Just about a month ago the owner the Philadelphia Eagles Jeffrey Lurie gave his state of the Eagles address to the media and the fans. It was a strange news conference to say the least. Lurie was saying everything to make you think that a change at the head coach position was coming but he announced that the head coach of the Eagles Andy Reid would be coming back for his 14th season next year.
He also told everyone that the other coaching positions would be a decision made by Andy Reid. Reid has been on vacation and has gotten back but in true Andy fashion he has made only some meaningless comments at the 76ers game the other night. The following is all he had to say about football to Matt Cord of the 76ers organization.
About the Pro Bowl:
“I try to watch every football game there is. I wish we were still playing and [LeSean McCoy, Jason Babin and Jason Peters] weren’t playing in the Pro Bowl and they were in the Super Bowl. I will watch the Pro Bowl and cross my fingers that none of them gets hurt and that they win so they get a little bit of extra money to support their families.”
About the Super Bowl:
“I’ll watch it. I think it’s a tossup for those two teams. It’s going to be a great game. I’m a fan of the sport. I enjoy it. I want the Philadelphia Eagles to be in that game and to win that game, particularly for this city and for all our fans.”
Cord: Must be nice to be at a sporting event and not have to worry . . .
Reid: “I sit here and I scout. I’m looking at tight ends, defensive ends and corners out here. There’s some potential, I’ll tell ya.”
I guess he doesn’t think it’s a big deal that the Eagles fans have no idea what his plans are going forward. All we can do is guess about what he’s going to do based on what he’s done before.
What it appears to be is the same old, same old Reid. It appears that Reid is not going to make any kind of coaching changes within his staff and that is a mistake. Juan Castillo, the current defensive coordinator is coming off his very first season as the Philadelphia Eagles defensive coordinator.
He was the Eagles offensive line coach for many years and when Reid announced that Juan would be his new defensive coordinator it raised a lot of peoples heads. Juan had no NFL experience on the defensive side of the ball. Many including myself felt that the Eagles should of gotten a guy who had NFL experience on the defensive side of the ball.
Well this promising season did not go the way that was predicted and many blamed it on the making of Juan Castillo the defensive coordinator and who made that choice. It was Andy Reid.
Well, when the season ended the St. Louis Rams fired their head coach Steve Spagnuolo and there were a lot of speculations that the Eagles would bring Spags back as the defensive coordinator of the Eagles. Well as many of you know by now, Steve Spagnuolo was named this past week the new defensive coordinator of the New Orleans Saints not what many in Philadelphia wanted to hear.
Also during the week current offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg interviewed with the Oakland Raiders but did not get the head coach position. Marty appears to be heading back for another season as the Eagles offensive coordinator for the 2012 season. It appears to be status quo for the Philadelphia Eagles or does it.
Reid has not come out and let the fans of the Eagles know what is going on. There is a lot of speculation going on. Even defensive coordinator Juan Castillo has no idea if he is coming back. The Eagles head coach had the opportunity to fix a mistake he made and a mistake it was to make Juan his defensive coordinator.
Does Reid think he does not need to come out and speak to the fans? Andy Reid where are you? If Andy was committed to winning than he would of brought back Steve Spagnuolo but he did not. The Eagles will not win the Super Bowl with Reid.
In fact the Philadelphia Eagles will not win a Super Bowl as long as Jeffrey Lurie owns the team. Lurie has told the fans that the Philadelphia Eagles model themselves after the New England Patriots. That the Patriots are the blueprint to success. Really Jeff, well the Patriots have won three Super Bowl titles. How many do the Philadelphia Eagles have?
Don’t you think that 13 years with Andy Reid is enough. Andy can only take this team to a certain level but cannot get over the hump. This team needed new blood, new system, and a new attitude.
Andy and Jeff just take a look up north on the New Jersey Turnpike and see who is playing in the game that the Philadelphia Eagles were predicted to be playing in, the New York Giants are there and not you. Jeffrey and Andy the team that you model yourself after is also there as well. Andy Reid you should of just realized that it was time to go but you are just too much of an ego maniac.
You had a chance to correct a mistake but you did not. It is going to be just the same old story. Eagles fans do not want nor deserve that. It looks like it is going to be 14 years and counting.
I love this comment!
Football Outsiders released its All Keep-Chopping Wood team, which recognizes players and coaches who did the most to help their teams lose games in 2011. Casey Matthews and Juan Castillo made it for the Eagles. Writes Tom Gower:
Really, though, naming Castillo defensive coordinator because he wanted to coach defense is like naming [Santonio] Holmes an offensive captain because you want him to show more leadership. It may work out, but you are just asking for trouble
I guess he must be back from vacation….or going on another vacation….does it reqally matter anyway?? Coughlin and Belechik are preparing for a game and Reid is picking out what Hawian shirt he will wear today….his boss said that his job is safe….there is no need to make any statements regarding the future of this 8-8 team…business as usual…..they will contact you next when ticket payments are due, that is enough communication…..what questions could possibly be out there anyway??
Dude, it’s not the coach’s responsibility to keep the fans updated on their plans for next season, in January! In fact, it IS his responsibility to keep plans secret until they get implemented.
So George, why on gods earth would you expect otherwise?
your right schill….keep everything secret is best for any potential moves……but does he have any responsibility to speak to the trainwreck that was last season?
greenfan – in my opinion – hell no. What could he possible say?
His responsibility is to try to improve the team for next year. That’s his only responsibility – at any point. His job is to coach the team, not appease fans – who we both no can NEVER be appeased – except by team success – so again, his job is to work toward team success.
Keeping plans secret isn’t even “coaching 101”. If in “coaching 101”, the instructor discovers that someone doesn’t know that, they’re booted for life from the course and coaching without a blink of an eye! But for some reason from time to time, media members and/or fans don’t get that….
That is what makes the NFL such a “fan friendly league”….they basically say “F-U for even thinking that we should talk about our team….buy our tickets and merchandise…but expect us to actually talk about last season?? F-U fans…we know what is best”
Makes you really love being a fan of the team
I dont know of any NFL coach who speaks to the public or media in the off-season or before free agency and the draft….
you will only hear Reid after they select the 28yr old Brandon Weeden with their 1st round pick when he claims he is the next “Brett Favre”…haha
I dont know why anyone bothers…as long as Reid is coach, i’m done as a birds fan… f-em
interesting view greenfan.
I don’t see them not keeping us up to date on everything, 24/7, year round as “F-U” at all…. I see it as doing the best thing for the success of the team. The media just spins their words for (the media’s) own benefit when they do speak. It can hurt them, and can’t help them… so…. again, how is that saying “F-U” to the fans?
How is this different from what the Phillies do/did?
green – I think your expectations/desires are a little out of whack – i’m not trying to be a jerk, but if you acknoledge that it would be stupid for Reid to divulge information, then why is it an “FU” not to divulge info? That’s a messed up logic….
I recall that Jeff Laurie indicated that AR would be speaking with the press…actually I remember him saying that he would be talking with them later that week…he also referred them to AR regarding the future of Juan Castillo….how are we to know about Castillo’s future if AR refuses to speak as the owner indicated??
I am talking about a recap of the last season…how is that out of whack?
Green – what can he recap? We know what happened. What do you want him to say?
And he WILL speak eventually. It’s January for crying out loud. Free agency and the draft are months away. The SuperBowl hasn’t even happened yet. Slow your roll, what could possibly be the rush other than “you want it now”?
Be patient.
Dude – Allow me to let you in on a little secret – listening to Jeffery, Joe, Howie or reid speak is USELESS. There are only 2 reasons that they will EVER speak to the media (while still in the current positions) –
1) Because sometimes their contracts obligates it – in which case they’re speaking only because they have to, therefore, what they say is just to go through the motions and do what has to be done – not worth listening to – it can only frustrate you or mislead you.
2) (to a lesser extent Reid but…) they’re doing it for marketing/pr purposes. It’s a business, they have a team, they have to sell it. – which makes it as dumb to listen to them as it is to take a personal injury lawyer commercial for its word.
DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND IGNORE THEIR SPEAKING AT ALL TIMES. They will never satisfy you and in most cases what they say is worthless.
I didn’t ask the question…DUDE…..George did above.
Is it really that unreasonable to think that he would have at least had a press conference to wrap up the year as he has in years past?
I will be patient while I reflect on our 8-8 season while I watch a division rival play in the superbowl for the second time in the last 4 years…I will be patient while I watch other coaches hired around the league while we sit silently, holding our cards close to our vest in fear that anyone actually find out that we have NO PLAN at all….I can be patient …DUDE..because my expectations have fallen so low that nothing surprises me anymore…the time is yours
why in the hell does the eagles front office and andy reid always clamp shut and not give the fans any news on what they are doing or plan to do. all around the league things are happening, people changing jobs, season changing moves and the eagles sit and watch. Make one sick . Throw the fans a bone now and then.
Andy is not going to bring in his future replacement. You guys gotta understand some things about andy, hes a very intelligent guy and doesnt lack common sense either which is rare, so he looks at this situation as hes not going to bring in a premier coordinator that will eventually take over his job, again going back to his job security and surrounding himself with people that wont be a threat to him.. he gets everyone that is premier out of town and everyone keeps saying andu cant keep these guys around and cant control what they do.. no he can keep them around.. looh who he promoted to defensive coordinator.. someone that didnt know what that heck he was doing, hed rather promote someone like juan than to bring someone in here with experience.. this is what i mean by him feeling threatened and not wanting to help the eagles find his future replacement.. let me ask this,would any of you guys promote juan mudd or washburn to head coach if andy got fired? I dont think any of them would even take the job.. thats what iam saying, andy has all this stuff planned out trust me and hes sticking with juan until hes fired or he steps away…
I think Coach AR has been just “winging it” for the last couple of years…
He throws more shit up against the wall that I Do…At least I am right 1/2 the time. Good Grief…
Heres where im standing…..
always watch what they DO, not what they SAY……
We alll know that Andy is loyal to his guys. We have a track record of it. From players to coaches…. Andy stands by them. Even when he has to let them go…see Sean M on this one. so…. (follow my logic)
Juan said he didnt know what the plan was… thats Bogus. There is NO way andy didnt talk with him. Think about this….. they have a relationship. There is no way andy has let him hang for a month. NO WAY. So…..
Clearly Juan knows and did not want to comment… so what does that mean? To me…. it means that they are looking at someone to come in. Juan gets to stay but i dont believe he will be runing this D.
I think its a for sure thing that we have a new Dcord this year. Now…. will they bring in someone who knows what they are doing? or aare they looking at hot dog vendors again?
according to some on this board, it would be ridiculous to think that a head coach of an NFL team would ever consider talking to the press…what could possibly be the benefit?
I wonder why the Phillies do the winter carivan circuit meeting fans and talking with the press…don’t they realize that it is better to operate in a vacuum, behind closed doors…the fans will ALWAYS be there, right?? The length to which so pepole will go to defend the organization is crazy…you would think they were on the teams payroll the way they defend them at every turn
@ stevo…I agree with your logic…Juan basically issued a “no comment, I’m just working here” when he was questioned down at the senior bowl….I too believe that Reid has a plan for Juan, and he has communicated that plan to him. It is just for the fans to be “patient” to see exactly what that plan might be. I agree with your thinking there rev.
Greenfan. I think football questions are much different then Baseball q’s. think about it…..
Whats a harder q…. who will play first or who will run the D?
Its venomous for football. Not so for baseball.
i dont think Andy needs to speak to me or to us. But i dang sure what an answer. An answer in thr form of a true DC. (sorry Navy, i know you hate those words).
*want.
Stevo…you want an answer but noboy talks and there have been no moves other than firing the DB coach and losing a player personel guy….how do you get an answer from that?
The fact that the team went 8-8 and to think that the man in charge should not talk is pretty funny. I guess too many fans just take what ever they are given and say “thank you”. I don`t lose sleep over it, fact is I rarely think about it much when not on this site, which if I were an executive within the Eagles may not want to hear. Fact is not many fans care anymore…I fine most pretty apathetic when ever we talk about the birds….an apathetic fanbase should be their worse nightmare, but the real results probably won`t show up on their bottomeline for a few years…..yawn…realy don`t care what they do anymore
green- if you read what i wrote you will see that i said that I want an answer in the form of a DC. sheesh…. read folks. READ. i could care less about what he says. Why dont people read more than 1 line? can someone please tell me this?
I now steveo…you want an answer in the form of a hiring, I got it. Did you happen to read more then my first few words
Green – Facts: Andy Reid will talk at somepoint. We’ll know who the DC is at somepoint before the saeson. We’ll know who they draft, who they sign for FA and who their starters will be. We’ll know all that before the season starts.
To me, everything else about wanting to know that stuff now is inpatience.
Expressing your desire for that info now is fine if you want to get it off your chest. But it won’t speed anything up. And those answers WILL come in time. So…..
yes, yes i did.
Heres why i want an answer sooner than later.
One of the ways they screwed this D up by hiring position coaches before the DC. If its 1 unit the unit needs to work together. I fear they will be trying to do this again. I go back a few years and look at how oakland tried to build an 0. they had recivers that were fast and could spread it out. They had an Oline built to run the ball to the outside and a RB to pound it up the middle. On top of that… they had no QB who could get it down field. This was clearly a mess. Lots of great names but could not pull it together. I feel that we are doing this on the D side of the ball now.
I’m glad he isn’t speaking. What is he going to say. My five year play failed three times. I have to do a better job. You can listen to Joe Conklin’s recording of the song better job. It’s more informative. Let him go out and shop for those loud shirts so he can outdo the big guy on Hawaii Five 0. Juan did’t say anything either and that’s good because how many times can you hear hard work anf fundamentals before you puke. I would like to know why Marty wasn’t offered a job if that’s the case.
no worries Stevo – I hope its so cold in Minnie that your nipples develop a permanent hard on and your little willy shrivels, runs and hides!
green – let me jump on that – it would be ridiculous to think that a head coach of an NFL team would ever consider talking to the press – comment
I actually posted a story from Tom Brady where he discussed ‘speaking to the press’ and why he would never, ever. ever do it – something along the lines of ‘ why, if I say anything I will then spend the rest of the week trying to un say it’
the people on this board (me in particular) could care less what Andy, Joe, Howie or Jeff say – I care about the product on the football field – and to quote Bill PArcelss you are what your record is – 8-8 and drafting 15 so about the dead middle –
Jeff Lurie about how many years ago made the statement ‘The Gold Standard’ he made it in refernce to the new stadium, the multitude of community events, the award winning cheerleaders and web page (little Spadaro love) – he NEVER stated his football team was the gold standard – but the organization as a whole – now – look at how that comment gets constnatly repeated, twisted, turned and thrown back in his face – so why would they speak again –
the eagles made an ass load of FA moves last year – an assload – Joe Banner actually made the comment that becuase the year before there was no salary cap, the eagles new players were going to be released to get back under the salary cap – they went out and got JEnkins, Babin, Brown, Young, Smith, DRC, Asmo, PAge. Mathis, in FA and spent to almost the salary cap level – and resigned Vick – and then – at the end of FA – they had spent there load – he said they were ‘all in’ (not to mention they have the highest paid coaching staff in the NFL –
look at how many times that comment gets twisted? Well in hindsight this didn’t work out – so they didn’t go all in –
so why say anything? Why? The police tell you you have the right to remain silent – every lawyer will tell you to exercise that right –
and lastly – Schill’s excellent point – most FOOTBALL coaches do not like to stand around talk to the press – they don’t – baseball coaches like hangin out in the shooting the shit – football doesn’t –
but question – what is the phillies starting rotation – who is going to come in and pitch the 8th – who is the left handed pinch hitter? These things are all failry well know – different then football where you have to decide how much you are going to blitz, run a zone or man coverage that week – if an injured player is going to play or not, which CB youplan to attack –
at the very least, i wish washburn would be the DC. at the very least if he is going to run the wide 9, have him run the front 7 instead of the front 4. ugh… this D kills me.
actually Navy, i was in NJ for a week and it was 50. I had shorts on. thanks tho. But i 100% agree Navy… Andy should NEVER speak. The press gets all tissy because he wont speak. Threy try to make it OUR problem as fans. But its not. i dont care. I havet listened to an AR post game interview for prolly 10 years. why? because he SHOULDNT say ANYTHING. and when he does….. he’s almost always telling a lie. good. fine by me.
8 and 8 it’s all good no need to do anything hasty.
The guys running the Eagles are like the KGB, only they don’t scare anybody.
Granbeagle – ALL TEAMS ACT “LIKE THE KGB”, Yes some teams have made moves already – teams FAR more shitty than the Eagles.
Being secretive is cool when followed by success.
gran – Ok – that’s from a fan perspective of how it ‘feels’.
But from a coaching perspective, it’s the right thing to do. All the time. Period. There’s not a coach who would tell you otherwise. So should the coaches try to do their job or make fans happy at all times even at the cost of success?
No argument there.I don’t buy eagles tix for the coaches personalities, just the results. Not getting much of either. You aren’t named after the German poet by any chance Herr Schiller?
lol gran, YES. My prob is NOT that andy wont talk…. its that he hired the ticket counter to run the D after NOT talking last year.
Ha gran – nope – but I do get that a lot.
interesting point navy…take the advice that a lawer gives a client, stay silent.
I guess when you have something to hind or may incriminate you, it is wise to be quiet. Makes alot of sense now, thanks for clearing that up for me.
Good point granbeagle….there aren’t alot of complaints from Patriot fans regarding a secretive nature of the coach, I guess they are spending their time looking back on SB wins or looking forward to the next one. Good point.
What’s Coach AR going to say that already hasn’t been said for the last 4 months, Turnovers, Poor Tackling, Too many Penalties, Missed opportunities,Putting Players in Better Postions,etc,etc,etc…
He’ll talk to the Press when he has something to say..
agreed Pman… and besides…. we arent going to hear him say things like….. I should have hired a DC. I now see the need for LB’s and ive contacted a guy that knows how to tackle…. he will help us in camp. All we needed to hear came from the owner who said….
1. Now or never Andy.
2. “fools gold”.
chilly lands with the browns. Now i just hope we keep marty (did i actually just write this?).
I don’t think Marty M going anywhere now that the Raiders/Colts jobs are filled. I belive he would have only left for a HC (Which I was hoping he would)
Just to throw it out there.. Bruce Arians (from OC ofthe Steelers) was let go and is availalbe,, as is MIke Sherman..
Steelers first stated that ARians was retirting due to health, the truth is they didn’t renew his contracat for OWner old man Rooney did not like how the Steelers have gond away from being a power running team like years past and beceam a passing team under Arians 5 year tenure as OC..
(Probably a lot has to do that they have had crappy OL’s and a big strong QB in Big Ben who can extend plays) .. Arians could be a good fit and bring better balance..plus it wouldn’t hurt to have him on the Staff for 2012 since the Eagles play the AFC North teams and he could really help the Eagles game plan versus Steelers,Ravens,Bengals & Browns since he’s very familiar with them….
Greenfan, I live in New England. You know of what you speak. And yes it is painful being surrounded by Pats fans.
and that’s the whole ball of wax right there green – when a person of no moral character, a confirmed cheater, like Bellicheck has success, he can do whatever he wants – and everyone should be happy? IS it that Andy Reid is the way he is, or that Andy Reid is the way he is and he hasn’t won a SB championship…… and if the response is it is becuase he hasn’t won a championship – that’s just being immature and childish – that’s like saying it is not OK for a kid to smoke pot, but if he has straight A’s then – sure go ahead – there are two sets of rules… either you like the behavior or you don’t – which is it..
And honestly – if Bud Kraft had an ounce of integrity – the Pats should have fired Bellicheck – if the JEts can fire a strength and conditioning coach becuase his knee eeeeekd out (and everyone lines those guys up) if Penn State can fire Joe PAterno… no way in hell Bellicheck should have been allowed to maintain his position – that my friend is putting profit over everything else – how about when a school like BYU does the right thing and suspends a kid for violating the honor code.. but your right, people will overlook ANYTHING as long as they win.. and this is why sports are today what they are – why we have middle schoolers ‘shirt poppin’ and taunting, and then we bitch at the refs when they call what the rule book says to call…
Basically Navy, we have gone back to Pre-2000 Rules
It we can’t blame GW Bush, then we will blame the REf’s..
It’s funny Navy, that subject never comes up around here.And when it does the slant is: everyone was stealing signals. What do you make of that?