Think about the fact that nobody knew anything about North Dakota State quarterback prospect Carson Wentz when the college football season ended. Now you have reports saying that he’s likely to be the number one pick in the draft. Of course bringing it closer to home, Howie Roseman, Doug Pederson and the Eagles are interested in moving up to the top of the draft to grab him with the first pick.
He stood out at the Senior Bowl, but things started exploding for him once he started talking to owners, NFL head coaches and player personnel people. I was in Indianapolis for the NFL Scouting Combine and I saw his stock continue to rise and that I heard that buzz amongst scouts and coaches start to get louder and louder.
The NFL Network’s Mike Mayock and other scouts who were at his Pro Day says he had a A-plus there by completing nearly every throw and making it look easy.
I’ve heard that’s he’s a very impressive young man. Carson is 23-years old and he just finished his fifth years in college. He was a late bloomer who didn’t start playing quarterback until his senior year in high school. He was 5’8″ as a freshman in high school, but grew to 6’5″ by his first couple of years in college.
Yesterday, NFL Network analyst Daniel Jeremiah talked about how Wentz has been outstanding at selling himself to the NFL. They say he has the type of charisma that causes him to standout and makes it easy to picture him as a great leader of a NFL football team. He is definitely the Alpha Male. You could see that in the picture while dining with Jeffrey Lurie, Roseman and Pederson.
Intelligence is something Wentz has in abundance, as well as maturity. Right now they say he can run a NFL offense from the line of scrimmage with the multi-play calls, blitz pick-ups, sight adjustments and coverage detections. He had the amazing 40 score on the Wonderlic test.
The guy has also been a tremendous winner during his college career. North Dakota State has won five straight national championships. He led them to their last two titles. Yes it wasn’t Division 1 football, but Wentz has sold himself so well to the NFL people, nobody talks about him not playing against the top talent in college football anymore.
He played in a NFL-style offense in college, so he already has tremendous knowledge of NFL offenses and he impressed former NFL head coach Jon Gruden so much with his football intelligence that the coach said he was more prepared to play in the NFL than Jameis Winston or Marcus Mariota.
From what we hear, Eagles head coach Pederson has been totally sold on Wentz. Think about he did all of this in three-months.
Yes…a good sales job…
I’m not buying and the Eagles would be stupid to buy into a ‘sales job’
Look the kid may be the next greatest QB…”The Guy”
But he might be a bust and a total flop!
For example, Kevin Kolb was great in shorts, could make all the throws, was smart and had great ‘footwork’…
All of that went straight out the window when one of those big mean NFL linemen smacked him in the mouth…and then all of his ‘intelligence’ went out the window and he became a straight bitch who folded under pressure.
Wentz has not been close to the speed of the NFL game, he needs time to develop, time to grow…and then we need to see more than the sales job…can he stare down the barrel of a nasty, mean NFL player coming at him with bad intentions…
He hasn’t seen anything close to that in his college career
Change Kevin Kolb to Sam Bradford and you’ve got a great post.
Sorry Vinnie…
Sam Bradford is the starting QB for the Eagles that Coach Pederson calls a ‘top-notch’ QB…he proved coming back last year that he can hang in the pocket take a hit and deliver the ball…he did it plenty of times.
Tell you what, instead of Kevin Kolb I’ll throw Nick Foles in there…you remember how he used to get all flustered and nervous in the pocket and throw the ball up for grabs off his back foot. …
He’s about to be cut from the Rams..so him and Kevin Kolb are far better examples of what I’m talking about…
He reminds many Scouts of Andrew Luck..
He has Size,Athleticism, an NFL Arm to make all the Throws and a very High Football IQ, along with Natural Leadership Skills & a Toughness, swagger about him…
Whether any of this will Translate to the NFL Field is yet to be determined but this Kid is way more advanced that Brian Bortles was coming out in the Draft and just behind Andrew Luck in his Play… Plus this Guys a Winner as North Dakota State has Won 5 NCAA FCS Championships in a Row which are in played in a Playoff Format and not Bowl Games, so in order to Win a FCS Division Championship, you have to Win 3-4 Playoff Games against Quality Teams..
There is a Risk no doubt, but if there is 1 Play worth taking the Risk in this 2016 Draft to become a potential Franchise QB, then its Carson Wentz
With the Eagles at #8, with the unhappy Fletcher Cox who wants a $100 Million Deal, maybe its the best time for the Eagles to package some of their Assets and make a Move for a Potential Franchise QB while they are as close to #1 than in likely Future Drafts
There are no sure fire can’t miss prospects, any player can turn out to be a bust..like Bradford. Jadeveon Clowney is on his way to becoming a bust. I have been talking about Jalen Ramsey since early 2014, as much as I like him, he may be a bust ( doubt it, but it’s possible). No player is guaranteed, regardless of the competition they have played against or the conference they played in. Unlike Manziel… If you have it, you have it! Wentz has all the intangibles and tangibles, with the right coaching and time to acclimate himself, I believe he will be a top QB. Seems coach Pederson may feel the same way too.
Funny, EHL…you give a bunch of credence to what Coach Pederson is “rumored” to have said…as opposed to what he all know that he has actually stated:
“Sam Bradford is a top-notch Quarterback”
The Eagles have paid him like a top-notch QB as well.
Kool, Pederson believes Bradford is a top notch QB…that’s what is funny!…Where is the credence in that…Bradford is a bust! I give Pederson a pass this year as a rookie. Bradford is just good enough for the Eagles to be competitive, which is why Pederson wanted Bradford back, so his first year as a rookie coach would be credible…to some degree..if anything it buys him time.
But he’s the Quarterback expert…a former QB…he’s the guy whose judgement the Eagles are relying upon…not to mention that his Offensive Coordinator is an ex-QB as well…
They all said please…please sign Sam Bradford!
Money talks and bullshit walks
Money talks..bullshit walks…lol..who are you..Nino Brown…Ok Mr. New Jack City with that tired ass line. The money is 1 year guaranteed 22 million. It’s the years Kool, it’s the years as it relates to Sam Bradford. Once again, a franchise QB gets the money and years. Don’t become excusebreeze talking about injuries as it relates to Bradford’s contract..2015 was the year to prove he can stay relatively healthy..and he accomplished that by only missing two games. Everyone knows that if you make it through the following season coming off of an ACL, your chances of staying healthy as it relates to the repaired knee increases tremendously…so your stay free of injury argument does not hold water here.
And since when did the coach who underwhelmed you become a QB expert in your eyes..what is his track record for being a QB expert…because he played? Since he asked Sam to stick around for a year.. huh? A QB expert should want to lock his guy up long term no questions asked, he knows who Bradford is, what his skill is etc. Yes…perhaps Pederson is a QB expert…keeping him for one year was a stroke of genius…Bradford can be the stop gap while the rookie, whether he be drafted in round 1,3, or 4 be groomed to take over.
Titans Reportedly Have Offer for Top Pick
Monday, April 11
Peter King of MMQB reported the Titans have a “definite, solid offer for the pick” adding that “if it’s sweetened” the Titans could potentially part with the pick and “go down a few spots.”
King reported that the “common thought” is that the team that made the offer is the Philadelphia Eagles.
Let’s all hope it’s the Eagles
Jason La Canfora has it right I believe when he says:
“Here is some food for thought — from the start of the 2015 league year until the start of the 2016 league year — the Eagles spent $201 million on payroll in real dollars, way more than any other team in the NFL (Miami was next at $187 million, according to NFL management council figures). That includes their big splurge on QB Sam Bradford and re-signing Vinny Curry and Zach Ertz and all of those guys, and it doesn’t even include the big bucks they gave backup QB Chase Daniel.
Owners don’t do that to then go out, in a year in which they are clearly in win-now mode in a watered-down NFC East, and then go spend another $25 million on a quarterback in the draft when they still have many other needs.
Sorry, I’m not buying it. Follow the money.”
Exactly…follow the money…its a smoke screen…I wonder who the Eagles really want
On Friday, an interesting (or perhaps better stated, odd) report emerged from Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports, saying the Eagles’ interest in quarterbacks is all for show, and they’re more likely to trade back than trade up.
The more I hear about the Eagles and quarterbacks — Carson Wentz is the flavor du jour today — the more I continue to believe they will be looking to trade down, pick up draft picks, and address other positions in the draft. I’m not buying any of this, and I continue to hear from shrewd execs on other teams that they believe this is all for show from Philly as well.
Here is some food for thought — from the start of the 2015 league year until the start of the 2016 league year — the Eagles spent $201 million on payroll in real dollars, way more than any other team in the NFL (Miami was next at $187 million, according to NFL management council figures). That includes their big splurge on QB Sam Bradford and re-signing Vinny Curry and Zach Ertz and all of those guys, and it doesn’t even include the big bucks they gave backup QB Chase Daniel.
Owners don’t do that to then go out, in a year in which they are clearly in win-now mode in a watered-down NFC East, and then go spend another $25 million on a quarterback in the draft when they still have many other needs.
Sorry, I’m not buying it. Follow the money.
To begin, QUARTERBACK IS A NEED! But beyond that, the “follow the money” logic makes no sense.
Sam Bradford is with the Eagles on a two-year deal, which is really more like a one-year deal seeing as it essentially has no guarantees in year two. Meanwhile, Chase Daniel is paid well… for a backup. And that’s what he is — a backup. The common thinking is that Wentz will need a year to get up to speed in the NFL before you throw him to the wolves. Therefore, the idea that the Eagles have a lot of money wrapped up in their quarterbacks may be true to a degree, but it would only be for one year, and would make sense for the Eagles’ situation.
Dismissing the idea of the Eagles trading up for Wentz would be completely dismissing the idea that the Eagles have an eye toward a long-term answer at the most important position in sports. The short-term money paid to three quarterbacks on the roster is irrelevant if you think you’ve just drafted the future face of your franchise.
Furthermore, the deals the Eagles completed with Curry, Ertz, Lane Johnson, Malcolm Jenkins, and Brent Celek were done because the Eagles feel that they are core members of the franchise who they could lock up at bargain dollars before they hit the free agent market. Those deals have absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with the Eagles’ draft strategy.
The source of the La Canfora’s commentary most certainly isn’t coming from “shrewd execs on other teams.” If anything, it’s coming from a media-shrewd exec with the Eagles who is trying to create confusion.
Could the Eagles trade back? Eh, maybe if they were blown away by an offer. But it won’t be because they signed guys like Bradford, Curry, and Ertz to contract extensions.
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Jason La Canfora has it right I believe when he says:
La Canfora ends his comments by saying:
“Maybe I end up being completely wrong — wouldn’t be the first time; won’t be the last”
Yes…who knows..maybe the Eagles do make a dumb move and get Wentz or Goff or trade up for one of them. There is always the “possibility” that we could be wrong….just as you all were dead wrong about the Eagles resigning Sam Bradford…but I doubt it for several reasons…
1. What will they give up to trade up? 2. Other teams like the 49ers have much more ammo to trade up 3. Its all a smoke screen and the Eagles want someone else…I dont know who…but it aint a QB for the first round!
Book It
Sorry, I’m not buying it. Follow the money.
To begin, QUARTERBACK IS A NEED! But beyond that, the “follow the money” logic makes no sense.
Sam Bradford is with the Eagles on a two-year deal, which is really more like a one-year deal seeing as it essentially has no guarantees in year two. Meanwhile, Chase Daniel is paid well… for a backup. And that’s what he is — a backup. The common thinking is that Wentz will need a year to get up to speed in the NFL before you throw him to the wolves. Therefore, the idea that the Eagles have a lot of money wrapped up in their quarterbacks may be true to a degree, but it would only be for one year, and would make sense for the Eagles’ situation.
Dismissing the idea of the Eagles trading up for Wentz would be completely dismissing the idea that the Eagles have an eye toward a long-term answer at the most important position in sports. The short-term money paid to three quarterbacks on the roster is irrelevant if you think you’ve just drafted the future face of your franchise.
Furthermore, the deals the Eagles completed with Curry, Ertz, Lane Johnson, Malcolm Jenkins, and Brent Celek were done because the Eagles feel that they are core members of the franchise who they could lock up at bargain dollars before they hit the free agent market. Those deals have absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with the Eagles’ draft strategy.
The source of the La Canfora’s commentary most certainly isn’t coming from “shrewd execs on other teams.” If anything, it’s coming from a media-shrewd exec with the Eagles who is trying to create confusion.
Could the Eagles trade back? Eh, maybe if they were blown away by an offer. But it won’t be because they signed guys like Bradford, Curry, and Ertz to contract extensions.
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I think everyone has to understand that this Draft is not Deep with Playmakers or Overall Talent on either side of the Ball by most NFL Scouts and Observors….So there is not going to be a big demand for Teams to Move up to that #8 Spot that the Eagles are currently sitting in…
In Fact the Draft Picks in Round’s # 3,#4,#5 are deemed less valuable than other Drafts due to the overall weakness and lack of depth of this Years Draft Class so trading them away may hurt as much in past Drafts…
The Eagles best Move in my Opinion would be to go all in and move up in the Draft to get one of the 1 of the 3 Real Impact Players in this Draft
(QB Wentz, DB Ramsey or OT Tunsil)
Since the Eagles are Currently at #8, the Cost to move up to get an Impact Player may actually be less than in past Years if this makes any sense..
Its kind of like the Stock Market where you have to go against conventional wisdom to have a chance to hit a home run… Franchise QB’s don’t come easily and if your are continually Drafting in the middle to end of the 1st Round, then you are never able to obtain one… sitting at #8 this Year is the time to pull the trigger since Bradford is only a short-term answer at QB
I truly believe if the Eagles knew or had the Deal with the Dolphins in the bag to get up the #8 Pick with the Dolphins that they now have, that they would have never re-signed Sam Bradford, but that’s water under the bridge now..
They need to move up and go get Carson Wentz if they want their Best Chance for a Franchise QB even if it includes trading Fletcher Cox..
The bradford deal and the dollar amount are not as crippling or shocking when you look below the surface- desert explained it well but the way the payments are structured it won’t hurt the eagles or a trading partner too much if in fact a trade happens. now the cox situation makes him worth almost NOTHING on the market….
“Its kind of like the Stock Market where you have to go against conventional wisdom to have a chance to hit a home run”
bad analogy, going against conventional wisdom in the stock market will bankrupt you. you just have to know what youre doing, know all investment options, know how to interpret financial information and news associated with the co. and have a grasp of when to buy, sell, cut your losses.
going against conventional wisdom is suicide in the investment game.
It all depends MHenski.. Going against Conventional Wisdom does not have to mean being reckless or making poor decisions based on what the financials are saying or trending .. Sometimes its the Timing of Decisions that make things work or fail, rather than the decision itself … Predicting Future Success in Terms of the Market or Financials is always a tricky business … Right now for example, Big Oil and Related Products have seen Flat to Negative Returns due to the lower World-Wide Demand on Oil and the Low Price of Oil.. How long does anyone expect for Crude Oil to Remain around that $40 Per Barrel Price ?? Don’t you think that now is a good time to Purchase, Invest into Company Stocks in the Oil and Related Products Industry ??
How about Defense Companies ? With 10-12 Years of War in Iran/Afghanistan doesn’t the US Military need to re-arm itself with equipment.. And Especially if the Republicans win the WH or even Hillary Clinton who is probably more Hawkish than some Republican Candidates…
So right now may be a good time to look at Lockheed, Boeing, BAE Systems, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Oshkosh Truck, etc,etc
Now if Bernie Sanders somehow Wins .. Who knows…the Market will likely Crash and Burn short-term …
But never make any important decisions in life without doing your homework and prep-work first.. Read up, Ask People in the know and with Experience, Gain Knowledge, Be Prepared, etc,etc, etc…
ok your definition of going against conventional wisdom in the market is not necessarily that similar to mine…
regarding investing in oil companies, i would never unless i was buying now and just leaving it there until retirement. same with any war machine companies, as those companies just dont produce short term gains i look for
i think betting on oil companies and war machine companies right now arent going against conventional wisdom… standard buy low, long term investments…
“The source of the La Canfora’s commentary most certainly isn’t coming from “shrewd execs on other teams.” If anything, it’s coming from a media-shrewd exec with the Eagles who is trying to create confusion.”
EHL that’s your own jaded view…La Canfora is plugged in as much as anyone. He knows other execs in the NFL and its not a stretch at all to believe that other execs are telling him that the Eagles are blowing some heavy smoke to trick people.
I heard Andrew Brandt a former NFL exec say that if he was in the front office he would believe that the Eagles were blowing smoke about getting another QB…Why? He advocates the follow the money rule as well!
Here is the simple problem, you and so many others in the ‘Hate Sam’ camp refuse to accept that the Eagles dont see Sam Bradford as a ‘bust’ at all, they believe in Bradford as a quality QB. They simply and wisely see his risk for injury given his history…so they have protected themselves with a QB that Pederson believes in as well….Chase Daniels.
The Eagles have made their main moves for Qb…now what’s left is getting a third string QB that may have some potential…NOT Wentz or Goff!
“Following the money” it makes more sense that the Eagles try to get a second round pick to fill in some other needs. It is more likely that the Eagles will try to trade down rather than trade up.
The Eagles are trying hard….too hard to convince everyone that want Wentz. Its a smoke screen, a trick…and it just might work for the Eagles to get that guy they really want-and that guy is NOT a QB.
EHL that’s your own jaded view. WRONG!!!
…except for the fact that Jimmy Kempski wrote it. I just posted Kempski’s article as a counter to the LaCanfora piece you put up. LMAO!!!
Koolbreeze’s idea:
The Eagles are hosting QBs just to “blow smoke” to raise the profile of these QBs so that other teams will take these QBs and the player they “really want” will drop to them.
At the same time, other teams must be doing the same!!
The Bucs have been hosting OL and DL because they are “blowing smoke” trying to to raise the profile of these OL and DLs so that other teams will take these OL and DLs and the player they “really want” (obv a QB)will drop to them.
The Ravens have been hosting OL and DL because they are “blowing smoke” trying to to raise the profile of these OL and DLs so that other teams will take these OL and DLs and the player they “really want” (obv a QB) will drop to them.
The Giants have hosted and Ezekial Elliott and OL and DL because they are “blowing smoke” trying to to raise the profile of these OL and DLs so that other teams will take these OL and DLs and the player they “really want” (obv a QB)will drop to them.
LOL
Which is why Fletcher Cox will be Dealt either packaged with that #8 Pick to Move up for QB Wentz or Cox will Dealt his Own to return some Draft Picks even if its for 2017 Draft …
Wentz played against top college talent in the senior bowl, and many of the coaches, as well as some big time defensive players, considered him the best they ever saw.
The guy can play, there’s no doubt. If teams are willing to move up to take him with the first pick in the draft, then there’s a good percentage chance that he will be a successful pro quarterback.
Over the last 20 years there have been 13 QBs picked first in the draft….Of those 13 only 4 – David Carr, JaMarcus Russell, Sam Bradford, and Tim Couch have been bust… Normally the first pick quarterback is a success….
Bull! Sam Bradford completed 65% of his passes last year!!!!
lol
The Senior Bowl…are you kidding me!
List of the Top Overall NFL Draft Selections since 1999 Draft
2015 TB Bucs – QB J Winston (Pro Bowl, Offensive ROY, Great Start)
2014 Texans – DE Jadaveon Clowney (Bust, Heart & Desire Questioned)
2013 Chiefs – OT Eric Fisher (0 Pro-Bowls, Has Underperformed)
2012 Colts – QB Andrew Luck (3 Pro Bowls & 3 Playoffs)
2011 Panthers – QB Cam Newton (ROY, Pro-Bowls, Playoffs, MVP, Super Bowl)
2010 Rams – QB Sam Bradford (No Pro Bowls, No Playoffs, Losing Record)
2009 Lions – QB Matt Stafford (1 Pro Bowl , 2 Playoffs, Horrible vs Winning Teams)
2008 Rams – OT Jake Long (4 Pro Bowls, then Injuries hit)
2007 Raiders – QB Jamarcus Russell (Complete Bust)
2006 Texans – DE Mario Williams (3 Pro Bowl’s but is now playing for his 3rd Team and overall an underachiever)
2005 49ers – QB Alex Smith (1 Pro Bowl – Has had a Nice Overall Career)
2004 Giants – QB Eli Manning (Pro-Bowls, Payoffs & 2 Super Bowl Rings)
2003 Bengals – QB Carson Palmer (Pro-Bowls, Playoffs & Injuries)
2002 Texans – QB David Carr (Shell-Shocked on an Expansion Team)
2001 Falcons – QB Mike Vick (4 Pro-Bowls, A few Playoffs, but never really became a complete NFL QB as talented as he was, Legal Issues)
2000 Browns – DE Cortney Brown (Salt being rubbed into the Wounds)
1999 Browns – QB Tim Couch (Cleveland being Cleveland)
fraudman when you stick to facts you have some decent posts… the way i read your post… Newton has one fewer year in the league than our qb but is much more successful. Luck same thing and even winston who only has his rookie year is more successful (pro bowl).. Every QB on your list as at least 1 probowl except: sammy, russell, carr and couch???? what a list to be a part of…
i do believe in fairness that sammy sideways has a ROY?????? maybe???
Yes and to be fair, Sam Bradford was Offensive ROY in 2010 to his Credit for the SL Rams ..
There is NO WAY they are trading up for a QB. For those that are hoping, just stop now so you are not let down.
These are the same people who were anti-bradford from the beginning – media and fans included. First, it was “no way they are signing Bradford”. Then it was “they are going to trade bradford before guaranteed money hits.” Now its “they are trading up for Wentz.” Just accept that they are going to give Bradford every opportunity to win this job for the long term (right or wrong). Here are three crystal clear reasons why they are not trading up:
1. Bradford’s deal is not a bridge deal as many claim. The first step of rationale that all of the “trade up” crew point to is that Bradford is not here long term and the team is not sold on him as their franchise. The deal they gave Bradford says to anyone that cares to actually look at it that they want to give Bradford every opportunity to be the Franchise QB but needed to protect themselves in the event of injury or if Bradford doesn’t materialize. The built in protection does not mean that they have completely lost hope in Bradford. Why would you give him that contract (or any contract) if you are giving up additional assets to trade up for his replacement? Trading up for Wentz guarantees that Bradford is gone after next year which would mean they are not giving him a legit chance to be the franchise. This makes sense for the anti-bradford crew, but makes NO sense when you look at the money and their moves to date.
2. The amount of money spent on defense this off season would make no sense if your ultimate goal was to tread water while your rookie franchise QB was groomed. Most of the contracts given this off-season will either need to be reworked or players cut in 3-4 years which is right when your rookie QB will be ready to start winning. Again, if you look at the entire picture, their actions to date do not reflect an ideology of hitting the reset button with a rookie QB. Plan “A” is for Bradford to become the Franchise and therefore they will be ready to make a push in the next 2-3 years.
3. Beware of players that become “can’t miss” in the three months leading up to the draft. I say this because if Carson Wentz was this year’s Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, or Jamis Winston we would have known about him a long time ago. Those are the guys that you trade assets to go get. That fact that Wentz was an unknown for so long raises his bust potential by a 1000. I know there are always risks in the draft, but if you are going to trade multiple assets to draft someone, you better make sure their risk level is as low as possible. None of the QBs in this draft fit that formula and therefore it would be foolish for anyone (let alone the eagles) to trade up for them.
Bottom line – If Goff or Wentz falls they will take their shot and draft them a la GB with Rodgers, but no way in hell are they trading up for them…..Mark it down and get your tissues ready for draft day.
Bottom line – If Goff or Wentz falls they will take their shot and draft them a la GB with Rodgers, but no way in hell are they trading up for them…..Mark it down and get your tissues ready for draft day.
Okay kool, thanks!
typical response from one of the 5 or so fans on here who are in denial about what is happening right infront of their eyes.
Whether you agree or not they are giving Bradford chance and that means they are NOT drafting a qb early unless someone falls.
Say what you want to make it easier on yourself but the sooner you accept this the easier the let down will be.
Excellent post Canttakeitanymore except I dont believe they would take Goff or Wentz if either of them are there at 8! I think its all a ruse, a trick to get teams to reach for these two QB’s and create more of an opportunity to grab the guy that they really want….and that guy they haven’t told us who he is.
“Excellent post Canttakeitanymore” says Canttakeitanymore!
LOL
enjoy this time vinnie – your fantasy of them trading up for a qb has a three week shelf life. after that you are going to have to accept that bradford will be giving every chance to make this team his.
go get him howie if you don’t we won’t get our qb tip 3yrs down the line then we will have to wait another 2-3 for him to develop which could turn all together into a 6yr process get your guy keep it moving and hope he’s ready to play in 2017
Or you can build around Bradford and go Oline in this years draft in the later rounds, and use that top pick in next years draft for another Linemen.
Go Ezekial Elliot to give this offense much needed fire power at the skill positions. Opening up that run game will make things much easier for Zach and our WR’S.
Or you can go defense with that top pick this year and start making that defense the best it has been in nearly a decade. If Joey Bosa somehow slips to 8 or Ramsey Philly would not be fools to take them.
You have a formidable backup who will know the system and what the head coach expects. And whether most want to admit it or not, the nfl has no idea what chase is capable of in a starting role.
It is not like he was going to replace Drew Brees, even thought alot of Saints fans believed he was gonna be Drews replacement. Alex Smith obviously who has been a damn good Qb the past 6 years and more then likely would have gone to the superbowl if not for a dropped punt against the Giants. He is not on Drews level but Chase was not going to get that job from Alex unless a injury hit him.. Again there was alot of Chiefs fans who thought he should replace Alex Smith.
I know this because I know some personally and I go on other teams blogs that we sign and see what they have to say.
This team can win with Bradford. I would take him over Kirk and Romo hands down. Kirk will be exposed next year and Romo is the most overhyped qb of all time because of the fact he plays for Americas Team. That collarbone is a ticking time bomb.
Eli won 2 rings so I cant say I would rather Sam over him. Even though he won by having a great defense hold brady in check not once by twice. And as I stated above, san fran should have won that game if not for that muffed punt..
But even with all that said, he made the clutch throw when it counted and went on 2 magical playoff runs. But in the regular season he leads nfl in ints it seems like every year.
You can win with sam with an improved defense, oline, and ezekial elliot in backfield to take pressure off of him.
“Or you can build around Sam Bradford”
Dude, it isn;t 2010 anymore.
2 teams have tried to “build around Sam Bradford” and every attempt has been abject failure.
But this year will be different right? That what you think the plan should be??
Every other year has been a failure with the guy…but this time….this time it will be different!!
CT you use the words ‘If’ and “but” an awful lot…those words don’t really even exist in professional sports…
Koolbreeze on Sam Bradford:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFvujknrBuE&nohtml5=False
So that is what your saying the Rams did? They built around Sam Bradford? LMAO
Chip kelly not drafting a Olinemen and getting rid of Lesean and Maclin? He built around Bradford?
Bradford was drafted in 2010.
Over the next 4 years the Rams:
1st, 2nd, 2 3rds and 3 4th round picks on wrs.
A 2nd on a TE, and a FA TE.
With the Eagles he has a 2nd on a te, a 1st and a second on wrs.
Teams have done nothing but try to provide this guy with weapons. But they all suck.
Everyone around Bradford always sucks. Just like everyone around Vick always sucked.
They’re the two most unlucky players ever.
Each and every 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounder added to a team he was on have all sucked. Poor unlucky Bradford.
tell me. ..did any of those guys drafted suddenly turn in to a stud after bradford left/ got hurt?
You’re right. The Rams drafted and put great support around Sam.. Danny Amandola who was hurt more then he was, and Brandon Gibson has his number one WR? Was the great Brian Quick there with Sam? Tavon Austin? Who tore his ACL his rookie season.
I get you hate Sam, but you have no argument with a background. A qb is one man.
They drafted terrible, with no defense or Oline to shout about as woell. His team led the league in drops and he was at the top of the league in QBsacks and hurries.
Sam being in a new system and new tteammates with no olinmen drafted or Maclin or Mccoy was not going to help him coming back from 2 acl tears.
Vick was always a injury prone, turnover machine highlight reel gimmick. The talent he had to work with was 10000 times high then Sams. Look at the Philly team he was with in 2010.
Sam never had that.
He got 2 fluke knee injuries. You never kknow what he would have accomplished if he stayed healhty after going going 14-4 thru 7 games.
CT – every excuse you made for Sam will still be there again next year… New system – same WRs he lost with last year – so so offensive line – worse backfield than last year….
So I guess we can expect the same results from Sam next year? Or is Chris Givens going to turn Sam into a long ball juggernaut?
By the way, Chris Givens had more yards/rec after Sam was injured in STL.
Coming from a guy whose biggest support for QB’s have been
Kevin Kolb and Nick Foles
When we assess QB’s for the Eagles its important to understand where we came from…
Sam Bradford to the chagrin of Vinnie has a fat contract-despite predictions from Vinnie and others that the Eagles would let him walk
while the guy we traded and got rid of the Rams are talking about putting his ass out on the street..
In fact, ask the St Louis Rams fans who endured all of those years where Sam Bradford was supposedly so bad…ask them who got the better of the Nick Foles-Sam Bradford deal?
Mind you we threw in a second round pick!
In a recent poll an overwhelming 82% of the St Louis fans polled said the Eagles got the better end of the deal and they felt we snookered them with Foles!
So it begs the question…if Sam was so bad with the Rams, how come Nick Foles didn’t take them to new heights??
Sam Bradford is the Eagles starting QB!
Book it!
Your “fan poll” means shit when everyone knows it was just you logging in and clicking “Eagles” 348 times.
“Who won the Nick Foles for Sam Bradford deal?
19% The Rams
(1284 votes)
81% The Eagles
(5521 votes)
6805 votes total”
Taken from turfshowtimes.com/2016/1/6/10716442/who-won-the-bradford-foles-deal
Wasn’t my fan poll Vinnie…straight out of St Louis. We all know that out of the 1284 votes that was cast for Foles you logged repeatedly in that website and got them 1000 clicks for Foles!
No matter what all of you in the Sam Haters Club think…one thing is very obvious:
We upgraded the position by getting rid of Nick Foles.
The Rams fans believe that, the Eagles management believes that including the new Coach who has told us: “Sam Bradford is a top-notch QB” and then signed him to a brand new massive deal!
You stomp, pout, scream and shout: “Sam sucks”
Its irrelevant…your were wrong…dead wrong!
Sam Bradford is the Eagles starting QB!
Book it!!
First of all…your hanging ourt on STL Rams websites only confirms your strange obsession with the former Eagles QB.
Its weird really. Now that we all know you hang out there scouring the site for Foles stories, its pretty damn clear you are also were one who voted in that poll. Again, probably several humndred times. We all know you have nothing else to do as evidenced by your mid-super bowl website postins, and the fact that you post in here under a several different names.
You need help buddy.
LMAO…
Desperate, despondent, and delusional
When your argument is shot
When you have been proven wrong over and over again
When your stats fails
When your facts fall apart
Just grab for whatever desperate accusation you can make and hope it sticks…LMAO
Reality sets in eventually…the Eagles were in Quarterback Hell…stuck with a descending player who was falling apart mentally from the pressure…so with the very best move that Chip Kelly made for this franchise in his tenure…he snookered the Rams and traded Foles…your hero…your man crush.
Vinnie I know you want us to forgot the countless posts you had about the greatness of Foles…the arguments you made to sign him to a long term deal and make him the franchise QB…the claims that we made such a big mistake and how Foles would go to the Rams and lead their franchise to prominence…I know you want us to forget all of that…
We wont forget Vinnie!
We know that at the root of your Sam Bradford hatred lies Nick Foles…
So of course you are jaded, bias, desperate…and you predicted that the Eagles would see this your way and that Sam Bradford would be gone, finished after just one year
Wrong again…
Sam Bradford is the Eagles starting QB!
Despite all of your predictions, all of desperate claims…your wrong again
You got more sorrow coming Vinnie…the Eagles are not drafting a QB high in the draft…Sam Bradford will play well this year and your boy Foles may not even be in the NFL any longer…
Finished, done, and over!
https://youtu.be/UDMZaarH2ug
so with the very best move that Chip Kelly made for this franchise in his tenure…he snookered the Rams and traded Foles…your hero…your man crush.
Are you serious? The Eagles are 7-9 since Kelly traded for Bradford… That’s more losses in one year than Foles had in his three year career as an Eagle.
I don’t give a shit what Foles did in St Louis – when Foles was an Eagles quarterback he was 10 times better than Bradford.
You certainly have no reason to puff your chest out and be proud for supporting that fucking stiff Bradford… He is the biggest first round bust since Jamarcus Russell. And we can thank Kelly for that……
Quick, who would trade a second round pick to drop the Eagles’record from 10-6 to 7-9?
Koolcan’ttakeitanymoreBreeze waving his arm hysterically like some demented Horshack. “Me! me! me! It would be the best move ever!”
Here is a great question for everyone and especially Kool”wonthetrade”Breeze
Will Sam Bradford pass Nick Foles win total (for the Eagles) this season?
Yes or no?
Nick Foles started 24 games for the Eagles. He is credited with 15 wins.
Sam Bradford has started 14 games for the Eagles. He is credited with 7 wins.
Sam Bradford, theoretically, should get to 30 starts by the end of the year.
The question….will he get to 16 wins???? Chime in Gcobb? Yes or No…will Bradford get to 16 total wins this year??? All he needs is 9 wins. Will he make it??
Absolutely NOT…..BUT (fill in an excuse) and if only (blame some other player) and the a gain BUT (a ref hadn’t made a bad call), IF (an OL didn’t get hurt)…. Etc, etc, etc
Some folks never learn…they never get it…
“Nick Foles started 24 games for the Eagles. He is credited with 15 wins.”
LMAO…
Nick Foles my ass…”credited with 15 wins”…LMAO
The special teams scores a touchdown, the defense plays its ass off…and idiots want to ‘credit’ Foles for a win.
Foles sucked ass. He was going down and going down hard…and Chip Kelly did see it coming…so he shipped him out just in the ‘Nick’ of time
He fell completely apart last year
Bradford moved in a different direction…shitty offensive line, no running game, and receivers that led the league in drops….Bradford STILL completed %65 of his passes and improved as the season went on after a 2 year layoff.
So the Eagles paid him accordingly….with more guaranteed money than he would have gotten if they franchised him for a year …a deal that was good for the Eagles and Bradford.
What Nick Foles did when he had Shady, Maclin, and DJax is irrelevant…we dont have that team anymore…our point of comparison is last year.
Nick Foles performance last year justified more than anything our getting rid of him and upgrading the QB position.
And the Eagles agree…which is why instead of letting Bradford walk like Vinniedafoolass and others predicted…the Eagles made sure they kept him…and on draft day when they pick Elliot the running back or trade down and get an offensive lineman…it will all be proven.
Sorry can’t take it …that’s how qb numbers work… So does Bradford get 9 more wins? Simple question….
Love he excuses… In sports excuses are for pussies and losers…
You can’t do it can you Koolbreeze? Can’t make a call. I knew it.
You have been in here screaming about how great Waterford is for over a year. You’ve been screaming how terrible Foles is.
But its all been your very own “smokesscreen”. You don’t believe it. You’ve just been pumping his tires because….well…who knows why because it never made any sense.
At the end of this year Sammy Sevens will have had 30 starts.
Can he get ahead of of the absolutely horrible Nick Foles?? He who had 15 Eagles wins in 24 starts?
Can he pass a measly 15 wins??
Call it Kooltwit.
Vinnie, I understand…
You just dont get it and never will.
You are simply ignorant about the game of football
I’m not predicting how many “games” Tom Brady will win…
Football is a team sport fool…its not tennis or boxing
Vinniedafool you cant understand this simple reality…which is why your an idiot!
You simpleton outlooks explain why you can hate a star QB like Cam Newton but love a loser, ass bum like Nick Foles.
You dont watch the game you look at stat sheets
So for example when Foles was missing wide open receivers all game, throwing off his backfoot, confused and flustered by defenses…and then our defense scores off of a turnover and special teams runs back a punt…we eke out the win…you will “credit” the Quarterback
“He won the game”..”Foles just wins”…when we all saw that he sucked ass
Bradford like last year will not be the reason the Eagles lose games….I predict he will play well, he will hit open receivers, he will audible, he will read the defenses and take what is given to him…the Eagles will run the ball and the defense will be better. The Eagles should make the playoffs…
Bradford barring injury will be far better than the QB we got rid of to obtain him…
Vinniedafoolass, you wonder why I use your mancrush Foles so much to highlight my points? It is to show how worthless your assessments really are. According to you , Foles ‘won’ games with the Eagles, he has “won” more games than Bradford? So why is it that he will either be cut very soon or be riding the bench as a third string QB, while Bradford going to be a starting QB next year with a massive contract that will guarantee him up to $26 million dollars if he stays healthy?
Explain that Vinniedafoolass!
Still can’t do it. No faith.
Wow. Screaming and yelling and blustering, and preening about how great Bradford is. Book IT! Whatever it takes!
All just a pathetic, no substance gaggle of empty words. You didn’t believe one word you wrote.
You don’t even believe Bradford can get to a miseerable 9 wins. You can’t make the call.
Deep down you don’t believe a word you’ve written. You don’t believe at all that great Sam Bradford can pass the measly 15 wins of the abysmal, horrible, back foot throwing Nick Foles.
If you had any fait, you would have answered the simple question with a simple 3 letter answer. “yes
But you didn’t. You bailed. You backtracked. You deflected. You ran. You hid.
Yes or no putz?
Will the great Sam Bradford pass the pathetic Nick Foles in wins this year (and with a potential 6 more starts)
LOL
Everyone knew it.
But don’t feel too bad Koolwuss. Everyone knew you were full of hot air. That you were all bluster and you didn’t actually believe what you were writing.
Sammy Sevens doesn’t fit your “type” of player. You love the “pound my chest – look at me types” The MeSeans, the Leseans, the Deseans, the Vicks, the Iversons, the Manziels, the Newtons, the Owenses”
The guys who will occasionally pull a rabbit out of their hat, but who never win in the end because they always fold. The guys who point at themselves when things are going well and point at others when theings go wrong. As long as they have “swagger” or “it” or whatever stupid moniker you use…that’s your kind of guy. You’ve been very consistent there.
So Bradford doesn’t fit. We all knew he wasn’t your guy. He doesn’t do any of those things. All he does is lose games, mopeing around the fielf wearing a giant helmet and looking like a confused Eyore. Sam “Eyeore” Bradford. It doesn’t fit the type of guy you usually hype – well, except for the losing part.
So we all knew it was a ruse, and now you have confirmed it.
A year of bluster about how great Bradford is, and you won’t even commit to 9 pathetic wins.
Youcan’t even gird up your loins and make a call as to whether he will pass the pathetic Nick Foles.
Don’t worry Koolwuss. We knew it all along.
“the pathetic Nick Foles”
After so long…Vinnie has finally turned on him mancrush…LMAO
Vinnie finally broke…this latest news was just too much to bear…
Of all the teams to move up to grab the 1st pick to get a QB
It had to be the Rams…how ironic…they had to make such a desperate move because they know they were fleeced in the Foles-Bradford trade
One bad trade has turned into another…and now they are out…and soon Nick Foles will be looking for another job.
The same Nick Foles that Vinnie said we should take back on the Eagles before re-signing Bradford!
You are so ass out Vinnie
Vinnie, humiliated, broke, and despondent
We understand Vinnie…
Down on your luck
Embarrassed…
Humiliated
You are desperately looking for an out..its all falling apart
Sam Bradford as I predicted is the No#1 QB for the Eagles
All the way across the board you have been wrong, wrong, wrong…
Now your looking for a way out…
Its over for you Vinnie…LOL
Still avoiding eh?
Yes or no?
Can Super Sammy Sevens win more games than the pathetic Nick Foles??
If Sammy is so great, and Nick so absolutely terrible, throwing off his back foot and all that, then this has to be easy for you right?
Yet you won’t. And we all know why.
You yourself have finally broke down and admitted Vinnie…
“the pathetic Nick Foles”
your feeble efforts to try to safe face by moving in some other ridiculous direction is pointless…
Football like I said fool…is a team game its not tennis or boxing
Sam Bradford is the Quarterback of my team…the Philadelphia Eagles
I want them and all true fans want them to win as many games as possible to make the playoffs..
We know now you can be likened to a scorned lover who having failed to obtain the object of desire…you now want everyone else to be miserable and wrong as hell…like you.
Your broke Vinnie…the gig is up…the game is over…your finished
Sam Bradford is the QB of the Philadelphia Eagles
And once again that means you were dead wrong!
pathetic and humiliated.
Are you just pretending to be stupid, or are you really that stupid? Because its hard to tell.
Everyone in here (save you perhaps – who knows) knows I was paraphrasing you. Because of my faith in humanity I have to believe you also know I was just paraphrasing and are now just rolling this new line as another pathetic attempt to rile me up or something.
Its either that or another failure of the Philadelphia public school system.
Make a call fraidy-cat.
Will he surpass the pathetic Nick Foles?? Yes or no.
Give it up Vinnie…its over
Your washed up and finished…
Why not just drift away…you wont get any joy out of seeing the Eagles win this year! Your a bitter grumbler who has been forced to concede that your mancrush, Nick Foles is “pathetic”
Now in seeking some redemption for being so wrong and stupid…you want the Eagles to fail…you need them to lose to validate your failed position and wrong predictions…
Sit down Fool ass! your wrong just admit it..look in the mirror and man up…just admit you are an idiot that knows nothing about football…
Accept the reality Fool ass!
Brawwwk Brawwk Brawwk Brawwk…..
Exactly haveablunt…so why do you keep making excuses for that pussy ass Riley Cooper, the loser offensiveline…the wimp Demarco Murray….and that sorry ass defense??
I’ve never mentioned any of that … Those are your excuses
You dont have to say any of that…its inherent in your Bradford bashing
I’m glad you brought that up KB because haveacrackpipe defended Cooper to the end no matter what. Nothing showed more of what haveaswastika was all about than when he defended Cooper for calling that african-american security guard a nigger for simply doing his job.The truth is haveaskinhead defended Cooper to the death for the simple fact he shares the same racist ideology as Cooper. I also notice when it comes to black athletes sneezing wrong haveaconfederate flag is the first one to call them a loser, piece of shit or various other negative names.
I never really noticed that from havablunt…mhenski…4 sure
site one example of anything racist i ever posted, ever. lets bet it, if you can site one example of something racist from me ill leave and never can back. you can site an example, you leave. Bet?
He said a bad word and hurt your feelings…. Boo fucking hoo! Get over it. Lots of people say that bad word and people don’t say a peep… Okafor said it on tape in s drunken fight… No outrage…double standard much.
For hot air it’s just another way to cloud the narrative that sideways sucks
Ian Rapoport
✔ @RapSheet
The #Eagles have had exploratory talks about moving up to No. 1, as have others. To get their franchise QB, the belief is they’d have to.
7:10 PM – 13 Apr 2016
Bull!!!
What is this talk Ian is spewing? The Eagles already have their franchise QB. If they did not then I would understand what Ian was talking about. For a team that already has a future franchise QB in Sham Bradfraud with a juggernaut one year deal, there certainly is a lot of football people discussing the Eagles getting their future franchise QB in the draft. Why..How can this be? Oh…Smoke screen…media hype..schwew…I feel better now.
Follow the money…for a year!
Every reporter seem to know what the Eagles are going to do…
Funny they all have the inside track that the Eagles really want a QB…
But none of them had the same ‘inside track’ on the Eagles resigning Sam Bradford!
Strange indeed…we will find out on draft day…the real deal