways in building a team is futile.
Mac, the fact is they have not drafted well enough to get that elusive championship. If the eagles can string together 2-3 successful drafts???, that’s hoping and wishing!!! percentages and history goes against that. Trying something different like making your O line coach the D coordinator is nothing more than chaos. Attempting unorthodox ways has not been proven to be futile as you say because it is done so infrequently there is not enough history to prove your theory. What I do know is that the chances of the Eagles winning with these stiffs at QB is futile, but going after a QB that may be a franchise player is good decision making. The Eagles do not have an old school Ravens type D or Seattle defense so a mediocre QB wins them nothing. Who do you think the Eagles can draft this year that will make an impact to get them to the NFC Championship by 2017 with the stable of QB’s we have on the roster?
Good point lewdoggie…we dont have enough to get up to the second pick of the draft…we just dont have it…but we have secured ourselves by grabbing Bradford…we will win with him
Chip kelly has ruined this franchise
Not yet Jake but if he doesn’t hit the lottery in this draft he is well on his way to singlehandly killing a franchise.
Reid didn’t hit the lottery til year 4 and was lucky to have a top pick to grab McNabb.
Reid didn’t draft well again until the Heremans Cole draft in 05.
Stop the chicken little nonsense.
Only 4 players out of the 11 players they drafted that year turned out to be any good. What do you mean by Reid didn’t draft well again until 05? Is it because they drafted Heremans, Cole, and maybe Paterson and Brown. You tie a few decent players to a draft, and say Andy Reid drafted well when the facts are that draft was fucken horrible.
Mac my point is Reid’s draft were far more hit and miss so the nonsense that this a do or die draft is just that nonsense.
The Lito/Sheldon/Westbrook draft saved Reid when coupled with McNabb.
Thomas Dawkins and Trotter weren’t Reid’s picks.
Killing the franchise really big…..I would have thought you would be off this sky is falling shit by now…..by the way cant kill a franchise that aint won shit……yawl been whining for a long time….let the shit go
lol yeah Z, killing it with his damn ego, he has no plan he’s just winging it. He has the power and right to do what he wants to do until it doesn’t work. This shit is ridiculous if Mariota doesn’t materialize look at this bullshit at QB, oh great Murray and Matthews can split 45 carries a game and hope the Gimp doesn’t blow out a knee handing the ball off. Oh wait Sanchez to the rescue. The Sixers, Phillies, Flyers ain’t worth shit and it seems like this guys ego is determined to have the Eagles join them.
Chip has gone 10-6 in back to back seasons. Don’t think that is ruining a team. Has he made some objective changes? Yes. But until he has a team on the field and produced negative results you cant say he ruined the franchise.
Seriously all the hate for chip kelly you would think this franchise won multiple super bowls and actually have a standard to live up to……guess what for the one zillioneth time we aint won shit so stop saying the same lame as shit about how oh no chip is destroying the eagles and we are too proud of a franchise to let this happen…..what the hell we proud of the empty fucking trophy case…..fuck that BS……just pray with tebow the shit works out and chip is a mad genious……ruin the franchise…..you gotta be fucking kidding me
Maybe the NFL knows something giving the Birds all these prime time games and btw stop with the this team hasn’t won anything yet bullshit. That’s a loser
ass mentality and a easy way to rationalize the bullshit GM job Kelly has done this off season. I just love how everybody points to Seattle and says they were in the Super Bowl who are their receivers? They’re not named Cooper, Matthews, Austin and Huff for damn sure.
Big I aint got no damn loser mentality I just cant sit on this site and say the same lame as shit……that breeds loser mentality…..so I dont agree with some of chips moves…..but to say hes killing the franchise its utter nonsense…….and always speaking in the negative will have no positive outcome……come on big bring life to your team by speaking it…..u a godly man the bible says speak life.
Well Z, I can’t come on this site and sing kumbaya everyday and consign on this bullshit. Being a fan doesn’t mean it’s all rainbows and sunshine. I don’t like the moves and I don’t like Kelly, especially since I have sat and watched for 2 years and everything I’ve believed about his fraud ass is playing out. It’s April the roster isn’t set so we have no choice but to sit back and watch the Genuis at work starting Thursday night. And being Godly has nothing to do with being a fan of a football team.
God has to do with everything but go ahead do u……I dont like some of his moves but who agrees with everything their team does
Kumbaya…..a bit draumatic i just said i dont like all his moves but to constantly bash and act like all is lost just becomes nauseating…..new material
That’s fair Z, I’ll wait until the next good move by the LLCB and I’ll sing his praises, and I have complimented him from time to time.
Lol ok big if you can compliment him one time without saying something negative at the end its a step forward l…..by the way I believe im the first one to call him lying little chubby bastard…..not sure just remember you or someone else laughing about it
Yes Z I did steal that from you and if he somehow steals Mariota I’ll stop bitching about the Gimp I promise.
At least wait till the team is fully organized to say chip is killing the franchise….the draft hasnt happened and already we are done
You really think we will go into the season with them at wr position…..the draft man the draft and somebody will get cut during training camp dude you act like the season starts tomm…..why judge now way too early….let the shit play out
Yeah we’ll see.
I love all the crying about how Kelly is killing the team… Sheesh guys..
Lands 2rbs that fit his system.
Lands a lb that fits his system.
Moves on from a Qb that didn’t possess what he feels is needed to win.
Lands a much better WR than we had.
We run the damn ball. We no longer bomb it on every play. We are building a tough physical D. We have won 20 games in 2 years under this guy. Stop batching.. Man up. Fly Eagles Fly.
*cb
Stevo, ou left out a few caveats.
“Lands 2rbs that fit his system.”
Maybe. One is coming off an unheard of 500 touches, the other has never played a full season.
“Lands a lb that fits his system.”
Maybe. And who is coming off and ACL teat……oh and who one of the best defensive coaches in the league didn’t seem to want to keep.
“Moves on from a Qb that didn’t possess what he feels is needed to win.
By adding a QB that has not shown what is needed to win in the NFL and has missed 60% of the last 6 years (back into college) with injuries.
“Lands a much better WR than we had.”
Are you talking about Miles Austin?????????
Ohhh…..
“Lands a much better CB than we had.”
Anyone would have been a better CB than we had…..but I think you are putting a lot of faith in Mr. 19 career starts Maxwell.
Damn Vinnie, back in January you were all gung ho and positive about the Eagles, defending them when Big, pman and I stated that the Eagles were not making the right moves. Since the departure of Nicky boy you have been all over their moves. Where’s that faith now?
Vinnie if we kept foles you wouldnt give a shit about the other moves and everybody knows it
oh wow… i didnt see this until now….
Good spin Vin. Anyone can spin anything… let me show you…
Leading rusher of 2015? or was it… overused back playing behind an amazing line and survived his first no injured season?
QB who had a hall of fame year and becomes our franchise qb or injury prone QB who had 2 so-so years who holds onto the ball too long, cant throw downfield, even with high end playmakers around him?
a CB who faces a teams best WR most weeks and was the highest rated player at a position we need BAD… or… overvalued and overpriced 2 or 3 CB on an elite D who is only good because of the talent around him?
Clearly… I said “CB” right after i typed WR… I have been on record over and again that i did not support letting JMak walk. I think it was a mistake. However…. im not going to pout about it and compare how many wins Jmak has over wins Austin has.
You are a 1 trick pony. That trick cost you the right to even be here…. but.. we get to endure you because you are not a man of your word.
BOOOOOOOOOOOM….nice fucking post STEVO……that’s why most fans on here don’t give a shit what vinnie says…..he only sees shit his way and don’t respect anything he says
You are both so right.
RBs never fall off a cliff after 400 touches (let alone an unheard of 500). Has never happened. Nothing to see here.
Ryan Matthews is an NFL ironman.
Sam Bradford has not missed over 60% of his starts dating back into college. Never happened. Nothing to see here. He does not have an 18-30 record. Does not have a comp% under 60.
Kiko Alonzo has not had 2 knee injuries. He also has not had hip surgery. He has not had 3 major surgeries to his lower body over the past 4 years, besides, it doesn’t matter as his job does not require him to run.
Miles Austin has a time machine and has been able to transport himself back to 2009. He has never had hamstring issues, and can fly right by defenders.
Byron Maxwell does not only have 17 starts at CB. He did not sit on the bench for 2.5 years.
The only reason I mistakenly bring up these complete untruths is because I love Foles.
LIKE I SAID YOU WOULDN”T GIVE A FLYING FUCK IF WE KEPT FOLES…..JUST STOP WITH YOUR DUMBASS STAT DROPPING
No. Noone said you were wrong about these things. I mean other things yes… But these players could be wrong fits. But what is better… 2 ribs that fit his system or 1 that doesn’t? What’s better.. Keep the 2cbs we had.. Or get the best Cb on the market? What’s better.. Keep the Qb that… Oh forget it.. You are hopelessly blind on that one. Good news tho… U are actually talking about D now. Congrats. Next week.. If you’d like… I can teach you how the special teams work.
Lol stevo stop you are killing me……how the special teams work
And Nick Foles has been a picture of stability and good health!
He’s been there for every snap and not either injured or riding the bench due to poor play!
The reality is that Chip Kelly’s moves are gambles
But it’s better to take some gambles rather than sit back and lose every year like we have been…no playoff wins in ten years
I’m all in with taking some gambles and face it, there are no untouchable Hall of Fame players on this team
Is this true Vinnie are you just angry because you can’t get a hard on anymore because your boy is gone?
Go make the move to get Mariota…
Eagles send Bradford, Kendricks & 3rd Pick (#84) to Browns for #19 Pick
Eagles then Send #19 & 20th Picks in 1st Round along with F Cox, B Celek
And a 2016 1st Round Pick to the Titans for the #2 Overall and Select Mariota
Too much for the 19th Paulman but I agree with the logic.
You could probably Substitute 19 for their 12
The final result, cost is the same..
Paulman if the Browns were already ready to give up a 1st for Bradford why am I throwing in Kendricks and a 3rd pick that makes no sense.
That was 2 months ago and things have changed..
Make the #19 the 12th Pick on the Browns Deal
And it still comes out to the same
Why pay so much? Cleveland would gladly give up the 19th for Bradford. They already made that offer and they still need a QB. Doubt Cleveland will move up for Mariota because he doesn’t fit their system and doubt they want to wait for him to get up to speed. Besides they will have to give up more than the 12 & 19th picks? The Eagles can can offer the 19, 20, Kendricks, Cox, Curry and Boykin.
Ain’t happening OPF
That was 2 months ago and now the Price/Cost for #19 will take more than QB S Bradford who has been reported to not even be ready for Football duties to late June/early July scaring off Teams abouth the shape of his knees
If Chip trades for Marriotta…..if another team throws in the third first and we get to keep our second this year I am all for it. I am fine with throwing in Kendricks or Cox as a main player with Boykins as a cherry on top.
# Do The Deal!!!
Relax EHL…something is going to get done Thursday. I doubt he sits on his hands.
Izzell..it’s draft week. I have been laying pretty low this year. In my Africa Bambatta voice “It’s Time!!!” I hope you are right!!!
Hahahahahahahahaha
EHL dude I would love to be around you for draft day your as hype as I am….I’m a draft lover
Z44, no doubt, I am hype on this like it’s game day.
Fuck it sometimes I like draft day more then the actual games….I have no idea why…all it is is people calling other people names….but I love it…lol
Eagles Send Bradford, Kendrick’s & 3rd Round
Pick #84 to Browns for their #12th
Then Eagles send #12, #20, F Cox , & 2016
1st Rounder to Titans for #2 Overall
In the end it will cost 3 1st Rounders,
One 2nd Rounder (For Bradford) and a 3rd
Rounder plus Kendrick’s & Cox
That’s the Cost for moving way up in the Draft
For a QB..
Bradford Kendrick’s and a 3rd to Cleveland is way too damn much for 12 or 19 your stripping yourself of assets before you even get to negotiations with Tennessee. They already did that with Foles which makes me think that they may already have a deal in place to justify giving up Foles, and a 2nd or that move isn’t justified.
I’ll give them 19,20 next yrs 1st and Kendricks
How do u get #19 from Browns?
Bradford is no longer going to be enough..
The Browns are in Drivers Seat and don’t have to
Deal with Eagles at all and have the Ammo themselves
With 2 1st Round Picks to go after Mariota themselves..
How do figure there in the driver seat the eagles didn’t need to make the trade back when they first got Bradford it would tip there hand for the draft if they did that….. plus if the Browns really want to draft another qb high I say odds are they won’t the Gm and the coaching staff will be fired in a yr or 2 which means they can either go with Johnny football or sam Bradford there choice… Bradford value hasn’t changed not the fact that they tried to offer the eagles 19 and Johnny football in a package for Bradford…. chip be smart Bradford for 19 and keep it moving I’m not giving up three 1’s cox,kendricks and 3rd that makes no sense not when the Browns are offering a 1st + johnny for Bradford then again chip is a rookie gm
If that’s your opinion Paulman then Cleveland wouldn’t need to drive up the price for making a deal for Bradford which is what your suggesting. They can just deal with Tennessee exclusively, and tell the Eagles thanks, but no thanks. You don’t just drive up the price for doing business with one team unless you are serious about doing a deal with that team.
They do the deal with the Eagles because the Browns would still end up with a 1st Round Pick in this Draft..
If Browns deal directly with Titans it would likely cost them both their 1st Round Selections, plus they get a Player from the desperate Eagles to boot in LB Kendricks
So in the end the Browns could end up with Bradford, Kendricks and still keep their 19th Pick and get the Eagles 3Rd Rounder (84th Pick)
Which is a pretty damn good haul for the 12th Pick …and would have
2 Starters from Day 1 in Bradford & Kendricks to go along with their Draft Picks…
With the other Scenario, the Browns would have to Trade 12 & 19 plus Future Picks for Mariota who may need a year to learn their System
So how do the Browns improve short term with doing this?
HC Pettiness & GM Farmer missed the boat last year with Johnny Football and their Owner is unlikely to give them another 2 Seasons to see if Mariota is NFL worthy…
I have been saying the Eagles need to get Mariota since he declared for the draft. I believe the Eagles are going to do everything in their power to leave the draft with him. It would be very interesting to see what Kelly could do with Mariota in his offense. # Do The Deal!!!
are you willing to give up the 2015 first rounder plus former round draft picks Fletcher Cox & Lane Johnson? That is what I would ask for if i was the GM at Tampa or Tennessee. I would insist on Cox and Lane Johnson as a must. I would want proven successful first round draft picks before unknown yet to be selected draft picks.
I do not think the Titans would want Lane, but to answer your question…Yes. I can replace them,,Lane easier than Cox, but I believe I could. # Do The Deal.
Michael Roos is going to retire so they need a tackle, Michael Oher was a bust signing last year and Taylor Lewan & Chance Warmack are not better OL than Lane Johnson. I think the Titans might want Johnson.
Good points, was unaware of their o-line situation with Roos. Yep, I would pack their bags and drive them to the airport.
Trade lane Johnson .. So we have Marriotta with me at right tackle, JP who had a miserable second half and gm cliff at right guard… No way
Dude, Lane Johnson can be replaced. I like Lane but he is not a franchise left tackle in my opinion. We are not talking about Johnathan Ogden..come on! He can be replaced!!! The way the Eagles are going to pound the rock this season, they would be fine.
Dude ehl cox kendricks now lane goddamn we gotta draw a line somewhere
Z, I did not say all three. I am just talking about players in general. Remember, Chip said all players on the roster is up to be traded.
EHL that trade would be beyond lopsided you don’t give that up for Marriotta.
IzzellI do it. I can draft Lane’s replacement, as I said Cox would be harder to replace, but I do it. I am doing this based on the belief that Mariota is my franchise QB for the next 10 years. It’s not lopsided from that perspective. # Do The Deal!
EHL I understand your angle but if I’m drafting Marriotta I’m keeping Lane and giving up Cox. Athletic versatile lineman is a weapon of you have Marriotta. Cox can be replaced.
I think Cox is the better player, now, and in the future. Lane is very good at run blocking, his pass blocking still needs a lot of work. Bye Lane!
We disagree on players EHL but I think we are both on the same thought. If Bradford can replace a first rounder somehow you do it. I’m even fine with Kendrick going as well. And I think he’s a special kid. Kiko and Kendricks with Ryan’s as depth is pretty awesome if they can stay healthy.
Izzel, I like Kendricks, but he is the one I would prefer to be traded with another player. I want ILB Stephon Anthony from Clemson to replace him.
ILB S Anthony has really moved up the Boards since the Combine and went from a Solid 3rd/4th Rounder to a solid 2nd Rounder , some even see him as a potential late 1st/early 2nd as he is one of the few 3 Down LB’s in this Draft
Packers,Cowboys, Colts,Seahawks all are high on him and have needs along their ILB Corps…
Stephone Anthony has been a 2nd rounder since the combine…
No he hasn’t GMCliff
LB’s Perriman, Dawson & McKinney were all ahead of him at the Combine
Now Anthony has moved ahead of them or at least on par withDawson…
Dang Cliff, you have been wrong a lot here lately.. You feeling ok?
Do you think this Draft really has 4-5 ILB’s rated as 2nd Round Prospects or higher? ??? Not these days they don’t..
And for the record, I was high on Anthony back in Dec & Jan and stated so many times during the off season ..
I had him listed in some Mocks until they traded McCoy for Alonso
and then extended Ryans Contract
Yes, I do…
Paul Dawson, Eric Kendricks, Stephone Anthony, Denzel Perryman, and Benardrick McKinney – all projected 2nd round picks
He was …..and when I told you he was, you stated that I was over drafting him by a round or two because he was a 3rd – 4th round prospect based on the mock you were gauging your projection on,
and then proceeded to tell me you rated 3-4 other ILB’s higher than him.
You were never high on him. You had him on one of your 100 mocks, AFTER, his name started to pick up steam with other teams. But after the combine he was rated a 2nd round pick – just like I said
LOL!!…Why do you do that Paul??
I was talking about Anthony in Dec/January, Combine was what in Febuary
All higher rated ILB’s going into the Combine showed poorly to average (Dawson, McKinney disappointed the most)
In fact you were very high on Mckinneyinthe fall ifi recall
Paul, put the Moonshine, and Jack Daniels down for a second, and chase your system with some water, take a shower, and get some rest bruh……
I swear sometimes I think you have selective memory bruh
No beer or whiskey for me Cliff
I stopped Smoking, Drinking Alcohol & Caffeine almost 3 months ago. I probably won’t have another Drink unless Chip Kelly gives up the Farm for Mariota onDraft night …
GMC usually paul claims a lot of players but I do remember him talking up Stephen anthony because I was touting Vic beasley and pman kept bringing anthony up
I remember that, but that wasn’t Paul. That was me. I was talking about Vic Beasley, and Paul went on with his reasons as to why he didn’t like him.
I mentioned Stephone Anthony consistently in my pre draft mocks. Then he stated that I had him mocked two rounds too soon. – as I stated above – I remember it well……your details of that are inaccurate.
Paul hates missing on a prospect he didn’t think much of – most of his are mediocre talents – so he’ll mention as many as possible, to claim he at least mentioned them. – instead of zeroing in on 7-15, and allowing them to prove he has the eye to identify the players from the pretenders.
Yes I remember me an you talkiing about it also….but I’m pretty sure Pman was talking about Anthony….Shit I don’t know for sure Henski need your excellent googleing of pass threads….lol
No I haven’t been wrong. We’ve differed on opinions, but I am not wrong.
You want to bet that all 5 ILB u listed do not all go off the Board by the 64th Selection…
ahhhh, (smh) ……and you call me stubborn…
no thanks bruh….too many people on here owe me money, and a case of beer over the years that never pay up…
I’ll be watching the draft like I know you will, and I’ll wait for it.
I believe you still owe me for Konya Ealy falling to the 2nd Round last Draft as I stated he would when you were certain he would be a 1st Round Selection . The Panthers got a Gift at #60 last Draft
This will be an interesting Draft no doubt and a huge one for Chip Kelly and the Eagles moving forward… They need to come out with 4-5 Solid Picks on Players who will compete and contribute
I fear Kelly will go all I for Mariota while trading some Players and High Draft… But we will all havetowait and see what he does..
As in every Draft, they will bePlayers that Drop out of 1st Round due to character issues,injuries or poor performances in combine, interviews, team or college work out days..
I see that Randy Gregory has Fallen but still will bea 1st Rounder
OT Clemmings, WR Strong, CB J Collins, OT Okubgwige CB Peters DT J Phillips TE M Williams and WR DBeckham-Green probably fell into the 2nd Round as Players like WR Perriman, Aglohor, CB B Jones, OT Humphries, DT Malclm Brown CB Kevin Johnson have all moved up into the late 1st Rd
LyingassCliff can’t bet…he has 21 kids by 19 women and 11 are prepping for the combine. Shit is expensive….
That they did Paul. I’m curious to see how he does his sophomore year.
When I get to Charlotte Dinner on me at the Ballantine Country Club my friend
more trade up loot talk to get Marcus Mariota mocks than actually what the eagles will do if they select the #20 pick mocks
How much Cap Space do the Browns have?
Remember Chip Kelly has stated that he will not trade a bunch of Future Draft Picks for 1 Player, but what if Kelly loads up on Players to trade instead
How about if Kelly Sends Bradford, Sproles, F Cox & M Kendricks to Cleveland
For both the Browns #12 & #19 Picks
Now Eagles have 12, 19 & 20 Picks to the Titans and get QB Mariota without mortgaging future Draft picks…
Eagles then use Draft to Select DL & OL & Secondary
Hey paulman if that’s the case then if I’m them I wait to see how far he falls after that then cause if he falls to 12 then you can get him for nothing.
If Titans pass on Mariota or don’t Trade Out then the Eagles would likely have to get down to #4 and ahead of the Redskins who would find a Trade Partner
At #5 for a Team wanting Mariota (Cleveland, Texans, Chargers, Bills,Jets) just so that the Eagles don’t end up with him…
The Redskins would love to trade back anyways for morepicksandifthry coulddosowhilemaking sure the Eagleshaveno shot at Mariota, then it would bea Win-Winfortheir new GM who has made some nice moves already this off season
.
Tons of chatter down here in DC Redskins trade up to number 2 select Williams. If Titans still want Marriotta he would be available at 4.
Marynowitz said he identified 8 difference makers in the draft — Redskins don’t have to move to get one of those guys. I wonder who those 8 guys are? could one of the difference makers be a red flag guy like Randy Gregory?
Good question E0S, I like Randy Gregory.
Marynowitz also said that they would also move up for one of those difference makers. They know how many draft picks they are willing to part with and have an internal definition of what mortgaging the future is.
They may draft 8 players, may draft 6. 4 days and 23 hours to go!
The 8 Difference Makers that Marynowitz was probably referring to
QB – J Winston & M Mariota
RB – Todd Gurley
WR – Amari Cooper & Kevin White
DL – L Williams
Pass Rushers – Dante Fowler & Randy Gregory
How the hell is Gregory going to be a difference maker sitting in a damn rehab with Gordon and Blackmon? Dude will be suspended by week 4.
It’s only Strike 1 against him Biggy meaning he will have Counseling and maybe some Community Service to do but no Suspension for his first failed Test now he will get tested weekly and if he fails again he would then be suspended for 4 Games but not on first Offense
And technically he has not even been drafted or signed a NFL Contract yet so legally he may still have “zero strikes” against him
With the dropping in the Draft and loss $$$ his penalty for a poor decision..
But it is very possible that the Eagles already took Gregory off the Board so maybe the 8th Difference maker is OLB Vic Beasley
Or NT Danny Shelton or OLB Shane Ray…
or Alvin Dupree
Dupree has also moved up and probably goes anywhere from #6 to #14 and reminds of a young Aldon Smith type..
I’m seeing more than one mock with Todd Gurley in the top 15 even the top 10….which is unbelievable.
Also shows teams don’t fear injuries like they used too.
I think he may go #8 to Falcons, #14 to Dolphins # 16 Chargers
Browns & Lions could use a RB ….
Once you hit the 20’s Teams like Ravens, Panthers, Cowboys,
& Patriots could all look at RB
Did we bring Odell Beckham in here for a visit last year?
I don’t believe they did..
WR’s Brandin Cooks, J Matthews, A Robinson, M Lee
I recall bringing in last year
Mike Evans too right?
If that’s the case and with Kelly’s man crush on ODB that sneaky bastard may trade up for a playmaker like a Cooper etc. that they didn’t bring in.
Which makes perfect sense if the reports that eagles are one of the most thorough and visible people at these kids pro days etc.
I do think that Mike Evans visited NovaCare last year…
I think the Eagles may make a move for Kevin White Who could go anywhere from #6 to #19…
Paulman, not trading up last year is where the major crack in Chip/Howie relationship happened IMO.
I don’t think Chip lets a game changer he thinks he can have get away again.
I agree 100 with that if kevin white get passed jets we make a move
Kevin White is dropping a tad, many are concerned about a 1 Year Wonder .. Playing at WVU Spread, high tempo system would be an easy adjustment to Chip Kelly’s Scheme as a Receiver
I don’t think he drops to #20, but I think he,s on the Board between 10-15
Yo I just heard a crazy rumor from my boy in atl that they are trying to trade matt ryan and their 1st rd pick for jameis…..they believe ryan is capped and lovie loves his veteran qbs…..oh boy i love the draft
Ryan is definitely capped.
He’s getting no better than what he already is.
Oh yea he is a one and done playoff qb if atl is smart they move on from him and trade him why he still has value
that would be a dumb ass move for Tampa…Ryan sucks…
I expect the deadskins to trade djax either on draft or after they are carrying too much money at wr position and the fact he just got his own reality show puts him out that he dc door and into oaklands house
To tell you the truth that would be good for derek carr to have kevin white…..djax….. and holmes in the slot thats a nasty trio…..that would be fun to watch and dont they crabtree.,..oh boy thats a hell of a corps
Wouldn’t be a bad move for Oakland at all.
Interesting to see if something like that happens.
I hope it does at least carr has the tools to get the ball to djax…..that would make them potent on offense
You know djax would sign an extension there….add another 4 years and hed have his final big money contract…..i hope they do it
Yo paul our boy lyerla the te from oregon is trying his ass off to get into the nfl again…..he has been in the substance abuse program for 18 months….I would give him a shot the man has major talent
Colt Lyerlie.. Haven’t hear of him in a while, it’s a shame for he was Talented
Would you give him a flier
No I wouldnt, he hasn’t played competitive Football in 2 years
I did think the Eagles need to add a TE this year to groom for Celek who
Maybe has 1-2 Years Tops left in him..
I would but i understand the whole years off from football is hard to come back frm…..but the guy is aaron hernandez talent wise
He missed most of his final Season too at Oregon where he left the Team to go to rehab.. It’s really been 2 good Years since he has played..
I think chip is trying to find a way where he gets mariota and keeps #20 don’t know if he can do it but I think he’s gonna try.
If chip can’t get mariota I think he should Bradford for 19 and Johnny football
In my Busta Rhymes voice….”there’s only 5 days left!!!” Lmao
Espn or NFL Network draft coverage?
I think Boomer, Gruden & Kiper are the crew at Espn.
I don’t think the NFL Network shows the players’ table and family.
I want to see the draft pick get hugs from Mom and check out the sisters and girlfriends all dolled up. Not look at Eisen and Goodell all night.
I like the NFL Team of Mayock,Charles White, DJ and Mariucci, with imputs from McGinest, Irvin, Faulk but I cannot stand Heath Evans
On ESPN I like Gruden and even Kiper is knowledgeable about Prospects, & Teams needs but Berman, Mortensen, Chris Carter, Keshawn Johnson and Trent Dilfer are a bit too much to handle
I do like seeing the Players in the Green Room with their Families,Agents, etc.. It’s a huge emotional roller Coaster for these guys who are about to reach the pinnacle of all their hard work & dreams…
I also like the newer announcers on NFL like Chris Conley, Nate Burleson & Ahmad Green, these guys are knowledgeable, funny and positive
In their comments…
Agreed w/ new blood at NFLN
I usually spend more time on NFLN…but do some channel surfing….
Eisen > Berman
Mooch = Gruden
Mayock > Kiper/McShay
Charles Davis/D. Jeremiah > any buffoon on ESPN
Hate the Deion Sanders interviews and emphasis on the Goodell hug. Shefter and some insight from Kiper/McShay are the only things that make ESPN bearable. But I’ll just keep an eye on Shefter’s Twitter posts
Anyone follow draft on Twitter? Any must follows during draft?
I bump into Cooley all the time down here. His post game and next day analysis on games are AWESOME. He is one of the most unbiased players I’ve come across and I hate listening to skins players on the radio. He’s a future star on TV if he wants to be.
The former TE Cooley?
Yes the former TE
Yes Paulman. He breaks down games before and after from a player perspective and he pulls no punches for the hometown team. His breakdown of the Eagles the first time they played last season was awesome. He goes through specific plays defenses etc.
Hes a must to listen too.
Dude I listen to the drive everyday…he is hilarious and really knowledgeable…..the guy they have on Tom lavero or something like that his voice is unbearable but he’s realistic about the skins…..Brian mitchell is ok sometimes but hes a homer….Cooley is the man tho
Cooley and the gang Galdy…..lol
What the hell is james harden wearing a damn skirt…..lord he tryna be a bruce jenner
I do not understand why Adrian peterson is fighing so hard to be traded…..You beat your kid in the private area…..even though it was an accident I guess…..you still got payed…so what if one damn guy didn’t back you….I mean you the one that made a mistake……just shut up and play……I’m glad Minnesota is putting too high a price for him for anybody to get him
The Vikings will Deal him… Coach Mike Zimmer is old school and saying all the right things now but believe me, he is not going to want AP around his Team as they move forward with many new Young Players and Coach’s that never played with AP since he missed most of last Season
I believe he will be dealt to the Cowboys for their 1st Round Pick , CB M Claiborne and a 2016 3rd Round Pick
***New Trade Rumor for Mariota*****
Reports out of Chicago has the Bears sending QB Jay Cutler & their #7th Pick & 3rd Round Pick to the Titans for their #2nd Pick to nab QB Mariota
Both Teams have yet come to an agreement to a new deal for Cutler who played his College Ball at Vanderbilt which is in Nashville and is owed $127 Million Remaining on his Contract but only has guaranteed $$$ thru the 2016 Season… Word from Cutlers Camp is that he is willing to take a Cut to get out of Chicago and of course the Bears with a New GM & HC John Fox have no vested interest in keeping him..
EHL…as we get closer I think its Marriotta and OL/WR with the first two picks(if we can keep the 2nd) or trade up for top OL or WR.
Izzell, that would be what I am looking for. OL, CB, and WR is definitely up there. Mariota is my main target.