Sep 19, 2015; Los Angeles, CA, USA; Stanford Cardinal quarterback Kevin Hogan (8) throws a pass against the Southern California Trojans at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. Mandatory Credit: Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports
There’s been much talk and numerous reports about the Eagles are moving up in the draft and getting one of the top quarterbacks such as Carson Wentz or Jared Goff. Who really knows what the Eagles are going to do, because I have been told by people who are close to the Birds decision-makers that they’re not sure of what they’re going to do in the draft just yet.
The Birds have the eighth pick which means, they don’t know who is going to be there when they make their pick. Even if they want to move up to number one, they can’t be sure what Tennessee will require for them to give up the pick until they make that move.
Earlier this week, NFL reporter Ben Allbright was on the Josh Innes Show on 94WIP said the Eagles aren’t going to move up in the draft to get a quarterback or any other position. He says they’re going to stay put at the number eight spot and pick a quarterback in one of the latter rounds.
Allbright thinks that quarterback is going to be Stanford’s Kevin Hogan, who is a tremendous athlete who needs to correct his throwing delivery, which is considered much too long. He’s also not the most accurate passer, which needs to improve. He’s got size at 6’4″ 220 pounds and good straight ahead speed, but Hogan doesn’t have good quickness or the ability to make good tacklers miss.
“They were very enamored with Hogan, the quarterback out of Stanford in the later or mid-rounds,” Allbright said. “Think they can get him and make him a project since they’ve got Chase [Daniel] and they’ve got Sam [Bradford] on the roster for a year or two. They think they can work on him and make him something. So look at Kevin Hogan, might be a mid-round guy.”
Hogan has a gun of an arm. He’s very bright, which will allow him to master an offense in due time. He has shown he can get the job done under pressure in big games and the guy is a winner.
Hogan is expected to go in the third to fifth round, but you know when the draft gets near, NFL player personnel people and head coaches get quarterback fever. Quarterback prospects look better and better the closer the draft gets.
As for the Eagles and other positions, Allbright alerted us about the Birds have fallen in love with two players at other positions, who are said to be game-changers.
“And then Vernon Hargreaves, the corner, the defensive back there,” Allbright said. “They’re really enamored with him and a worst case scenario is that he falls in their lap at [number] eight [overall] as well, so that’s just another name to keep an eye on.”
“I do know they’re bringing Ezekiel Elliott in for a visit,” Allbright said. “He’s there [Wednesday] and they are definitely interested in Ezekiel Elliott.
“They are scared that the Dallas Cowboys, who have floated both Carson Wentz and Jalen Ramsey rumors lately, could be in the mix for Ezekiel Elliott as well.”
“He says they’re going to stay put at the number eight spot and pick a quarterback in one of the latter rounds. Allbright thinks that quarterback is going to be Stanford’s Kevin Hogan”
Now here is a report that makes sense. We can get Hogan probably in the 4th round, and he would be a nice pick up. Smart kid, needs some seasoning…a kid I dont think is all that much behind Goff or Wertz in talent. Bring the kid in with no major pressure and let him sit on the bench and learn, grow and develop! Who knows maybe in 4-5 years he may be a nice QB or he can turn into trade bait.
koolbreeze
April 13, 2016 – 11:16 pm
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Every reporter seem to know what the Eagles are going to do…
Funny they all have the inside track that the Eagles really want a QB…
But none of them had the same ‘inside track’ on the Eagles resigning Sam Bradford!
Strange indeed…we will find out on draft day…the real deal
Albright…this is the same Albright who made the report about Shady McCoy being guilty and possibly locked up for the fight in the Recess Lounge. He is a Josh Innes guy who I give very little credibility to.
As of now, no reports of the Eagles interviewing either Hargreaves or spending much time with Hogan post combine, working them out or bringing them in. They have more time and space to bring in these guys, but as of now, no reports linking these guys to the Eagles. Kool, you are right about one thing for sure, we will see what happens come draft day. Just two weeks away.
Eagles worked out Kevin Hogan last month when they Visited Cal for Jared Goff, didn’t they spend a Day at Stanford as well with Hogan & their Guard!!
pman you are correct, they did workout at Hogan during a visit at Stanford…along with the Guard Garnett. Due diligence…the Eagles love Wentz, Hogan, Elliot, Hargreaves…..they are going to draft all of them…just shows how ridiculous this all is. We will see. Gotta bring Hogan in for a visit.
I like Kevin Hogan… He’s Smart, Good in the Huddle and a Leader with a Solid Arm…he’s improved his footwork & mechanics during this run up to the Draft working out QB Guru (Danny Weurful) who has shorten up his throwing motion and has made a nice difference of him getting the ball out quicker with more velocity & accuracy..
He will likely be on the Board in the 3rd Round for sure and possibly at #100 at the Top of the 4th ..
I would be fine with the Eagles Selecting Kevin Hoagan as a developmental QB
fraudman, you picked a couple other guys in the later rounds– called me out on who i’d pick and i said hogan… to the best of my knowledge you now have picked every qb available in the draft…
Funny thing is I also see reports of the Eagles trading up to #1 you don’t trade up to 1 for anything but a qb maybe they take 2 this yr..
Allbright states “Who really knows what the Eagles are going to do, because I have been told by people who are close to the Birds decision-makers that they’re not sure of what they’re going to do in the draft just yet”.Then he goes on to definitively say the Eagles are going to draft Kevin Hogan….who he nor anyone knows if he will be there when the Eagles draft in the latter rounds…talk about arguing against yourself. That’s why I can’t take this guy seriously…talk about smoke rising from bullshit being thrown against the wall…lmao!
anything you read about loving this guy, trading this pick is all just to make the nfl a 365 sport.. it is all conjecture, misinformation, end runs, razzle dazzle or put more simply…..BS!!! Kind of like Gloomys posts!!!!
I love these reports which are just opinions by dudes who have some but limited access to the team. I personally love “I am hearing”. There is no accountability for this garbage, so reporters will report anything to get press even if it is really nothing.
Best case scenario for the Eagles is
Wentz falls to 6 Eagles only give up #77 to swap with the Ravens
They then trade cox to the Packers for #27 and 4th and 5th Rd picks
Flip Bradford for Muhammad Wilkerson and a 4th Rd pick
The rams just got the #1 pick smh
I like Hogan as a mid round guy that they give a shot as their guy in this year’s draft. He has as much potential as any of the other guys we have been discussing. I like him much more than Hackenburg and Cook.
Rams just acquired #1 overall pick from Titans. They gave up this years no. 1 (pick 15), both of their 2nd round picks and a third. They will take either Wentz or Goff.
Rams also gave up the no.1 pick in 2017.
gloomy please take note of the details of the trade there was not 1 established player in the mix– no team wants to trade a high draft pick for established players…it isn’t done– pay attention!
well the eagles obviously didn’t have the bullets — no second round pick– the 8 and a second and a third probably would have done it… ok– go sammy!!!
Get your notebook out too havablunt
I told you the Eagles were blowing smoke…driving up the value of the QB’s
Helping push the market up for these QB and they aint worth it…
The Rams bit at the cheese with a dumb ass trade for them…
Now who will this push to us…how about a Jalen Ramsey or Zeke Elliot…maybe Buckner falls to us!
read my posts ( i know that when a post goes against your agenda you become illiterate)– i have said all reports about who anybody likes or whatever are a bunch of BS– i’ve said it since the first mention of the draft on this site– i’ve said all along that they will stay at 8 — i predict stanley but really i (and no one) has any idea who will be there or what grade they put on the remaining players.
Titans & Rams Made a Big Deal
Rams Send the Titans their 1st Pick (#15) both their 2nd’s (#43 & #45)
their 3rd Round (#76) as well as their 1st & 3rd Round Picks in the 2017 Draft
to the Titans for the Overall #1 Pick , 4th Round (#113) & 6th Round (#177)
Rams going after Carson Wentz per all Reports, With their new Move to LA, this was planned from last Year for the Rams Front Office where they were able to get out from Sam Bradford’s Deal and will now likely Trade QB Nick Foles to the Bronco’s for chump change
Eagles will now have to regroup as Carson Wentz will no longer be available
and the Browns will likely take Jared Goff…
This is a Great move by the Titans who need Picks,Picks,Picks and will now have 6 of the Top 76 Draft Picks to Surround QB Mariota & RB Murray with
and the titans will have 2 high number ones next year– theirs and the rams– both teams building around a young qb so it could feasibly be 2 top 10 picks… yikes!
birds draft stanley– or i’m even thinking elliott although i hate backs that high in draft— give sideways protection or a weapon and slump on in with a 9-7 record and hope for the best–
Top 10 Mock Draft with the Big Trade
#1) Rams – QB Carson Wentz
#2) Browns -QB Jared Goff
#3) Chargers – OT Laramy Tunsil
#4) Cowboys – DL Joey Bosa
#5) Jagaurs – LB Myles Jack
#6) Ravens – OT Ronnie Stanley
#7) 49ers – DL D Buckner
#8) EAGLES – CB William Jackson – Houston (6-0 190lbs- 4.37 40 time)
#9) TB Bucs – DE Shaq Lawson
#10) NY GIants – OT Jack Conklin
Hope you are wrong and that they don’t overthink if they go CB and draft combine wonder Jackson instead of Hargreaves there. I would take Apple and probably Alexander before Jackson.
Where’s Jalen Ramsey?
I didn’t even see that Cheese. I figured Ramsey would be gone before 8, but pman doesn’t even have him on his list.
Woops, how could I forget about him… I will have to Re-Do the Top #10
#1) Rams – QB Carson Wentz
#2) Browns – QB Jared Goff
#3) Chargers – OT L Tunsil
#4) Cowboys – DL Joey Bosa
#5) Jaguars – LB M Jack
#6) Ravens – DL D Buckner
#7) 49ers – DB J Ramsey
#8) EAGLES – OT Ronnie Stanley
#9) TB Bucs – DE S Lawson
#10) NY Giants – CB V Hargreaves III
pman…if the board fell like that you have to go either Ramsey or Elliot. I like William Jackson III, but Ramsey has it all over him.
First shoe to drop!!!
Rams desperate for a QB after having a failed Foles..make the deal…move and grab the #1 pick!!!
Its not looking good for you Bradford Haters…LMAO!
So if the Rams grab Wentz who will grab Goff…now
San Francisco…Dallas…Cleveland…
This is big…some major talent may be available for us to grab at 8!!
Who’s gonna grab Tunsil?
Look at what the Rams gave up…wow!!
“15th overall pick in this year’s draft, two second-round picks (43 and 45), and a third-rounder (76) in 2016. The Titans will also receive the Rams’ first-round pick in 2017, along with their third-round pick in next year’s draft.”
Dumb ass move by the Rams!!…But great for the Eagles!!
gotta agree with kool. that was an irresponsible deal by the rams
Yeah, I don’t see how this changes much player availability for the Eagles. I think it was and is pretty clear that Wentz and Goff are going to be gone at 8. I also don’t think that Tunsil will get much further down the list and definitely not to 8.
I do agree that the Rams are now in desperation mode and the Titans did very well.
So the second round pick we gave for that stiff Bradford is part of the deal the Rams made to move up…. We are still taking it up the arse from Chip…
i guess its winless for watson
What a cruel twist of irony. The Rams utilize the pick we gave them, as ammo in a trade to get their franchise qb, presumably for Wentz – a guy the Eagles allegedly wanted to replace the qb we gave the pick up for in the 1st place. Chip Kelley is indeed the gift that keeps on giving.
Hahaha the eagles forced some dumb team the rams to move up, as I knew the eagles did not want these qbs and will take bpa at 8…..go eagles…..oh yea poor wentz no receiver’s
The Eagles “forced” another team??
Anyone who thinks the Eagles “forced” anyone to do anything is an idiot.
The only iriony is that the only way the Rams were able to do this deal is because they stole an extra 2nd from the Eagles last year for Sammy Sideways.
Pathetic.
Vinnie u are bag of dicks, I guess it’s switched everything you say the opposite is true……go suck a foles dick I heard he’s got nothing to do these days
LMAO @ Vinnie
Your done…finished Vinnie
You like so many fell for the sucker move…
The Eagles pushed the market…with all the ‘sources’ repeatedly talking about how much the Eagles loved ‘Wertz’……how much the Eagles wanted a QB…
The Rams feeling the pressure…gave up TWO second round picks AND a 1 next year..
What a dumb, desperate move and the Eagles helped push it…now that’s one QB…lets start the rumors on how much the Eagles are in love with Goff!
Push more real talent our way…and once again…its clear…like it was clear to me all along…
Sam Bradford is the QB
Book It!!
Still can’t do it. Still cannot commit.
Will the Great Sam Bradford pass the pathetic Nick Foles win total this year?
Kooltwits’s silence screams “no!!”
You can write “book it!!” all you want now Kooltwit. You’ve announced you do not think SB can win 9 games.
I am not sure where KB is getting the Eagles “Pushed the Market” ??
Everyone knows that the Top 2 QB’s in Wentz/Goff are going early in this Draft regardless of what Teams move up to do so it’s not like any additional Players are Dropping down to the Eagles..
When you have the Browns, 49ers,Eagles,Rams all looking for there next Franchise QB’s as well as Teams like the Cowboys,Broncos looking towards the Future at QB.. These 2 Players (Wentz/Goff) were not going to make it Down to the #8 Position.. If Teams really like these 2 QB’s then you have to move up into the Top #3 and now the Top #2 to get any one of them which is what I and most people have been saying since February
Not really I’m sure you can now resign Nick Foles for a bag of footballs as his career has flamed out.
And so, next year, after another miserable 7-9, 8-8, 9-7 season and with another middling 13-17 pick we’ll be back having the same discussion about the same topic next year once again.
Who will be the new Qb of the Eagles.
Good times.
If you don’t love Stanley, don’t want to gamble on Hargraves and Jack is gone why don’t you trade down to 15 with Tenn for a couple of them 2nd and 3rd round picks and take Conklin at 15.
I do think that the Titans will try to move back up, so not a bad idea. If they can get a 2nd round pick and Conklin, I would do that.
The Eagles suckered people…
They helped drive the talk about the QB…you heard it consistently…
“The Eagles really want to move up…”
“The Eagles love Wentz…”
“The Eagles will give up Cox…to move up and get the QB….”
Bullshit…smokescreen…and it worked!
Look at what the Rams gave up thinking they had to beat the Eagles…
TWO second round picks for a overrated, overhyped rookie that simply is not that good…and may be a big bust!
Now lets get the Goff talk going…lets get the ‘we gotta get Goff’ talk going!!
Push the real talent down…
Oh and get over it…
Sam Bradford is the starting QB!
Lol kool 100 right
I’m not even a Bradford fan but the 2nd tier qbs are just as good as the 1st tier in my opinion, and if they took Lynch I would be just find with that as he has more upside then any other QB in draft
Way overvaluing the Eagles role in this trade. More teams than just the Eagles have been all over Goff and Wentz.
Pump the brakes dude.
Maybe so bugs but all we heard was the eagles this eagles that, we definitely helped push the envelope
Of course we heard Eagles, Eagles, Eagles. Consider who we are and where we live.
Dude I’m talking nationally, I live in DC and trust me they are saying the same thing here on every network. Now u are minimizing it
And I am from the west coast transplant, so I keep up on news sources there and there were other teams in on moving up for a QB.
Let me ask you a question. Do you know this was a smokescreen by the Eagles? Do you know that they didn’t want to trade up to take Wentz? If you can’t answer these questions with certainty, then you are lending to much credence to a theory that you and Kool have. For all we know they really wanted to move up to #1, but got outbid.
They are still obviously not comfortable in their QB situation since they paid $7 million a year to a backup and they have worked out almost every qb in the draft. That is the most elaborate smokescreen that I have ever seen.
Dude are you for sure it wasnt a smokescreen, no you can’t so you say they paid a back up 7 mill, yea to protect themselves because Sam is fragile as shit, and maybe just maybe they think 2nd and 3rd Rd qbs are just as good or can be as these guys wentz and goff
No and can’t tell you for sure and that is my point. Kool’s post is certain that this was a smokescreen because it fits his Bradford agenda. I think that I have no idea what the Eagles want to do except for get a QB in this draft. They may like some of the guys that go later in the draft. I have no idea. We have tons of “experts” that are just guessing based on nothing.
Dallas Morning news “Todd McShay sayd Cowboys taking Wentz”
NFL.Com “Cowboys Best Option – Wentz”
The Inquisitor: Dallas Rumours – Carson Wentz going to Big D”
USA today mock draft: “Cowboys net Wentz”
Cowboyswire: “Cowboys hosting Wentz”
Jason Cole: There’s a “growing sense” the Cowboys will take a quarterback at No. 4.
Peter King: “Carson Wentz is the favorite to be the No. 2 pick”
Charlie Campbell: “On Carson Wentz they(Browns) say ‘Stud. Absolute
Stud.'”
Cleveland Plain Dealer”If the Browns take Carson Wentz at No. 2 they’d be set for 15 years,”
Ond on and on and on and on and on and on
If anyone thinks the Rams were “forced” into a trade because of the Eagles, that person is an idiot.
There is no way Wentz or Goff would have made it to 15 in any scenario – whether teams were pimping those guys in the press or not.
Rams made an independant decision to move up to get one of them. End of story.
Nothing that was said in the press about teams “interest” had influence on the Rams decision to trade up for a guy that would, in no scenario, have made it to 15.
You are right vinnie– teams don’t sit in their war rooms and read blogs or reports this time of year. Everyone knew exactly what everyone else was offering –for REAL– don’t take any report seriously at this point… been saying that since draft non-sense started…
The eagles will definitely be willing to trade with Titans to get a 2nd Rd pick back
Trade back to 15 and make Tenn give you that 1st pick in the 2nd round.
Dagg that would be awesome then we could pretty much get 2 1st Rd picks, and get a d linemen, ID even sweeten the pot and give them Huff….joke for hac and mhenski…..but I would give a 5th to help get it
There’s a report that the rams want Goff not Wentz…. so there still maybe hope
And so it starts, if we got Lynch would that be OK with you gloomy
Rumors that Eagles and 49ers are talking with the Browns …
Eagles Offer #8,#77, Fletcher Cox and 2017 2nd Round Pick
49ers Offer #7,#37,#105 Picks in 2016 & 2017 2nd Round PIck
For the 100,000 time Paul, they are NOT TRADING Fletcher Cox.
He isn’t a part of any deal they will make from here on out……accept it bruh.
Only way the Eagles are talking to Browns is if they know for sure the rams are taking Goff… and 44 naw I’m not taking him at 8 if they can trade back and still get him cool if not naw….
I remember cigar asking me why would the titans make a trade now…
I did say that,… That offer they got was a lot better than your cox, huff and no 8 crap
Depends who they pick and how they pan out…. if cox goes on to win 2 defensive player of the yr awards in the next 5 yrs was it better than…
ugh… you just don’t get it… as i said how many established nfl players were included in the deal? ZERO– teams don’t want them for high picks…
Eliot Shorr-Parks:
Titans GM Jon Robinson says he had multiple offers for No. 1 overall pick. Eagles were one of them until they withdrew earlier in week.
Eagles withdrew their offer earlier this week…. They visited with Paxton Lynch on Monday…..
brutal
The 76ers might fire head coach Brett Brown and promote Mike D’Antoni, according to a report.
Ken Berger of CBS reports, “if D’Antoni, the Sixers’ associate head coach, gets offers elsewhere — besides Brooklyn, he could be a fit in Washington or Phoenix — then Colangelo may be tempted to let Brown go and bump D’Antoni up to head coach in order to keep him, sources say.” Brown’s job was thought to be safe, but it sounds like we could be in for some twists and turns in Philadelphia. Stay tuned.
Source: NBC Sports
Apr 14 – 12:20 PM
This is not too surprising to read about,,, Bryan Colangelo is going to put “His Guy” (D’Antoni) in Place…
76ers Will like Draft Guard J Murray of Kentucky or and then
Trade Nerlens Noel to the Boston Celtics for Guard Marcus Smart and Build from there..
Dammit. That is awful. They basically just used Brett Brown and then brought in coach with a carerer .516 winning %. That is bringing in a culture of winning? D’antoni hasn’t wan anything.
D’Antonio stinks. I dont necessarily care about Brett Brown as I dont really see any of these kids progressing but not for D’Antonio!!!! Guy only has a job because he once coached a loaded nash, stoudamire, matrix, raja bell, barbosa, jalen rose team. that squad made him and he still living on them 10 years later. this would not surprise me and i would hate it
in defense of Brown, how could any of the kids progress when they don’t play consistently because of nagging injuries?
D’antoni will be the worst thing that happened to this team.
the 2nd worst thing to happen. 2nd to josh harris buying the team
But D’Antoni Teams Run up and down the Court, Score at Will but Play Little to No Defense but are entertaining to Watch… They Lose Games 120 to 110 and the Young Players like to Play his Style for its Fun..
Man I do not want d Antonio, that’s a bad idea
Paul, both Marcus Smart, and Jamal Murray stink…..
Murray, is this years version of Gary Harris, and Smart was never what some who were high on him, thought he was.
howard with a dinger
Vince Velasquez spins a complete game, 3 hit, 0 runs, 16ks gem.
Damn he’s been awesome in Both his Starts…
Heck the Phillie Starters from Hellickson, Nola,Velasquez and Eickoff have all Pitched well and are getting it done… If the Phils Offense can Score 4 Runs a Game, they will Win some Games and maybe hang around .500 in the NL East…
With the Good Pitching the Phillies Games are over fast too…
if only the phils could play the padres every game
This time last year the padres were in a position to compete for the west… They are terrible now. The Phil’s have done a lot right in the last year and a half…they are becoming a fun team to watch. Franco is an MVP caliber player… They have 3 young pitchers who are middle to top of rotation types, maybe not an ace although Valasquez certainly showed that type of stuff.
They really need 4 position players still in the minors to make the jump….Afalo, Williams, Crawford, and one more…then just keep the young arms coming.
What’s the Young OF’s Name they got from the Rangers in the Hamels Deal?
i know crawford is a top 10 mlb prospect but im not sold he can hit in the bigs, still young so obviously we will see but his bat looks like galvis bat so far imo
as far as franco, mvp. idk we will see about that. im so snake bit from prospects turning to poop that i just sit and hope its all real
Well when everyone was whining for prospects I was saying careful what you wish for and I was crucified.
There were many prospects trade by the phils and the Philadelphia got some in return for pence…. None of them either way seem to be working out. It’s mlb prospect to stud is a huge crater
Nick williams
Is he Double or Triple A ? I’ll have to check him out as he had a nice progression thru the Rangers System and is highly thought of..
He is with the Iron Pigs pman. Had a great season in AA last season.