Howie Roseman Caps Brilliant Offseason By Fleecing Desperate Vikings
What an offseason it has been for Eagles’ General Manager Howie Roseman.
In the same offseason where he worked some miracles in erasing the wretched mistakes of Chip Kelly’s year of full control, unloading the contracts of DeMarco Murray, Byron Maxwell, and Kiko Alonso, the cherry on top of ‘Roseman’s Revenge’ is today’s trade of Sam Bradford to the Minnesota Vikings.
The perfect storm came together for Roseman.
With Teddy Bridgewater suffering a devastating knee injury, the Vikings took a desperate, shortsighted approach to save their season, sacrificing next year’s first-round pick to bring in what is essentially a placeholder quarterback that has never had a winning season, never thrown for more than 4,000 yards, and only hit the 20 touchdown mark once in his career.
Roseman had the perfect angle to maximize Bradford’s value. In order to get the Eagles to part with Bradford, their starting quarterback, the compensation would have to be extreme. This wasn’t a situation where a third or even a second round pick would have been acceptable.
It had to return a first.
The Eagles now receive unprecedented value for Bradford. Entering the season, the hope was that he would play at a high level, stay healthy, keep the Eagles competitive, and then next offseason the team MIGHT be able to squeeze a second or third rounder out of him.
Instead the Eagles pick up a first-round pick, essentially replacing the pick they already forfeited to Cleveland to obtain Carson Wentz. This was the kind of deal that was simply impossible to refuse.
If Wentz goes on to become the team’s next franchise quarterback, Roseman’s work this offseason could potentially go down as one of the best years by any league executive ever.
Say ‘Hello’ To The Chase Daniel Era
Now, the downside of the deal.
In the short-term, the Eagles are going to take a bit of a hit.
Chase Daniel becomes the team’s starting quarterback, and following a handful of unimpressive preseason showings, that doesn’t project well for the team’s win-loss margin in 2016.
Daniel doesn’t have the arm strength to stretch the field, and his smaller stature prevents him from seeing the field well. His best asset is his mobility, he’s quick and agile, capable of avoiding rushes and extending some plays.
How long will Daniel start for the Eagles?
It’s certainly hard to imagine Daniel lasting the entire season.
It seems very likely that Carson Wentz is going to take over once he’s ready, its just a matter of when, not if.
The early speculation would point to Week 5. With the Eagles having an early bye in Week 4, it seems reasonable that Daniel could play the first three games, and the team could then make the transition over the bye.
Final Thoughts
Poor Sam Bradford now has to learn his third different offense in the span of a year. Pity that.
The Eagles will end up getting a larger return for Bradford than they did for Donovan McNabb, a legitimate franchise quarterback that actually accomplished things in this league. How about that?
Bradford and the Vikings will come to Philadelphia on October 23rd, adding a whole extra layer of intrigue to that game. Who would have thought just 24 hours ago that we could be possibly be seeing Carson Wentz taking on Bradford on another team by midseason?
Assuming of course, that Bradford stays healthy enough to make it to that game.
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It gives us a ton of picks and Howie needs to get some praise here. I thought bradford was staying here unless someone was going to give us a ton and Im surprised it happened but excited to maybe see rook this year. If we had something special at WR i dont think this would have happened.
Happy for Bradford and Vikings. Happier for the birds. Now can we get this Wentz era started already?
Wentz era begins 10/9 at the lions… After the bye week.
Many many of you…hot air, fraud etc said the eagles had no plan… Said they were just throwing shit
I believed the best plan was to keep Bradford as the stop gap. However, I stated that if the Eagles could get a 2nd rounder for Bradford then take the deal. Turns out they got a 1st, and a 4th, that can possibly turn into a 2nd or 3rd. This deal was an absolute no brainer. Love It!!!
That 3rd preseason game really increased Bradford’s stock..lol.
The Vikings got fleeced by Howie.
I stated time and again, play turd, he plays well, eagles fight for playoffs and he gets us a two…. Howie is smarter than me, his plan… Turd is a HOF 3rd week of preseason qb, someone in contention will lose a qb in camp (always happens) get a one and more…
Wentz 10/9… If the birds a re 2 and 2 he has a chance to get us to the post season
I called it his value was never as high as it was after 3rd preseason game pat on back ensued
Where is CT?
Denny Any chance you could hook up with the chip kelly and have an talk with him about Howie and what Howie is been doing since chip departure to san fran?or would that be considered a taboo subect matter to a coach?Would be fun to read about.
Looks like the Eagles are going to start Wentz over Daniels from what Adam Caplan is saying..
Funny. the sports page I read, in minnesota .The writers are pretty happy with the trade.Lot of salary stuff I did not understand , but they seem ok with getting the fragile bradford .Amazing the difference in culture and thinking between philly and minn.
Why not they feel like they have a chance. Bridgewater was t an all pro, he manged the game…
Bridgewater is even more conservative passing the football than Bradford. Bridgewater dinks and dunks even more than Bradford.
Reports are Chase Daniel is mad about Wentz possibly starting week 1. Chase thought he’d get his shot.
What drug is this guy taking…Chase Daniel…Who? Shut up and be thankful you’re even in the NFL smurf.
Chase will get over it on pay day… It’s a non story.
Just woke up to the news ..whoa ,.xmas in September …now move huff to chip ,and start turner ..and santas wish list will be complete
Cuts a re today… Howie has moved on from this move…. OL depth? But how many good OL get cut?, LB depth? I for one think WR was seriously upgraded with DGB if his head is right.
I think Huff will remain with the Eagles. I bet Peterson will get
more out of Huff than Chip ever would. Did Turner make the cut? I’m rooting for him
Huff will be on the 2016 Eagles.
Howie haters are going to have to look hard now to find a reason that’s he’s “not a football guy”. In one off-season, he was able to get rid of coach high school Harry, erase the slop he infected the team with in Murray, Alonzo, and Maxwell and actually use the slop to move up in the draft. Move up again by trading minimal assets, over multiple years to get what they believe is a franchise QB. Re-signing Bradford to an Eagle friendly contract, with recouping future assets in mind, that allowed for contingecies in all scenario’s, which culminated in getting more for Bradford that anyone ever imagined and essentially making the cost of the move for Wentz, a 2018 2nd round pick. Not to mention getting a high upside WR for a practice squad lineman and re-signing a number of young building block pieces to contracts with language to escape in certain scenarios (L. Johnson). Start Wentz week 1- run the ball and play defense – let him spread his wings as the season progresses. Love it.
Eagles SB contenders 2018 and beyond… They are working the formula… I believe the steelers are the model they are trying to emulate…
I live here in MN (moved here in 03), they have no idea what to make of this out here. As you.can imagine, my phone has been blowing up since last night when the rumor hit).
I have always seen a Sam supporter. Watch that man ball out of his mind in Minnisota. Defense. Running game. Oline. Tight ends. Young promising WRs. And a new stadium.
He is a UPGRADe over teddy.
Sam would have led us to the playoffs.
With that being said I cannot believe what HOWIE pulled off AGAIN!! How does this man keep doing it? Sitting back and losing his job and learning off his mistakes and chips was the best thing to happen to him.
We basically gave up NOTHING to get a potiential franchise caliber quarterback.
To get rid of those contacts kiko Byron and Murray and move from 13-8 then get to 2?!!?!
Resigned our homegrowned talent. Drafted some stud free agents to help this team.
Now he got our draft picks back?
I like Sam. But u don’t turn down a first rounder and 4th for him. Especially
When most of us thought we could only get a 4th only off Sam max!!
The future is bright baby!!! So excited
not a Sam hater like some of these nitwits on this site. But he isn’t an upgrade over Bridgewater. Teddy’s a legitimate starter in this league. That being said, what exactly was minny suppose to do? They have a legitimate team (far better than what we have) and are trying to win now. There wasn’t an option even close to Sam on the open market. This deal fell into our lap. I’ll give Howie partial credit after manufacturing a logjam a qb.
Difference in culture and thinking in Minnesota. i would think if all the fans in the NFL were given a choice a team to inherit(Eagles or Vikings) who would they choose. Some fans would say the Vikings have a attacking defense, great awesome line, the best runningback in the league. all we need is a solid QB. Some fans love the idea of the stud QB(Wentz, Luck, Mcnabb, Marino) Where u don’t need a top D, but you need to fill spots. Fans will think the Vikings are closer to the Broncos SB last year with their D. Some fans will think Wentz and think Brees Super Bowl where the D was not top. Some fans across the nation are thinking the Colts drafted Luck, shouldn’t they be winning SB bowls by now. Didn’t they fill those needed spots. Will the Eagles fill those spots before Cox retires?
I’m curious wether Dallas was in play on Sam ,and if howie didn’t use them as leverage to drive the Sam I am ,compensation? I know Dallas just signed “a guy” from Ravens ,but ..just thinking. Howie being howie …
Dallas has HOF QB Prescott…. Ask fraud man
Hac. Prescott is a pre season Hofer …there are many ,littered in the NFL graveyards ..
We just dumped one
Going into the rear view mirror ..we moved Foles and a two ,got Sam and ,now next years one from Minny plus a 4 ..Factor in SAMs probability of injury ,we may net a better one than our own ..
Think the past is the past… I think you look at the cost (or lack of cost) to get wentz … If he is Big Ben you basically drafted him with your original pick at 15….all of a sudden you have a good amount of picks a potential stuff receiver and your franchise qb
Eagles 53-man roster is posted on website
Even the biggest Bradford supporters (ie me included) have to love this trade. For one this should bring the fan base back together as noone can really complain withave what is going on. Start Wentz when ready and let’s see where we are at. GO BIRDS.
Vikings probably could have gotten Tom Brady for a 1st and a 2nd.
A 1st and a 4th (with potential to be a 3rd) for Bradford is a fleecing by Howie.
Vegas line is interesting week one the Eagles with Sam -71/2 45 now 31/2 41 ..Minny line with Sam also went down …Eagles win total is 7 Minny 8 ..that new first round pick ..is a coin flip …today
Fantastic news. Great offseason for Hope. Chip made Howie come back with a passion to prove what he has learned and show his worth.
I just hope Wentz plays week one and beats the Browns in a statement game. Could of had me.
Howies tweet one minute a go “priceless” this wasn’t our blueprint ,but you have to be able to adapt to the opportunities…presented ..another words …Santa Claus is always welcome in philly…one quote that may be in bronze ,one day ,under Howies statue
SAMs trade may have just saved turners roster spot …win ,win
SAMs week 7 visit ,will have the Eagles ring of honor ,enshrining the last two game 3s of pre season ,for Sam I am …
Is anyone left from the chip ship Era?
This day just got better. Sanchez signed by Dallas
Man oh, Man! I don’t know how Howie pulled this offseason off. I guess when Lurie gave Howie the credit for the 2012 draft, people will believe him now huh?
I felt we could compete this year with Bradford, but a first and fourth with the upside of it turning into a 2nd is a win-win scenario. If the Vikings do well, the Eagles get a better pick in 2018. If they stink, we get a high first round pick in 2017! I mean, this is insane value.
I didn’t realize how foolish GMs were in this league. I thought no GM would take the contracts of Murray and Maxwell off our hands. Howie no only does it, but gets picks that he then uses to move up in the draft. He even gets the same team to give them their 2nd round pick with a lot of upside, if somewhat of a knucklehead, for a below average backup tackle. He won’t win exec of the year, cuz usually that award goes to a exec whose team did well that year, but this might be the best offseason I’ve ever seen.
And Wentz should start as soon as he’s fully healthy.
I know guys in the locker room wouldn’t say it while Sam was still here ,however ,his whiny pouty fit in this off season was on the organizations minds ..To have the mute buttons pushed and enable howie ,who’s new monicker “how did he do that” is another feather in the organizations handling of what could have been a much more ,disastrous outcome ..Now the distractions are removed ,guys will rally around one guy ,and let’s ball
These new change of events just proves Sam and his agent were right; however and the front office were less than forthright; our fanbase as usual can be a clueless bunch. So basically what same and his agent requested -once the eagles made it clear he wouldn’t get a fair shot- is what transpired? The same people that were being company men and killing him and his agent for, are now falling all over themselves hailing Howie.
Look Howie’s off season work has been almost flawless up until the Bradford/Wentz/Daniels overplay. you trade up that much for a transcendent talent, don’t give me that sitting and learning bs. We should have gotten rid of Bradford and never should have signed Daniels to that contract. Bridgewater’s misfortune was the opportunity to correct that overplay.
Now Wentz is said to be staring once healthy. No brainer.
Cold brewski. Less than forthright? wtf does that mean ..does that mean if you have a chance to upgrade your organization you should keep your word to Sam and his agent first and foremost ..give me a break ..wtf did Sam do to have that street cred? Crickets …nobody was knocking down SAMs door during free agency …in a game where they play for pay ..always follow the $$ ..it’s always going to be forthright
Street cred? Wtf is that? He’s a professional who entered into negotiations with the understanding he would be able to play to earn a long term deal. Howie should have traded him the moment he knew he was going after Wentz. Howie overplayed his hand by thinking any veteran qb trying to establish stability would have gone for that ish. As usual our fanbase drank the kool-aid and gave the team a pass just because they didn’t like the player(see Djax, LMcoy, and Mathis). Oh by the way, Mathis says he’ll set up interviews with us eagle fans to discuss what it’s like to win a lombardi.
Cold brew …street cred by my definition,is two fold when adressing sam …putting up numbers when they count,and staying healthy,and lastly .raise the talent level youre dealt..like sam I ams playoff wins. Big fat zeros across the board…if he hadnt cost the eagles a high second round pick,in my opinion,hed never have been re-signed..once they evaluated his possibility of yielding assets they retained him..he’s minnys guy now ,with a big thank you to there tight ends coach,who has now overhyped this guy into two gullible organizations..
All due respect deserteagle, but I fail to see how street cred comes into play here. It’s the job of the gm to get talent. The coaches job to develop this talent. One of the most overrated claims in sports is this making teammates better. A bunch of well paid mofos at the highest level don’t need someone to make them feel good. Al Davis and the Raiders had it right: JUST WIN BABY!! If I want some feel good moral ish I’ll go back to coaching kids.
Lastly, Sam didn’t cost us anything. That carnival barker in San Fran was the one that decided to give up a second. Actually now that I think about street cred in the case of professional football would be showing and proving with a lombardi or two. Average Sam doesn’t have any, BUT NEITHER DO WE AS A FRANCHISE..
Couldn’t agree more..chip left a heap of steamy dung here..I want the same thing you do bro..a parade..well respectfully disagree that sam was the guy to lead us ..to our goal..nobody here is rooting against wentz ,if they truly bleed green ,his task is to assimilate into a ravenous defense led squad with a special emphasis on protecting the ball..heres hoping that they remain healthy and get the best street cred..broad street…
Brew, Sam was the starting QB until Teddy Bridgewater’s knee obliterated in training camp. The Eagles were serious about him starting the season.
They didn’t get rid of Bradford because he’s a solid quarterback, and no team in this league prepares at the beginning of a season to let a rookie play just so he can take his lumps. As I’ve said since all the arguments regarding Vick, the best qb on your roster plays, cuz you try to win every season.
But a 1st and a 4th with the potential for the 4th to become a 2nd, was too much value too pass up. They would never get better value for Bradford than right now.
Now that Bradford is gone, Wentz is going to play because he actually gives us a better chance than Daniels, because he has way more ability. If Daniels was actually better, Wentz would still be warming the bench.
The Bradford/Daniels/wentz overplay???? Please explain how it was an overplay?…
The only guy who laps at Sam more than kool is pat shurmur (Minnesota tight end coach) has been reunited with Sam for a third time ..mediocrity is attracted to mediocrity
One injury away from Chase Daniels! Weintz is not ready for prime time!
Of course he is. Prior to getting injured he outplayed bradturd. He is way better than bradturd at everything. He is mentally prepared, physically gifted and gonna make everyone on that offense immediately better
“Wentz not ready for prime time” fuck outta here. Why not ? How come ? The mother fucker gonna be better than marriota Carr and Winston book it.
I hope he’s better than Tom Brady. Why not set the bar higher? His contemporarys, haven’t accomplished anything outside of decent rookie seasons. Wentz passes the eye test so far, but until he’s accomplished something other than “decent” accounting in a few preseason snaps, I’m not anointing ish. Your our my wishing don’t translate to reality. The Mariotas and Winstons college resumes are light years ahead of his. And they’ve produced more than a few plays in one preseason game.
I’m relieved same has been dealt so now we can see if this kid is worth all the hype for trading up to get. Until then, he hasn’t done shyt for me to jump up and down about.
Keith. What does “not ready for prime time ” mean to you ? it’s obvious you’ve never watched Wentz play at college ,and he was injured ,thus ,not really allowing for evaluation by us fans while here ..baseless comments ..Will he have a learning curve ?..yes ..even hofers have those..will he show intangibles that will take your breath away ..will he learn from his dumb ass mistakes ,will he shut up your pie hole..will he make the Boone zoo euthanized chimp,stop slinging his crap around? Will kool pounce on him at his first bad moment? Well I’d say he’s ready for prime time in philly ..and if it’s any indication ,so do the guys wearing suits in the FO..
Dreams of Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady! The league is evolving, just look around. There are no more pure pocket passer! And the ones who can remain up right have mobility. The Birds reached for WEINTZ! Oh I’m sorry, Joey Harrington! He got the size and mobility pieces, but his constant accuracy is lacking. The last comment courtesy Dick Vermeil.
We didnt reach at all as it turns out..we received back pur first round pick..and its to be determined if what you call reaching is a “franchise” young stud..I like the agressive posture vs signing retreads…every time
I agree, just don’t mortgage the future to do it! The Birds will need to retool their offensive line and receiving Corp at some point! Acquiring draft picks helps, but I’ve got some serious issues with the cast of characters evaluating the incomlng talent! Marcus Smith, Nelson Agholor, Eric Rowe, Danny Watkins, and every other Wac-10 prospect drafted by Roseman & Co.
While some feel that a future was mortgaged (no one can explain that one to me) It is evident that the eagles have a clear direction- the plan is solid it takes into account winning now and sustaining it into the future– Their core of young players are locked up, they have a QB they are very happy with and its going to be a good era.
Ian Rapport reported the Vikings contacted Coach Reid in Kansas City to inquire about Nick Foles. Obviously Andy Reid didn’t deal him for whatever Minnesota offered.
Eagles0. It’s not that Andy didn’t want to discuss trading Nick Foles ..it was BBq ribs night in KC …priorities..
Browns and Browns fans gotta love this
Eagles and Eagles fans gotta love this
Vikings and Vikings fans. Haaaaaaaaa
Minnesota starting Shaun hill in week 1. Buyers remorse? or did someone see twig in the flesh ?
Just installing the offense … Sleeves will play till he breaks
Stopped at the linc today to scoop some kids some wentz merch. Just waiting to buy tix to the Browns game to see if he starting if he in I’m in
Yo Vikings thanks for fournette!!!!
Gcobb.com set to shut down. This is it theres no more controversy. Theres no more Vick vs Foles, Kolb, McNabb theres nothing. This site cant handle unity.. It is imperative that Wentz can play. If it takes us 4 years to find out thenanother 5-10 to find another qb my god. He has to be able to play.
Dag..in negadelphia ..controversy grows on the morning dew…heres a stirring the provocative pot possibility..did the coach ,whos been touting sam and about to head into his first live bullets contrst,sign on ,for this trade?
Lol. Give it time.. vinnie will be calling for chase soon.
Lol.
As I have stated 1000x. A rookie qb needs 16 game (min) before beginning to formulate judgements.
Realistically it’ll be 2 years before we’ll know if he’s going to be really good or not.
You will get nothing from patience from me on this. This is not a loser retread like Vick or Waterford. This is a rookie. You have to remember how patient I was with Foles ( who is still going to turn out ok in KC).
I’m giving Wentz 2 full seasons.
Vin.Agreeably,a Stark difference between the retreads philosophy vs a physical specimen as Wentz.Putting the pieces around him I believe will also take two more years to become transformative.The great news will be there youth and growth will be in unison ..the veterans will be asked to allow for the maturation ,and show there leadership qualities..Who other than the O line isn’t in the same growth curve..A true organizational plan ,fiscal sensibilities and the most important elements ,talent evaluations …
Lurie got hell for recreating the AR era… Say what you want but it’s a sustainable path to success… Big, strong QB with a defense and a few playmakers around him
This will be Wentz 8th start in the last 5 years lol.
May wanna check that math
2014- Junior year Wentz started all 16 games. 15-1 record.
2015- Wentz started 1st 6 games before injury. Came back to start and win title game. 7 total.
That’s 23 games started in the last 2 years…but hey, don’t let the facts get in the way. Trump doesn’t.
2nd grade math…lol
Relax dude there’s not one Eagles fan in the world that doesn’t want him to succeed I was joking
Looks like Watson was overrated
I love Watson as a college qb in NFL he will be a game manager at best like bridge water
Birds should take a look at josh sitton who was cut by GB. He’s 30, but was a PB player as recent as last year at guard and can play tackle in a pinch. Build that o-line, run the ball, PA pass, play defense and let Carson grow.
Everz. Sitton at guard a pro bowl player and atkinson at running back oakland,have to be two potentially interesting candidates
Sitton will have a bunch of suitors
I wonder if fraud man was hiking in the mountains yesterday and got eaten by a mountain lion…. I miss his stupid ramblings
Hac..if chimp was in the mountains he had lool as his tour guide…kool is siitting under a rock waiting on wentz first misstep to foolishly pounce
Neither fraud nor hot air will allow for one minute of growing pains from Wentz
Hac..red meat for there base…it matters not ,if hes on a learning curve that every qb follows..theyll pounce on him like a starved defensive end..let’s all understand its a transformative moment..
There is a very long list in recent history of first year QBs taking their team to the playoffs … I don’t believe that in the eagles minds they’ve given up the season. I heard this morning that Peterson and howie talked to many veterans prior to this move
Hac. Making the playoffs is directly linked to the division ,as we know..It’s obvious NY andDallas have hit speed bumps ,and Washington will be assumed the front runner ..We now have defensive schemes to attack there strengths and hoping we can neutralize Them to remain relevant ..Special teams ,and Jim Schwartz will do the heavy lifting ,and receivers will need run precise routes and allow the rook to trust in there capabilities ..This is my most disconcerting aspect ..going into the season..who becomes Wentz security blanket ?
Ertz will be his Witten … DGB will be his Bryant…twice a game celek will bail him out
And don’t forget Matthews catches 85
I’m also mindful sproles will be better utilized and his attributes will be helped from multiple formations ,unlike dumbass chip
And lastly Wentz brings to the table a Big Ben quality that twig didn’t ..keeping a spy eventually will be vitally integral to having less men in the defense
Cleveland and RG 3 will be an interesting test for Jim Schwartz ..id expect jim to try to contain him and make him throw the ball from the pocket ..pressuring him and getting him uncomfortable ,not having played in a real game ,for quite some time ..Philly and a dominant Dee …are like ham and eggs ..
Let’s assume Matthews and DGB are capable ,with minimal drops ,the Ertz factor will look to single up on a linebacker and space will be available to allow sproles to work..huff I still believe will be upgraded if at all possible ,and the running back position as well will be waiver wire attentive ..it’s not definitive yet ..
How does the chimp and kool and the gang remain muted ? it’s a great thing to have your soapbox kicked out from under you and land nimbly ..Instead you retreat into a tortoise shell waiting for Wentz first pick? Cowardice …come out and show your Pom Poms
Can we pick up Forsett?
Id kick the tires on anybody.were assimilating a new system and a 9 year tread on the tires may be a risk..who are you cutting ?
Good point… Anyone who got cit has fleas, do you want your own dog with fleas or someone else’s….