Today is the first day that the Eagles could make a decision on San Bradford. They have the opportunity today to put the franchise tag on him, but Les Bowen of Philly.com is reporting that the Birds will pass up the opportunity.
“The Birds aren’t expected to use the 2016 tag, today or at all before the March 1 deadline, to ensure the retention of their most prominent free agent, quarterback Sam Bradford. They still might sign Bradford, but they don’t seem wed to him to the extent that they’re willing to dedicate $20 million or so of their 2016 salary cap to the notion.”
The Birds would have to pay Bradford in the neighborhood of $20 million to have his services in the 2016 season. Bradford had the best statistical year of his career in 2015 for the Birds, but he still failed to lead the team to the playoffs or a winning season. In fact, the former number one pick in the draft has never led a team to the playoffs or a winning season in his career, yet he’s already made over $75 million dollars in his career and somebody is going to pay him $20 million dollars this year.
I agree with the Eagles decision. You can’t give a guy like Bradford who has not accomplished nor proven anything on the NFL level, #20 million dollars a year. I know there aren’t any great options out there for the Birds, but you can’t marry yourself to Bradford with a multi-year deal.
The hate on Sam is so ridiculous and blown over proportion. I get its the qb position and the most critique and scrutinized position of them all considering they have the ball in there hands eveRy play.
But it was not all his fault. Judging on how some of u post on here, you would think he was to blame for everything and played like Nick Foles did. The wr play and running backs didn’t help our Qb out at all this season. You have seen Brady, brees, Rodgers and manning all struggle when the people around them struggle as well, and these guys are the best QB in the business.
Being there physically and actually playing football during camp and the reg season is only half the battle after tearing ur acl multiple times. Believe it or not, the mental part is probably the harder part then getting back in shape.
Planting ur back foot, running and keeping a calm, cool collective mind is hard to do with 300 lb gladiators trying to knock ur head off. I can’t even imagine what went thru his head when Suggs went straight for his knee that preseason opener for Sam.
As the season progressed, especially after the bye we all saw Sams confidence and chemistry grow with not only his team mates but himself as well. He was dropping back, Planting his feet and getting rid of the ball faster. This was all with a non existing running game, and leading the nfl in drops. During his time in STL he was always in the top 2 in drops as well in a divison with San fran and seattle.
This game is widely known as the ultimate TEAM sport. Philly had problems all over the place with not only playing, but also coaching.
If we do decide to keep Sam, he will be another season removed from his acls tears. He is 28 years old and can only get better from here. The more confidence He has in that knee and playing with the same players the better he will get. 19 tds and 14 ints isn’t completely terrible considering what we had at the wr play and running game. Do not forget about all the dropped tds and dropped catches that went for interceptions. There is not a qb In this game that could tear there acl twice, go to that 2015 philly team with those amount of drops and no running game and throw 35 tds or something along those lines.
Sam can and will improve. I believe the injury bug is behind him..anybody who doesn’t believe a qb cannot improve in just to bias against sam. He’s still young and could hit his prime in his early 30s.
If we go young, great. But if not and he comes back don’t bitch about it. Even tho I kno alot of u will. It would not be the WORST thing ever. If sam gets hurt, we are in the lottery next year possibly looking at a young QB in a deeper clase.
Holy Crap…I guess it’s appropriate that you’re commenting to a GCobb article, you both are horrible at spelling and syntax, ultimately making your post very hard to read.
Your love and excuse making for SB is what is blown out of proportion.
Sam Bradford threw 19tds last year. 19. Even if we forget the fact that at least 4 came in meaningless “garbage time” late in the 4th of blowout losses Q, or that another 2 were in the completely meaningless final game against the Giants when their 30th ranked D wasn’t even trying. forgetting that theother measly 13 tds came against a litany of terrible defenses…..
Forgetting all that and taking that 19 TDs at face value. 19.
QBs over the past 3 seasons that have reached or surpassed 19 tds in a single season:
2015
Jameis (rookie) Winston 21
Alex (can’t throw) Smith 20, 23
Jay (useless) Cutler 21
Tyrod (3 year nobody) Taylor
Brian (on my 6th team) Hoyer
Marcus (rookie) Mariotta 19
Nick (Koolidiot losing it) Foles 27
Ryan (regret the contract) Tannehill 24, 24
Andy (everyone in Cinci hates me) Dalton 25
Derek (rookie) Carr 21
Colin (about to be cut) Krapernick 20, 21
Mike (who???) Glennon 19
Don;t give me any shit that Sam Bradford is the “Best option” of anything.
You know what Sam Bradford has in common with all these guys??
None of them are winning the SB anytime soon.
3 of them have a chance….and they’re all rookie/young guys (Carr, Mariotta, Winston)
19tds is a never win the SB JOKE in 2015.
Your 19 tds and “garbage time” argument can be easily countered with how many dropped touchdowns and called back tds sam bradford had. Because trust me, take away the “garbage time tds” and add on all the ones that were dropped or called back or the wr didn’t get his feet down and he throws for over 20 touchdowns. You forget he also missed 2 games and could have threw for even more with a 4000 yard season with 64% complete passes. Both of those stats are franchise caliber numbers.
Say whatever u want, coming off 2 torn acls and being babied all throughout training camp because of those tears, those stats aren’t even that bad with all things being considered. The only wr threat sam had was Jordan because Nelly was a rookie and we do not kno what we have with him yet
Vinnie, you are kind of arguing against yourself with the latest post (5:51). Teams are so desperate for QBs they pay mediocrity. Skins will probably franchise him. I’m not arguing whether sam is better or worse than any of the QBs on your list of scrubs. I don’t agree with it but think the eagles will go with him… We are in qb hell and that’s what teams in qb hell do…they pay for a mediocre qb and hope he can somehow manage the game and not lose it. Sam is our cutler, Tannehill etc… Yay us!
Eagles spent a two on Kobb, a qb and two on Bradford, a 4 on Barkley, FA money on butt fumble… Face it son that’s qb hell…
Add a third for Foles. We are in hell. The other boys want to get behind sam the way fans get behind cutler etc, … “Hey he has talent let’s get behind him and make a run” ….
“We are in hell. The other boys want to get behind sam the way fans get behind cutler etc, … “Hey he has talent let’s get behind him and make a run” ….”
Vinniedafoolass, mperverthenski, and others will plunge us deeper in that QB hell too. The options that they offer for QB are absolutely ridiculous with the equally stupid arguments about money. Chase Daniels, Mark Sanchez, a shot in the dark for one of these unproven QB’s who may take 2-3 years to develop if they develop at all….or the worst possible scenario (the one that Vinny wants) getting Nick Foles back.
So we will save money but the team will suck ass terribly.
The fools want to tell us that Bradford is no better than Sanchez, that the 6ft Chase Daniels can come in and do the same, or just throw anyone back there and we will do the same as we would with Bradford.
But the Eagles New Head Coach does not believe that…he says we can make a deep playoff run…All we have heard from the whispers of the lockerroom is that Bradford’s teammates respect how he has come back from 2 ACL’s and got better as the year progressed and how they want him back…
You can bet your ass that none of them are clamoring for Sanchez, Daniels, or Fooles…or spending the 13th pick in the draft on a guy like Lynch and ‘hoping’ he can step in…
You can think that Bradford is bad…fine…but it is objectively proven that Sanchez and Foles stink ass and are worse than Bradford. Yet in the interest of saving money ..and there are those who want the Eagles to bring back a guy that was benched twice and was the absolute worst QB in the NFL last year….and that’s the same as having Bradford…
Bullshit
The major thrust behind the arguments for Sam Bradford is NOT that he is Tom Brady, Aaron Russell, Cam Newton, or Russell Wilson. No one has claimed that Sam Bradford is a great QB…the simple argument is that the guy showed enough to his teammates and to objective fans to tell us that he is simply the best option available and that you have a better chance.
Is it a stone cold lock…NO…its about looking at and assessing options and getting the best you can get…and that is Sam Bradford.
The new Coach believes that…his teammates believe that and his play supports that belief. We all see that we may finally have a good defense with some sound Coaching, if we can get out of Bradford what we got in the second half of the season and improve the running game and defense….the Eagles can win the weak NFC East!
Its that simple
At best sam pushes us to the “cutler side of hell” … Probably not the “Hoyer side of hell” but hell none the less.. If you’d like to live in that part of hell I say go for it.., we have spent a 2 on Kobb, 3 on Foles , 4 on Barkley, a 2 and a player on Bradford, a FA signing in Vick and sanchez and we can’t even sniff the playoffs… Hell=hell
There is just no arguing the facts.
The Philadelphia eagles rushed for over 100 yards 8 times last season with Sam Under center. How mant did he come out with a W? Seven. Sam went 7-1 when we rushed for over a 100 yards. The only game we lost was to Carolina. And guess what?!?!? We had 2-3 dropped touchdowns that game giving us 11 total for the game.
Take a step backm and look at the tape before you all start yelling “Get rid of SAM”. Most of you have weak arguments and just want to see somone get the axe like most pgilly fans.
Ct sam is 25-37 as a starter…. Does he bare any responsibility? Ever? Is it always someone else? Doesn’t an ultra talented overall number one lead a team once in awhile? Ever?
Some other qbs AROUND the Nfl and their records with 100 yard rushers,
Alex Smith 10-3
Russell 10-5
Bradford 7-1
Ryan Fits 7-1
Kkirk Cousins 6-1
Winston 5-7
Matt Ryan 5-4
Brees 4-2
Bortles 3-2
Tannehill 3-3
Eli 2-2
Out of 64 games in Sams career he has only lost 13 games with a rusher over 100 yards, Thats not a coincidence. Im sure most of those 13 games came down to drops as well.
You can build around Sam Bradford and win football games. If you can win with Dilfer, a old Manning, Eli Manning, and Flacco you can do it with Sam.
Everyone take a seat, and hope we resign the man.
Again, if we go young I will aceept the direction of the team.
That’s the most ridiculous stat in all sports…. Of course QB have winning records when someone rushes for 100 yards…. Teams run the ball when they are winning, not when they are losing….
A more telling stat would be winning percentage without a hundred yard rusher…
Keep in mind, Alex Smith and Wilson both had elite defenses backing them up as well and did not come off two torn acls and going into a totally different system with different personell.
lol the good old tried and true Trent dilfer argument. U know that that argument goes against bradfraud right? Why pay Sam dilfer when you can pay chase dilfer for pennies on the dollar and get similar results right?
But by the way you know who could’ve won the super bowl if they were the qb of that Ravens team or the qb of this years Broncos teams? I do pee wee fuckin Herman
Paying a fraud of a qb outrageous money whether it’s 10 15 or 20 mill takes away from your o line and d…
I wonder which is higher the most wins in a season Sam has ever got or the amount of times he can curl a 10 lb dumbbell or amount of times he can bench 50 pounds
LOL brilliant.
7 across the board for the twig.
I did not just list Dilfer. I happened to list a few others. And teams do not run the ball just when they are winning. If you start the game out getting hit in the back field every play then chances are your not going to win with a new qb coming off two torn acls when you become one dimensional, Especially when that qb only has ONE wr in matthews and is in a new system.
For example. the Atlanta game. Sam was the only bright spot we had that game in the second half.
I did not just list Dilfer. I happened to list a few others. And teams do not run the ball just when they are winning. If you start the game out getting hit in the back field every play then chances are your not going to win with a new qb coming off two torn acls when you become one dimensional, Especially when that qb only has ONE wr in matthews and is in a new system.
For example. the Atlanta game. Sam was the only bright spot we had that game in the second half.
Hilarious. So you guys are saying that Sam should only be judged when the running game and oline sucks?? LMAO. Jesus. This is a team sport!! The ultimate team sport at that.
Lets judge sam bradford only when he doesnt have a running game, and the WR are dropping the ball. LOL
You only want to judge him when he has a running game… What’s the difference?
No – what I’m saying is, winning begets rushing… rushing does not beget winning.
All teams pass to get the lead, then run to hold the lead.
Putting a stat up that shows that teams run the ball when they win is the same as putting a stat up that shows that teams win when they score more points… No Shit – it has nothing to do with Sam Bradford, it’s has to do with winning
curse Mhenski – I can’t get “It’s so cold in the D” out of my head
The difference is when you are playing as a team, he looks good. When his rbs are getting hit the backfield every play, dropped balls for ints and dropped touchdowns he struggled.
Bottom line is, Sam PLayed amazing in the carolina game. If the WR catch the balls, or atleast half of them we win. go re watch the tape.
the guy was away from football for TWO years. Name me another qb who missed 2 years and came back and started right away coming off two acls?..
I believe I’m in agreement with CT finally…give sam the 86 bears defense, the Walsh led 49er offense and he’d go at least 9-7. Stud!
And Irish you arguement is flawed. If winnings begets rushing then why did Eli, Ryan, Blake, WInston all have average to ass records when they rushed for over a 100? A team can rush for 100 yards all day if a qb comes out and turns the ball over, and does not make plays, theyu are going to lose every time.
Not all qbs have great records if they rush for over 100 yards games this season. Just go on and look above. The Qb still has to make plays through the air, which is what Sam did in the carolina game, but the WR dropped 2-3 touch downs passes.
Even the redskins game, the drops killed us ultimately. As a matter of fact both skins games were lost cause of drops, not Bradford. Go watch the tape. Demarcos fumble was just the icing on the cake.
In 2015 teams were 185-91 when they rusher for over 100 yards in a game. That’s because winning begets rushing. Teams run the ball more when they are winning… Simple fact.
I’m saying Bradford shouldn’t be in the league
Howie’s neck is on the line – He has to win the division and Sam Bradford has never had a winning record.
It’s soooooo cooooooold in the d
Howie job on the line if he resigns Sam it’s not if he don’t imo
So build the oline through the draft and maybe 1 in FA to help the running game improve in 2016 and we should be damn good with our defense. Sam will be fine.
Once again…the lame hate-Sam crew are fresh out of legitimate answers.
We can look past all of the dumb ass statements and if Bradford hits the free agent market someone will clearly pick him up.
What’s the plan if not Bradford?
Sanchez, Chase Daniels?
Get them on the cheap and hope you can win with them
Dumb
Draft a Rookie more than likely Lynch with your 1st round pick.
Stupid!
What happens if he stinks…which is a very high possibility? You have wasted yet another first rounder
The hate-Sam crew do not have a single credible answer. The options they put forth are ridiculous.
The Eagles if they are smart will listen to the Players, listen to the new Head Coach and sign Bradford!
It’s hilarious Koolbreeze I kno my man. Not one single arguement that has strong background to it. Everything bradford haters say can be countered with something that make perfect sense.
You would think this guy was Kevin Kolb or some shit.
Counter this… Can he win without a run game? Can he not be a turnover machine? Can he make his team better?,, has he done these things?
“Can he not be a turnover machine?”
Sure. He never truely was the season at all. Out of his 14 Interceptions over half went off the hands off a wr or tight end. He cut that total down from 10 in the first half to 4 in the second half. Out of those 4, two came off the hands of the intended wr.
“Can he win without a running game. ” sure. If the wr can Hold onto the ball this season and cut the drops in half. If that happens we won’t need a 100 yard rusher every week to help our Qb a little.
Can he make the team better??
Sure. We looked a helluva lot better with him then sanchez.
You conveniently did not answer the last question…has he done this and the answer is no…dude never even got into a wild card game
you can say that about a lot of quarterback’s ints. That argument goes both ways
CT I know these guys real well…
If you noticed, none of them in all of their gripes about Bradford have laid out a sensible plan. None of them want to go on record, with specific names that they identify should be the guy.
They are not telling us…lets get rid of Bradford, draft Lynch and get Nick Foles or Sanchez to start. Lets cut Peters and get Johnson used to left tackle this season, get rid of any vets, draft new young players and commit to a specific course of action with Lynch or Wentz, or any of the QB’s in this year’s draft.
They want to be able to shift, duck, slip, and slide so if it all blows up…you cant pin nothing on them…
No plan of action, no clear course…the mantra now is get rid of Bradford….and get anyone…
Ridiculous!
Hot air I said they will sign Bradford …he is the plan, I just point out they are desperate, he is our cutler, our Tanehill, our Hoyer etc… It’s a sucky plan but it’s the state of the hfl
“CT I know these guys real well…”
I hope you these guys better than your knowledge of 3rd grade addition
So are we all agreed?
Give Sam Bradford an Oline made up of 5 HOFers, 2 pro-bowl Wrs, Tony Gonzalez and Mark Bavaro at TE, AND the 85 Bears D….he can “lead” the Eagles to the playoffs.
I’m excited.
(BTW – I still think he throws a game crushing pick in a close game and then walks off the field with his chin on his chest – but that’s just me)
Shit….I forgot a 1800 yrd/15td RB and a complementary 3rd down back to add 65 receptions for another 800 yrds and 6 tds.
That’s all he needs!!
Hac he has done these things. He has never been a turnover int throwing machine. Never. During his time with the rams he got 1 game within the playoffs, and when he got hurt 2 times the rams never even got close to making the post season again.
He can make his team better, IF he has a team. That rams team was a joke on all sides of the ball and was even more of joke on coaching. Having 3 head coaches and 4 different offensive coordinators is not going to help either especially when ur in a divison with seattle Arizona and San fran who was dominate at the time. Seattle and Arizona were both up-and-coming young talented teams. All bradford had was even more drops in STL and a even more pathetic oline.
Now he is on a team that has young talent. He has to learn a new system and have a new oc and hc yet again, but ar least he will be On a team with talent and he will be with players he has played with before.
A year removed from his injuries and still young. Sign the man and build around him then next 5 years and you can make man run, especially in this divison. The team is young at the wr position and can and will only get better with their qb. U don’t get better by switching ur qb every season. We have our Qb now let’s fix the other holes on the roster. We don’t need to create more.
Use that 13th pick on a elite oline or dline
Has he ever won?
Has he ever had a decent chance to win with all the circumstances that had occurred above?
John elway didn’t win a superbowl till like 37?
He never will win if he keeps changing teams every year and new personnell and coaching every single year.
Most unlucky number 1 pick of all time.
Coaches don’t get fired and systems don’t get changed when you have a good qb. Unlucky? Sam is accountable for nothing.
And you mentioned him in the same breath as elway…yeah he didn’t win it all until he was 37. However he win a whole lot, 2 11 win seasons and one 12 in his first five years and a SB loss. Lots of playoff wins. Stupid comparison.
You can’t just over pay a guy because he may or may not be the best option. Playing decent for 1/2 a season doesn’t make you a $100,000,000 QB. He has not proven anything good or bad. I would sign him for the right price, but he in no way deserves to be overpaid. If you can get him for three years at 12-16 mil a year, go for it. That’s what average QB’s get and that what he is so far. That would give him three years to prove something. If some other team wants to over pay him, they can have him. It’s not the end of the world weather he stays or goes, he ‘s not the only piece to this puzzle. The extra money could be spent on other positions of need, and we all know there are plenty of holes to fill.
This team MUST resign Bradford to a multi year deal. (And it has very little to do with Bradford)
If this ORGANIZATION wants any credibility within the league and within the locker room they must must must have a CLEAR VISION FOR THE TEAM.
Want to keep Malcom Jenkins, and other core veterans engaged in this upcoming season.
(Gotta Pay Bradford)
If you tell a bunch of veteran guys that know they have at best 3 to 5 years at their primes to accept some Johnny Collegeball not of the (Luck, Manning, seen as studs variety) as the VISION you have a problem.
Oh we will just draft SOME GUY and then if he sucks we will do it again next year then the next then change coaches then move to England then …….,
I agree we should be looking to draft QB of future. (Think every other year you should get a young prospect) But we need the QB of the Present and near future for organizational stability.
Let a rookie out play a guy like Bradford and transition to power vs getting the RG3 coronation route.
The Carolina Panthers and countless other teams have not taken this approach. If Bradford was an established winning QB I would agree, and by winning I mean at least 9-7 (low standard) and a wild card playoff winning record. Fact is team leaders came out in support of Nick Foles (Kelce, Herremans, Jordan Matthews)being the franchise QB etc, he was tossed and rightfully so, so it really means little in the big picture. Seven Win Sam “the sham” Bradfraud came out in support of keeping Shurmer, where is Schurmer? My point is that this is a business, regardless of what the players think or want does not translate into it materializing into the organizations plan.
If Sham wants 18-20 million, he can get it from another sucker as he has done zilch to be worth that money. If the Eagles want to re-sign he is a 12-14 million dollar a year QB, and I am being generous about that when I factor in his injury history, which says he will miss games during the season. I posted my plan on January 27 in a response to daggolden that I would bring in RG 3 at a reduced price and draft a rookie QB. I can get the same production that Sham has historically given from RG3 at a lower price. Bye Seven Win Sam Bradfraud! Signing Sam lends credence to the fact that they are fine with middling and being mediocre, that’s about the extent of it, his history says so.
This arguement:
“Want to keep Malcom Jenkins, and other core veterans engaged in this upcoming season. (Gotta Pay Bradford)”
Is complete and absolute bullshit.
Did Troy Polomalu and jerome Bettis just stop playing when the Pittsburgh steelers drafted division II Ben Roethlessburger at 11 and roll him out there.
Did Ray Lewis and Ed Reed just stop playing when the Baltimore Ravens draft Joe Flacco at 18???
The “Eagles vets will stop playing” if they don’t sign Sam Waterford is a lazy, stupid, no basis in history arguement.
If the guy they bring in can play then you are correct. If they guy they bring in is not obviously as good as Bradford then the questioning will begin. They transitioned to Bradford because it was noticeable he had more talent than Foles.
Going the other way. Missing on a guy will spell disaster.
Riley Cooper’s production sank like an anchor with Bradford at QB and even worse the WR position with the same exact plays that made DJax and Maclin 10 million dollar receivers produced 23 catches for Agholor. Sam Bradford won’t throw the football to the outside receivers. His body is so frail and he is so scared of absorbing hits, he wants to unload that football to the safest open receiver which happens to be the closest. He played scardy cat football every first half this year. Then actually tried in the 3rd quarter to play full field football praying for the 4th quarter prevent defense to arrive. He is a finesse chump.
SPOT ON E0S
NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reports new Eagles coach Doug Pederson believes impending free agent QB Chase Daniel is “more than a backup.”
The links between Daniel and the Eagles have been flying ever since Pederson left Kansas City. A career backup who has split six seasons between the Saints and Chiefs, Daniel has played well both in the preseason and spot starts under Andy Reid. With Pederson certain to run a similar system in Philadelphia, bringing in Daniel as a cheaper alternative to Sam Bradford makes a lot of sense. It would not be surprising if Daniel opens 2016 as the starter in Philadelphia.
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Feb 18 – 9:25 AM
My Final thoughts on the most juvenile debate of all time;
I tried to stay out of the discussion all together because it never goes anywhere but I dove in anyway. Clearly there is a fork in the road for the Eagles and the fans are split on what to do.
Some want a backup in, they ALWAYS want the backup. These people loved Garcia and Kolb and Foles- when the starters struggled, they quickly called for the backup to be in. If the birds choose to move on from Bradford and get Chase and draft whatever falls to them, fine… but I think they back themselves further into an already bad corner. If i’m any of the teams in front of the Eagles on draft night I’m getting rich watching teams trade for my spot. If they role with Chase, they are CLEARLY needing a QB with the top pic. I don’t think it’s a good move.
I dont get the hate for a player on the Eagles roster… i never understood that. Some of you place your own agenda above the team.
its not juvenile at all stevo, everyone wants the same thing except kook…
my agenda of getting rid of bradfraud is not above the team, its for the team. getting rid of sam is the best course of action in moving in the right direction towards winning a super bowl. i dont care about winning the division anymore or sneaking in the playoffs. i want a serious run at a 5+ year run of legit contending for a title. i want a team like that mcnabb+TO team… anything less is crap to me
people see different paths i get it, i cant convince your eyes or brain to see and think what my eyes and brain does and vice versa..
if you think sams the way all good bro, bring your argument to the table and lets debate. come july what you or i think wont mean much anyway, it will be what our front office says it will
Mhenski…perfectly stated and well said.
Fine by me- Ill have an intelligent conversation with you and ill ignore simpleton because he has shown ignorance on the matter for 7 years or so.
If we move on from Bradford it shows me that we are in full blown rebuild. We would then be putting all our eggs in the first pick. I have seen this mentality fail again and again. It doesnt work. I’ve called it the Christian Ponder route. Reminder…. we dont have a top pick. SO we roll out Chase and we say to rook…. youve got a couple of months. Its failure from the start.
For draft night- any team that sees us bring in stop gap guy knows what we are doing. So if you weant a qb… be ready to pay. To get the 3rd qb taken we would have to move up to get him. So…. now we are really going all in on draft guy. or… they have a 3rd rounder that they want and we take him in rd 1. Doe we like this? I dont.
The other option….. TANK. And frankly I see too much talent on this team for that. This D will be better guys. they cant Tank even of they wanted to.
Ok…. lets start there. All this for what…. 7 million? So is that what we want?
“For draft night- any team that sees us bring in stop gap guy knows what we are doing. So if you weant a qb… be ready to pay. To get the 3rd qb taken we would have to move up to get him.”
Garbage.
Which is this proverbial team that is going to hold the eagles over the barrel and whom the Birds will have to “pay” What team out there is going to ransom off their pic….”If you do’t trade up, we’re going to take him!!!”
Titans at 1. No Mariotta
Chargers at 3 – no just extended Rivers (mistake)
Jags at 5 no Bortles
Ravens at 6 no Flacco
49ers at 7 no. Roseman isn’t answering the phone if they call
Dolphins at 8 no Tied to Tannehills shitty contract
Bucs at 9 no Winston
Giants (in the 10 spot where Eagles should have been) no Eli
Bears at 11!!!!! Well we may have a winner here! The Bears actually might be able to”force” the Eagles at this point because Roseman might actually believe they’re interested in a QB even though they are trapped by Cutler’s shitty contract. How much to move up 2 spots at this point anyway??
Saints at 12. No. Again tied to Brees.
There is no one, save the Bears who can “bluff” the Eagles or “force” them to “pay.
But did you notice something on that list….
Chargers, Dolphins, Bears, and even Giants and Saints (soon)
What do they all have in common??
They’re all “trapped” shelling out huge cap space to shitty or declining QBs. Qbs who will never win….and so the team is hancuffed clogging up all that space on a guy who won;t win.
Exactly what some of you clowns want for the birds with Sham Waterford.
“its for the team. getting rid of sam is the best course of action in moving in the right direction towards winning a super bowl. i dont care about winning the division anymore or sneaking in the playoffs. i want a serious run at a 5+ year run of legit contending for a title. i want a team like that mcnabb+TO team… anything less is crap to me”
The problem with your outlook, mhenski is that you have absolutely nothing to bring to the table to get us there…you dont build a Super Bowl team off of wishes and hopes….this is the NFL…not fantasy football where you can just pick players.
Tanking is impossible and out of the question for Lurie. Your asking him to take a huge risk to attempt such a foolish strategy. In the NFL, you cant think that you can suck with the purpose of getting good. You draft who you think is a franchise QB and he blows his knee out and your plans are down the tube. You come to a draft and you have the 1st pick of the draft and you have a choice of Tim Couch or Donovan McNabb. You pick Couch who at the time was considered a good and solid pick to build the new Browns around…it didn’t work.
The bottom line is that too many things can go wrong in trying to tank in the NFL that can destroy your franchise…and the Eagles fanbase will not sit around and accept multiple losing seasons with the ridiculous notion that you can build a team into a Super Bowl contender by tanking seasons
The Eagles can float out rumors, feign interest in Chase Daniels, pretend that they want Nick Foles….do as much as they to convince the Bradford team that they have options…they dont…either sign Bradford to a deal or tag him…that’s the only legitimate option!!
Tagging Bradford is even the best option if you want to get rid of him…tag and trade him would be better than simply letting him walk…but the Eagles should know and understand that their best chance is with Sam Bradford!
Pure desperation and utter foolishness
The Sam haters simply do not make sense in any way…no matter how you look at it…
You can say Bradford is a complete bum and a loser…Fine…I dont buy that crap at all. Sam Bradford showed me he can play…I dont care who you are when you dont play for 2 years you are rusty. Sam Bradford did exactly what I predicted…he got better as the year went on..and the Eagles didn’t lose games because Sam Bradford stunk.
Football is a TEAM game and if your receivers stink, your offensive line sucks, your receivers suck and drop passes, you dont have a consistent running game, your coaching is poor, and your defense sucks…you will lose…I dont care if your name is Bradford or Brady…
But with that said…lets imagine that Bradford gets hurt again, or he stinks…and the Eagles lose…
If Bradford stinks as bad as you all are claiming…we will establish that next year, we will have a high draft pick but what the new Coaching staff will have is credibility…because in the Players mind they kept the best available Qb to give them a chance to win.
If you bring in a someone that the Players perceive is a back up, or a saving money option…you convey that you are not serious about winning…you undermine the Coach-who has already said that Bradford can take you deep in the playoffs-and you then create a toxic situation that can be likened to the Cleveland Browns, Oakland Raiders of the league…
The Eagles need to make the smart play….slap the tag on Bradford even if he refuses to sign a team friendly deal…you are playing the higher percentages instead of going with Casey Daniels, Sanchez, or Christian Ponder..ooops…I mean one of the rookies in this draft.
Draft a QB in the 4th round…see if you can develop him…gain credibility for the new Coach…build your defense…your offensive line if Bradford’s no good you are in the same situation with more stability
If he is good…which I believe he will be….then you are in a better situation to win!
Kool I agree, sam is the best terrible, non winning qb out there. I like him better than ponder, Tanehill, Hoyer, Manziel (your guy)’ Boyd, g smith etc.., he is the best of the bunch
haveablunt, I’m glad you agree…he’s better than your guys too…the one that actually played for the Eagles…your main man Nick Foles!
Chip Kelly’s greatest contribution to the Eagles was getting rid of him right before he completely fell apart.
Think of the condition we would have been in if we signed your guy to a long term, guaranteed contract like your crew wanted too…
As to the draft..who knows which of the current Qb’s in this draft may have an alcohol problem, which one of them cant adjust to the NFL game, which one of them have their confidence destroyed by NFL defenses…you cant predict…in projecting this draft class I’d say that Goff, Lynch, and Wentz have more in common with Ponder, Boyd, Geno Smith than they have with my guys Mariotta, Winston, or Bridgewater (another guy I really liked out of college).
I’m not sure why you go on here day after day pounding your chest saying we have to keep the ‘best (which can be argued) terrible QB there is”– why would anyone drone on and on about keeping a ‘good’ terrible QB??? I am resigned to it…i’m not cheering about it– yay we have the best shitty QB!!! yay us???? no–we are in QB hell and have been since 5… thats been a long ass time and its not ending because of Sam– best thing for us is sign sam to a friendly deal- he tears his ACL in first preseason game–we go with this junk we signed yesterday, lose and draft a qb…
“Sam Bradford showed me he can play…”
Apparently so did MV7wins, Taj Boyd, Geno Smith, Johnny Manziel, and Mark Sanchez
“Football is a TEAM game and if your receivers stink, your offensive line sucks, your receivers suck and drop passes, you dont have a consistent running game, your coaching is poor, and your defense sucks…you will lose…I dont care if your name is Bradford or Brady…”
Brady’s WRs dropped more balls, his oline is a complete set of turnstiles, they have absolutely no running game, and had just about more offensive injuries that any other team in football.
“If you bring in a someone that the Players perceive is a back up, or a saving money option…you convey that you are not serious about winning…you undermine the Coach-”
Like when the Steelers started 11th pick Roethlisburger (from Miami of Ohio???) and guys like Polomalu quit because the coach had been “undermined”
Or when the Ravens started 18th pick (out of Delaware???) Flacco and guys like Lewis and Reed quit because the coach had been “undermined”
This “coach being undermined and players will quit” is the laziest, weakest argument the “I love Sham Waterford” brigade rolls out.
“gain credibility for the new Coach…”
There’s that stupid line again. You know what won’t “gain credibility” for the new coach….trotting Sammy 7s out there next year, and when the team is 3-5 and the stadium is “BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!”
The quickest way to end Pederson’s tenure as Eagles coach is to trot out the same loser next year and expect a different result.
And that’s the rub isn’t it?
Whats that line about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results??
Sam “part of the process” Bradford
7wins
1win
7wins
3 wins
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7wins
Next year….next year will be different…”The next gig…the next gig’s gonna be huge……You gotta trust me….”
smh…somethings never change…
Vinniedafool is still an ass!
“Brady’s WRs dropped more balls, his oline is a complete set of turnstiles, they have absolutely no running game, and had just about more offensive injuries that any other team in football.”
Bullshit:
The Eagles receivers lead the league in drops…New England had some injury problems at wide out that led to some rough games but on the whole New England receivers are significantly better. Only an idiot would say that the Eagles outside receivers in Josh Huff and Riley Cooper were better than the Patriotsstarting receivers of Julian Edelman and Danny Amendola–add to that New England had the best tight end in football in Gronkowski
New England’s defense was much better than the Eagles, and until the injury bug hit New England later in the year…their running game was better….
In key games New England’s receivers made catches, converted third downs…Bradford’s receivers dropped plenty of key third down passes
Fool ass
Better Receivers, better defensive…better coach ….and of course a better Quarterback…Brady is the best Quarterback in the NFL…
Vinniedafool…of course we know that you dont know much about Football and Quarterback play…
You mention Roethlisburger and Flacco…which one of these QB’s that are available to the Eagles will be on their level, Vinniedafool…please inform us?
Of course, we all know that for years you insisted that Nick Foles was leading us to a Super Bowl and the great regret that we would have in losing him…Cam Newton was a bum…who had poor footwork, Foles was better than him…according to you Russell Wilson was merely a game manager …not better than Foles..
We also cant forget your esteem for Kevin Kolb….another great Eagle QB with great ‘footwork’…LMAO…
Its funny…the QB’s that I projected as late round picks, possibilities to run the Chip Kelly’s offense is your focus…while the QB’s that we have seen in camp, play in NFL games over a period of time are the ones that you have been dead wrong…
The bottom line is that the Coach, the Players on the Eagles all disagree with you about Sam Bradford…and you are a coward Vinniedafool…the bash Bradford movement simply allows you to hide…like a sniveling brat…
Make the call who should be the Eagles QB and why…who should they draft…
take a stand for once…
Guess what he’s is much better than your favorite All-Time Quarterback who you predicted was going to lead us to a Super Bowl…Nick Foles
He’s also got better footwork than your other all time great Kevin Kolb.
See the guys that I have admittedly missed on were guys that mostly suggested we get in later rounds, guys that I hadn’t seen play in the NFL who had stylistic matches with Chip Kelly’s system…the guys you are always wrong about are guys we seen over a period of time in the NFL…
You were the guy that said Cam Newton cant play…LMAO…wrong
You were the guy who said Russell Wilson was nothing but a game manager…dead wrong
You were the guy clamoring for Kevin Kolb to be the franchise QB because of his brilliant footwork…LMAO
You were the guy who insisted that we sign Nick Foles to a long term guaranteed contract so he can lead us to the Super Bowl and that we would be so sorry that we got rid of him
Now you foolishly
kookbreeze bringin them hot takes after getting off that grave shift…
The Eagles WRs are credited with 42 drops. NE wrs 44.
I know Mehenski continually brings up your 3rd grade math skills, but even a 3rtd grader knows 44 is more than 42.
And by the way….when did this whole, “make shit up” business begin with you anyway? Are you feeling so upset about the whole realization that new Regimes = new Quarterbacks and that Bradford is thankfully toast that you have begun seeing things?
I mean its now comical how many flat out lies you spout.
And these inane questions:
“You mention Roethlisburger and Flacco…which one of these QB’s that are available to the Eagles will be on their level, Vinniedafool…please inform us?”
When everyone knows the answer is “who the fuck knows?” No one knew if either of them would be good either. Yet two teams with excellent front offices and championship legacies took the “who the fuck knows” chance because they knew the Tommy Maddox, Cordell Stewart, Air McNair options weren’t going to cut it.
And they made that call even though those guys each had led the teams to WINNING SEASONS and PLAYOFF WINS. Something your hero Sam Waterford hasn’t ever sniffed.
Those proud franchises chose the “who the fuck knows – but we have to try” route even though they had playoff winning QBs on their rosters.
BTW – The Denver D doesn’t think Newton can play Qb either and have stated continually the plan was to “let him throw” because they know he can’t.
He does know how to quit on the field though….something most front-running “look at me” guys excel at.
4:00 mins to go in the SB and the entire world was introduced to your true “MVP”
“The Eagles WRs are credited with 42 drops. NE wrs 44.”
Dumb ass!! The Eagles led the league in dropped passes…it wasn’t only the Wide Receivers fool…it was the running backs and tight ends too that dropped passes!!
I know that Stevo makes repeated references to your lack of football acumen…but surely you cant be that damm stupid…
Well..strike that you are that stupid which is why I call you ‘Vinniedafoolass’
“You mention Roethlisburger and Flacco…which one of these QB’s that are available to the Eagles will be on their level, Vinniedafool…please inform us?”
When everyone knows the answer is “who the fuck knows?” No one knew if either of them would be good either. Yet two teams with excellent front offices and championship legacies took the “who the fuck knows” chance because they knew the Tommy Maddox, Cordell Stewart, Air McNair options weren’t going to cut it.”
Well that about describes you Vinniedafoolass…you are a “who the fuck knows” kinda of guy. This is the most accurate self-description of your contentions that you have ever provided…maybe that should be your new name…”whothefuckknows’…LMAO..
What a wimp, lame ass cop out!
‘who the fuck knows’ is how your lame ass hides waits to see what happens and then after the fact jumps up and says…”see I told you”.
If you are saying the Eagles are right to move on from Bradford, you and others then are obliged to step up and make a call. Take a position…lay it out…if you watch football and know the game you make a call…you say:
“Get rid of Bradford and pick up Chase Daniels and draft Lynch or draft Wentz..”
But the wimps and lames tell us…”who the fuck knows” I just dont like Bradford…so if it goes bad and blows up you dont have to take any heat.
You should take your ‘who the fuck knows’ position and fall back Vinniedafool…if you cant man up and take the heat…fall back you have no credibility!
One of the main reasons why the Eagles should keep Bradford because they dont have a strong front office. Obviously, when you have strong stable front offices like Pittsburgh and Baltimore you make sound decisions. They looked at the draft and projected that Roethlisburger and Flacco were Super Bowl caliber Quarterbacks. Your ‘who the fuck knows’ position basically says…well just get anyone…
Dumb ass…and extremely lame!
Fall back Vinnie…you and your lame ass sidekicks and Bradford bashers…come back when you grow a pair!!
35 Td’s- 10 Int’s- 3,837yrds “horrible running qb”
34 Td’s- 8 int’s – 4,024yrds “Game manager” “will never win a SB”
19 Td’s- 14Int’s- 3,725yrds “Bum”
7 Td’s- 10Int’s- 2,052- “franchise QB”
All the mouth running stops right here. Here’s is your QB evaluation legacy. We have all been here to watch this unfold. Id rather my 7 year old daughter pick the next eagles starting qb. You sir are not only a simpleton, you are a fool.
are you kool?
19dts – 14ints in todays nfl is below bum level…
vinnie never called foles a franchise qb ever not once. i just dont get why people would come on here and make up lies about someone, can you explain that?
also i see you quoting somebody? can you tell me who? i think you are implying vinnie. if you are can you copy and paste where he called russ wilson a “Game manager” and said that he “will never win a SB”?
cmon man. u wanna bring the hot takes bring em but dont make em up, thats kookbreezes job
Exactly. Now we have 2 guys making shit up.
Foles was a better option than Vick (he was). Foles went 10-2 throwing 27 tds in 12 games (or whatever) and left the field in a playoff game with the lead. (he did) I said this was exciting and promising (it was) I said the Eagles should extend him with a “Kaepernick type deal” which, as you can see about to happen, is something the Eagles could have gotten out from under without much difficulty.
Would the Eagles be in a better or worse place right now had they kept Foles, won 7 games like Waterford AND had a second round pick heading into this draft?? Of course they would have.
I never said Wilson wouldn’t win a SB. I actually sid I liked how he was concentrating on becoming a QB and working on eliminating the running from his game which would help him improve.
I will change “horrible running QB” to “quitting running Qb” for Newton….is that better???
19 tds and 14 ints is “BUM”
koolbreeze is afraid the Eagles might draft a bust QB in the first round… So instead he wants to sign the biggest bust QB of the last 6 years to a contract.
Sam Bradford is a First Pick Bust who the Rams dumped on Kelly….
The Eagles could not possibly draft a more disappointing QB than Bradford has been and still is….
Making it up? lol. here is what you had to say about Foles in June of 2014….
“If I were starting a franchise, or rebuilding a program (which the Eagles are), I’d be very comfortable with any of those 3 running the O.
QB rankings for the Eagles (who would be best for this young re-tooling team moving forward)
1 – Rodgers – obv
2 – Luck – pretty obv
3 – Foles or Wilson – I think both have very similar career progressions so far
……………….
Foles will be a ‘top 10’ QB this year, with a very good chance of putting up ‘top 5’ numbers in this offense. He’s a good Qb to have going forward.”
hmmm…. not so much
I give you credit tho…. you changed your tune on Wilson… just a few years late.
OK.
So after 2013 season I said
1 – Wilson was one of the top 4 QBs in the leage to start building a team around. Hmmmm….just about the exact opposite of what you claimed I had said about him never winning and all that.
So nice try there.
2 – I said Foles was also a top Qb to build the Eagles around and he had a career arc (at that point) very similar to Wilson’s (which was absolutely true at this point).
I said he would have put up “top 10” numbers and been a “good qb”
Ummm….he threw 13 tds and 2160 yrds in 7.5 games. Had he not gotten hurt, it is reasonable to assume he’d have thrown 26/27 tds and 4200/4300 yrds. That would have put him 7th-9th for yards and 11th – 13th for TDs.
Wow. Soooo far off from what I predicted. He got hurt, he got traded a to where Qbs go to die. (and where Sam Fitzpatrick died long ago)
And certainly a lot better than the drivel this Sham Waterford who you seem to feel the incessant need to defend at every moment.
Either way….there is absolutely no denying the fact that the Eagles would be in a better place right now had the Eagles not made the trade for Sammy 7s.
this reply from stevo reminded me of a quote i once saw:
“never waste your time trying to explain yourself to a person committed to misunderstanding you”
As i explained…. you changed your tune on WIlson AFTER he lit it up and you had to.
I find it funny that Sam in STL is what he is… but Foles going there “got traded a place where Qbs go to die”- you are just silly.
As far as Mheski goes- yea… I went from “making stuff up” to “misunderstanding” him. lol.
nah you went from making stuff up to making stuff up, never changed
weirdo man. how you gonna lie?
your proof does not prove he said what you originally wrote and went so far as to put it in quotes…
LMAO…mhenski calling someone ‘weird’
mhenski aka Mr Multipleprofiles aka mKKKhenski aka mpervhenski
Weirdo…you are the last person that should call someone weird with your KKK outfits and perv pics in the basement of ya Momma’s house..
CTFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kool u work the grave yard shift why ? Cuz ur uneducated Unskilled and unlikeable.
U don’t understand how ertz curry and land Johnson have a bigger cap hit with their new deals compared to their old, why? Because your a dumbass that doesn’t understand 3rd grade math
You make up things like I’m a racist , why ? Because you’re delusional and don’t live in reality and your pathetic life is so lame and depressing so you make up fantasy worlds
You call straight men who love boobs perverts, why ? Because you’re either homosexual or infantile.
You watched the super bowl alone with nobody to talk to, why? Because of all the above reasons and nobody likes you in real life because of that. Maybe you should join the klan you are always thinking about just to interact with people.
Lonely pathetic delusional uneducated unskilled infantile homosexual racist & unlikeable is you
LMAO!!!!!
you mad bro!!!!
listen..I understand…
We know your not ‘lonely’…you have plenty of racist friends in your KKK club
they keep you with company…you can look at a bunch of pervert magazines with them…
And you had the gall to get mad cause no one was interested in your pervert stuff and your rancid racism..with your multi-purpose sheet you wear…LMAO
you can take the white sheet off and lay on your park bench with it…put a dunce cap on with the sheet over it…presto…got your KKK uniform..
It’s probably a bit musty and crusty so you may need to wash it in the basement of ya Mama house if you get a job and she lets you move back in the basement!!
LMAO…pathetic…m aka the racist perv henski!!!! CTFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kool u work the grave yard shift why ? Cuz ur uneducated Unskilled and unlikeable.
U don’t understand how ertz curry and land Johnson have a bigger cap hit with their new deals compared to their old, why? Because your a dumbass that doesn’t understand 3rd grade math
You make up things like I’m a racist , why ? Because you’re delusional and don’t live in reality and your pathetic life is so lame and depressing so you make up fantasy worlds
You call straight men who love boobs perverts, why ? Because you’re either homosexual or infantile.
You watched the super bowl alone with nobody to talk to, why? Because of all the above reasons and nobody likes you in real life because of that. Maybe you should join the klan you are always thinking about just to interact with people.
Lonely pathetic delusional uneducated unskilled infantile homosexual racist & unlikeable is you
This is Philadelphia ya dumbass ain’t no klan around here either. Foolish fumvass queer live in the rea world ya friendless weirdo
This is Philadelphia ya dumbass ain’t no klan around here either. Foolish friendless queer live in the real world ya friendless weirdo
LOL….
Vinniedafoolass…what a persistent flip-flop guy you are…desperately trying to flip the script and re-write your history of QB/football ignorance
Like a fish out of water on the deck of a boat before you gut it…you are flipping around trying to change the narrative of your recorded incompetence…. …
Stevo might not be fully aware of your bullshit…he knows it…but you know that I know your bullshit very well!
You were an unabashed Russell Wilson hater…he fell into that ‘mobile Quarterback’ that you hated so much…just like you hated Vick, just like you hate Cam Newton..
Then Russell Wilson won..with big time, clutch performances in the playoffs and left you looking dumb (just like with Cam Newton)
So “Presto”…suddenly you are the big Russell Wilson supporter!
Bullshit!
What a lame ass you truly are, Vinniedafool!
Then you have the unmitigated gall to try to push this pass us:
“I said Foles was also a top Qb to build the Eagles around and he had a career arc (at that point) very similar to Wilson’s (which was absolutely true at this point).”
Foles was no where near and never been anywhere near Russell Wilson’s status as a QB. Top QB of what???…Nick Foles had some good games against very inferior opponents in Chip Kelly’s brand new offense.
“Foles was a better option than Vick (he was). Foles went 10-2 throwing 27 tds in 12 games (or whatever) and left the field in a playoff game with the lead. (he did) I said this was exciting and promising (it was) I said the Eagles should extend him with a “Kaepernick type deal””
Total and absolute bullshit!
We all watched Foles get his ass kicked by Vick in training camp…Vick won the job fair and square by everyone’s account…that year the Eagles tough opponents Denver, San Diego were played early in the year…Vick put up excellent numbers but our defense sucked…Vick gets hurt and Foles goes on a roll against some sub-par teams…pads his stats…and gets beat at home in the playoffs where he put in a sub-par performance. A Home playoff game that we were favored to win but loss because Nick Foles repeatedly missed open receivers running free in New Orleans secondary. Foles blew a ton of opportunities to blow the game open . The All-22 tape of the playoff game against the Saints showed Foles missing a wide open DJax running free…time after time again…Foles left the door open for Drew Brees to take advantage of a worn out defense…
So it was after Chip Kelly’s first season and BEFORE the 2014 season you were croaking for Foles to be signed as a franchise QB…you wanted the Eagles to tie themselves to Nick Foles and it was then you were saying bullshit like:
“Foles will be a ‘top 10’ QB this year, with a very good chance of putting up ‘top 5’ numbers in this offense. He’s a good Qb to have going forward.”
It was at this point that you foolishly wanted the Eagles to sign Foles to the big money, franchise QB contract…while I argued with you and others that Foles should be the starter and the 2014 season should be used to determine IF Foles was truly a franchise QB!
I said back then it would be incredibly stupid and premature to sign Foles to a long term deal…that he should have to prove that his 27-2 wasn’t a fluke…(which I knew it was) and that the upcoming year with the pressure on as the starter, with Vick out of the picture…he could prove that he deserved the big money.
We all know what happened next…
Foles came out and he stunk…he folded under the pressure..got hurt. He proved what I always thought of him…a guy that’s ok except when the pressure is on…when the pressure was on for him to fight for the job with Vick….he folded…when the pressure was on in the playoff game to produce, he fell short and played a sub-par game…and when the pressure of entering into a season as the starter playing for his long term contract …he fell apart again!
Foles choked..because that is what he is…a choker who cant handle pressure.
It was AFTER the Foles choke job of 2014, THEN you wanted to sign Foles to a “Kaepernick like deal”, when I was arguing that both Foles and Sanchez were back up QB’s not worth the money…and that we should get rid of Foles…
Chip Kelly agreed and got rid of Foles leaving you bitterly without your man crush! You tried to twist this slap in the face…you told us: Hey, Sam Bradford is my type…a pocket Quarterback instead of a guy running around…
Only to flip-flop again…why…because you boy down in St Louis proved that you were dead damm wrong about him being a “top-ten Quarterback”…
LOL…ya busted Vinnie
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heres an interesting stat
sam bradford has the 6th worst percentage of ints returned for a td with a percentage of picks thrown being a pick 6 at 16.2%
thats 6th worst in the history of the NFL. careless with the rock and doesnt throw over 5 yards lmfao
Sideways throws around the LOS are dangerous.
Sammy Sideways!! (damn, its just too easy)
Sammy sideways… We have our winner. I like the subtlety of Sam Waterford but expect much of the unwashed masses to not understand the reference
Agreed. I still chuckle every time I write Sammy Waterford, but it just isn’t getting any traction. Like you I fear its a little too highbrow for the masses.
Sammy Sideways it is…..for now……dude is basically an unlimited vessel of material.
right on time koolbreeze just waking up for the graveyard shift…
Kool….. Just tell us why why you want the best of the shitty QBs ..wtf … The guy has not done shit.,, you are touting a bunch of losses with stats as his resume…. Please someone ..kool, CT or someone quote some consistent stats from games won (I understand it’s a small sample size)… Just give me something.,, some fourth quarter comebacks, some shoot outs with good QBs , some days where the run was stuffed and he just willed the team to win.,, give me plenty of these examples and I sign off on sideways sam… Just fill in the blanks
Damn, he’ll be searching for a long time.
6 4th Q comebacks in his career….4 of them in 2012. One “comeback” resulted in a tie. The wins? 13-12….15-14…15-12….In one he didn’t even throw a TD…not in the forth…..not all game…..
Oh…and Bradford, playing most of his career in STL had a gazzillion opportunities for comebacks….but never came thru.
Now with the Eagles….at halftime…..
Down 17 vs atl…loss
Down 3 vs Dall…loss
Down 13 vs Wsh….loss
Down 8 vs Carolina…loss
Down 7 vs Ariz….loss
Down 6 vs Wsh….loss
To dream that Sammy Sideways is going to lead a team on a 4th Q, let alone 2nd half comeback fucking delusional.
haveacigar, when your defense sucks, your wide receivers sucks, your running game sucks, your offensive line sucks..and you still complete 65% of your passes, you stand in the pocket, you get rid of the ball and in a year where you had very little training camp and hadn’t played in 2 years….as the year went on…you got better in the last 7 games you have 10 td’s and 4 interceptions while the team around you still sucks…you pull off a big overtime win against the hated Cowboys, you upset Washington…and when I look closely at the games I dont see games that we can pin on the Qb for the loss.
You guys refuse to look at any of the external factors…..you want to say…oh those are just excuses and he didn’t do anything with the Rams…
But with the Rams under the same conditions he did far better than what Nick Foles did there…and Nick Foles had one of the best young running backs in the league!
There is a reason that his teammates and spoken in his favor…a reason why they spoke to his leadership, and a reason why an intelligent player like Malcolm Jenkins says they believe they can win with Sam Bradford….
With that in mind, I need a compelling reason that proves the next guy you are bring in is better than Bradford. If you had a high draft pick in this draft and you told me you got a young QB with more talent than Bradford…I’d agree…lets get rid of him and get a QB we can put in for the next 10 years…but no one is saying that…you are talking about getting a back up from another team or worse trying to bring back the failed Nick Foles
I’ll Pass on those moves and for at least next year I’ll give Bradford another shot…and if you guys are right about Bradford and he stinks so badly…then we will lose a bunch of games and enter into the Watson sweepstakes…if he stinks fine…but if he is good and our defense is good we can make the playoffs in a weak NFC East..and once you are in you got a shot!
error: I meant you upset New England
“you pull off a big overtime win against the hated Cowboys”
LOL
ONE touchdown pass against the terrible 4-12 Matt Cassel led Cowboys in the midst of a 7 game losing streak!!
What an accomplishment. Celebrate it Koolbreeze!! Preach from the mountaintops!!!
“But with the Rams under the same conditions he did far better than what Nick Foles did there…”
In Stl
Bradford 18 wins….30 losses 1 tie………365 win %
Foles 4 wins 7 losses……360 win %
Much better indeed!!! Celebrate it Koolbreeze!! Preach from the mountaintops!!!
LOL you putz
Yup!
A big time win…made a clutch throw with Hardy bearing down on him for the game winner. Funny, I don’t remember any tight games with Foles where he made a walk off throw to win a game.
Never…I do remember him throwing balls out of bounds, not giving the receiver a chance to fight for a ball and us losing…but no game winning touchdown throws
“In Stl
Bradford 18 wins….30 losses 1 tie………365 win %
Foles 4 wins 7 losses……360 win %”
LMAO…you and your dumb ass stats..there is a stat here you are missing that tells the whole story…
In Stl
No# of Times Benched for flatout stinking ass
Foles-Twice
Bradford-0
Foles with a super young running back in Gurley…one of the best in the NFL, a much improved defense, better wide receivers was still benched….twice!!!
CTFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yup…keep up with the Foles defense Vinniedafoolass
Of course, as a Sam hater anything he did well is downplayed…no surprise
In Stl
Bradford 18 wins….30 losses 1 tie………365 win %
Foles 4 wins 7 losses……360 win %
LOL The delusions get grandeur every minute. You are losing it buddy.
“A big time win…made a clutch throw with Hardy bearing down on him for the game winner. ”
LOL
Only in your puny mind does a 5 yrd crossing pattern to a wide open WR become a “clutch throw!!!!”
LOL…Just like Roethlisberger to Santonio Holmes!!
LOL
“Funny, I don’t remember any tight games with Foles where he made a walk off throw to win a game.”
Of course you don;t. You’re only 16.
TD pass to Maclin with no time left to win vs TB….as a rookie
2 4th Q td passes in come from behind victory over NYG after replacing your loser first hero
4th Q rush td to take lead in 4th Q against det
4th Q td in final mins to take lead in a playoff game vs Saints
(Has Bradford ever made it to the playoffs?)
4th Q td in final min vs STL to take game to OT and win it there
Nick Foles is gone and done in Philly….but man it must really get your goat knowing that Nick Foles, who you despise, is waaaayyyyy more clutch then your hero Sammy Sevens.
Damm…for the first time ever I will admit you got me Vinnie…
How could I possibly forget that very last meaningless game of that wretched season where at the time neither the Eagles or Tampa Bay were eliminated from the playoff contention… Tampa Bay and the Eagles playing a bunch of back ups and soon to be cut guys…
Foles came up big time…Mr Clutch threw up a wobbly pass towards the endzone and Maclin came up with a miraculous catch to win that game…
How could I possibly forget that?
The others dont count because they were not the game winning pass…the walk off shut the door win…and you damm sure cant count the home playoff loss where Foles sucked most of the game missing DJax consistently running open in the Saints backfield…a game where any other competent QB would have thrown for 400 or more yards and racked up 30 or more points …
The Dallas walk off touchdown win came with Hardy bearing down on Bradford…and Bradford staying poised and composed in the pocket and then delivering a strike to Matthews in stride on the money for a 41 yard TD knockout blow to our most hated rivals the Cowboys…
I know you dont talk much with Cowboy fans in the city or on the job because your homeless and broke…not many football fans are on that park bench you got…so I understand you dont see the significance of beating the Cowboys and putting the nail in their coffin that ended their chances…
That was a sweet but then again…I understand
“how da fuck would you know” is your mantra anyway…LMAO
Dumb ass!
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