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Sam Bradford and The Eagles Meet In The Middle

SamBradford7It’s a done deal.  The Eagles and Sam Bradford agreed to meet in the middle with him getting a two-year deal worth $36 million dollars with $26 million dollars of it guaranteed.  This is not yet a long-term marriage.  It could end after the 2016 season. If things don’t go very well in 2016, the Birds will be able to get out of it with about a $9 million dollar hit against the cap next year.

I think it’s a good deal for both the Eagles and Bradford.  I know that Eagles head coach Doug Pederson is more in love with Bradford than Howie Roseman and other members of the decision-making team, but I think Roseman did a good job with the signing.

This couple (the Eagles and Bradford) has decided to continue their relationship not because they’re totally in love with each other, but because they don’t have much there when it comes to options.  The Birds won’t be able to get the better quarterback prospects in this year’s draft with their number 13 pick and there’s not much there in free agency either.

With the Houston Texans not particularly interested in Bradford, he doesn’t have a good option to take from a team standpoint, so he wanted to return to the Eagles.  He’s familiar with much of Pederson’s offense because it’s primarily an offense built on concepts from the West Coast offense.   He’s also familiar with his teammates, which should give him the best chance to succeed.

I don’t think there’s going to be a great team for them to beat in the NFC East this year.  I think the Eagles could win the division if they stay relatively healthy at the quarterback position and on the offensive line.  The injury-prone quarterback knows he will probably get a long-term deal if he can lead the Eagles to the playoffs.

Bradford played in the West Coast offense for the first two years of his career, when former Eagles offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur was his offensive coordinator in St. Louis.

Say what you want about Bradford, he knows how to be in the right place at the right time, when it comes to making money.

GCOBB

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Jeff Kolsky
March 2, 2016 6:58 am

After breaking down film and paying close attention to the NFL combine, none of the QB’s that were going to be available for the Eagles would be ready to start until the 2018 season. I say this, as the talent could certainly be there for guys like Lynch, Prescott and a few others, but these college kids aren’t close to being ready.

Free agency is horrible for available qb’s this and looking at the 2017 class, it’s the same below average talent. Coach Pederson has made it known that he prefers to have his rookie sit his first year, learn from the stater and ease into the NFL.

I see the Eagles drafting a QB this draft, and then again next draft. Although Bradford has numerous question marks from both a talent and health standpoint, there simply wasn’t a better solution.

Bradford back for two years and how his contract breaks down provides the Eagles with “time” to find their next QB and $$ to sign the likes of Cox, the incoming rookie class, and sign some free agents.

Whether we are happy with Bradford or not, Kap wasn’t coming to Philly ( I don’t see him leaving SF), RG3 wasn’t coming here, and either Sanchez or Daniel would have been harder to watch each week.

We can now explore what are reasonable targets in free agency, and what’s the best route to take in the draft.

Personally, I hope the Eagles are offered a deal in the draft to trade out of pick #13. I feel there are players in that 25-60 range that I’d prefer to have 2 guys from that talent pool rather then taking just the one player at pick #13.

Oldphillyfan
Oldphillyfan
March 2, 2016 8:05 am

Glad you finally came around to my point of view – “Bradford + a rookie to groom” is the best way to go. In fact, it was the only way to go that makes any sense. Question now is who is that rookie. If In their opinion Lynch is the best option, then that is the way they must go. The position is too important for the future. Otherwise, welcome aboard!

Jeff Kolsky
March 2, 2016 8:50 am
Reply to  Oldphillyfan

I would not go Lynch, there is plenty I really like at pick #13, and Lynch is not part of that.

The question marks on majority of remaining QB’s..I think some are lucky to end up being a backup in NFL, but let’s say their ceiling is K. Cousins, I’m looking for a top QB of the future not a average guy.

For me, I’d love for a team like the Texans to really want Lynch, to be scared that the Rams also want him, and make the trade with the Eagles, with us landing their pk in rd 1 and rd 2.

With the Texans pick, I’d let Howie and Doug draft whatever they want between best OT, S or even WR.

I have the OG taken care of in round 3, I have 2 guys that I’d love to make the interior line tandem for the next 5-7 years. (Christian Westerman ASU and Connor McGovern from Missouri).

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2016 9:13 am

Actually, from what I understand, if the Eagles cut Bradford after this season, and he signs with another team (he would) then its only a 5.5 million “dead cap” hit in 2017. Seeing that if he is on the roster it would be a 24 million cap hit in 2017, its a guarantee he will not be in Philly in 2017 on this deal.

So this is a one year deal for $22 million guaranteed. The Eagles paid a 2.1 million premium (over a tag) to ensure they control his rights after the season and can re-sign, trade, or flat out cut the guy.

mhenski
mhenski
March 2, 2016 9:39 am

yea with a 23.5 mill cap hit next year he will either resign if there is success (HAAAAAAAA) or be gone if theres not. although if he is cut he will still count 8.5 against the cap which is a problem

mhenski
mhenski
March 2, 2016 9:40 am
Reply to  mhenski

it has been brought to my attention he was refferred to as Sam Bradturd in St Louis.

mhenski
mhenski
March 2, 2016 9:46 am

“either Sanchez or Daniel would have been harder to watch each week.”

would they have? last years qb play was some of the worst uninspiring play ive ever seen in philly.. we had a qb scared to death to throw the ball over 10 yards (17% of his attempts) and we saw week in week out him scared to throw the ball to or past the 1st down marker and instead throwing it to a rb for no good reason.

daniel, bradturd, or sanchez all are the same but i wouldnt be so sure daniels and sanchez wouldve been harder to watch…

summup
summup
March 2, 2016 10:50 am

I could care less who’s there at 13…..I’d trade back and get that second pic back.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
March 2, 2016 10:55 am
Reply to  summup

I am on board with this. They could slide back and still get an impact OL in the mid to late first round.

summup
summup
March 2, 2016 10:58 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!! NOW THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT…..I agree 100%

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 2, 2016 11:37 am
Reply to  summup

I agree trade down…draft an offensive lineman-a guard who you can pick up with a late round pick…see if you can get some speed at wide receiver…we need a burner to open up the field . In Free Agency, now that we have secured the QB we should see if we can grab Kelechi Osemele away from Baltimore..that would be a nice move!

mhenski
mhenski
March 2, 2016 11:54 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

“we need a burner to open up the field” uh why ? sam dont throw the ball downfield. he consistently got 1 on 1 match ups and there was plenty of times WR were running free but the coward refuses to take chances over 10 yards…

btw desean jackson is known as a burner and ran a 4.35 40, Nelson Agholor ran a 4.42 40, thats not a huge difference. we have speed at WR but the turd needs to throw over 10 yards. they cant throw to themselves

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 2, 2016 11:11 am

Now the Eagles have to put together a legitimate offensive line…what sense does it make to give a guy a massive 36 million dollar contract with 26 million guaranteed but dont make the necessary improvements on the O-line to protect the guy.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2016 11:18 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

Takes 2 years to get rookie linemen up to speed (perhaps less for guards)

So 2 rookie guards this year means they’ll be hitting their stride going into the 2017 season…at which point Eagles will also be adding a replacement tackle.

The Line will be gelling through the 2017 season. (barring no injuries)

Precisely why they signed Sammy Sevens to a one year bridge deal holding the place for the rookie in 2017 to come in behind the improving line.

The Problem with Bradford is however he is good enough get the Eagles to 7 wins and lose out on a high draft pick next year, but not good enough to do anything else.

zilents44
zilents44
March 2, 2016 11:35 am

So moving pass Bradford contract, no need to keep bringing it up, its done, gotta trade back and I’d go after Lane Johnson twin spriggs from Indiana, draft Connor cook with newly acquired 2nd Rd pick, go guard in 3rd Rd, then DT in 3rd Rd, then try to get a field streching receiver in 4th Rd, then go og in 5th again, then defensive players the rest of draft……free agency wise I go after Jeff Allen, George iiloka or resean mccloud. Maybe some low tier depth 3 technique who won’t demand a lot of money

zilents44
zilents44
March 2, 2016 11:39 am
Reply to  zilents44

Anybody got a list of low tier free agents from interior o line and d line available

zilents44
zilents44
March 2, 2016 11:52 am
Reply to  zilents44

Oline who should be cut immediately, Dennis kelly, David milk, and Matt Tobin…..keep Bunche, Gardner and barbre for depth……add free agent guard Jeff Allen, and two drafted olinemen In spriggs and another one in 3rd Rd, preferred one that can play guard and center…..that would be a solid group of olinemen

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 2, 2016 11:56 am

bwahahahahaahaha, What the F@$%!!!!!!!!!!
GCobb just wrote this, above in his article?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
“I know that Eagles head coach Doug Pederson is more in love with Bradford than Howie Roseman and other members of the decision-making team,”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
WTF that does that mean?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
1.) The Eagles are really trying to tell the Gary Cobbs of the world, Howie is not on board with resigning Sam Bradford, don’t blame him, blame Pederson if it goes wrong?
2.) and Who the hell is the other members of the decision making team?

mhenski
mhenski
March 2, 2016 12:02 pm

awful article by gary as usual. there was a time where he let writers like Jeff and Denny write tons of articles but I suspect Gary couldnt afford to pay them that much any longer because he doesnt get enough clicks (ad revenue) to justify the expenses. so what we get is an article every 2 weeks now and 1 of the 2 are awful gary articles.

guy should be paying kool, without him this site wouldnt get half the clicks

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 2, 2016 12:15 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I don’t know if Gary is being told by Lurie, Smolinski or Howie himself that Howie is not on board with Sam Bradford and only resigned him to appease Doug Pederson but I’m not buying that crock of horse manure. That snake isn’t blaming the Chipper for bringing him and Pederson for keeping him when the same crapping 7-9 record happens next year after the gimp( #7) goes down with a predictable injury.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 2, 2016 12:19 pm

HOWIE ROSEMAN is MARRIED TO SAM BRADFORD.
It is his boy now.
this trio has 2 years to win the Division and succeed in the playoffs.
the 3 stooges :
Dougy, Sammy and Howie

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 2, 2016 12:21 pm

DOUGIE, SAMMY, & HOWIE —

CT
CT
March 2, 2016 12:45 pm

Forget moving back.
We can make up for the loss of that 2nd round pick by taking a STUD at 13. Hopefully 3 qbs go in the top 12 so it increases our chances of getting a top linemen, maybe a treadwell? Or Alexander? We have 2 third round picks. We just gotta make sure we make them count. I say atleast one of those 3rd rounders will be a olinemen. Bring in one more in FA.

Peters still has some good ball left in him. Especially if you slow things down and play methodical football. Lane will be in year 4 and should be well adjusted to the game by now along with Kelce who is a athletic, freak who is stronger then most people think. I cann really see the bopped snaps taking a step back with the way coach runs this offense.

Stevo
Stevo
March 2, 2016 12:47 pm

With this silly debate all over…. let us look now to what we do next. Signing Bradford was the only serious option, lets see now what guards we could bring in to help him. Also… anyone see Pman? Im seriously worried. Any know have an email or anything?

CT
CT
March 2, 2016 12:49 pm

We need Paulman up in this bitch with his daily mocks, and free agents listings.

Last comment I saw the man make was him stating something along the lines “Blake Griffin is a cancer and the sixers should stay clear of him”

That was like a month ago. I hope the man is okay.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 2, 2016 1:12 pm

Yeah…Paulman has been gone too long..hope he’s okay..

E-money
E-money
March 2, 2016 1:48 pm

The only think I like less than the Bradford signing is the Pederson signing.

Put some orange helmets on us and call us the Browns.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 2, 2016 2:48 pm

speaking of value and qB market…i bet sideways wishes he were Flacco!

greenfan
greenfan
March 2, 2016 3:02 pm

I don’t see that there were many other good choices here. The contract is short and at a relatively friendly qb cap amount.

I want to see what Bradford can do with Pedersons offense. He proved that he was able to come back from the knee injuries and now he should be in a more typical pro offense that will be less vanilla and have more ability to audible to attack what the defense is giving you.

I believe that we will have a strong defense with Schwartz at DC. Our OL is my biggest concern and should be addressed with one vetran free agent and one high draft pick.

While I do not see this team going to the SB next year, I can see a team with a strong defense, good special teams and an offense that does not turn over the ball leading the NFC East.

It is a long offseason, but this was a predictable move that will give them some stability in the short term.

Go Birds.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2016 3:31 pm

I googles Paul Mancini Boone NC (That’s where he says he lives right?)

There were no obits, but a profile for a Paul E Mancini 50 who also lived in Penn at one time. Figured must be him. They have his address, phone # right out there.

Serioulsy man…..why do people put all that stuff out there on the web?

mhenski
mhenski
March 2, 2016 3:41 pm

give him a call. his work info is easy to find also. paul has posted every detail about his life on here. weird.

frankly i hope the man took a break, he was extremely addicted to this site. was on here everyday as soon as he woke up, then on his cell, then on at work, then on at night, every holiday, all hours of the day and night, and live blogged play by plays from random non philly games.

hopefully he out there trying to live life

zilents44
zilents44
March 2, 2016 3:42 pm

I hope he is OK……need the guy for annual mocks, always has some good sleepers

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 2, 2016 3:53 pm

Paulman is here – He is leading a double life…. He is hiding in plain sight… He is disguised as a 10 year-old Hindu boy.

daggolden
daggolden
March 2, 2016 6:20 pm

Gcobbers continue to be comical. We will just draft a QB and groom him. If only so easy. Hell if it was that easy everybody would have one.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 2, 2016 7:15 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Seattle just did it. Green Bay did it. Pittsburgh did it. Giants did it.

Looks like the damn Riders and Jaguars have just done it.

But a lot of people in here handcuffed by the fear of failure. “Look at Cleveland” I’ve heard 20,000x in here.

No. I won;t. I don’t give a shit that Cleveland has failed. Or that other teams have failed.

I am not going to let that fear of failure paralyze me into the whole “best option” arguement that a bunch of morons in here espouse.

.360 is not “best available. Its a frikkin place holder and that’s it.

A hell of a lot of pussies in here that are scared of taking a risk to go for greatness, and instead celebrate the settling for mediocrity that Sammy Sevens represents.

Sad.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 2, 2016 9:22 pm

LOL..are you kidding me…

Suddenly your Mr Bold and Audacious!

Bullshit!!

Vinniedafool your answer was to go and get Nick Foles!

You didn’t provide and still haven’t provided a single name that the Eagles should go after…you haven’t made the call.

“Seattle just did it. Green Bay did it. Pittsburgh did it. Giants did it.”

Bullshit…

Seattle lucked up into Russell Wilson…they were in QB hell
took a desperate grab for Matt Flynn…Wilson beat him out in camp

Green Bay had Brett Farve..Fool…Aaron Rodgers was waiting in the wings developing.

Pittsburgh drafted Big Ben at 11 and in their talent evaluation of him they saw him as a Franchise QB-what QB in this draft have you evaluated and said…this guy that we can get at 13 is a Franchise QB?

The Giants had the First Pick in the Draft and everyone acknowledged that Eli Manning was a blue-chip prospect worthy of the No#1 pick

None of these teams situations can be likened to the Eagles

Vinniedafool wanted the Eagles to make a blind leap into an abyss where he himself refused on the GCobb forum to make a call and tell us who this future QB should be that the Eagles invest in and why?

Oh…I forgot…the tough guy wanted us to go back to his mancrush Nick Foles..LMAO!!!!

“Looks like the damn Riders and Jaguars have just done it.”

Fool ass…be consistent…the Raiders Derek Carr was 7-9 last year! Just like the Eagles

Blake Bortles was 5-11 idiot…what have they done? Both of these teams have better wide receivers than the Eagles!

“A hell of a lot of pussies in here that are scared of taking a risk to go for greatness, and instead celebrate the settling for mediocrity that Sammy Sevens represents.”

What a lame ass fool…and Vinniedafool has the unmitigated gall to talk about being “scared” or call someone ‘pussies”…Are you kidding me!! No one in here is as scared and wimpy as you Vinniedafoolass…LMAO
Your ‘bold’ stand was to call for the return of Nick Foles…lame ass!!
““Daniels, Fitzpatrick, Hoyer….hell even Foles….who cares?”
The daring risk by Vinniedafool…the reach for ‘greatness’…???
“hell even Foles” says Vinniedafool

LOL…stop it…just stop it Vinnie

Fool ass!

You want to call that a ‘risk to go for greatness’…LMAO

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 2, 2016 7:32 pm
Reply to  daggolden

wait a second, Dag are you really supporting Sam Bradford for $18 million a year?
So everything is solved now. All your wishes were granted.
No Billy Davis, Check!
No Riley Cooper, Check!
No Chip “Gimmick Offense” Kelly, Check!
Vinny Curry should be starting, Check!
Eagles should play 4-3 not 3-4, Check!
Resign best option to win now Sam Bradford, Check!
Super Bowl here we come. Your plan is installed.

daggolden
daggolden
March 3, 2016 6:45 am

Yes I am supporting Bradford. I understand his past, I know the excuses aren’t warranted by many but I just have this feeling that Bradford is the one. Ireally do. I truly believe timing is everything. I’m a big believer in most athletes are similar in talent and just need to be in the right place at the right time. I think this team has a lot of talent and with a couple of the right moves that in 2 years we will be contending. One year removed from injuries, one year removed from not being able to audible and rushing to the LOS to run a play. I year removed from the defense not knowing what is coming. I year removed from hanging your defense out to dry.One year removed from rehabbing in off-season instead of going to OTAs. and camp. Give Bradford a running game, a oline, some playmakers and a normal coach and I believe he will thrive. IMO

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2016 8:52 am
Reply to  daggolden

dag- i cautiously support your view- the eagles are hoping to catch lightning in a bottle somehow–kind of a jim plunkett story– number one pick who absolutely sucked (bradford meets that criteria)- and hopefully get him in a stable environment- manage the game– I said at the outset the best thing to do was sign him– it may blow up- i’m not super psyched, but hes our QB and move on-
should we draft a qb– hell yes– should draft one every other year i believe….

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
March 3, 2016 9:48 am
Reply to  haveacigar

My two biggest reasons for optimism for Sam are as follows (putting aside all external factors like drops, o-line, talented skill players, etc.):

1. A system that allows Sam to control at the line of scrimmage taps in to what is arguably Sam’s best attribute – reading defenses and football awareness.

2. Stats aside, Sam’s precision improved dramatically as the season progressed. You saw plenty of back shoulder throws and throws in tight windows later in the season that weren’t there early in the season. I’m hoping this had a lot to do with comfortability with his receiving core and it continues through to 2017.

My two biggest reason for pessimism with Sam are as follows:

1. Injuries. Even in Sam’s healthy years he seems to miss games.
2. He needs to give his progressions more time to develop. This is quite possibility the biggest hit against Sam and I agree that we saw a lot of issues with this last year. I don’t know how much of that was on the Chip Kelly “get the ball out of your hands” system but I truly hope he improves in this area next year.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 3, 2016 11:45 am

The Chipper was perfect for Sam Bradford. Fast plays and getting rid of the football quickly. Doug Pederson is going to get him drilled scanning the field with Coach Reid’s misdirection play book. Mike Vick, Donavan McNabb, Alex Smith have the legs to scan the field Kevin Kolb and Sam Bradford don’t.

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
March 3, 2016 11:53 am

You don’t need legs to scan the field, you need pocket presence. Case and point – Tom Brady and Peyton manning are two of the best at scanning the field and they are slower than molasses. Sam’s pocket presence improved dramatically as the season progressed which is shown by the lack of sacks he took despite an awful offensive line. The key is, can he keep his eyes downfield while avoiding pressure. That is what I referenced above,.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 3, 2016 1:06 pm

“improved dramatically ”

Ya…from absolute shit to sub-mediocre.

Its was dramatic improvement from absolute garbage to mostly garbage.

Good times.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2016 1:49 pm

when people talk about sams last 7 games and how great he was i scratch my head… I don’t understand it at all. he was 4-3- the 4th win was a meaningless game with the eagles playing a lifeless team, another win over dallas who was pathetic– a win over pats with very mediocre qb play– but give credit for the win…however two must win games– arizona and washington he put up great stats AFTER the game was out of reach… wierd.

Stevo
Stevo
March 3, 2016 11:52 am

Still debating our signing of the Qb… Shaking head.

Still haven’t heard a reasonable answer to what they have done instead. Draft the best available qb and throw him out there ASAP was about the only kind of suggested answer from the simpletons. Forget that our GM and HC made it clear they wanted Sam back. Not him.. Anyone but him was the mantra. The fact is… There were not major qbs in FA to go for… None. The GM, HC and most others recognize you don’t just throw a rookie out there. And unless you want a Sanchez or to pay a guy like Chase… There were no other options.

My hope moving forward… 1. Draft a big, strong, somewhat mobile QB in this draft that grows 3 inches over the summer. I pray it’s a 7th rounder and that he is so good they start him day 1. Thats my hope. But I know that for every Brady or Wilson… There is a mountain of bust type players drafted. Best to push them and also let then learn/develop. 2. I pray we get past this silliness and we get behind this team regardless of who is under center. We have talent on this team and I am excited to see what we can do.

Let’s go Eagles!

Stevo
Stevo
March 3, 2016 2:30 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Im still waiting for what you would have done… SPECIFICALLY. names. what would you have done?

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2016 3:45 pm
Reply to  Stevo

If you are asking me that question Stevo- i said from the beginning, stick with bradford- we are in QB hell– he is our cutler, tannehill etc– stick with him and draft someone and see if you can find a wilson (rd 3), breese (2) etc– its good the eagles didn’t marry him long term–

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2016 4:06 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

John Brown he’s available, speed guy gotta get him

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2016 4:09 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I can’t believe they gave John Brown such a low tender no draft picks I would give him 5 mill a yr right now, dumb by cardinals

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 3, 2016 5:29 pm
Reply to  zilents44

The Cardinals got a lot of receivers…not surprised they may let Brown go…he would be an upgrade…we need a speed guy! If he’s truly available we should go for him.

This is the critical time…Sam Bradford needs 2 major upgrades-outside wide receiver and Offensive Guard.. this should be a priority for us heading into free agency.

Stevo
Stevo
March 3, 2016 5:35 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Still waiting to hear from the Sam B haters what they wanted the Eagles to do. Specific names. I dont get their tears and I want to know what they wanted instead.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 3, 2016 6:31 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Oh well, Stevo…you missed it…they had some specific names:

Vinnie- wanted Nick Foles
Eagleshaslanded wanted RG3
deserteagle wanted Chase Daniels

All of the haters wanted to draft a QB…to groom as a “Franchise QB’ to lead us to a future Super Bowl…

Of course, they have no clue and very few suggestions as to which Qb would be available in the draft that they evaluated as a Franchise QB. EHL suggested that Paxton Lynch of Memphis….most are scared to death to stick their necks out and predict which one of the rookies the Eagles should grab….

Stevo
Stevo
March 3, 2016 7:16 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

No Kool, he didnt. YOU wanted him to WANT Foles. But thats not what he said.

zilents44
zilents44
March 3, 2016 7:17 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

I wouldn’t worry about what they wanted stevo, it doesn’t matter, let’s just talk what we need, gotta get a speed guy and John Brown is ready to go, he’s coached up, humble and most importantly productive, and we should know first hand the guy kills us all the time

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 3, 2016 7:35 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Lol, koolbreeze looking for friends and allies…Stevo flatout busted you, caught lying and making shit up again… thought you had a friend there huh?, maybe next time…keep trying bruh… lmao!!!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 3, 2016 7:39 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

And once again reading is fundamental, I have repeatedly said Carson Wentz is my guy, cliff likes Lynch….

fuckin moron!

Stevo
Stevo
March 3, 2016 7:44 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Eagleland- Im good with the birds drafting a qb anywhere they can find one. I hope both rook and Sam both look amazing… Im sick of this pick a guy and hitch a wagon with your guy and hate the rest crap. You think they draft one in rd 1?

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 3, 2016 7:59 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

For hot air this love affair with bradford came about because the other guy took vicks job– there is no denying it- his anger, vitriol and nonsense is because foles stole hot airs lover boy from him– you are right stevo- VV wanted to work with the best guy in the draft– but of course lovers scorn like foolbreeze can’t get over it–
i don’t think they draft one in rd. 1– i think they have made it clear with the signings, including sideways that they are trying to catch lightning in a bottle and make a run with these guys plus a good draft and FA signing or two– and i agree with that direction 100%… the difference between 6-10 and 10-6 in the nfl is miniscule- and the difference between a first round loss and getting to the SB is also very tiny— make a run

Stevo
Stevo
March 3, 2016 8:32 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Whatever. Seriously you guys cant get over yourselves. He said this because this…. maybe just maybe he happens to think Bradford will do better than ____insert random backup here______.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 4, 2016 11:49 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

I do feel Paxton Lynch should be drafted by the Eagles, either at #13, or by trading down a little bit.

But, I have been very high on Jacoby Brisset, who I also feel should be drafted by the Eagles as well, but I also know he will be drafted later in the draft, He is my guy, and I am sticking with that.

Eagle, I thought you were high on Jared Goff???

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 5, 2016 2:13 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

Stevo.. Vinnie is easy to read…the whole basis of his great dislike of Bradford is that we got rid Foles to get him. Vinnie confessed! He made it clear that he would accept Foles back with open arms…to give Foles one more chance to prove that he could be the Super Bowl QB.
Vinnie wanted anyone but Bradford, and he contended that we could get a number of free agents and other players for cheaper and still get the same production…so in making that point, Vinnie outlined who he would prefer over Bradford…he said directly:

“Daniels, Fitzpatrick, Hoyer….hell even Foles….who cares? Each and every one can throw 19 and win 7 games.”

The “hell even Foles” wasn’t thrown in accidentally…it is a reflection of who he preferred over Bradford and even if we give him the benefit of the doubt…that he would prefer these players as a ‘stop gap’ to a new rookie QB…do you honestly believe that Vinnie would have opposed getting Foles back with the Eagles. The “hell even Foles” was setting up his defense of reacquiring his mancrush…Nick Foles!

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 5, 2016 2:28 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

EHL…stop it…stop it…you know well that Wentz is not going to be available to the Eagles at 13!! Neither will Goff…the guy that will be available is Lynch and reports out of the Combine say he didn’t interview that well and didn’t do well on the whiteboard…this is a real red flag for a guy who never played under center on the college level.
Lynch is a bad gamble…if we take a QB this year it will be in the 4th or 5th round…it would be foolish to reach for this kid at 13

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 5, 2016 8:34 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

Cliff, Goff is my #1, there is just no chance of him sliding in my opinion, if all 3 QB’s were available I take Goff. I am looking at it from a realistic availability standpoint. I think Wentz has a better chance of sliding than Goff once the draft starts. Therefore I would take him as my franchise QB. Make no mistake if Goff, Lynch and Wentz is there at 13…Jared Goff is my guy!!!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 5, 2016 9:04 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

Stop it EHL, Stop it!!! LOL…stop it…stopppppp!!!
I don’t know if Wentz will not be there, Manziel at one point was mocked as a #1 overall QB, Teddy Bridgewater was supposed to go higher than he did in all mocks. They both slid…hell, Aaron Rodgers was considered a consensus top 5 pick and he slid to 26. You do not know!
Sam is here for at least a year on a prove it to me deal, during that time a QB is going to be drafted by the Eagles as an understudy developmental project. Looking at all of the other QB’s in this years draft, If Wentz and Goff are off the board then I take the next best QB, Lynch as my developmental prospect while Bradford is the QB. The only QB I like in 2017 is D Watson and the Eagles will not have a shot at him so they have to take the QB they have the best chance with and the best shot at in the 2016 draft. (No O lineman they take in this year’s draft is not going to be a game changing player in terms of wins and losses so they can grab them in the 3rd, besides Stanley and Tunsil will be gone by 13). The reason I do this is because next year is not a year I see the Eagles going to the playoffs, if they do great, but I do not see it so that is why I would be fine taking a step backwards to move two steps ahead. I can’t get excited about what I see as a 7-9, 8-8 season…but I hope that the right moves for the future will be made in the draft…Go Eagles

Oh, and that post was not so bad in terms of getting your point across in a pithy fashion
Stop it EHL…stop it…lmao

mhenski
mhenski
March 3, 2016 8:51 pm

why do u guys want John brown ? Our qb only throws over 10 yards 17% of the time. Seems like a waste to me.

Jordan Matthews, the Nigerian nightmare and ertz are the playmakers. It’s up to bradturd to get them to shine.

Stevo
Stevo
March 3, 2016 9:07 pm
Reply to  mhenski

“When you start to run the football well, you need to now take people from deep and bring them up closer to the line of scrimmage,” said Kelly. “When that happens, now you have an opportunity to throw the ball over the top. We haven’t had the opportunity to throw the ball over the top because we haven’t established a run game and blocked well against a 4‑2 box. Basically that is what we are seeing right now: two linebackers and four defensive linemen.”

Added Bradford: “Last week , once we couldn’t get the run game going, we saw a lot more two high.”

We could not run the ball last year. Our playcalling was so crystal clear to all that they knew what we were running. No run game equals no deep ball. My guess is that you will blame Bradford for the running game as well. To me…. Kelly is to blame because he didnt mix the playcalls up. I may be wrong…. but thats my guess. But please… dont let me get in the way of your complaining.

As has been said before…. we have had NO DEEP THREAT after Jackson was sent away. As I and many said from day 1….. getting rid of Jackson’s speed is a problem.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 3, 2016 11:50 pm

Chuck it Deep! …Bradford refuses to go deep…”Our qb only throws over 10 yards 17% of the time.”

The anti-Sam bashing makes the same mind-numbing arguments over and over again…locked and stuck on pure stupidity. When you try to shake them out of the rut and explain some simple football concepts to them…their brain freezes rendering them incapable of any objective thought.
They are so stuck in their anti-Sam bias. Ironically, if the Quarterback is simply so ineffective in throwing the ball down the field for more than ten yards…that automatically assumes that receivers are running open down the field for big plays but Sam was just missing them!
When you argue that the Quarterback is not throwing the ball deep enough that serves as a defense for the receivers. Yet not a single Sam Basher has ever uttered a single syllable in defense of Riley Cooper. No one batted an eye when our starting wideout was cut. I heard no one say…’well if only Sam Bradford chucked it deep…Riley Cooper would have been an really good receiver…Sam just didn’t throw him the ball. Cooper was open so much.
If he couldn’t chuck it deep to Cooper…he could have chucked it deep to Huff….another burner who was consistently wide open!
Pathetic and weak…smh!!

Stevo
Stevo
March 4, 2016 12:51 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

That’s a great point and I had not really thought of it Kool. Our starting WR was cut, not because of his contract or former overblown comments, but because he wasn’t very good.

zilents44
zilents44
March 4, 2016 5:53 am
Reply to  Stevo

Mhenski are you bashing just for the sake of it……I truly believe John Brown would help with his speed…..just to say Bradford doesn’t throw deep enough, so why go after j Brown is just jumping on the I hate Bradford. Why keep repeating the same comments, you get on kool about saying the same stuff over and over again and yet u do the same……anyway its done so why not go all in and get our QB a real deep threat, a couple guards and see what he can do

mhenski
mhenski
March 4, 2016 8:15 am

Lol

John brown is a nice player nice deep threat but Sam doesn’t throw deep!

He only throws over 10 yards (17% of the time ) throwing 11 _20 yards isn’t deep either, his percentages over 20 yards are even worse. He throws behind the line of scrimmage half the time and under 10 yards the rest so why would you pay someone to run go routes?

Ertz Nelson agholor and Matthews all have speed…

Sam doesn’t throw deep he never has in his 6 years so why waste the money spend it on oline and d. And find an amazing route runner with quickness like the Landrys and amendolAs.

mhenski
mhenski
March 4, 2016 8:17 am

Buying Sam a deep threat is like buying a vegan a steak.

mhenski
mhenski
March 4, 2016 8:40 am

Bradford needs to hit ertz early and often this year.

They need to work out all spring and summer to build some chemistry. They need to build on how they finished.

You guys think me saying he refuses to throw the ball over 10 yards is a knock and it is but not in the context of what I wrote. Point is u don’t get a deep threat wr for a qb that is an inside out thrower. You need to dial up plays for ertz and get a shifty slot man.

Sam is not an outside in thrower

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
March 4, 2016 9:22 am
Reply to  mhenski

Yep. On board with this 100%. He is the best mismatch that they have. Need to exploit it.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
March 4, 2016 9:45 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

Cue GmCliff to tell us how overrated Ertz is in 3, 2, 1…

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 4, 2016 9:57 am
Reply to  mhenski

There were two huge revelations that came out at the end of Chips tenure:1. HE was the problem with the culture– i believe you need a good culture to win– absolutely believe it, but when the top dog is the one with the negativity it becomes impossible and 2. the fact that he would not allow audibles is evident by the number of negative plays, the fact that they never switched out– lots of teams have predictable plays, that is nothing new but the fact that they never switched out is mind boggling–
so all that said– i’m going to support pederson and bradford as i said with chip .. i have no other choice- go birds.

Stevo
Stevo
March 4, 2016 12:39 pm

A deep threat is absolutely needed on this team, no doubt. I thought Huff could have been that guy but we have never seen it. I dont want to revisit the Jackson thing but to say that though hi did indeed disappear for long stretches, he opened up the field for everyone else. We need a deep threat on the outside with blazing speed to keep D’s honest. Last year the run game never got going so teams would just keep 2 safeties deep to keep WR’s underneath them. If a speedy WR pulls them deeper, everything changes. Sam can and will go deep if it’s there. But with guys like Cooper dropping 15 yard gimmies all day… well….

paulman
paulman
March 5, 2016 7:17 am

The 2 QB’s I like in this Draft that can be Drafted in the 4th/5th Round
Are Jeff Driskel of LouisianaTech & Brad Doherty of Western Kentucky.
Both have Size,NFL Arms & Have Mobility and can be groomed as a Future Back-up’s… I have not been very High or Excited about this QB Class and since th Eagles locked up Sam Bradford for the next 2 Seasons, they can Draft and Groom a Back-Up Caliber type of QB in the middle Rounds
Eagles must get some Contributors with their First 3-4 Draft Selections
QB Position as well as WR & TE Positions are provably the weakest in this Draft Class..

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 5, 2016 8:02 am
Reply to  paulman

Don’t like Driskel he was terrible at Florida. I Hinkie he doesn’t get drafted or maybe round seven. O like Kevin Hogan out of Stanford in the fourth.

paulman
paulman
March 5, 2016 8:49 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Driskel was bad at Florida as every QB was during during the Walt Muschamp Tenure as HC but played very well the last 2 Years after transferring to La Tech
I think with good Coaching, he can be a quality Backup QB and a spot starter in the NFL which is about all you can expect from this Draft Class

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 5, 2016 9:43 am
Reply to  paulman

I certainly never SAW him play at Louisiana tech… Numbers good, inferior opponents… But I’m not going to dig my heels in about a guy that will go in round 6 or 7 or may even go undrafted

paulman
paulman
March 5, 2016 9:59 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Who is asking you to dig in your heels about about a Back-Up QB which is all this QB Draft Class really offers in my opinion?.. Wenz/Goff have upside and a chance and maybe even Lynch in 2-3 Years time..
The Eagles need to add a developmental QB from this Draft Class or even after the Draft ..
Louisiana Tech Plays in Conference USA vs some pretty quality Football Programs like Southern Miss, Marshall, Western Ky, Middle Tennessee and are typically a Bowl Eligible Team.. They have good Athletes, Good Coaching and an exciting Team to watch… Not a bad Football Program at all…

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 5, 2016 10:18 am
Reply to  paulman

You are digging your heels in trying to justify your guy…go for it!
I know conference USA fairly well as my daughter attends Old Dominion and I go to a couple games per year. My best friend is a marshal alum so I watch some of their games.
The USA player I like for the eagles is from Marshall, Devon Johnson…rock head I believe is his knickname– tough runner, may be converted to FB…late round 6-7

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 5, 2016 7:17 pm
Reply to  paulman

paulman…its what I’ve been saying all along…this draft class is extremely weak for Quarterbacks……Goff and Wentz are the best of the prospects and they have huge question marks…what really tough defense has Wentz played against? Goff like many other QB’s have not played a lot of snaps under center. Plus he has small hands that led to a career of fumbles…
There are no QB’s worth being picked at 13 for the Eagles…I hope that 4 of the QB’s are picked in the top ten and push some other talent down to the Eagles at 13…along with another option for the Birds is to trade down and get a second round pick back

paulman
paulman
March 5, 2016 7:37 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

I agree KB,
I hope the Cowboys/49ers will reach for some of these QB’s too which will place more Talent at #13 for the Eagles, but I don’t see it happening…
I just did a 1st Round Mock on another thread in which I have the Eagles Trading back since CB Alexander & Hargreaves are already off the Board as both the Top OT’s (Tunsil/Stanley) are as well and the Fact that Howie is going to want to get that 2nd Round Draft Pick someway, somehow…
I think the Texans or possibly the Jets are the best options for Teams wanting to get to #13 and ahead of the Rams at #15 who likely would take Goff If he’s still on the board but would settle for Lynch if need be…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 5, 2016 9:12 am

The O linemen I want at pick 13 (Wentz and Tunsil) will be off the board, if the Eagles do not go in the QB direction at 13, I want Laquan Treadwell as he will be the best player and WR on the board, Dez Bryant type skills minus the attitude. I would not take Decker, Spriggs or Conklin at 13. If the Eagles are hell bent on taking an o linemen at that point they better trade back.

paulman
paulman
March 5, 2016 10:06 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

You mean both OL L Tunsil & R Stanley ? Yes they will be gone by #13 which you are correct about..
OT’s Conklin, Decker, Spriggs, Imeldi are Projected as late 1st/Early 2nd Round Picks ( > 20th Selection + )
Eagles should take best Player Available (CB’s , DE’s or DT) if they remain at
#13..
If they are hell bent on getting an OT, then they should trade back into the later 1st Round with Jets (#20) , Texans (#22) but it takes two to tango

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 5, 2016 10:12 am
Reply to  paulman

yes pman, thank you, I meant Stanley and Tunsil.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 6, 2016 1:09 am
Reply to  paulman

if they stay at 13 I agree take the best available talent and dont reach for an offensive lineman, Quarterback….I think their best move will be to trade back and pick up a second rounder

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 5, 2016 10:21 am

Get a Burner so Bradford will throw deep.

Like a fish needs a bicycle.

“The problem lies with Bradford’s biggest weakness as a professional passer: the absence of his deep ball. Under Bradford’s leadership, the Rams have been a dink-and-dunk offense, throwing an endless stream of passes underneath while failing to take the top off of opposing defenses. It’s clear to see in the numbers and the tape that the Rams don’t get downfield enough, and that it limits Bradford’s value as a passer. What’s more difficult, instead, is figuring out why Bradford can’t hit that big play.”

“Bradford simply doesn’t throw deep. This chart reflects the numbers, which note that just 9.5 percent of his pass attempts last year traveled 20 yards or more in the air; of the 39 quarterbacks who threw at least 200 passes last season, 33 threw deep more frequently than Bradford. And when Bradford did throw deep, he was terrible; his 38.9 QBR on deep passes was 33rd in the league.1

That’s not exactly a one-year fluke with Bradford, either. Just 9.9 percent of his professional passes have gone 20 yards or more in the air since he arrived in the league in 2010. Among regular starters over that time frame, only Alex Smith, Matt Schaub, and Matt Ryan (at a league-low 8.0 percent) have been less likely to air it out. During his career, per ESPN Stats & Information, the average Bradford pass has traveled just 7.5 yards in the air. The only regular passer in that time making shorter throws is Alex Smith.”

“Bradford gets less out of each throw he makes than just about anybody in football; the only quarterback with 1,000 pass attempts with a worse yards-per-attempt index over the past four years is Christian Ponder. Only six players have been worse in that category since 1990, and the best player of the bunch is probably Kyle Boller. Bradford has averaged just 6.3 yards per attempt over his four-year career; the difference between his figure and the league average over that time frame during a typical full season (of 550 passes) is roughly about 522.5 yards, or 15 percent of Bradford’s output.”

Written after the 2013 season. LOL

This year he upped his “deep” passes from 9.5 to 10.

But its the bad talent around him!!!!!!!!!!

“It’s harder to make the case that the Rams haven’t done enough to surround Bradford with talent. Since drafting Bradford with the first pick of the 2010 draft, the Rams have invested heavily in weapons for him at wide receiver. In fact, using the Chase Stuart Draft Value Chart, the Rams have spent more draft capital on wide receivers than anybody else in football. St. Louis has spent a first-rounder (Tavon Austin), a second-rounder (Brian Quick, using the first pick of the second round), two third-rounders (Austin Pettis, Stedman Bailey), and three fourth-rounders (Greg Salas, Mardy Gilyard, Chris Givens) on wideouts over the past four years. And that doesn’t even include the fifth-round pick they traded for Brandon Lloyd in 2011 or their heavy investments at tight end, where they spent a second-round pick on Lance Kendricks before giving downfield target Jared Cook a massive deal in free agency. Bradford’s best receiver, after all of that, was undrafted free agent Danny Amendola. Not a single one of those receivers — who fit all kinds of makes and models — have lived up to their draft expectations. St. Louis is instead giving serious consideration to the idea of starting Titans castoff Kenny Britt at wideout this season. If three coaches and nearly a dozen receivers aren’t making things better in St. Louis, at what point is it the quarterback’s fault?”

Again written after 2013.

“Teams aren’t afraid of Bradford beating them downfield, so they’re very comfortable clogging up those intermediate routes with defenders. Opposing defenses also aren’t blitzing the Eagles very frequently, leaving more men in coverage to break up (and possibly pick off) Bradford’s passes. Bradford’s been blitzed on just 15.4 percent of his dropbacks, the lowest rate in football.”

It must be the system and coaches!!!

Rams fans complained after the article that it somehow wasn’t Bradford’s fault — that, through all the offensive coordinators and draft picks and free-agent dollars spent on receivers and linemen, it was everybody else and not their quarterback. But last year, we got a full season of the Rams offense without Bradford. And what do you know? They suddenly somehow found a way to throw downfield! The combination of Austin Davis and Shaun Hill, hardly superstar quarterbacks, threw passes 20 yards or more on 13.4 percent of their passes, the eighth-highest rate in the league. Their QBR on those passes was 93.6, which was 12th among NFL teams. Either Kenny Britt is the greatest downfield weapon the league has ever seen, or Bradford is not a good downfield passer. You pick.”

Written in 2015

It doesn’t matter when it was written…2013, 2015, or soon in 2016.

You are going to read the same thing over and over and over again.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 5, 2016 6:07 pm

What a bunch of pure drivel!

What pure bullshit.

Vinniedafoolass just cant accept reality…written by who Vinniedafool…
the big problem with Bradford is that he is just afraid to “chuck it deep”
Chicks and Vinnie love the long ball…go deep..says Vinniedafool…

Now the receivers you have don’t make a difference according to Vinniedafool. Last year, Huff, Agholor, and Riley Cooper were running free deep…Vinnie quotes some guy, while not telling us who, and says look at Bradford with the Rams and all of the “resources” the Rams spent in getting Bradford receivers:

“the Rams have spent more draft capital on wide receivers than anybody else in football. St. Louis has spent a first-rounder (Tavon Austin), a second-rounder (Brian Quick, using the first pick of the second round), two third-rounders (Austin Pettis, Stedman Bailey), and three fourth-rounders (Greg Salas, Mardy Gilyard, Chris Givens) on wideouts over the past four years”

So lets recount some of these great receivers that were simply denied access to greatness because Sam Bradford just wont chuck it deep:

Tavon Austin
Brian Quick
Greg Salas
Mardy Gilyard
Stedman Bailey
Chris Givens
Brandon Lloyd
Riley Cooper
Josh Huff
Nelson Agholor
Kenny Britt

Look at these great receivers Sam Bradford has been surrounded with…I’m mean we looked at the tape and saw these receivers running free and open but Bradford just would not chuck it deep. Teams are now lined up to grab Riley Cooper up to take advantage of his big play, down the field abilities that Bradford refused to take advantage of…

Look at that list-Brian Quick…he must be great..well because he shares the same last name with our own Mike Quick…he must be a great down the field threat!! LOL

Its Sam Bradford’s fault that these guys are not Pro Bowl receivers because he just cant chuck it deep!!! So with no Sam Bradford, the Rams transformed into an explosive offensive with deep passes all over with Austin Davis and Shaun Hill…they chucked it deep more often and that helped their offense so much…then they got that chuck it deep specialist-Nick Foles who turned the Rams offense back into the greatest show on turf…with his aerial brilliance and chuck it deep abilities…Foles has made them forget all about Sam Bradford!!

LMAO…fool ass Vinnie

Give it up…the arguments are lame, your jaded ‘stats’ arguments never add up and always neglect key points.

In this case maybe all of those receivers the Rams drafted and obtained sucked, maybe the Eagles outside receivers just don’t have enough speed to get deep…maybe it’s simple beyond the jaded stats arguments…maybe the receivers Sam Bradford has played with are not true deep threat receivers.
Has Bradford played with any receiver that is near DJax or Maclin…

The answer is simple-NO
You chuck it deep to guys that are open deep Fool…its that simple

Fool ass!!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 5, 2016 8:38 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

You are possible right. You say it yourself.

Maybe.

Maybe every single Wr. Maybe every single OL. Maybe every single coach.

Maybe.

Maybe every single one of about 50 players and coaches around Sam were each and every one terrible.

Maybe every single one of them were incompetent.

Maybe. Maybe 50 people are shit and there is one shining star in the middle of them who just can;t realize his potential because for 6 years everyone around him has been pathetic.

As you say…..maybe.

OR

Maybe we should look at the guy in the middle.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 5, 2016 11:52 pm

Well the Coach who we all have agreed must be given a chance has made it clear what he thinks…

Coach Pederson made it clear yet again:

“Again, as I evaluated the tape from last year and got together with Frank [Reich] and Coach [John] DeFilippo and getting everyone’s opinion, we felt strongly about having Sam back. We’re excited that he’s here and locked in for next year.”

The reality is Sam Bradford is no longer playing with Rams…he hasn’t played there for close to three seasons…if we take the ‘maybe’ in your direction…these guys would have prospered under Nick ‘Chuck it Deep’ Foles …their offense would have exploded and become a real threat with the absence of Sam Bradford….

Tavon Austin
Brian Quick
Greg Salas
Mardy Gilyard
Stedman Bailey
Chris Givens
Brandon Lloyd
Kenny Britt

Maybe I’m missing something…which of these elite receivers have went to the Pro Bowl or put up huge numbers since Bradford is now gone??

I think I’ll lean the ‘maybe’ in the direction of Coach Pederson who has played QB and his staff who made it clear in no uncertain terms that they wanted Sam Bradford:

“I think that having played the position, understanding the position, having coached the position, it makes a big impact with the people you talk to in the organization,” Pederson said. “They want your opinion, they want you to voice your opinion. And with this situation here, I think it was key that they understood where I was coming from in order to get Sam signed.”

But of course, according to you…we should reject what the Coach thinks…

Fall back Vinnie…time to give it up…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 6, 2016 5:50 pm

What are the odds:

Bradford is an absolute stud. 12-4 Top 5 4500 yrds 35+ tds….4%
Bradford is very, very good. 11-5 Top 10 400yrds 28-30 tds….5%
Bradford good. 3800 yrds 10-6 24-28 tds….20%
Bradford is Blech 3500 yrds 7-9/9-7 19-23 tds…..40%
Bradford is an absolute bust…6-10 (or worse) 19 tds or major injury 31%

I mean seriously….that has to be the predictions right? His history tells us it is more than likely (and I have it at 71% he’ll come in less than 9 wins and around 20 or less tds as he has never done either in his career before)

So the Eagles still have to draft a QB in the first, because the odds say he’s burnt toast after this year, and if the Birds don;t have someone in the wings, it deja-vue all over again next year.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 7, 2016 1:31 am

Give it up Vinnie…its over

The Eagles have rejected your suicide plan for the team and have elected to make the smart moves…

They have resigned a number of their own players, including the QB

They will add some pieces in free agency

They will NOT make a desperate reach in the first round for some unproven, low talent level QB.

Its a wrap Vinnie…its over

Sam Bradford is the QB of the team and your stats don’t mean squat!

Move on…its over

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 7, 2016 9:03 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

The only thing that’s over is the Eagles’ 2016/2017 season with Sammy Sevens at the helm.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 7, 2016 12:09 pm

Here’s more fun that’ll cause Koolidiot to lose his shit once again and begin ranting and raving about Fool Asses and Nick Foles.

In his scintillating 6 year career, Sammy B has managed to rack up a very impressive 25 wins. 18 less than the incomparable Jay Cutler.

So right away we’re in good stead. But wait….there’s more….

Who exactly did Sammy Waterford rack up those wins against???

Well, first of all, before he came to the Eagles 22% of his wins came against the Arizona Cardinals. How awesome right?

As for his career total….wait for it because you are going to be wowed….SB’s 25 career wins have come against a group of teams with an incredible combined record of 146W to 220L.

Did you know that Sammy Sevens has a remarkable 7 wins against teams that are over .500?? How about that eh??

7 wins in 6 years against teams that were above .500.

7. Can you get better than that?!?!?

I mean how can the fanbase not get excited about that right?

But wait….there’s more…..

In 3 of those 7 wins against +.500 teams, would you be surprised to learn Sam B did absolutely nothing? I bet you wouldn’t. Those games (including NE last year) featured a plethora of fumble, special team, and wide wr option pass tds for those teams to squeak out those wins. In those 3 games Sam B threw Zero tds and one int.

I know, I know…impressive right? Fanbase must be giddy with excitement about a QB that has done nothing against anyone approaching .500 ever.

7 wins in 6 years against +500 competition, and in three he did nothing.

I bet you want to see the entire list of Sammy 7s illustrious wins right? Ok

2010
Washington 6-10
Seattle 7-9
San Diego 9-7 (here is the first!)
Carolina 2-14
Denver 4-12
Arizona 5-11
Sf 6-10

2011
Cleveland 4-12

2012
Washington 10-6 (number 2)
Seattle 11-5 (number 3…SB 16 of 30 for 221 no TD one int – wr option thrown td)
Arizona 5-11
Arizona 5-11
SF 11-4 (number 4 – only td wasa fumble return)
Buff 6-10
TB 7-9

2013
Ariz 10-6 (number 5 – seems to have Arizona’s number)
Jax 4-12
Houston 2-14

2015
Jets 10-6 (number 6 – a before London game)
New Orl 7-9
NYG 6-10
Dallas 4-12
NE 12-4 (number 7 3 tds from D and spec teams – SB did nothing)
Buffalo 8-8

Fantastic right? Total wins 146. Total losses 220.

Sammy Sideways, piling it up against the dregs. Against good teams…..well….not so much. How exciting.

mhenski
mhenski
March 7, 2016 12:17 pm

sounds like we got a shot!

WINLESS FOR WATSON

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 7, 2016 1:33 pm

Poor Vinnie

Your pathetic…

Dragging up every meaningless, irrelevant stat you can find…obsessed, delusional, and pouting like a spoiled brat who stomps off in a tantrum when he can’t have his way!

Oh the pain…LMAO…Vinnie it was so close for you…you thought the Eagles Management saw it your way…the time for the franchise tag had passed…you were elated remember:

vinnietheevictor
March 1, 2016 – 4:36 pm
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“Its 4:30
Do you know where your franchise tag is?
Crickets. No deal.
Sam will begin negotiating with other teams in 6.5 days. (I’m sure he’s already had “nudge nudge wink wink” negotiations already)
He hasn’t signed the Eagles “upped” offer (if there ever was one) and will test the market and there’s no reason why he would accept an Eagles Deal now before March 7th. What would be the point.
He must feel great too. The Eagles want him back so much, they reduced the offer they made to him last year by 30%.
“We love you Sam! You were great over your last 7 games! He’s our new offer….We know you will agree that paying you 14 mill, the lowest of any veteran QB not named Dalton or Fitzpatrick is fair don’t you think? We love you so much, we’re offering you an embarassingly low starter offer! You will be the 20th paid QB in the NFL! Only guys on rookie deals and backups will get less! See how much we think of you Sammy Baby! How could you not sogn. Forget testing the market in 6 days buddy…oh, and don’t forget….this fanbase LOVES you! They are extremely excited of the prospect of you leading the Birds next year. They’re The enthusiasm is ozzing from their pores. Wait till you hear the ovation you get next year! And don’t worry, they will be very very forgiving when toss an early pick and spend the rest of the game throwing 2 yrd curls on 3rd and 8.”
He’s testing the market now.”

The pain…the pain…when they pulled the rug right from under you Vinnie to announce that they signed Bradford with a $36 million dollar contract-$26 million guaranteed!!

They took all of your stats, all of your ‘chuck it deep’ contentions, all of your whining and bitching…and stuck it right up the old wazoo for ya, Vinnie…and left you to whine and bitch about it while the rest of us move on to other aspects of free agency and the draft…

Your finished Vinnie…

Go Eagles!!

rootdown
rootdown
March 7, 2016 1:54 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

koolbreeze is also posting as jakedog, this is so strange.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 7, 2016 1:55 pm

Why do you keep lying? Is it that you have such a lack of confidence in your own arguements that you have to make shit up??

Its not 26, its 22 and everyone int the world knows it. Youŕe lying about it does not change the fact. Its a one year deal, not a 2 year deal. Everyone in the world knows it and youŕe lying about it does not change the fact.

Wyy do you keep making shit up? They signed Sammy sevens to a one year bridge deal….so they have no confidence in the clown. If they did they wouldn´t have offered this embarasment of a deal for a ẗalent”like your hero.

Of course you avoided my earlier question:

What is the chance Sammy lights it up Kooltwit. I have it around 10%. I say thereś a 70% chance heĺl completely stink or get hurt. Whatś your number?

How confident are you in your o whatever it takes”hero?

Remember now…for him to be great he will have to completely change just about every aspect of his history.

Always throws short – not this year!
Always folds against tough competition – not this year!
Always slumps his shoulders – not this year!
Always pads his stats when the game is over – not this year!
Never made the playoffs – not this year!

And of course….thereś the main stat you keep hiding from…that is that over 80% of QBs in their first playoff game lose….

Not this year!!!

SO Kooltwit…how confident are you? Whatś the chance heś great? 10% 20? 75?

How confident are you in the greatness.

Because the Eagles aren´t very confident, otherwise they´d have signed him to a real QB contract instead of this joke that they can dump the day after week 17.

I think thereś a 70% chance that will happen. I love to hear your overly optimistic prediction so I can laugh at it all year.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 7, 2016 3:46 pm

Vinnie…your so desperate, so bewildered and so out of touch.

I am beginning to feel sorrow and pity for you,Vinnie. .I cant even muster up the venom to call you “Vinniedafoolass”…To do so fills me with the feeling of kicking a dead fish that has already been gutted…what’s the point??

You are always coming up short and lame…cant win for losing…

You are always short money Vinnie…a dollar short, a day late…just when you think you got something…poof!! Down goes Vinnie!!! smh:

“The contract is worth $36 million, according to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport, per a source who has seen the deal. Bradford will receive $22 million guaranteed at signing, which balloons to $26 million when injury guarantees are added. The deal includes an $11 million signing bonus and he will make a $7 million base salary in 2016 with $4 million guaranteed in 2017.” NFL.com

PHILADELPHIA — The Philadelphia Eagles agreed to a two-year contract with quarterback Sam Bradford, keeping Bradford off the free-agent market without using the franchise tag.

“The deal is worth $36 million, with $26 million of that guaranteed, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.”

“Instead they get $36 million for two years, that’s $18 million a year, with $26 million guaranteed.” Mark Eckel, NJ.com

I know reality hurts bad Vinnie…real bad. Just recognize that its over for you. Your done…so embarrassed…so humiliated:

vinnietheevictor
March 1, 2016 – 4:36 pm
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“Its 4:30
Do you know where your franchise tag is?
Crickets. No deal.”

Just at the precise moment when you thought it was going your way…they just snatched it away from you…leaving you now with babbling ignorantly and incoherently about “percentages and stats”…

Fall back Vinnie…relax…its free agency and the draft is coming soon…but dont worry about any of that…let the true football fans of the Eagles handle that…you should concentrate on Hockey, get some other hobby…take your mind off of the humiliation that has overwhelmed you…fade into obscurity of ignorance with your stats, percentages, and other stuff you are sputtering and working yourself up about…

Fall back Vinnie…just fall back!