Jan 9, 2016; Frisco, TX, USA; North Dakota State Bison quarterback Carson Wentz (11) throws a pass in the third quarter against the Jacksonville State Gamecocks in the FCS Championship college football game at Toyota Stadium. North Dakota State won the championship 37-10. Mandatory Credit: Tim Heitman-USA TODAY Sports
We now know the Eagles won’t be moving up to get the first pick in the draft because the Los Angeles Rams have already made that move. They’ve cut a deal with the Titans to get the first pick. The Rams will be making this move because the Nick Foles trade didn’t work out for them. They need a quarterback and they need one desperately.
Los Angeles will send their No. 15 overall pick, 2 second-round picks (No. 43 and No. 45), one third-round pick (No. 76), their 2017 first-round pick and their 2017 third-round pick. The Titans will part with the No. 1 pick, their fourth-round pick (No. 113) and their sixth-round pick (No. 177).
This probably means the Eagles are going to stay in their eight spot unless they’re so in love with Jared Goff, that they want to give up a King’s Ransom to the Cleveland Browns to move up.
I think it would very difficult for the Birds to pass up Ezekiel Elliott if he is still on the board when they pick. It looks like their might be a decent chance that Notre Dame offensive tackle Ronnie Stanley will still be on the board when the Eagles pick because Mississippi offensive tackle Laremy Tumsil isn’t likely to go on the first pick.
I think the Birds need to grab one of those offensive lineman whether it be the second-rated offensive tackle Stanley or the third rated offensive tackle Michigan State’s Jack Conklin.
If they don’t select a quarterback, Elliott or one of the tackles, then I could see them grabbing Florida cornerback Vernon Hargreaves.
They made this Deal because of the extra 2nd Round Pick that they stole from the Eagles in the Bradford Deal..
You have to look at where the Rams were last year which was at the end of the Rope of under-performing Sam Bradford and his $13-$14 Million Salary
so they rolled the Dice and Traded him for Nick Foles but Fleeced Newbie GM Chip Kelly for the Eagles 2nd Round Pick
Only the Rams Front Office and Ownership knew they were relocating back to the LA so a need for a fresh face for the Franchise was needed for 2016 and it was not going to remain Sam Bradford..
Do note that the Rams finished 7-9 just like the Eagles Did …
If Nick Foles worked out for them great, but their Plan was to move to LA and get a new Franchise QB to build their Brand and getting the Eagles 2nd Round Pick helped make this occur with their Trade to the Titans….
Back to the Eagles,
If they truly Value either QB (Wentz/Goff) as Legitimate Franchise QB’s
then they will have to Trade up to the #2 Spot with the Browns to Secure that Selection.. If they don’t feel that either Wentz/Goff are much better than the
2nd Tier of QB’s, then remain at #8 and get the BPA to help strengthen the Roster
New Mock Top #10
1) Rams – Either QB Jared Goff or QB Carson Wentz
2) Browns – Either QB Jared Goff or QB Carson Wnetz
3) SD Chargers – OT Laramy Tunsil – MIss
4) Cowboys – DL Joey Bosa – Ohio State
5) Jaguars – LB Myles Jack – UCLA
6) Ravens – DL Deforest Buckner – Oregon
7) 49ers – DB Jalen Ramsey – Fla State
8) EAGLES – On the Clock and Trying to Trade Back….
They are Unable to do so, Time Expires – Howie Fails to get the Card and Pick in On Time and the Eagles Forfeit the #8 Pick … Good Grief….
pman…once yet again…you too are wearing the dunce cap
none of your dumb trades were even entertained
The Eagles have played the game right…they helped drive the market value of these QB’s beyond anything reasonable by feeding the smokescreen machine…”the Eagles really love Wentz”…”the Eagles really want a franchise Qb”…”Lurie goes to dinner with Wentz”…”they say the Eagles are in love with Goff”
All bullshit…and most of you bought right in..with you pman coming up with a bunch of absolutely ridiculous trade offers
The Eagles were settled on their QB situation when they committed all of that money to Bradford and signed Chase Daniels…
Pederson told us exactly what they wanted now…’a third string rookie to develop” and when he was asked directly about drafting a QB in the first round…he said “I dont know about that” in a tone that made it clear that it wasn’t in the plan for the Eagles
They fed the BS draft machine to give themselves a chance to get a better player that’s NOT a QB!
The Rams bit on the bait…and way overpaid the Titans are happy…
and so are the Eagles who also have the option of trading back and picking up a second round pick…
Rams didn’t bite on the Bait, they made their move to get their Franchise QB
Did they give up too much, probably so, but It depends how the QB pans out ..
They haven’t made the Playoffs the last 10 Years with QB Bums Bradford, Foles or Keenum so why not Roll the Dice if your the Rams who need to make a splash for playing back out in LA…
Koolbreeze, and when you talk about wearing a “Dunce Cap” and you Support a QB with a Career .390 Winning % in over 65 NFL Starts as Sam Bradford has, then that’s all I need to know about your Football Acumen, or lack there of.. Good Grief….
Eagles Talked to Titans, but obviously don’t have enough Top Picks to make a Deal .. The Rams had a much better Offer thanks to the Eagles 2nd Round Pick being included
https://youtu.be/h8cN6wZFDA8
https://youtu.be/mVgXGw_XhRQ
pman what else could attribute your ridiculous suggestion of trading Fletcher Cox too except putting on a dunce cap! Or your many other dumb trade suggestions. So you have clearly overrated your own football acumen.
Once again…the empty stat of Bradford’s “winning percentage” is absolutely meaningless…its football not tennis, boxing, or golf. The QB we got was far better than the QB we gave up…who is about to be cut by the Rams and will only be at best a third string Qb on some other team.
What this does for the Eagles is exactly what I have declared all along…push other needed talent down so that the Eagles can have a better chance for an impact player…if Elliot gets past Dallas, we have a good shot at him or some other good player that will be able to step right in and contribute immediately
Clearly you do believe the .390 is important too….less you would have made a call by now.
But you are afraid to….because you know .390 has meaning. You know .390 is going to keep your hero from catching and passing the pathetic Nick Foles.
Your words are meaningless, because you have no faith to back them.
You do not believe just like the rest of us.
Fraud. Full of empty talk.
Can’t utter a simple three letter word, because deep down not even he believes it.
Because the Eagles can’t Re-sign Fletcher Cox at the money and terms that he and his Agent want, that’s why Cox could very well be be traded and he can still be traded even alone in a transaction to return some Decent Draft Picks from some Team…
The Eagles are Not Pushing Talent down the Draft Board
the Market will dictate this (the other 31 Teams)
The Top 2 QB’s (Wentz/Goff) are in demand as QB’s are every year whether the Eagles are involved or not….. Both These QB’s will be Selected in the Top #5 regardless of what the Eagles do or don’t do…This happens every Draft and when you have multiple Teams with real needs at QB like the Rams,Browns,49ers,Jets do for 2016 and then other Teams that need to start addressing their Future QB needs like the Cowboys, Eagles, Saints, Bears all do then this is what happens….
The Eagles “forcing the Rams – smokescreen” arguemtns are pathetic.
I think the Rams are going to take the California Boy. This will still be a fun draft. Unless the Eagles take a RB at 8. Then it’ll be stupid.
NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport cautions “not to rule out a trade” that would net the Eagles the No. 2 overall pick.
RapSheet confirms Philadelphia was “in discussions” to jump to No. 1 overall before Thursday morning’s Los Angeles-Tennessee deal. National opinion is now shifting toward the Rams selecting Cal QB Jared Goff, leaving North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz at No. 2. If the Browns would prefer to collect picks rather than select Wentz — and the Eagles are willing to give up a draft-pick ransom — we could see another blockbuster deal near the top of the draft.
Related: Browns, Eagles
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Apr 14 – 3:05 PM
SMOKEY AS A MOFO DOWN AT NOVA CARE. EAGLES DOING BIG TINGS, CONTROLLING THE DRAFT, FORCING THE RAMS TO MAKE BIG TRADES. EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL CANT SEE REALITY BECAUSE OF ALL THIS GREEN SMOKE
LIVE LOOK AT THE NOVA CARE COMPLEX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uRkB8imyUk
LOL. All this Green Smoke. I lost it.
It doesn’t fit your agenda so of course it wasn’t a smokescreen, just tired of your bs Vinnie, you have been wrong about everything lately and yet you act so high and mighty as if you know it all and everybody else are just idiots, get off your high horse
“lately”. Really? Are you new here? He’s been off about everything for as long as this site has been around. Im happy others have finally realized it.
Cox is asking for too much money, sry at end of day u are just a DT, I say trade him for 2nd and fourth rd pick….sry he ain’t no qb…I love fletch but not that much
pman you make no sense
The Eagles have Cox for this year and can franchise him next year…you dont have a clue as to what is being offered and what the negotiations are…but the Eagles have his rights…he’s not going anywhere
The Eagles ARE influencing the market with all of ‘reports’ about them wanting Wentz or Goff as a QB and people reading their actions and interpreting them as wanting a QB badly. Every report to the degree it makes other people think “I have to make a move to beat the Eagles to the QB” impacts the market
Lets face it…both you and I agreed earlier…that these QB’s are overrated. If there are 10 blue chip players in this draft and the QB’s are not blue chip players that means the Eagles can get one of the ten if the two QB’s are drafted in the top ten!
Its simple as that
Nicely put Breezy…….You’re right.
I do think the Eagles loving Wentz was a smoke screen. Someone has to be the top rated QB coming out every year, doesn’t mean you get him at all costs. Sounds like a great kid and North Dakota Sate is literally out in the middle of nowhere, although he has won 2 champions in the last 2 years and has been 6′-5″ his whole college career with a big arm. There’s too much money spent on scouting and You Tube/team videos to get a look at every QB playing college football. It speaks very poorly of the whole scouting community to miss so badly and I don’t think they did. The hype machine that is the NFL, ESPN, etc has to make content from nothing just like the local news channels use “weather events” to drive ratings with unwarranted hype..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipXAFeSyK9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ0zBPRbVUs
SO SMOKEY!!!!!!! OTHER GMS CANT EVEN SEE OUT THERE
The Philadelphia Eagles do not benefit in the slightest by having other teams think they are interested in drafting a quarterback.. Anyone who thinks the Eagles interest in Wentz was a smoke screen is wrong.
In fact, ESPN reports that Titans general manager Jon Robinson stated that the Eagles were among the teams that made a trade offer to move up to the first overall pick, but that they withdrew their offer earlier this week……
Convo between Jon and Howie, hey Howie I got someone to bite, Howie awesome man I’ll just take my “offer” off the table. Lol I don’t believe any of these trades until it happens
zile~ and that benefits the Eagles how?
The Rams GM, Les Snead went running to make a big offer for the 1st overall pick because he was afraid Howie might get there first… And now that he bit on the scam, how does that help the Eagles?
Don’t give me the BS about pushing players down to the 8th pick, because someone was picking Wentz #1 regardless of what the Eagles did. The same players will be there at 8….
Well since you said dont feed you that bs I won’t, there is no other explanation, but I will say this Goff might have a slide like Rodgers, so picking the qbs early does benifit us to get better players, look man I don’t want goff or wentz, I’ll take Lynch based on upside
Goff might have a slide like Rodgers, so picking the qbs early does benifit us to get better players.
What?? If Goff slides that means fewer non-quarterback players will be there at 8…. Goff will likely be the Browns or 49ers, or Cowboys QB.
“and that benefits the Eagles how?
The Rams GM, Les Snead went running to make a big offer for the 1st overall pick because he was afraid Howie might get there first… And now that he bit on the scam, how does that help the Eagles?”
Simple…It pushes players down…and provides the Eagles with more opportunities to get better players. If Wentz and Goff…or Goff and Wentz go 1-2…Tunsil who was projected to be the first pick may fall to 3 which may push Ramsey to 5 which may push a Joey Bosa or a Buckner to us at 8…if not Elliot!
It has a chain impact on the draft! Prior to the draft each player was slotted in a certain position
Now its “the scam”
An Eagles’ trade offer was just “the scam”. Good thing the Titans didn;t accept it then right? LOL.
I am reading that both the Rams and Browns like Goff best and because of this deal the Browns might just pass on a QB…if that happens….Wentz is going to slide……
Simple…It pushes players down…and provides the Eagles with more opportunities to get better players. If Wentz and Goff…or Goff and Wentz go 1-2…Tunsil who was projected to be the first pick may fall to 3 which may push Ramsey to 5 which may push a Joey Bosa or a Buckner to us at 8…if not Elliot!
I see, so you think if the Eagles had not flown out west to meet with Wentz in March he would not be drafted until after the 8th pick… That’s what your saying?
You believe the Eagles made the Titans an offer then withdrew the offer as a rouse to influence the draft order?
If you believe that I’m not wasting anymore time discussing it with you… You have your head up you ass…
I guess it was a smoke-screen last year when Kelly offered the Titans Bradford, two first and their choice of defensive players for the 1st overall pick too? Apparently Kelly didn’t think very highly of Bradford either….
smh worst day ever
You can send me my Draft Day Trade Chart Back Gloomy…
Days like this, put guys like us out of business…
I’ll catch up to you next Year for the 2017 Draft….
Trade Fletcher Cox, he wants too much man. can get some good picks for him. I mean if he backs off some resign him, but it needs to be reasonable. I am good with EE at 8 but I would Prefer trading back to 15 for a 2 this year and a 2 next year. Best player available at 15 Hogan in round 2 if Lynch isn’t the BPA. Unless they can get the #2 lol. I’m all in for the 2nd best player in the draft.
You guys over value cox….the only reason you want to trade him is his contractual situation…but none of you realize that other teams understand his contractual issue more than you do… Trading high picks for a guy on a one year deal or that you will have to pay franchise money too…. Boy that’s not something teams wish to do
I did come up with some other Trade Scenarios Gloomy
Eagles Trade their #8 Pick to the Titans for their #15 and #76 Picks in 2016
and their #3th Round Pick for 2017 Draft
Eagles would now have #15,#76,#77,#79 & #100 in the first 4 Rounds
#15 – CB William Jackson – Houston (6-1 195lbs)
#76 – OT Jerald Hawkins – LSU (6-6 305lbs)
#77 – DE Ronald Blair – App State (6-2 270lbs)
#79 – DT Javon Hargrove – South Carolina St (6-1 310lbs)
#100 – ILB Nick Vigil – Utah State (6-2 240lbs)
The Eagles will resign Cox at some point – there isn’t any particular rush – His agent is the problem because he has other DT clients and is trying to raise all boats by raising Cox’s deal. Howie will wait him out. Doubt the Eagles trade their best player and only defensive impact player. I do think we will trade up to 2 and get our QB of the future. (At which time I will renew my TIX for another 20 years).
“In fact, ESPN reports that Titans general manager Jon Robinson stated that the Eagles were among the teams that made a trade offer to move up to the first overall pick, but that they withdrew their offer earlier this week……”
Well why withdraw it? If they wanted a Qb why take the deal off the table?
Smoke screen…that every one is so focused on the Eagles and the Eagles dont have a second round pick in this draft,
Again…all of the national writers are getting these hot tips about the Eagles wanting a QB…ESPN..all the top guys are getting the word out…”the Eagles really want a QB”
Bullshit!
I’m 90% sure that the Eagles are trying to manipulate the draft…have teams move up in the draft for the Qb’s and let the player they really want slide to them!
The Rams making that desperate move is right in the Eagles plans!
They withdrew it because the Titans said, ” not enough…we have better”
But at least you are acknowledging that there probably was an offer….but you still contend it was just a smokescreen right?? Lol.
What if the Titans GM had said, ” we’lldo it”
You don’t make smokescreen offers.
What a stupid theory.
a – make an offer as a smokescreen hoping beyond hope the other team does not accept??
yes or no Putz?
“They withdrew it because the Titans said, ” not enough…we have better”
But at least you are acknowledging that there probably was an offer….but you still contend it was just a smokescreen right?? Lol.”
Vinniedafoolass!
How do we know that the Eagles made an offer, how do we know that the Titans General Manager actually said anything to reporters about an ‘offer’…so no dumb ass…we can not acknowledge the probability of anything. It is very common during this time of year that teams lie, send out false public messages, smokescreens…all of that is common during every draft season and this year the Eagles are probably playing it more than other years…
Vinnie you are so far behind…so wrong on everything..its pathetic…
You’ve fallen and you cant get up…your beat down…you’ve been exposed and humiliated…take a break…you need it bad buddy!
” have other teams move up and take the abs….”
I mean seriously. In what universe do you live where the two Qbs aren’t taken in the top 5 regardless?
Oh wait….2010 I guess…..but I digress.
Wentz and Goff are getting picked at the top of the draft regardless. Trades or no trades. In no way does this trade somehow make a mystery player the Eagles covet fall to them.
Well why withdraw it? If they wanted a Qb why take the deal off the table?
Many are speculating that the Eagles withdrew their offer after Paxton Lynch visited with the Eagles on Monday, but before Carson Wentz visited Wednesday, and before Jared Goff visited today.
Perhaps the Eagles feel Lynch (or someone else) is as good as Wentz, but much cheaper.
The Eagles didn’t have to do a thing to prompt the Rams to move up to the first overall pick. Multiple teams made offers to the Titans, says Robinson…
Look koolbreeze, I agree that Bradford is going to be the starter this coming season. I have never disputed that…. I don’t like it, but I have come to accept it… What I also accept is the fact that the owner has made it clear that the Eagles are in search of a franchise QB…..
So, I’m quite sure Eagles will draft a quarterback. The only question is who and when…
Wow. What an exclusive. I just found video of what Roseman was doing on his year long “sabbatical” in 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiAdGX2CNic
Browns have to be licking their chops for Offers..
I don’t really think a Team is going to bowl them over with a Deal like the Rams did with the Titans who would have been stupid not to jump all over the Rams offer.
49ers & Eagles will now have to go to their Draft Plan of B & C and go with the Best Player Available
I am not sure if QB’s Goff/Wentz are worth moving up for or not as we will find out in the long run., but certainly these other Position Players that are ranked in Top 10 (Tunsil, Ramsey, Bosa, Mack, Buckner, Stanley & Elliot & Hargreaves) are not worth trading any future assets or Draft Picks to Select… The Eagles Best Bet is to wait and see whose there at #8 which will likely be Stanley, Elliot & Hargreaves & Lynch and take the BPA..
Trading Down from 8 will be unlikely and difficult to achieve as the Demand will likely not be very strong since the next group of QB’s are really see as mid to late 1st Rounders at Best.. There are no real WR’s worth moving up for either
I think you might see Wentz slide now. I think the Rams are taking the California boy, and I think Goff was Cleveland’s favourite too.
This stuff cracks me up. You guys really just refuse to accept reality. it’s comical.
Once again, it would make NO sense for the Eagles to spend a high pick on a QB when they are clearly hoping Bradford pans out. But keep hoping and dreaming. Believe all the “reports” to make it easier on yourselves.
Well as long as they’re “hoping”
I’m hoping 1986 Elle McPherson walks through he door and my wife says, “this will be fun”. I figure there’s a better chance of that than Sam Bradford “panning out”.
How long should do you think the eagles should keep “hoping” for a QB drafted in 2010 to finally have his “break out??”??
for a guy that was rookie of the year…. having a pro bowl year his fourth year in the league before missing two seasons to injury, then coming back after injury to stuggle for seven games before being a top 10 qb for the final seven? …..I’d say one more year.
and the Eagles agree with me by the way. that’s the reality that you all refuse to wrap your heads around
“rookie of the year”
For god’s sakes. 18 tds and 15 ints.
You know why he was rookie of the year??? His “name” That’s it. And he’s been milking that “#1 overall” moniker ever since….even you have fallen for its allure.
Dez Bryant or ROb Gronkowski should have probably been RoY in 2010 – they were both better than Waterford. Both have had better numbers than Waterford….but didn;t go #1.
Its interesting that you are still enamored with this loser, only because of his #1 and Heisman pedigree, yet seem unaware the power that pedigree has. Its the only reason a dwindling few still think like you do.
Guy wins a trophy a decade ago and you still think it means something.
2010 offensive rookies (first 2 rounds)….
Bradford – blech
CJ Spiller – blech
Ryan Matthews – blech
Jermaine Gresham – blech
Damarius Thomas – missed 6 games with injury ended with 22 catches
Dez Bryant – 45 for 600 and 6tds (better candidate)
Tim Tebow – blech
Jahvid Best – blech
Dexter McCluster – blech
Rob Gronkwoski – 42 receptions 10 tds (better candidate)
Jimmy Clausen – blech
Toby Gerhart – blech
Ben Tate – blech
Montario Hardesty – blech
Golden Tate – blech
I mean what a collection of absolute shit. And you’re somehow applauding that #1 pick Sam Bradford was able to squeak out a RoY against that cavalcade of nothingness (and really, he should have finished 3rd in voting)
LOL
2010 draft was pathetic.
Isn’t that just brilliant.
The only way Wentz and Goff get drafted before number 8 is because they had pre-draft visits with the Eagles.
That’s honestly what some morons in here believe. That’s their theory. That somehow, in the last 6 weeks, Howie Roseman has morphed from a forgotten accountant into the NFLs ultimate power broker with such incredible sway, the any rumour he artfully places with his minions in the media instantly cause other GMs around the league to change their entire draft plan and bow to his wishes.
Howie “the puppet master” Roseman indeed.
You can;t make this shit up!
I tend to agree with you here. Honestly the “reports” that Dallas wanted Wentz had more to do with the Rams upping their trade value more so that the Eagles rumors
or a guy that was rookie of the year…. having a pro bowl year his fourth year in the league before missing two seasons to injury, then coming back after injury to stuggle for seven games before being a top 10 qb for the final seven?
Aren’t you leaving some things out? Like his second year when he was 1-9 and was one of the worse QBs in the league before getting injured… Kellen Clemens, his replacement, out played him in the final 4 games.
Or, how about his 3rd year when he played 16 games and was a below average QBs in every category. The Rams had a great defense that was wasted.
Bradford will be starting for the Eagles next year because they have no better option. Not because they think he is a good quarterback. They will be replacing Bradford as soon as they can. Book it!
This deal was Jeff fishers all the way ..he fleeced the GM Chip Kelly,and just fleeced him again ,as SF was obviously in the mix for number one.He sidled the Eagles by trading a non conditional two for Sam ,when in reality ,he very well might have been released..that’s revisionist history ,but these are the fruits ,of his negotiations.In fleecing Kelly ,fisher likely saved his job and now gets to start anew in LA …that’s (Kool) the end game of the pawn /Sam I am ..the Eagles tried but obviously didn’t have the draft Capital needed .I think they also know Sammy sideways ,will likely be there QB and knowingly felt a dismal season might be a high draft pick going forward and decided it’s too risky ..and held there cards …there was no politicking ,they did there best ,but fell short in there pursuit …If indeed the Goff deal at one is as reported and they truly covet Wentz at two ..it would make sense that they’d sweetened there position by playing possum …now they have one less suitor. For a QB ,and likely will dig in to do a post first round pick if they truly want. Wentz ..if. Indeed they rate Wentz and Goff as both viable ,they’d do an earlier deal ,otherwise,they wait to see who fisher picks…I personally wouldn’t think Cleveland has the balls ,to not get the first QB taken ,so this intrigue will now unfold for certain…
Kool ..you don’t offer things in pursuit of the draft ,and then become labeled as disingenuous ..this is a tough negotiating business,no doubt ,but you also need to perform with some modicum of integrity …smoke screens ,are like tale pipes ,they omit pollutants …your theory is up in smoke
If Sam was the man (in your mind) ..why would the Eagles be doing due diligences ? Crickets……..If the twig stands upright and competes for16 games and wins a playoff game ,he’ll have made himself a lot of money and increases his value to himself and the Eagles ..nobody who bleeds green denies,this very fact ..so let’s see him win ONE big game before we anoint him as. Anything …he’s been unloved by the Rams ,the Eagles and the rest of the NFL (men in suits) …he is what he is Fallback ,plan B or C ..Daniels wouldn’t have been brought in ,as insurance ,otherwise ..so stop trying to prop him up ,when a stiff breeze awaits ..
Things that are clear as day……
1) Eagles are looking for a franchise QB. They would be happy to see Sam be that guy but they are not banking on it.
2) San Bradford is the Eagles starting QB no matter who they draft this year. They are trying to win this year while also giving them a chance to succeed in the long run. He was/is the best option this year. Nothing more, nothing less.
3) The eagles benefit when teams move up to take qb’s. IF…. IF…. IF…. they were not indeed targeting a top qb themselves. THe rest of the players will slide down. Come on guys…. this isnt hard.
4) Vinnie and Kool continue to push themselves away from reality.
If you guys want to debate something… perhaps debate this….
Looking at what the Rams just gave up to move to #1 as a blueprint, would you like to see the Eagles give up a similar package (though obviously its going to be less) to move up to #2? And if so…. who do you want to see the eagles draft at #2? Extra credit points will be awarded to anyone who doesnt say anyone but “shamford” or “waterford” or any other silliness. Try and build YOUR guy up instead of ripping apart others.
As much as I want Wentz, if he got past the Rams I just wouldnt move up to #2 overall as the price would be ludicrous and while i think Carson has the tools to be a stud he just isnt a cant miss prospect worth giving up ur 1 this year and next year let alone some 2nds and 3rds too…
I think that regardless who is left golf or wentz i think tunsil goes 2 for sure. For 1, Browns have a big need at RT and they would be absolutely foolish to draft anyone besides Tunsil but I also happen to think they will get a ton of calls of teams wanting to move up for him over the remaining qb as he is by far the best prospect in the draft…
With that said if Wentz is there and if Howie/Doug want him, Id pass on moving up to 2 and I would gamble that he drops to 5 and if he is there at 5 I try to move up to Jax or 6 with Baltimore for a much more reasonable trade package…
To me it makes no sense to throw away our draft this year and next for a fcs qb. hope he drops and if he doesnt. give up next years draft and the year afters draft for watson
with all that said i just dont see the rams passing on wentz… considering fishers success with the last fcs (and maybe only ) qb taken in the top 5, im thinking he will feel comfortable with wentz. but mcnair was wanted by the top colleges in the ncaa but he chose alcorn for some weird reason
Yea, thanks for your take. Im 100% with you on that.
Stevo please..spare us the rather sanctimonious posturing….
What’s not hard to figure out is that the Eagles are not looking for a franchise QB…they believe they have one in Sam Bradford and they believe in his back up, Chase Daniels if Bradford gets hurt.
“Reality” tells us to follow the damm money!
There was an excellent article in Philly.com by David Murphy who summed this whole thing up perfectly:
“If the Eagles thought there was even a chance that they might make an aggressive play for Wentz or Goff, there’s no way they would have signed Sam Bradford and Chase Daniel to contracts. They would have signed one, and they would have used the remaining money to add to other areas of the roster that might ease a young QB’s transition into the NFL”
Murphy further adds:
If you are the general manager of a team that likes one of these two QBs enough to make him the centerpiece of your plans moving forward, you do not waste the kind of money the Eagles spent on Bradford and Daniel, especially because you will need that money to address whatever position will go unaddressed with the first-round pick and whatever other picks you trade in order to use those picks on acquiring said quarterback. Think about it: The Eagles allocate, what, $18 million in cap space on Bradford and Daniel while reserving their first-round pick for a QB? They don’t have a second-round pick.”
this is the linchpin…what seals it….No second round pick…The Eagles knew they were short money…but they fed the media the story that they really wanted the QB hoping someone would take the bait…and as the Eagles and other teams started feeding the frenzy about these average QB’s….the Rams bit at the bait and took a bad deal!
So here is the bottom line:
1) The Eagles signed Bradford AND Daniels…Bradford is the franchise QB and Daniels is the insurance plan…
2) The Eagles are looking for a third string QB and dont believe that any of these QB are ready to step in right away
3)The Eagles probably want Elliot! it makes more sense to get a weapon like him than a rookie QB
https://youtu.be/VBe_guezGGc
New Eagles Draft Plan
#8 – Eagles Trade Back with the Dolphins at #13 and receive their 2nd Round Pick for doing so… (#42) – The Dolphins Select RB Ezekial Elliot who they love and desperately need with Lamar Miller gone to the Texans & RB CJ Anderson staying with the Broncos)
Eagles Now have the following 5 Selections in the First 4 Rounds (#13,#42,#77,#79 & #100)
#13 – OT Jack Conklin (Mich St 6-6 308lbs)
#42 – DT Kenny Clark (UCLA 6-3 315lbs)
#77 – DE Ronald Blair (App State 6-2 274lbs)
#79 – CB Maurice Canady (Virgina 6-1 193lbs)
#100 – QB Kevin Hogan (Stanford 6-3 220lbs)
Then Eagles use the later Rounds (5th thru 7th) for RB,WR & LB Depth
So if the Eagles traded back down to 13 then the original trade was silly as it would just become the two players for the 2nd round pick. The Eagles would need to get more than just that second round pick. Also, the talk of the 10 identified players in the first round would then be what? No to a trade down, take the BPA at 8, let the 2nd pick go, it will all be forgotten next year…Unless the Eagles use a future to move up this year. I now think they will stay put now and take BPA. No moving up or down.
That makes no sense. Eagles would have just traded for Miami’s 2nd rounder inthe first place.
What still irks me is how the Eagles, for the second year in a row, stupidly tried in their last game, lowering their draft position. Perhaps if they had the 9th spot originally had they lost vs Giants and a second from Mia for Maxwell and Kiko, then they could have had the easy ammo to trade up to #2.
As it stands, I thinkk Wentz will fall to 5 or 6 and I have no problems with the Eagles then trading with Balt or Jax to select him.
If not then Lynch….perhaps after a small trade down to 11 or 12.
Lol..exactly Vinnie, you beat me to it.
ya cant take lynch in the top 20. ya just cant. he isnt a 1st round talent at all. thats like a tim tebow / ej manual pick. Cant do it!!!!!!
The first round never goes the way I think it will, but my feeling is that Paxton Lynch could be the first, second, or third quarterback chosen. I just feel that the fans and draft analyst might be grading him different than the league GMs are. I’m not sure any of the top 3 quarterbacks will be there at pick #8….
Especially now with the tremendous SMOKESCREEN the Eagles have put up… The Eagles smokescreen could drive teams like the Steelers and Green Bay up the board to snatch a quarterback….. lol
paxon wont go before 20, wouldnt shock me if he dropped until the 2nd or 3rd
I too thought about the two consecutive years the Eagles beat a Giants team. And both times ,the game meant-absolutely zero ,as the playoffs were already set .. What is most bothersome about last year ,Jeffery knew he was lopping the head of Chip and had an interim coach in his stead who actually beat coughlin…if chip was destined to twist ,why not wait and start Howies leaks ,distracting the head coach…sometimes the stupidity of there ways is a head scratcher …Kool …I don’t hate any players wearing my green laundry ,I root for them .That stated ,I also watched a lot of football ,and now know that Sam is what. His record says he is ..a first round overall pick that never stayed healthy ,and never allowed himself to exceed expectations …some athletes have no trouble being a top pick ,they thrive and feed off it..Sam cowered ,made excuses and never inspired …he can’t lead and inspire when he’s not healthy ,this is SAMs season ,to show the goods ..I’m not interested in hoping a guy has “it” I’d prefer have a guy who has shown resolve ,toughness ,plays through. “Issues” and makes guys around him better ..id be lying if I said ..that sums up Sam ..hate however ,isn’t. A part of it at all
LOL…up in smoke deserteagle your delusions leave you twisting in the winds of confusion and despair. The LA Rams deal exposed the complete folly of the Sam Haters Club…The Eagles knew from the beginning that they didn’t have the ammo to move up in the draft. While their machinations and leaked ‘insiders’ stuff, sent you into a state of delirium, with no second round picks they have always known that didn’t have it.
The Eagles also know that the Qb’s in this draft are all years away..none of them are step right in and help you win now QB’s at all.
Now, as you see your desperate dreams winding down into bitter disappointment, you too want to shift away in a torrent of unfounded assertions and claims.
The Eagles blew so much smoke to convince people: “we are trying to get Wentz or Goff”…they made sure all of the national reporters had snippets of “inside” information….”Pederson loves Wentz”…Public meetings of them looking at QB’s. Now the Eagles motivation for this is becoming more clear as we go on and its what other execs around the NFL believed…the Eagles were simply helping to stoke the fires and build interest in the QB’s to push other more valuable players to them in the draft.
Deserteagle, Vinnie, and so many others in the “Hate-Sam” crew simply refuse to see the reality. So the hype that comes from the speculation of national talking heads in the form of ‘sources’ or inferences from the Owner’s presence are taking as true implications of the Eagles intent. Whipped up into a frenzy of foolish expectations and desperate hopes, the “Hate-Sam” crew is being skull humped.
Deserteagle, you and your crew have been had and hoodwinked by your own desperate expectations fueled by your hatred of Sam Bradford.
The final curtain will fall on Draft Day
Kool, I don’t know that you can say with 100% certainty that just because the Eagles didn’t get the first pick that it was all smoke. For all you know they are all pissed that they are missing the chance to get the QB of their choice. Maybe the go for the #2 spot.
I’m not a Sam fan. Doesn’t mean I hate him, he just isn’t a franchise guy. So if it’s this year or next, at some point we’ll have a rookie/young guy in there. Why not now? Or why not have him sit behind Sam? Sam just isn’t exciting – you know what he is. And while we just don’t know with these new guys, compared to Sam, I’d take the “I don’t know”.
The Eagles knew from the beginning that they didn’t have the ammo to move up in the draft.
The Eagles had as much or more ammo as the Rams. They were moving up from #8, the Rams had to go up from #15. That difference is worth a second rounder.
The Eagles blew so much smoke to convince people: “we are trying to get Wentz or Goff”…they made sure all of the national reporters had snippets of “inside” information….”Pederson loves Wentz”
I heard all the same things about Ezekiel Elliot…. Does that mean they are trying to drive people up to pick Elliot too?
In fact, the Eagles have done such a good job of claiming their love for Elliot that 95% of the mock drafts have them picking Elliot at #8….
That right there makes your smokescreen theory look ridiculous… The Eagles smoke fooled all the NFL GMs, but not the armature mock draft folks who all project the Eagles drafting Elliot…..
You are really making yourself look stupid by hanging onto the smokescreen BS…
“”” The Eagles smoke fooled all the NFL GMs, but not the armature mock draft folks who all project the Eagles drafting Elliot….. “””
Hahaha.
Oldschool, What’s funny is that this guy never acknowledges a point that proves him wrong… He will come back with some off-point BS about Nick Foles or something….
I just think its beyone ridiculous that 6 weeks ago Kooltwit was continually and constantly rippin “Howie the accountant” saying he didn’t have any football acumen, was only a bean counter and that the Eagles required a “football guy”
Now suddenly he’s portraying Howie “the puppet master” Roseman as some sort of mythical NFL GM with such inate football acumen tht he can somehow manipulate the entire NFL draft to his liking.
Grand Emperor Roseman on his throne behind the curtain manipulating not only all his minions in the media, but also every other NFL GM so that, when his grand scheme comes to fruition, the entire NFL draft will align to his wishes.
From “Howie the Accountant” to Howie “the puppet mastermind” in a few short weeks!
Its laughable.
It wasn’t until Eagles/Roseman Re-Signed Sam Bradford that Koolbreeze fell back in love with Roseman and how he’s now shaping and controlling the Entire Draft and NFL..Before Roseman Signed Bradford, he was a Pencil-Pusher who didn’t know NFL Talent…
We all understand the Passion about our Hometown Teams but you have to remember that all the other Teams and their Front Offices are Paid to Win Games and Championships too.. Typical Koolbreeze…
NEW SMOKE SPOTTED IN SOUTH PHILLY
Ohio State RB Ezekiel Elliott said he feels the Eagles are showing the most interest in him at this point.
Elliott is on ESPN’s campus Friday. The Eagles swapped first-round picks with the Dolphins last month, moving up five spots from No. 13 overall to No. 8. It still might not be high enough to nab Elliott, but Philadelphia has been heavily rumored to be interested in a possible trade-up. It may have to jump Dallas at No. 4 overall to secure Elliott. If he does end up falling to No. 8, we think the Eagles would run the card to the podium with Elliott’s name on it.
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Source: James Walker on Twitter
Apr 15 – 12:38 PM
EAGLES ARE TAKING A KICKER , THEY JUST TRYING TO THROW EVERYONE OFF THE SCENT BY TALKING ABOUT QBS RBS OTS CBS
anyone who believes there are 10 Impact/Playmakers in the Draft is not being honest.. There’s about 3-4 of them and that’s it…
Drafting anywhere from about #6 to #15 Selections lots and there is little difference in the Talent Pool..
This is a very Meat & Potato’s Type of Draft with the Strength & Depth along the DL & OL and then weakens out from there
Says the man who admittedly watches very little if any college football ….
I guess your definition of impact/playmakers has to be in question.
If Browns Take QB at #2 or Trade out to another Team for a QB
Then OT Laramy Tunsil drops to #3 (Chargers) , #5 (Jaguar) or no Lower to #6 (Ravens)
OT R Stanley, DE Buckner & RB Elliot will likely all be on the Board at #8
u keep saying that paul but its not true. this draft has more talent in the top 10 than last years.
I disagree Mhenski about the 2015 Draft which was not very Deep either
but still a more Talented Class than 2016 from Top to Bottom…
2015 Top 10 Selections – W Justice, M Mariota,D Fowler,A Cooper,B Scheff, L Williams, K White,V Beasley,E Flowers & Todd Gurley
The Top 2 QB’s last Draft J Winston & M Mariota are much further advanced and developed than either Goff/Wentz are
Top WR A Cooper has an Outstanding Rookie Year and was a difference maker all Year long
Top RB T Gurley Won ROY and only played in the last 12-13 Rams Games
Top DT Leonard Williams for the NY Jets had a very good Rookie Season
Top OL Brandon Scherff helped Solidify a major weakness for the Redskins as they Won the NFC East
Top OLB Vic Beasley had a so-so Rookie Season with the Falcons and is basically a 1 Trick-Pony in Rushing the Passer from the LB Position
If LB Dante Fowler and WR Kevin White didn’t sustain Season ending Injuries before the Summer even Started then who knows who good
the Top #10 Class could have been…
The Only Reach was at #9 with OT Ereck Flowers by the Giants who played Flowers at LT when hes best suited for RT because of necessity since the Giants had no better options which is not Flowers fault..
The Projected Top #10 2016 Class of Goff,Wentz,Tunsil,Ramsey,Bosa,Jack,Buckner,Elliot,Stanley & Hargreaves is just not as Talented as last Years Top #10
To the people who pay attention to the draft… with two QB’s going early (presumably) and a couple of impact defensive players is there any chance that Tunsil falls to 8???
No he won’t drop to 8. 3 at worst. He is the best player in the draft
That was what Kool was suggesting yesterday after the Eagles pulled a fast one on everyone (according to him). I think that he may slide but not too far. If he gets to 4-5, I think that you will see some teams trying to move up to get him and I think that the Eagles should be one of those teams.
Ridiculous…The Eagles are simply doing what a lot of teams do during the draft…misdirection and the reality is that all of you in the Sam Bradford haters club are so damm desperate you can’t accept that the clear plan is for the Eagles to try and win next year with Sam Bradford…and if he gets hurt…Chase Daniels will step in…
The smokescreen, the fake out is what you guys in the “Hate Sam Club’ have you bought into says the Eagles are desperate for one of the QB’s…despite the money they spent on Bradford and Daniels, despite their other needs at running back and offensive line or cornerback…you are all moved by the desire to get rid of Bradford so you are sucked into the hype machine that the Eagles AND other teams are selling about the Quarterback position! The Eagles have fed the hype machine…they are not the ONLY team that is feeding the hype machine.that happens every year…they are simply playing a big role in it this year!
However, you simpletons out of pure desperation want to distort my contentions…I didnt say that the ONLY reason the Rams moved up was because of the Eagles smokescreen efforts. One obvious reason they moved up because of a previous smokescreen the Eagles pulled off on them…the trade of Nick Foles…that was a disaster for them…and now they are trying to fix it..
LMAO…some of the claims here are ridiculous…the desperation, the foolishness…once again…none of these QB’s in this draft are an Andrew Luck, a Mariotta, a Winston….ready to step in and be a franchise QB…they are projects that can fall flat on their faces…anything the Eagles can do to help the hype machine and sell these QB’s as top ten prospects and then have other teams ahead of the Eagles grab these QB’s up will give the Eagles more options on legitimate top ten talent!
Ezikiel Elliot has come out stating that the Eagles is the team showing the most interest in him. It is being reported on PFT, BGN, and local sports sites. Smokescreen!!! Howie is using Ezikiel to drum up more interest to get teams interested to trade up…further pushing more desirable players down to 8. Howie…you ol’ sly GM/accountant/bean counter/lawyer.
Howie has got those puppet strings working overtime on ‘Ole Ezekial. Elliott just another in a long list of those under the sway of the most powerful and influential GM in the league.
All part of the master plan!
Elliot’s Group is Blowing their own Smoke for he has publicly stated that he would love to Play and Run for the Cowboys….
and I am praying the Cowboys select him too. They can have him.
I am praying that Myles Jack drops to the Eagles at 8.
The trade Bradford, Barwin, Ryan Matthews and 2 future #1”s in 2017, and 2019 to the Jets for their 2016 #1, Sheldon Richardson, and their 2016 #3.
Trade that pick down for 2 more 2nd round picks and drafting Noah Spence with that pick in the 1st.
DeVontae Booker, and Jaylon Smith with the #2’s
LeRaven Clark, Karl Joseph, and Vadal Alexander with the #3’s
4th – Ronald Blair, and Maurice Canady
5th – Jacoby Brissett, and William Houston- Carson
6th – Antowoine Williams
The NY Jets cannot fit Bradford,Barwin & Matthews combined $33 Million worth of Salaries under their own Cap..
I do like all the Draft Picks & Players that you have listed
That’s why they give up Richardson, and cut some players to accommodate those players. They’re already talking about trading Wilkerson, which would shed some salary as well,. Completely doable.
and it’s not 33 million in immediate salary – that’s all incentive laden to max the potential of their contracts.
Bradford has 22 guaranteed over 2 years – 11 million base salary
Barwin makes 6 million, and Matthews makes 3.6 million – That’s $20.6 million – not $33 million.
Jaylon Smith is a tremendous talent…if healthy. It is being reported that he most likely will not play in 2016. I have serious concerns about the level at which he will be able to play at if and when he does return. The Jaylon Smith pre injury does not appear to be the same J Smith post injury…and I do not know if he ever will be. I would not draft him…to much of a medical concern.
Myles Jack had his medical check up. The report was so so, some are ok with his knee, others are still worried. I can’t touch Myles Jack at 8…great talent, but, I can not take that risk.
I’d prefer OT’s Fahn Cooper and Stephane Nembot over LeRaven Clark whose footwork is slow. He will get beat like a drum at Tackle in the NFL. He better be able to play Guard.
If Myles Jack is there at 8 I have to think long and hard about snatching him up…he can make our defense something special!
I would draft Jaylon Smith without hesitation, and I strongly disagree with you Eagle. I don’t think either one of those players are better than LeRaven Clark.
But we’ll see whose right…
Kool, I agree with you on Jack, if I have a guarantee that his knee is 100% healthy and he can be the Myles Jack pre injury. Unfortunately that is not the case. As of his latest medical report this week..there is to much of a question for me to take the risk. In this case I’d prefer to be safe than sorry. Who ever takes the gamble..more power to them.
The idea of having Myles Jack, Jordan Hicks, Myckal Kendricks, Jaylon Smith, Nigel Bradham, and Antwoine Williams as our LB Core would be awesome, and undeniably more talented than what was there last year.
Vinny Curry, Noah Spence, and Ronald Blair bring a lot more to the table in terms of pass rushing talent than Graham, and Barwin show of mediocrity, to below mediocre impact.
That is what may push Jack down to the Eagles at 8 – They can’t pass him up.
I’d rather have him then Ezekiel Elliott, who I think is Trent Richardson 2016.
It’s nice to have Smith and Jack in name, but I have to know they can play on the field at a top peek athletic level before I touch them. If you are strong in all positions, take the gamble, but if you are not and you take them…you better be correct on the medical assessment and projection.
I respect your opinion Eagle, and you’re correct. They have to be healthy to be what I think they will be, but I wouldn’t draft them unless I was sure.
Smith won’t play in 2016, but you get value in drafting him if he recovers for the 2017 season.
This sets us up nicely to address our the strength at OG, OT, and DL in free agency when the cap goes up again.
We resign Fletcher Cox – DT, sign Ziggy Ansah – DE, Larry Warford – OG, and Terron Armstead OT
And go OL, RB, Secondary, and WR in the 2017 draft
1. Roderick Johnson OT- Florida State – 6-7 315
2. Tony Connor CB – Mississippi – 6-0 217
3. Kareem Are OG – Florida State – 6-6 334
4. Corey Davis WR – Western Michigan – 6-3 215 4.51
5. Isaiah Ford WR – Virginia Tech 6-2 215 4.52
6. James Connor – RB – Pittsburgh 6-2 220 4.51
7. Kareem Hunt – RB – Toledo 6-1 225 4.52
I’d also encourage you too take a look at where Faun Cooper, and Stephane Nembot rank on my buddy Walterfootball’s website. It’s obvious who is the better prospect.
LeRaven Clark is ranked 7th; 2nd -3rd round grade, with Cooper, and Nembot ranked 21st, and 22nd respectfully. They are both 6th-7th round picks.
But hey, anything is possible…..
I can not get caught up in Walter..I watched Faun fill in for Laremy Tunsil when he was out..Faun was fine, he can effectively play both LT and RT…he would be a very good RT. Stephane is a project and is raw, but his size, athleticism and power is NFL caliber. He just needs coaching…true diamond in the rough late round pick. Keep these guys names in mind.
I will add another clear as day point…. All the agents and players will say whatever they can to raise their own stock.
I agree with Stevo…
Johnny Football caught doing Property Damage to Rental Properties to further lower his Value and is Blowing Smoke around the Rest of the NFL so that the Eagles & Roseman can get him on the Cheap
What a bunch of haters! LMAO!
First, dumb asses…its common during the draft for teams to to flood the airways with misinformation..the Eagles efforts are not strange at all…but as many more keen analysis have stated…
“Follow the Money” The Eagles money has already spoken for the QB position and the evidence is clear…Plan A-Sam Bradford is the franchise QB and if he gets hurt, Chase Daniels is Plan B…and the Eagles will draft a QB later in the draft as a Third string to develop and this is what the Coach is on the record as saying…everything else is bullshit..rumors, ‘sources’ say…
It doesnt make sense the money has already spoken for the Eagles…
“I heard all the same things about Ezekiel Elliot…. Does that mean they are trying to drive people up to pick Elliot too?
You are stuck in a linear thought pattern that prevents you from looking at situations carefully. Ezekiel Elliot makes more sense than the Quarterbacks, Irish! …The Eagles need a running back, Elliot is a legitimate top ten talent as opposed to the Quarterbacks-Wertz and Goff-who I say again…are vastly overrated and are not franchise Quarterbacks.
I am confused with your post koolbreeze, what does follow the money mean? Is there a cap on the amount a team can spend on a position? And can you clarify when you say Wertz and Goff are vastly overrated, can you tell me how you arrived at this conclusion ? Virtually everybody who gets paid to evaluate prospects disagrees with the statement that they are overrated and a team just gave their first 2 days worth of draft picks for the next 2 years for one of those qbs so I am curious how you came to the conclusion they are overrated.
I look forward to your reply. Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Curious in Colwyn
rootdown it is pretty simple…
My “Follow the Money” argument is best articulated by David Murphy in his recent article on Philly.com -“Yo, the Eagles are not going to trade up and draft a Qb” where he says the following:
“Are the Eagles looking to make a play up the board to draft a Quarterback of the Future?
No. Hell no.
It makes no sense. Unless Howie Roseman and Pederson are the two least rational people on the planet, everything that they have done thus far this offseason tells us that there is a ZERO percent chance that they are planning to make a play for Wentz or Goff. And everything we know about Roseman tells us he is the opposite of irrational. You do not survive as long as he has without being an extremely cold, calculating, meticulous decision-maker.
So . . . no. Hell no.
If the Eagles thought there was even a chance that they might make an aggressive play for Wentz or Goff, there’s no way they would have signed Sam Bradford and Chase Daniel to contracts. They would have signed one, and they would have used the remaining money to add to other areas of the roster that might ease a young QB’s transition into the NFL. That alone eliminates virtually any rational scenario in which the Eagles are secretly plotting for either Wentz or Goff. Forget about everything else.
If you are the general manager of a team that likes one of these two QBs enough to make him the centerpiece of your plans moving forward, you do not waste the kind of money the Eagles spent on Bradford and Daniel, especially because you will need that money to address whatever position will go unaddressed with the first-round pick and whatever other picks you trade in order to use those picks on acquiring said quarterback. Think about it: The Eagles allocate, what, $18 million in cap space on Bradford and Daniel while reserving their first-round pick for a QB? They don’t have a second-round pick.”
Comparing Wentz, Goff to recent prospects
It’s easy to get lost in the excitement of a draft class, especially when it comes to quarterbacks. With teams like the Browns and Rams so desperate for a franchise-saving passer, all promising quarterbacks rise to the top of the board and, for the Rams especially, so did their goals for the draft class.
“But just how good are Wentz and Goff compared to other recent quarterback options? It may not be unanimous, but it’s hard to imagine NFL or non-NFL scouts putting Wentz at or above Jameis Winston or Marcus Mariota’s level of prospect. Neither Wentz nor Goff has the college film to put them in the echelon of Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III or Cam Newton, either.”
I’m not saying that these guys are definitely busts…they may be good to great…but its not a slam dunk…and so while everyone concentrates on the good traits of a Division AA QB who doesn’t have much football experience only a season and a half and one that several scouting reports have said about Wentz:
“With discomfort moving on from his first read and his starting experience being limited to a season and a half, a lot of Carson Wentz’s value is projection based.”
When you move up from Division AA to the big time NFL…not moving from that first read can be a problem…others have cited how this ‘discomfort’ leads him to running too much!
As to Goff, “Jared Goff is coming out of college with a lot of experience, but in a system that strips power from the quarterback both before and after the snap. Goff also had a losing record as a starter (14-23). Goff is a fairly smart passer that was able to run his offensive system to maximum efficiency. If Goff sees something from the defense that’s unexpected, he has a tendency to force his throw anyway. The other chunk of poor play is rooted in questionable decisions under duress.”
Both of these QB’s in last years’ draft would not be rated as high as Teddy Bridgewater…the would be late first rounders or early second rounders….by many accounts…In my view these guys are overrated based on the combine, workouts and a lack of real QB prospects
David Murphy the former mlb reporter and current columnist ? So ur 2 sources I’ve ever seen you quote is a mlb guy that’s now a columnist and some random from the uk. U will get much more information if you start reading the national FOOTBALL guys that have a clue
Or better yet, watch the games and the players, then form your own opinion based on your own analysis. Seriously kool, you never discuss college football or the players during the college football season. You start talking about guys that gets pub leading up to the draft. Watching youtube clips and reading about player strengths and weaknesses is not a good way to judge or project college to NFL talent….just sayin!
Let’s be real guys. No one knows what’s going on, only the individual teams’ front offices do. Every year a bunch of pencil pushers claim to know what every team is thinking or planning but are usually wrong. It’s all just opinions and conjecture.
I don’t claim to know what the Eagles are doing but I would sincerely hope that my team is not so moronic and poorly run that they would let it be known that with metaphysical certitude that they are interested in any one position or player to the degree that this story has reached.
I would hope that this is a “smoke screen”. Whether or not it pushes players down is irrelevant. I’m more concerned that our business is in the streets so to speak. With that said it is simple mathematics. The two QBs were not considered in the top six prospects at the end of the college season which is really what counts. Now that they are, especially if they go top 2: that then pushes one of those true top 6 players right into our lap. This is what I hope happens regardless to whether howie manipulated the press or not. I do not want to burn a top 8 pick on a qb that may not play for two years. Do you?
“I do not want to burn a top 8 pick on a qb that may not play for two years. Do you?”
Hell NO…or a Qb who may not play at all because he has been overrated.
Excellent point concrete_marley…the ‘smoke screen’ stuff is simply what happens before every draft. Teams jockeying for position, trying to trick the other teams…Howie the Accountant is not doing anything special…we cant evaluate him until after this draft and see what he gets…
So in 2014 you evaluated Johnny drunk as being a top pick and wanted the Eagles to trade up and get him. Everyone had concerns about him but you went against the scouts and gms and declared him as having it and he busted. You went against them again when you wanted taj boyd.
Now in 2016 you evaluated wentz & goff and disagree with all the scouts and gms and declare them reaches.
Last year you believed the hype and thought we were moving up to 1 to get Marcus and believed all the reports and made no mention of smoke.
Yet this year all the reports are false and it’s only smoke.
You despised and sulked when the Eagles were winning with foles and cheered and loved the Eagles losing with Vick and bradturd.
I can only conclude you assess exclusively with your heart and exclude statistics, experts analysis’, results and video evidence.
And your heart focuses on players rather then the team and their wins & losses.
I stay away from LB Myles Jack completely at #8..
I don’t trust his knee and although hes a freakish Athlete, he’s still very Raw
and not a very Natural,Instinctive LB…
I would rather SDelect one of the Top DT’s at #8 instead of taking a gamble on a Injured player like Myles Jack
DT’s Sheldon Rankins, Andrew Billings, A’Shawn Robinson, Jaran Reed
DE’s Deforest Buckner or Shaq Lawson or Kevin Dodd
Do note that Fletcher Cox and Bennie Logan both will be coming into their
Contract Years next year and will be eligible for Free-Agency after the 2016 Season so the Eagles need to plan on replacing 1 of these Players plus they need to bulk up the middle with more Depth anyways .. I rather have 8-9 Good Defensive Lineman who will rotate more often and be needed more over a course of a Game or a Season than having 6-7 LB’s like Cliff has listed as there are lots of Downs where only 2 LB’s are on the Field as more DB’s are needed for Pass-Coverage.. I rather have my Pass-Rush primarily come from my DL instead of Blitzing LB’s ..
which again why a good pickup here would be Buckner who can play inside or outside! He would be very good next to Cox in passing situations!
I would take Jaylon smith in the third round if he is still there. Stash him away for the future
Ian rappaport reports Browns eager to trade out of 2nd pick ..Eagles most likely suitors..more smoked salmon
Yup and Jason la too
CBS Sports’ Jason La Canfora reports the Browns’ desire to trade out of the No. 2 overall pick has “intensified” since the Rams moved into the No. 1 overall position.
La Canfora is one of the NFL insiders who believes Cleveland prefers Cal’s Jared Goff over North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz, and that the Rams will draft Goff. “Goff is and was the Browns’ guy,” La Canfora tweeted. If the Browns are desperate enough to move down, it’s possible the No. 2 pick could go for a slight discount. That could benefit the Eagles, who are known to covet Wentz.
Related: Browns, Eagles
Source: Jason La Canfora on Twitter Apr 15 – 7:57 PM
Howie just greasing his minions to put out that smoke.
Smoke alarm alert …Kool …
I’ve been touting as you all know ,Cleveland still has a soft landing spot for Sam ….howie would be executive of the year ,moving from 13 to 8 to 2 …and package Sam …this move would explain the chase Daniels signing ,money wise ,as well ..where better should a dog like Bum ford end up ,but the dawg pound…poetic justice
Browns already Signed their QB Reclamation Project for Coach Hue Jacksonwhich is RG3, Now Coevand can still Trade out but they are going to want Draft a Picks, Draft Picks & more Draft Picks…
It will Cost the Eagles #8, #77, #79 Picks in 2016 and the Eagles 2017 1st Round Pick to move up 6 Spots to #2
The Browns are not going to want any Players or Big Contracts in Return
Then Eagles will be forced to Trade Fletcher Cox to someone else to get some Draft Picks back, I sense a deal with the New England Pats for a 2nd & 4th Rd Picks
Paul, Lets make a deal.
If the Eagles don’t trade Fletcher Cox this year…..You don’t post anymore predictions or mocks for 3 years on GCobb.com…….deal????
No Deal GMCliff..
I just think the Eagles will trade Fletcher Cox due to not wanting to Spend $100 + Million to Retain him… I personally would like him to remain an Eagle but I don’t see it worth spending that amount of $$$ for a DT..
Where did you read that they didn’t want to spend 100 million on him??????
They won’t have to spend 100 million on him.
100 million may be the incentive laden potential of his contract but his guaranteed money will probably be in the 50-60 million range on a 4-5 year deal with a 6th option, with a base salary of about 12 million a year.
You keep saying that, but I haven’t read that, or heard that reported anywhere.
Howie has repeatedly stated that he wants Cox to retire an Eagle.
All I’m saying is that If you’re so sure he will – Put your money where your mouth is….
I’m very confident, that he won’t, that’s why I made the wager. Why won’t you accept???….scared????
It’s probably for the best Paul. GCobb.com wouldn’t be the same with out you, because you would definitely lose this one.
We’ll see what Happens Cliff, if Roseman doesn’t feel he can Re-Sign him,Buwith the deal they are comfortable with, then they will attempt to Trade him.. Both sides said they wanted to get this done this Off-Season amd Roseman even publicly said it was a priority and both sides have failed to come to an agreement
The Free-Agent Signing and overpaying by the Jaguars for Malik Jackson has reset and increased the “market value” for DL/DT’s
But is that Howie’s thinking, or your own????!!??!!
You still haven’t given me anything that says he doesn’t want to pay him 100 million incentive laden contract. Other teams have survived paying their own homegrown drafted players. It’s not uncommon.
and they’ll still have money under the cap. They are not strapped by signing Fletcher Cox.
It would be a mistake to trade up for Wentz, or Goff, as neither is a franchise QB.
Peterson may be enamored with him, but I don’t trust his eye for talent. If any QB plays like he did, they can’t really be that good at all.
Cliff, speaking of Pederson’s eye for talent..I know you do not get involved in the Bradford back and forth..but what is your opinion of Bradford as a QB…franchise player?…Average?…below average?..Do you think Bradford can lead Eagles deep into the playoffs with his arm talent overall QB skill?
I’m not as down on Bradford, as others Eagle.
I think he is talented but limited by his own psyche after the injuries, and a lack of supporting cast.
He is a legitimate NFL Talent that can be a starter, and a nice stop gap for the eventual “Franchise QB”, but at this point in his career may be seeing his window of opportunity to really succeed close significantly.
Put Bradford on the Broncos and I bet you’ll see better performances, and consistency with a better supporting cast. The Eagles don’t have one #1 receiver, nor a cohesive Offensive Line, or a significant Pass Rush, which also limit his opportunities to succeed.
Although Football is a team sport the normal line of thought is that the QB lead his team to it’s success – although he doesn’t play Defense. So in the eyes of the many, it’s the QB’s fault that the team can’t reach the ultimate goal.
In many ways Bradford is criticized unfairly – He isn’t the best, but he isn’t that bad either.
Average to slightly above average…..
Pretty fair and sound assessment.
The Eagles should draft Elliot…the running back is the kind of impact player that Bradford has never had in his career…
The Eagles need a bonafide playmaker on the offensive side of the ball…
I don’t think Elliott is everything so many are touting him to be; I see another Trent Richardson situation. Don’t like him at all. His Offensive Line Talent was better than his individual talent; making him look better than he actually is. Buyer beware.
I do agree they need another RB, but my choice would be DeVontae Booker who can bee taken in the 2nd, or 3rd round, allowing the Eagles to address other needs in the 1st Round.
Elliot can catch the ball much better than Trent…he has much better eyes, and he is an excellent blocker…he is a legitimate top ten talent
Elliot will eclipse the record for receptions…thanking check down Charlie at his awards ceremony
Elliot is a beast and the 2nd best prospect in the draft and a better prospect than Gurley was. Rb value has dipped in the drAft no doubt but Elliot is probably the only sure fire safe playmaking stud in the draft. At 8 you can’t miss and with our passed goofs on Watkins Marcus smith agholor ( potentially) and some of the 2nd & 3rd rounders we goofed on we can’t afford any misses with our first 3 picks this year. We need to build for the future.
Get wentz if he drops to 5 or 6 or so. If not Elliot. If both r gone get what u need in a tackle CB de …
All of you are wrong about Ezekiel Elliott. I heard the same thing when Richardson was ranked so high – and shouldn’t have been…..
Look for me to remind you of your getting caught up in the hype by year 2 – just like Richardson. Him being able to catch the ball out of the backfield won’t make him any better than Richardson; He caught the ball out of the backfield too resulting in 1300 yards his rookie year….so what.
Elliott will be the next in the long line of overrated NFL Prospects to come into the league, and not live up to expectations.
Just because Doug Pederson was not a very talented QB himself means absolutely squat on whether he can evaluate NFL Talent or Not..
That has to be one of the stupidest things I’ve seen you post Cliff.. Really…
I don’t think it’s stupid at all.
I don’t even trust him as our coach.
What talent have you seen him speak highly of?? ….Chase Daniel??…now Wentz??…I would be very careful to temper my confidence in his opinion.
Whether he can evaluate talent is going to be revealed real soon, and we’ll see who is stupid.
A typical ignorant response by you Cliff, just because you didn’t like the Doudg Pederson Hiring to begin with you are going on record that he has no eye for NFal Talent andagwinyiu base this because he was a mediocre NFL QB with a limited Skill Set.. You Stste this with certainty when you have no clue or record to base thisOffense of.. Typical ignorance Which some could take as racism by you..
Yup, that’s what I think!!
You know me Paul, You know I give less than a darn what someone else thinks bruh. Those comments don’t effect me.
Only a weak minded, indecisive individual would cower under those comments. I don’t know how racism comes into the picture, but…….
The coach I wanted was white. I have a child by a beautiful white woman. Yeah I can see why you would say that…….but please bruh spellcheck…
Lol cliff welcome to the racist club. Paul is now added to the list of Kool dolo and Jon hart who call people racists with absolutely no basis… So strange
The trump train has entered GCobb station
I believe the trump train has a permanent station in Boone…lunatic fringe.
I think cliff is a complete whacko…. I think he and reality hardly ever cross paths but to throw the R card at him was one of the dumbest (and there are many examples) things fraud has ever said.
I know the reality of things is that there has been no one – especially you – that has come even close to being consistently accurate on who are the players, and who are the pretenders in terms of incoming prospect year after year.
It’s okay to call me wacko, but make sure you recheck your history since 2006, and just call me realistically correct more consistently than you, or any one else on this blog for the last 10 years…..something you could NEVER say.
LOL!!! You know what I mean Big Mhenski….smh
pman you should be one of the few guys on here that throws around the term ‘ignorant’..There has been very few statements that can match the sheer stupidity of your suggestion to trade Fletcher Cox. This ranks high on the list of dumb comments on GCobb.com for 2016..
Kool. Talk about “throwing rocks in glass houses ” taj Boyd..
suggesting a 5th round flyer on Taj Boyd for the Chip Kelly system is not as bad as your hankering for us to spend a first round pick on Goff or Wertz..you’ve been skullhumped pretty bad desert…and residue from the humping you’ve gotten has left you clueless
Kool. When the smoke filled rooms around the NFL clear …whom do you suppose will have been snookered into accepting Sammy ?If he’s an Eagle (not for lack of trying to purge him off the roster) his 65% which will now replace number 7 on his green jersey ,will ……be above 8-8 below 8-8 or disabled..your responses please ?
He won’t answer you. I’ve been asking him for days whether or not the Immortal Sam Bradford will pass the Pitiful Nick Foles win total with the Eagles.
He’d need 9 to do it.
But he won’t make a call….its because he doesn’t really believe all the bluster he spouts.
Though I see above he knows all about Ezekiel’s “eyes”
His luster of mr 65% has been greatly tarnished ,as , time ticks down towards the war room …the smoke that encompasses the men in suits ,who have jobs are now in full control..no one truly knows how this will all play out ..that’s the only thing of which we are certain ..And Ezekiel’s 20/20 …as clear as. Sam and his 65%
Kool you said mr 65% is a franchise QB …step out and tell us all his w-l record …his number of games played out of 16 ,and wether he’ll have a statue erected “…America needs to know….interesting reading west coast papers in SF ..chip and GM on different page…like a leopard ..some spots remain un changeable …
LMAO…you dorks
Let me once again explain something…
This is Football not tennis, boxing, or golf
Peyton Manning flat out stunk last year, the main reason for Denver winning the Super Bowl was their defense not him…Nick Foles sucked ass and choked when the Eagles were evaluating him for the job long term…they won games with special teams and defense…he sucked.
Can Pederson coach? Will the defense adapt and improve under Schwartz? Will the receivers lead the league in drops again? Will we have a running game? Will the offensive line be better?
Only dorks and idiots look predict wins and losses based soley on the Quarterback.
Again, both you desert and Vinniedafoolass prove with out a shadow of doubt….you have no football acumen at all.
No. What dorks do is what you are doing. Continually and constantly making excuses for a very flawed player.
D is inportant.
Oline is important.
Coaching is important.
Running and Catching is important.
Kicking is important.
The return game is important.
And….
Wait for it…..
The Quarterback is important. And because it is he who runs the entire offence and has the ball in his hands every single offensive play……
He is the…..
Wait for it…..
MOST important.
Only dorks like you fail to acknowlegdge that.
Nor do you acknowledge that the Eagles QB sucks.
Well, actually you do acknowledge it with your complete and utter silence on Bradford’s projected win total.
Asked now by 2 different people, you still won’t commit to Bradford leading the Eagles to a measly 8 or 9 wins.
So harp all you want on how great Bradford is, or how the Eagles love him or yada yada yada….because its all hollow. You don’t believe it yourself, less you would have come out with a simple “yes”
So shut up already about Bradford, you’ve already announced he can’t lead the team to 9 fucking wins.
No dorks watch the super bowl by themselves and write on gcobb dot com the entire game
no dorks rant and rave over porn and spend most of their time alone with a bunch of pervert crap and are simply racist lames with 8-9 profiles
Nah I know ur definitely not the brightest in here but Google the definition of dork and you will see that my example of a dork fits perfectly while yours does not. You fit dork to perfection:
a silly, out-of-touch person who tends to look odd or behave ridiculously around others; a social misfit:
That’s you in a nutshell.
Silly – no explanation needed everyone here agrees
Out of touch and ridiculous – yep that’s you
Social misfit – yep you as indicated by nobody ever agreeing with you or respecting your opinion and as demonstrated by you not having any friends whatsoever and you had to watch the Super Bowl alone with cyber people.
You’re a dork man. Just buy a clue and have some self awareness
LMAO…
“The Quarterback is important. And because it is he who runs the entire offence and has the ball in his hands every single offensive play……”
Dumb ass!! no kidding he has the ball in his hand every single offensive play…so does that mean when he throws it he should catch it too? Does that mean when his offensive line is getting their ass kicked he should block too? Does that mean when he hands the ball off to the running back…he should open up a running lane by blocking the linebacker that’s blitzing through that the offensive lineman missed?
Every lame ass, tired, and worn out cliche about Quarterbacks are in play with Vinniedafoolass and the Sam Haters club.
Here’s a tip Vinniedafool…again…its not tennis, boxing or golf…its Football and its easy to see what goes wrong with a TEAM. Offense is ONE aspect of the team…but there is also something called Defense, and something else called Special teams.
They have something to do with wins and losses too Idiot ass fool~!!!
Holy shit.
Could you please send me the names of all your grade 3-8 teachers? Because at this point there’s a potential lawsuit in the works.
“its Football and its easy to see what goes wrong with a TEAM. Offense is ONE aspect of the team…”
Uh…ya….shit for brains….that’s why I wrote:
“D is inportant.
Oline is important.
Coaching is important.
Running and Catching is important.
Kicking is important.
The return game is important.
And….
Wait for it…..
The Quarterback is important.”
you missed that bit? Again, are you that stupid, or are you pretending to be that stupid?? Which is is dork?
Holy shit.
Could you please send me the names of all your grade 3-8 teachers? Because at this point there’s a potential lawsuit in the works.
“its Football and its easy to see what goes wrong with a TEAM. Offense is ONE aspect of the team…”
Uh…ya….shit for brains….that’s why I wrote:
“D is inportant.
Oline is important.
Coaching is important.
Running and Catching is important.
Kicking is important.
The return game is important.
And….
Wait for it…..
The Quarterback is important.”
You missed that bit? Again, are you that stupid, or are you pretending to be that stupid?? Which is is dork?
BTW – how many wins dork??
Why the hell do you keep defending a QB who you yourself do not believe can lead the Eagles to a pathetic 8 wins??????????
LMAO…
Vinnie I understand…really I do!
It just sucks being a dumb ass idiot like your are…
Your always wrong…
Everything we argue about…you turn out wrong:
Wrong about Kevin Kolb
Wrong about Mike Vick
Wrong about Nick Foles
Wrong about Sam Bradford
Vinnie you keep descending to new levels of pure stupidity and ignorance
You must keep a permanent headache you confuse yourself so much…you contradict yourself so much…you are incapable of formulating a logical thought. As result, you rush into impetuous, nonsensical positons that are always wrong. ..
Now since all of your predictions are wrong and all of your claims have proven to be ignorant…like a crab in a barrel you want to drag me into your ignorant predictions, your rushed assessments…desperately looking for something, anything to grasp…to avoid further humiliation and embarrassment..
You rush to judgement…you thought you had the Eagles all figured out…you had your stats you hated Bradford…so you rushed to judgement about what the Eagles would do…foolishly predicting that Sam would be allowed to “walk”…On the deadline of the franchise tag…once again in a foolish rush to judgement….you thought you had a win…The Eagles didn’t franchise Bradford-remember your foolish talk about ‘crickets’…as soon as you pushed the ‘post comment’ button the Eagles had a deal sealed with Bradford and you were once again stuck on stupid!
What I am going to do before making any predictions about the Eagles is see how they improve in the areas they were lacking, look at training camp, see who they draft…this is consistent with the understanding that Football is not tennis, boxing, or golf…its a team game.
So take your sorry ass, lame demands for predictions elsewhere Fool ass Vinnie…your already cooked…you are already done dumb ass!
I told you that Sam Bradford will be the QB for the Eagles in 2016…you said…The Eagles are letting Sam walk…
What happened…Bradford gets the big bucks with the Eagles…you are left wrong yet again..
Now, in a state of pure desperation…you want to drag me into a rushed prediction based on the QB while ignoring every other factor of the team that you yourself acknowledge is “important”
Stupid ass idiot
Vinniedafoolass, I am logically consistent…I have always rejected your ignorant defense of Nick Foles being a good QB and pointing to the Eagles ‘wins’ as proof that he should be signed to a long term deal. I defeated you in that argument as well when you claimed that the Eagles would give the putrid Foles a long term massive deal like Kaepernick.
Wrong again…
The Eagles win-loss record will be based on the play of the team
Brawwwwk Brawwk Brawwk Fraidy cat.
Yes or no??
Oh ….btw
“Wrong about Kevin Kolb
Wrong about Mike Vick
Wrong about Nick Foles
Wrong about Sam Bradford”
I said Kevin Kolb was a better option than Vick, especially since Buffalo was offering 2 firsts for the pretender Vick”
Correct
I said Vick sucks.
Correct.
I said Foles was better than Vick.
Correct.
I said Foles showed promise and Eagles should sign him to a team friendly “Kapernick type deal”
Correct.
I said Bradford sucks.
Correct.
Move on dork who will not even commit to Bradford winning 8 games.
Just shut the fuck up about Bradford already – you don’t even think that check down shoulder slumped pussy can win 8 games.
You won’t even commit to 8 you fucking pussy….so STFU about a QB you do not even think can lead the Birds to .500.
Dork.
LMAO!!!!
CTFU….oh this is too rich..
Your killing me Vinnie…your ignorance has reached comedic levels of absurdity
“I said Kevin Kolb was a better option than Vick, especially since Buffalo was offering 2 firsts for the pretender Vick”
Only a complete idiot would continue to attempt to defend the worthless Kevin Kolb. He is one of the absolute worst QB in Eagles history, a guy who was petrified by a pass rush..
Vinniedafoolass…you are that complete idiot
“I said Foles was better than Vick. Correct.
I said Foles showed promise and Eagles should sign him to a team friendly “Kapernick type deal”
Wrong, Wrong, Dead Wrong
You were wrong and your still wrong. Vick and Foles went head up for the job..I told you Vick would win in head to head, you foolishly picked Foles…Vick kicked Foles ass and won the job.
You were dead WRONG
Then when Vick got hurt and Foles came in against some of the worse teams in the NFL and played reasonably well…he got his shot the next year..Foles fell apart, choked under pressure and like an idiot you predicted that the Eagles would to sign the pathetic Foles to a long term-Kaepernick like deal when he clearly was not close to being worth it.
Foles proved you were WRONG Vinniedafoolass by his horrendous season with the Rams as he was benched in favor of the ‘great’ Case Keenum and now with the Rams acquiring the first pick…there is a great expectation that Foles may be cut.
Nick Foles and Kevin Kolb’s careers are prove that you were dumb, stupid and a complete idiot in your assessments. Mike Vick’s career is a booming success when compared to the failed and pathetic careers of Foles and Kolb. Using your own assessment, Vick has playoff wins under his belt while the pathetic Foles and feeble Kolb have never won a single playoff game. Neither Foles nor Kolb will make it 13 years in the NFL…combined…Foles is finished as a starter in the NFL…he will be lucky to be signed as a backup somewhere…
So once again you were WRONG
On Sam Bradford you were also WRONG again…at first you were embarrassed that Chip Kelly dumped you mancrush after being wrong on the contract extension you foolishly expected Foles to get-so you were WRONG yet again. Then in a desperate effort to save some face, you proclaimed how happy you were because Bradford is ‘”pocket passer instead of a running QB”..this came after Bradford good showing in preseason. At this point, you proclaimed Sam Bradford as your guy…only to Flip-flop on him when he struggled at the beginning of the season.
But once again…what I predicted came true…I said throughout the year
Sam Bradford will get better and that’s exactly what happened…he got better and when it came contract talk time…Vinniedafool, you predicted that the Eagles would let Sam Bradford walk…while I predicted that they would sign him..
Vinniedafoolass, you were WRONG again…
Not only did they sign him…they signed Bradford to a better deal than the “Kaepernick-like deal” you suggested for Foles. Kaepernick’s deal is guaranteed for $12 million….while Bradford can make up to $26 million guaranteed…
Once again…when it comes to Bradford you were WRONG
Over and over and over again…you rush to judgement, you fumble with facts, you stumble with reality, your confused and delusional…
Vinniedafoolass….you are a complete idiot
Kool..football acumen …is a compulation of years of watching the game ..yet,you have dry humped the legs of taj Boyd ,Johnny football ,Michael Vick ,and sham Bumford…I wouldn’t exactly say that makes you …cum laude of the grid iron..who signed your kotitean diploma ?
desert is that why you know so little? You haven’t watched the game enough? You’ve been dry-humped in the head by Vinnie about Nick Foles and other losers and it turns you into a terrible flip-flopper.
You have to learn how to read situations, learn the game…and for your information I dont have a kotitean diploma but puffing your chest out because Rich Kottite personally signed an autograph for you~that you are now waving around as your “diploma” is not proof that you know the game buddy.
I’ve been told by my sources that Paxton lynch is actually who the Eagles want. They will stay at 8 and take lynch stay tuned.
Hey diddy,
I’m hearing Eagles Trading back with the Titans to get their #15 & #45 Picks
Then Select QB Lynch or OT Conklin or CB Eli Apple at #15 in that order based on who is still onthe Board
Then they use #45 Pick for one of the 2nd Tier QB’s if ally Lynch is already gone
All come on diddy you SOLD me on Elliott…. Let’s have positive thoughts here!!!!!!!!!
Elliott is going at 4 per my source, there’s nothing the Eagles can do sum.
Cowboys already have D McFadden , V Dunbar and newly Signed RB Alferd Morris… They are set at RB and Need DL and OLB’s in the worst way as their Def a Front 7 is their weak link
They Need 1 DT, 2 DE and 1 OLB from this Draft .. Good DE’s are hard to find making Bosa, Buckner or LB Jack the Cowboys likely Pick at #4
The Jaguars at #5 have similar needs mostly on Defense
At #6 – The Ravens need OL, DL & RB & WR & CB
Your right pman, I’m back to zeke at eight thanks