I was feeling pretty good about the Eagles draft until their third selection. Once the Mariota pipe dream was over and offensive line went off the draft board early to some of our NFC East rivals, I felt it was cornerback or wide receiver with our first pick of the 2015 draft.
Agholor in round one, at the time, it was between him and Perriman for the wide receiver position or Jones to help in the secondary. I preferred the skill-set of Agholor over Perriman, and would have been just fine with taking Jones. Agholor I don’t see as Maclin 2.0, I feel their measurable are very similar, but I think Agholor can be a better pro in the NFL, and I’m excited for the young trio we have at the wide receiver position for years to come.
Day 1 of the draft, I went to bed happy, a feeling nobody had last year after day one of the draft.
Preparing for rounds two and three of the draft, upgrade the secondary and offensive line. When was Eric Rowe going to go in round two? Would Fisher drop to pick #52, and how would Chip decide between a Ute and a former Duck?
I looked at all of the teams in front of the Eagles, and there were certainly a few that I felt could take Rowe, which Chip may have also believed to have been true. I felt this draft had better depth at offensive line in the mid rounds and that the talent level in potential safeties really dropped off after the second round.
Chip may have also felt this way as he traded up to ensure he selected “his” guy in Eric Rowe. Mixed reviews from the gcobb.com fan base throughout the pre-draft process on Mr. Rowe. I like the upside of the guy, and yes he did play for “Utah.” Eric Rowe I feel can turn into a similar player of another Eric who played at Utah, current San Diego Charger Eric Weddle.
With sending “both” fifth round selection to the Dolphins as part of the trade, a round where I really liked depth at cornerback, I felt it was necessary for offensive line and cornerback to be the next two player positions selected.
Then the selection of Hicks went down. Chip elected to add “depth” at the inside linebacker position when there was already a question mark with how “proven starter” Kendricks would fit into the line-backer mix.
Offensive line was the top need left for the team to address, however; prior to the start of the draft I mentioned how Chip and the coaching staff felt very excited about players currently on the Eagles roster. Gardner, Barbre and Tobin, Chip truly believes that all three guys can be starters for the Eagles for the upcoming season.
Will the Eagles go offensive line in round 4? Plenty of talent to begin day three of the NFL draft. Jamil Douglas is a name I would really like to be called on Saturday. The former Arizona State offensive lineman has experience at both guard and tackle.
With taking an inside linebacker in round three to shake up how people felt about the Eagles draft, would Chip stick to his “best player” strategy and perhaps select a quarterback like a “Hundley or a Petty” if they fell to pick #113.
Could Boykin be traded on Saturday to get another pick?
Four picks left to make as it currently stands. I’m looking forward to the end result, and would appreciate more “head turners” rather than “head scratcher” moves by Chip.
Remember when the eagles actually made a selection…this wait for the 6th rd is brutal. ..
It is absolutely brutal. But hey, next year we will not even remember the wait while selecting twice in the third.
Lmao YUP
Selecting Twice in Round 3 after sitting out Round 2 in that dumbass Bradford Deal..
That 3rd gets them right back into the 2nd easily.
And cough up 4th & 5th Rounds again…
Bottom line to me this Draft was that Eagles were going in with 8 Picks and a few Players on the Trade Wire and to only
Have 3 Selections so far Picks out of the Top #190 Selections is not good enough for me, especially when the Eagles have so many Roster Spots still to fill .. No additions to the OL & DL will be the downfall of the 2015 Season, they sustain an Injury to LT, Center or Fletcher Cox, this Team and Season is doomed..
Agree,… can’t wait for these 6th rders..
Eagles must have traded one of their 6th round picks… Nice day here in Philly, they must be getting some golfing in.
Some corner from Kansas, JaCorey Sheppard, I guess no oline again this year.
Oh, my mistake, I did not see their 191 selection.
Picked up a CB with out first pick in the 6th, Mayock gave him a 4th round grade, good pick!
2 corners back to back
I like the Jacory Shepard Pick from Kansas State needs to beef up a bit, has long arms, rangy, smart kid and high Football IQ & Character Player and has a shot to make it
The other CB from Kansas State I am not familiar with but Safety Derron Smith was still on the Board
Steelers take my DT Letarrius Walton fromCentral Michigan
Chip must like the O line depth and feel very comfortable with them, second straight year with no o linemen drafted. Hmmm.
Where’s Vinnie lol, the new style defense in effect 1 down lineman 5 linebackers and 5 corners baby.
I can see that on passing downs tho…1-5-5 defense
Its too nice a day here to be sitting inside watching that mess.
Here’s my only comment (well, right now anyway)
The 2nd most important area on a team (after QB) is OL.
Chip Kelly has had 3 drafts. 20 picks. 1 offensive lineman.
That’s a joke.
Just gorgeous out down here in NC, (Full Sun about 65 Degrees with nice Mtn breezes) I mowed the yard, put some fertilizer and grass seed down, trim the front bushes and got the Planters boxes all prepped for some new flowers/plants..
Now cleaning out the Grille for a cookout of Pork Chops/Steaks for Dinner..
85 degrees here stuck working for 30 more minutes and off to basketball practice and then kicking back and watching the fight.
It was sunny and 21 degrees (70)….slow afternoon drinking margs and grilling up chicken for fajitas….off to a friends for the fight later.
No way was I sitting inside whatching that.
And what was to watch anyway….did the Eagles even have a pick. Did they pick anyone??
2 good picks…then a guy they didn;t need way to early (had to as no 4th or 5h rounders) and then a couple of flyers in the 6th and 7th.
Wow, exciting……
The’ll b a bunch of UDFAs coming here, Mathis will be back n it looks like barbere on the other side, we’ll b fine this year, next year? Since DBs look set, LBs look set, WRs look set, D line, RBs, only needs will be is O line n maybe QB if Bradford doesn’t work out, we’re gonna be fine, as your doing all this complaining Vin progress is being made, remember, this year we’re gonna have 3 all pro O linemen starting with a young stud in Johnson n an upgrade over Herremans who was a weak link on that line, worry about 2016 when it gets here
Agreed.
Disagree, there is no way I consider Kelce & Mathis as Pro-Bowlers after each missed significant time.. Peters is declining faster than Fans think
This OL is no longer a strength or best in the Division
I expect a big step back this Season where the Defense improves but the OL & QB Play just don’t get it done against the better Teams
Eagles Finish 7-9 and behind the Giants & Cowboys
Paulman, your dead wrong! When those guys came back from injury Shady went back to being shady, how was he with them out? Regardless of what u think the league said Kelce was an all pro n that’s coming off an injury, watch him at full strength this year, as for Peters? Him in decline is still better than three quarters of the LTs out there, as I stated, our O line will b fine this year.
“progress”
WR is juiced. Who the fuck cares? WR is irrelevant.
1 OL pick in 3 years is relevant.
QB or Bradford, Sanchez and Tebow.
I mean that’s laughable.
But good WRs (maybe) so we’re on track!!!
Biggest question of the weekend. Why is the LLCB picking a fight with Mathis?
He does not like him, not a Chip Kelly type of guy. To much tude.
Big, after Chip’s presser that went into LLCB aka Barney Rubble discussing Mathis..Mathis responded on twitter “DEEZ”..Lol.
Lol I saw that EHL. Something is up with Mathis league wide. This is a very OL that even his peers don’t recognize with a Pro Bowl nod. You merely need to look at what the Pats for Logan Mankins.
Izzell, I don’t know what is up with him…but that was funny as hell. He and Kelly need a sit down!
its simple with Mathis…he wants a bigger contract and around the league no one is giving big dough to a 33 or 34 yo guard All pro or not. Jabari Evans and Ben Grubbs killed that market. If he was locked into a deal I think he gets moved.
I know he wants another contract but he has to realize that the way he is approaching it will not work. He was given permission to seek out a team to get a new contract from and his search yielded no offers..that must tell him something.
On top of that Drew Rosenhaus is his agent I believe. If Drew isn’t running his mouth saying there’s interest he’s screwed lol.
Looking at this draft, I would have gave it away for Mariota. #underwhelmed.
How many times will we hear “Mariota to McBride” over the next 10 Seasons
Titans Draft WR Tre McBride with their 7th Round Pick
Tre McBride will be practice squad material. I don’t see him being there 3 years paul.
He’s got a real good shot to make the Titans 53 Man Roster which is not real deep at WR
Eagles Veteran Players Mathis,Cox,Kendricks,Boykin are getting Support from other Players to oust HC Chip Kelly
Owner Jeff Lurie has a huge decision to make soon for Chip Kelly has lost this Team, the Locker Room and Players have lost Respect for him on how he Treats Players …
Lol, an Eagles coup, that would be crazy.
Of all the baseless, stupid, idiotic things you have said…and there are thousands this one wins
Lol yup HAC
Some players (if not drafted) I would like to see the Eagles bring in as UFA.
TE Wes Saxton
S Anthony Harris
S Cody Prewitt
Wes Saxon is a great Athlete and surprised no one took him
Watch him hook up with the Falcons/Saints oR Titans
Safety Anthony Harris of Virginia was originally a 2nd-3rd Round Prospect back in December but injured his Knee and fell off the Board, at 6-0 192lbs, he is not what Kelly is looking for
Cody Prewitt is a Thumper, Special Teams Player
Watch for Cowboys,Rams, Saints & Texans pursue him…
Oh ok, I was wondering why Harris slipped. I would love for Saxton to come to Philly!
‘QuestionBle 3rd round pick’…ok I have a question for you… How much Texas football did you or any poster watch? And if you did how much attention did you pay to their ILB? Come on..you guys are nuts…questionable pick. You would have to study COACHES film 24/7 to know or understand if a pick is good or bad. It’s such knee jerk bullshit based of an equally uninformed web sites opinion. All I hear is ‘reach’ or ‘project’ or other such non sense….I question how anyone can say a safety from Utah is good or bad… So let me guess you watched Utah one half against BYU in September and the guy you focused on was Rowe…shut the fuck up!
Great story, former Green Beret Nate Boyer who went to Texas and played LS for the football team was just picked up as a UFA by the Seattle Seahawks.
That’s awesome, I was hoping the Eagles would pick him up ..
A great story and a true Hero, Congrats Nate Boyer & Seahawks for giving him an opportunity
Rams GM trades the Disgruntled RB Zac Stacey to the Jets for a 7th Rd Draft Pick who demanded a Trade after Rams Selected Todd Gurley with the 10th Pick.. Jets got a solid RB for the #224th Pick..
Eagles are picking up O lineman from undrafted talent pool. They also signed Texas WR John Harris 6’2″ 218, 4.57 40 time.
Undrafted O linemen? How exciting!
Lol. Next phase…OTA’s and training camp. We will see. Hey, they went heavy defense this year, next year heavy on O line…perhaps.
For all those that think Mariota is gonna go to the Titans n have this great success, here’s a look at other QBs that came from Oregon
Akli Smith
Joey Harrington
Kellen Clemens
Dennis Dixon
Bill Mushgrave
Chris Miller
My point? Based on that history, Mariota’s only chance was if he got drafted by Chip.
Andrew p, I obviously wanted the kid here but that did not happen. I hope he is successful despite the QB history of his alma mater.
did any of those QBs win the Heisman?
For all those crying about us not drafting an O lineman, 5 UDFAs signed so far, 3 are O lineman, like I said earlier about this especially to Vinny, RELAX!!!!!!
3 Undrafted FA?!? Wow! Exciting!
All three were projected from 5 to 7 rounders, that’s called good value to get them as UDFAs but I hear ya Vin, your just not happy regardless, your poor wife!
You are absolutely right!
And one from the University of New Hampshire no less! Colour me impressed!
OH shit we got devante davis that guy is a target monster…..that’s a great UDFA…..good job chip
Cooper will have some competition this training camp. Davis is a good signing.
they compare him to dwayne bowe
Yes I saw the comparison. It will be nice if he pans out.
That’s actually a great comparison the guy gets better with more touches…..he feeds off the game…..I’ve watched him play he is a monster to deal with
I’ve watched a lot of UNLV games this guy Davis is my favorite pickup of the whole draft…..I know he will be our starter on day 1…..that’s how dominate this guy is
Again….we traded a coach who was forever planning but never reacting, for a coach who is forever reacting and never planning.
We have an average backup about to take over as RG starter.
The Kelly/Mathis “feudw gone public with them trading public barbs at one another today…..Kelly didn;t see this coming….there have been probs with Mathis and his contract for 2 years. Kelly doesn;t know how old Peters is??
How, when looking at the RG empty slot, Mathis probs (age and contract) and Peters age do you go 2 years without drafting an Olineman???
Oh that’s right….because there are a bevy of undrafted FAs to choose from!!
La’el Collins states that he will be meeting with the police on Monday. Once his name is cleared he will immediately sign with a team. If this guy is clean and checks out, the Eagles need to put their all into signing him. He was originally on their board but taken off after this sad news came up.
A UDFA has a chance to swing an offseason for the entire NFL.
If he is clean…GO GET EEEM!!!
collision, no way all 32 teams red flagged him – Goodell had to influence that
If the police clear him he will be fine.
oops, Collusion – How did 32 teams red flag him? – no way
I stated when the News Broke that NFL would deem La’el Collins would be off limits until they fully investigated which will take weeks/months
There is no way Roger Goodell is taking a chance with Collins until the Authorities and the NFL Investigators clear Collins and this will take a while
Did anyone see Pats Owner Robert Kraft on the Witness Stand a few weeks back in the Hernandez Case… No way is the chance of this happening again..
You can’t draft him with this situation looming. He also stated that if he did not get drafted on Friday he was not going to play. Teams were scared off by his situation and I can’t blame them at all.
yup if he gets charged now or in the coming weeks he is ‘former LSU player”–if someone drafted him he’d be “NFL rookie of the Eagles….”
I’m giving the Eagles a solid ‘B’ for the draft…the needed a few o-lineman in this draft instead of just stocking up on Cornerbacks…but its a good solid draft. filled the holes that we were most deficient in last year. Shored up the defense which cost us at least 3 games last year. A lot of competition at the corner and inside linebackers.
When we look at the oft-season on the whole…you have to give us a solid B+! We filled our most glaring holes….the defense..and we nabbed a receiver that will replace the lost of Maclin! Good job!
typo…we needed a few offensive lineman instead of just stocking up on Corners…that knocks the grade from an ‘A” to a B…
However…all things considered..this was a good draft with solid pick ups!
I’m going to give chip a “C” for his first fully in control draft. I like rounds 1 and 2, the cbs in Rd 6 are fine. My issue is rd 3, to go the direction of hicks who I had a late 4 to early 5 grade on when multiple offensive line prospects were available, that’s poor strategy.
Seeing the run on offensive line in Rd 4 go off the board, and knowing the drama with mathis, the potential starters in last year’s backups of barbre, gardner, tobin… the worry about our 2015 o line really kicked into high gear.
I’ve heard multiple times that the o line blocking for bradford was awful…how much better will the one be blocking for him this year. .
Chip needs to have a cold one with mathis and call a truths…
Jeff how did you come up with your grade? How many hours of coaches film did you wTch specially on hicks?
The grade isn’t based fully on what hicks may or may not be on the football field. I watched tape, I’m not going on record and saying I know the full bio on hicks.
The grade is more of my strategic grade for chip, allowing himself to not be in control of upgrade with o line in Rd 3, hoping and waiting in a non control position in Rd 4 that one would fall.
The o line went from being one of the best in 2013 to a huge hole, one with no additions via the draft since taking lane johnson.
Hicks could very well be that 3 down lb… but we had enough depth at ilb to focus on an immediate o line need in Rd 3.
Obviously, not addressing the Oline is a head scratcher. But the LLCB I think is showing his plan and I think there may be some guys in the roster that he thinks higher of than we do. Didinger said they are very comfortable with Barbre. I think we would all agree that secondary was the biggest problem…by my count 2 or 3 FA and 3 picks…reminds me a bit of the year they drafted taylor and sheppherd ….biggest weakness then address it.
It will also be very interesting to see how some of the late round guys and even UDFA turn out. You have got to hit on a few late round guys.
Yes that was a good DB draft for us……I Believe we got SHeldon and Sheppard….and what do you know we drafted another sheppard….this guy from kansas is a star….Chip knew our secondary sucked and we as fans gotta appreciate at least the effort of chip to fix it
most people rated the Eagles draft a B…our biggest problem last year was QB and the defensive secondary …we have addressed that problem very well…in free agency and the draft…can the O-line hold up for one more year…I think so the only significant loss there is Herreman…we’ll be fine!
You mean “call a truce” , right?
While I agree with most posters, I wanted to see us address the OL during the draft, I think that once Clemmings went off the board we went into BPA mode. We got a number of quality players and certainly addressed our porous defensive backfield. I give it a solid B+.
I look forward to seeing the improvement on defense. Really like the combination of cb and s experience many guys come with.
A lot of new faces on this eagles team…
D MINUS…….
Damn A D minus Oh well it is a suspect draft
Most predictable post of all time… Pretendgmcliff doesn’t like a draft. The next one he likes will be his first
LOL…..the only one he will approve it if they hire him
Hac I do appreciate your take on the draft…….How the hell we know if these players are any good we don’t have the coaches tape….good and honest approach
The way these nerds play it is they all suck….all the guys the eagles don’t get are great and all the ones they get suck. It’s the most predictable saga in sports. So my guess is they watch an isolated Utah vs Colorado state game in October… Walk away with expert analysis of the 22 starters and who can play..ridiculous
and it’s still a D MINUS…..
Chip Kelly has no idea what he’s doing….
Pittsburgh Steelers have better scouts, and a clue about how to draft, and build, a SuperBowl Team…..The Eagles just don’t get it…
and neither do some of you who think this was a successful draft….
Just blindly follow with wishful thinking…….
We know cliff, we have the story, you were somehow an aspiring front office guy and was derailed. Barwin sucks, Johnson sucks, this draft sucks and every eagle ever drafted sucks… We get it…
Hac aspiring front office guy…..lol you are killing me
Hahahahahaha
D –
What a waste of time in following the Eagles draft. He must think he will trade a starting defensive player for an offensive lineman. Patriots had a masterful draft. I have serious doubts about Chips ability to evaluate talent. Old offensive line with a crippled QB?
amazingly I understand what Deez means, What did Chip Kelly say talking to the media today about Mathis?
Chip responding to Evan Mathis trade rumors from a reporter said that for two years Mathis has been given permission to seek a trade but no team has offered him anything…it was said in a way that could be interpreted as a dig at him….that is definitely the way Evan took it with the way he responded.
LOL
DEEZ NUTZ…..thats funny
I give Eagles a solid C….chip had a great first two picks….sucked terriblly in middle rounds….then finished strong with two excellent CB prospects The corner at pick 191 is a star and the other guy at 196 is solid at 6 foot 196…but he really messed up in the middle rounds
Rowe has to be a starter —
the eagles can’t keep only getting one starter per draft ( Jordan Matthews ) before they implode into a 4 & 12 season.
Agholor and Rowe have to be above average starters to rescue that horrible 2014 draft.
EOS then how did Andy Reid survive getting no to fringe starters in multiple drafts?
The revisionist history we are having with the draft is mind boggling.
riding Jim Johnson’s coat tails
I will give the draft a C. I like Agholor, not that high on Rowe from watching him at Utah, however, it was his first year playing CB instead of safety(hopefully he will be a baller in the Eagles system and prove me wrong). Do not know enough about Hicks, hopefully he stays healthy. I like Randall Evans, do not know about the other cb from Kansas. The kid from BC is a project.
Agholor is a guarantee starter, if he can’t beat out Cooper,Austin and Huff than Kelly should be fired as GM and Marynowitz replaced too.
Rowe has an even easier path to be a starter than Agholor. Extremely easy to beat out Wolfe, Watkins, Carroll, Boykin, and Thurmond.
It appears to me that Rowe will be tried at Safety since the Eagles selected 2 developmental CB’s in the 6th
The 7th Round Pick from BC will be a Camp Body but is a hustler had perhaps tried as a DT to battle Beau Allen for a back-up spot…
As I mentioned going into this Draft which had Depth, but not a whole lot of NFL Talent so the best moves to make in my opinion was to ditch the 5,6 & 7th Rounders and a couple of misplaced Players to get more picks in the Top #125
The way the Eagles/Kelly maneuvered their Trades and Board
They went from #20,#41, #84 to #191 & #193 to finishing at #237
Which is disappointing since they went in with 8 Selections and 6 Pickes of the Top #156 Selections…
Once after the 4th Round came and went the Best Prospects were few and far between
I see 2 Solid Players & Contributors in WR Agholor & DB Rowe
2 Contributors on Special Teams and added quality depth/competition in LB Hicks and CB Shepard
Last 2 Picks probably are Practice SquadCamp Bodies Material
I looked around other Teams Drafts and it seems like many of the Good Teams moved up inRounds 2,3 or 4 forfeiting later Round Picks due to the lack of overall NFL Talent in the later rounds…
Top Team like the Pats,Seahawks appeared to use early/mid round picks on the strength of this Draft , which was OL …
Tampa Bay,Ravens,Steelers, NY Jets, Redskins, Pats, Arizona, Panthers, Lions
Seahawks, Saints, Chiefs, Jags, Dolphins, Browns, Bengals & Giants appeared to have had strong Drafts
Eagles, Cowboys, Packers, Bears, Falcons, Broncos, Rams not so much
Listened to Dave Spadaro after the draft. He said the Eagles was going to initially play Rowe at cornerback and take it from there.
they will move him to safety and he should be the starter opposite jenkins….the starters will be jenkins….maxwell……rowe……and thurmond…..leaving boykin and caroll at back up corner spots…..and marogos , watkins…..and couplin at safety…….goodbye woolfe…..not the best starting secondary but good depth and solid….. and let me say this right now the jacorey sheppard pick will be major steal and he will be starting soon in this league. He only allowed a 38.6 qb rating the guy didn’t get beat deep ever in coverage
Man I know this has nothing to do with football but this damn song by walk on the moon called shut up and dance with me is catchy as hell…..I love it,,,,,and this aint some shit I usually listen to…..back to football
#TMT #TBE
After reading the profiles of all,the picks and UDFA it is very clear what this guys plan is. He wants to be the smartest guy in a room fully of smart guys.
There’s no doubt that Kelly wants to surround and build a Roster of Smart, Intelligent Players (similar to what Belicheck has done for Years)
Bill had tom…Tom had bill….
until chip finds his qb. We are going to be capped with how far this team can go..
Jeff Kolsky that’s the Capt. Obvious statement of the century….
This is a make or break year for Billy Davis….he has no excuses….you got some DB’s to work with and you already had a good front seven now even better with Kiko….and he has depth everywhere now…..No excuses for Billy he better put us in top ten in D this year
I don’t seemingly feel that as we are now constituted ,we are better than last year ..we have a huge hole at qb..at best an unknown health status…we have O lineman that last year did very little to distinguish themselves,and did nothing to increase the competition at that position(s). Our backend has been elevated if for no other reason ,subtraction,by,addittion…the running back position will be reliant on the,aforementioned O line..I sense that wide outs will have to all contribute to constitute an upgrade over last seasons.We need coach up the back end to compete in the even tougher NFC east wide out class.The draft yielded something we never had before …clarity…these are chips picks ,let’s assume he’s done his due diligences ,and it yields results exceeding all our expectations.I just feel he still needs learn to navigate through the boards,more deftly.
Guys need to stop bitching….I would rather have a questionable 3rd rounder who might pan out than a 1st rd bust like Marcus Smith and Danny Watkins any day.
This may turn out to be a very good draft with Chip guys, moving the team to the next level.
I’m glad we didn’t build on a losing core….Reid got fired because he went 4-12 with the same players guys hear are bitching about being cut, so that tels me the Eagles could be even more successful if Chip uses his players instead of leftovers who didn’t win a damn thing under Reid.
I like our new receiver better than Maclin…He’s more durable, run crisp routes and make YAC….even break tackles.
Our defensive secondary will be vastly improved, and we’l coach up our undrafted offensive linemen to NFL level talent (Jason Peters was an undrafted prospect) Would you rather have an undrafted Jason Peters or a 1st round Danny Watkins?
Late round Offensive linemen can be coached up to starters in the NFL.
THis draft was perfect and I give Chip an A.