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Eagles Were Very Fortunate To Have Fletcher Cox Fall To 12

The Eagles were very fortunate last night with Fletcher Cox falling to the 11th position in the first round and they did a nice job of moving up to get him.  I went into the draft believing there was no way they were going to be able to move up and get him.

The Eagles knew it was time to move when the Kansas City Chiefs shocked everybody by taking a huge risk at number 12 when they drafted workout warrior Dontari Poe.  He was amazing at the Combine, but was awful during his college career in the mediocre Conference USA.

Cox on the other hand, played passionately during his college career and became a dominant player in the tough Southeastern Conference against the likes of Alabama and LSU.

I believe he’s going to be a tremendous addition to their football team.   He can play both the defensive tackle and the defensive end position, plus he gets off on the football.

Cox plays as hard as Trent Cole and Jason Babin, but he’s much bigger at 6’5″ 295 pounds. I like the thought of the Birds getting a very good player who has size.  I would like to see them get bigger over time.

I’ve got to give it to Jim Washburn, he demands that his defensive linemen give him what they’ve got and those are the only types of players that he wants to line up for him.  Now he’s got a defensive tackle, who gets off the ball like his ends.

You’ve got to give Andy Reid and Howie Roseman credit for a doing a nice job of being aggressive when the opportunity came about they pounced.

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Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 27, 2012 6:49 am

OK we got our man in the 1st. Time to move on to the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
If Coby Fleener is available at 46 the Eagles should take him. If not then I take Vinny Curry and Janoris Jenkins with pick 51. In the third I take a safety, Markel Martin or George Iloaka. 4th round I’d take Nigel Bradham or Keenan Robinson.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
April 27, 2012 7:29 am

Will Cox start? And if he does, how long before dixon starts as well?? I cant wait to see Dixon and Cox lining up beside each other! Dixon Cox tearing up the middle!! Dixon Cox! Dixon Cox! Dixon Cox!!

paulman
paulman
April 27, 2012 7:46 am

To Eaglehaslanded

Fleener will go in top coupld of Selections and don’t be surprised if the Colts take since they have no TE’s on their Roster (Clark and Tamme were released) and the Colts would give new QB Luck a vary familar big target along with Reggie Wayne to start his NFL Career.. I also wound not pass on the Eaagles maybe trading up early in the 2nd Round to get Fleener either with the COlts or if they even pass on him..
EAgles also have no 4th ROund which was traded to Seattle to move up to get DT Cox, the other 4th Roud pick went to the Texans for MLB Ryans
Eagles now have the following picks left

2nd #46
2nd #51
3rd #88
5th #153
6th #194
6th #200
7th #229

Browns and Patriots have a couple of early 2nd Rounders and could be trade partners for the Eagles to move up a few Spots to Select TE Fleener if the Colts don’t take him at #34

DCar
DCar
April 27, 2012 7:53 am

Curry, Wagner/ David & Jenkins tonight, & it’s joygasm time, again tonight.

DixieFan
DixieFan
April 27, 2012 8:02 am

Thought we would move up to JAX to get Cox. They moved up to 12. Tonight I expect Andy to trade back on one of the 2nds and get another choice to replace the 4th round picks that were traded. Think they draft a CB like Boykin and a RB, OT, and a SAM. Tomorrow we target TE, KR, and WR.

nev856
nev856
April 27, 2012 8:20 am

wuth his size ,youth and speed is cox able to also play end !

bsmvideos
April 27, 2012 8:49 am

Did not trade out of the 1st round…

Draft pick has No history of torn ACL…

Not a poster child for “feed the hungry”….

Played in college football’s NFL division (the SEC)…

Did Andy make this pick????

Wow…this might actually be a fun draft!

peli
peli
April 27, 2012 8:51 am

I would love to see the stanford te, and lavonte david out of nebraska to help at wlb. Any way they have to get those two and ill be extremely happy. Would love a safety too, but nobody really looks worth it.

EAGLE Co 32
EAGLE Co 32
April 27, 2012 8:56 am

Great Job EAGLES FO! I was disappointed last year at this time. I went into the draft really hoping that we would take Cox now we have a real stud DT for years.

btc24
btc24
April 27, 2012 9:12 am

I love the pick. I salute the FO on this one. I’m really excited to see what they do tonight as there appears to be some excellent players still on the board that could most likely contribute this season for the Eagles. I’d really like to see them grab Russel Wilson in the 3rd.

wild_bk
wild_bk
April 27, 2012 9:17 am

HOLY SHIT, no one is negative about this pick? All of you negative nancies usually have something bad to say. I am shocked.

As for Cox, I love this pick. We were patient and didnt give up much to get him.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
April 27, 2012 9:32 am

OK….when will Nate Allen and Gary…I mean Kurt Coleman be replaced?

btc24
btc24
April 27, 2012 9:40 am

wild_bk, I think everyone has had pretty good reason to be negative based on prior year drafts and the Eagles’ propensity to over think it. I knew they were going up to get Cox last night but in the back of mind, I’m thinking they’re going to reach on some guy that nobody even saw coming. I knew several years ago when they traded up that Earl Thomas was the guy but then they announce Brandon Graham and I’m left scratching my head. Earl Thomas is now a probowl safety and Brandon Graham has been a non-factor.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
April 27, 2012 9:40 am

The more I think about it, the more I want them to move up to get Fleener if they can. That would make the offense ridiculous. If not, I think they go CB.

Frank22
Frank22
April 27, 2012 9:41 am

Gary, didnt we take him with the 12th pick?

wild_bk
wild_bk
April 27, 2012 9:49 am

I hope that they dont get another safety. There isnt anyone else that good left.

atra1781
April 27, 2012 9:49 am

I would steer clear of Jenkins. He is troubled. Talented but troubled.

I would draft a qb in round 2-3 if they see someone worthy.

Cb, Fs, Lb,

btc24
btc24
April 27, 2012 9:49 am

Yeah, he was the 12th pick. Garry, that is just bad reporting to say we got him at 11.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
April 27, 2012 9:55 am

I’d go LB with the next pick. Still need to add depth at that position, I’m hoping the Eagles have plans to get Fokou the hell out of here. Possibly try Clayton out at strong safety? I believe that was his second position in college..he def has the speed!

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
April 27, 2012 10:02 am

Alot of what I’ve read this morning, have the Eagles getting Lavonte David with their first pick in today’s draft. But supposedly scouts aren’t sure to play him at LB or strong safety, because they say he undersized at LB in NFL.

peli
peli
April 27, 2012 10:05 am

Ive been hearing david being compared to willie t. That he pans out at the weakside.

bsmvideos
April 27, 2012 10:26 am

Darth Fatness still has time to out smart the world with his magical crystal ball.

Trading our 1st round pick to a division rival.

Trading out of the 1st round.

Stockpiling picks for a future that never arrives.

Drafting the oldest 1st rounder in the history of the NFL.

Drafting undersized defensive players.

Drafting one loser after another on the defensive line.

Falling in love with Torn ACL guy or chip on his shoulder guy..

Let’s just hope he’s tied up in a basement somewhere, and somebody else is running this draft.

sullybleedsgreen
sullybleedsgreen
April 27, 2012 10:34 am

I’d like to see them take TE Fleener if he’s still there but if not CB Janoris Jenkins & LaMichael James!!!

sullybleedsgreen
sullybleedsgreen
April 27, 2012 10:36 am

Either way great 1st pick and didn’t have to give up alot for him!

btc24
btc24
April 27, 2012 10:37 am

I don’t see Fleener being there. Courtney Upshaw would be a nice pickup for the Birds.

bsmvideos
April 27, 2012 10:39 am

If Andy Reid makes another solid pick in the second round, then I will be convinced that Jeffery Loser sang the 1979 Kenny Loggins classic
“This is it!” to the 13 year biggest loser.

HOTSEAT ANDY will be a much better coach then “i’ve got all the time in the world, to build for the future” Andy.

I don’t care who it is…As long as it’s not:

Project guy

Switch position guy.

Torn ACL guy

Lot’s of UPSIDE guy.

Gimmick guy.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
April 27, 2012 10:48 am

Do not draft a safety – sign Y Bell in FA right after the draft –

I wanted Curry but that was before when I did not think they could get Cox – Cox and Jenkins can both play DEs – can’t wait till a team comes out on 3rd and 2 and the Birds counter with a DL of Cox, Dixon, Patterson and Jenkins…….
or 3rd and 15 and they get Babin, Landri, Jenkins and Cole..

I think I had that joygasm Dcar talking about

Linebacker – is the next big issue, somewhere remember to find a Kr/Pr –

excellent start to the draft

peli
peli
April 27, 2012 10:57 am

Bsm u almost forgot.. a fastball!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 27, 2012 10:58 am

You want negativity….here it is…really just a question.
Jax gave up a 4th (pick 101) to move from 7 to 5
Why did Birds give up a 4th (pick 114) and 6 (pick 172) to move from 15 to 12?

Otherwise good move. Its the DT most were hoping for. I really liked the way he carried himself last night. Lets hope he works out.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 27, 2012 10:59 am

BSM. I think Seattle took that guy. So he’s off the board.

Erock
Erock
April 27, 2012 11:04 am

Run with the young guns at the safety position. I dunno Navy,had enough of vets coming in and taking time away from these young guys. Im ok with Allen and Coleman this year if the backers improve.I know Allen is everyones fav whipping boy here…im not high on him. But ill give him a season before a vet. I just have thoughts of the worst safety ever Page getting beaten like a drum over and over.He couldnt play on my flag team.

Im feeling Lavonte David with the 46th…what are the chances we get him.

B-vids….Jeffrey Loser…thats a good one.Nice work.Follows it with a Kenny Loggins reference.Only on this site….

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
April 27, 2012 11:07 am

Navy, that is what I was thinking but also Cox on the End on 1-10 since I think that he will play the run better than Babin. I would still like to see them take another big body to back up Dixon since he can’t stay healthy. Gimme a 340-350 lb mountain, but not until late in the draft.

jakedog
jakedog
April 27, 2012 11:09 am

vinnie, what did you like about how he carried himself, how he hugged the comish, the eagles did not expect him to be there, gave up value to get him, don’t sugar coat that, but it looks like they finally drafted a guy on defense who will make an impact early on, the pieces are coming together it seems

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 27, 2012 11:20 am

Simple answer Jake….yes – that was one thing.

BTW I’m not sugar coating what the Eagles’ did. I like the move a lot. Someone just asked for some negativity, that’s all I could come up with.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
April 27, 2012 11:33 am

Vontaze Burfict will be a beast in the NFL….Low risk/ High reward.

It’s great that the Eagles can get him on the cheap because we need an edge on this team.

pheags88
pheags88
April 27, 2012 11:50 am

The Birds need to get Jenkins in round 2. I don’t care about the baggage when it comes to possible superior talent on the field this guy can provide. This secondary needs some help as it stands right now and Jenkins would be a very nice pick without spending the 1st on him.

Then i see whats left and possibly take a luxury pick. I think there will be a run on WRs early so guys like Jeffrey and Randle will likely be gone.

Lamar Miller is very hard to pass on but when you have a young stud in Shady i think taking a RB in the 2nd wouldn’t be too wise….

So i def go Jenkins if he is there with the 1st of our seconds and then probably a LB between David, Wagner, or Kendricks if those big bodyWRs (Jeffrey, Randle) are gone.

3rd round I go Ladarius Green

Possible Draft:
1: Cox
2: Jenkins
2: Randle/ David/Wagner
3: Green

Not bad…

Frank22
Frank22
April 27, 2012 11:51 am

In regards to Nate Allen, he was pretty darn good in coverage before the injury. I know it’s a hard injury to recover from but I like the idea of giving him every opportunity this year.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
April 27, 2012 12:02 pm

Erock – you have the three young guys at Safety – typically the team carries 4 – maybe they carry an extra CB, or count Colt Anderson (but he was hurt at end of last year) so do you draft another (I like the guy from Boise st) or get a vet.. I like the idea (feel free to disagree) of the competition, and I think Y Bell played for Bowles before..

Frank 22 – you are correct – Allen was solid in coverage except for one game where he got tore up by a big rookie (Hicks I think)… I think he got rushed back last year becuase Page was sooo bad.

Bugsy – lots and lots of combos – I don’t see Washburn wanting a 345 pound guy.. but that is just me talkin out my butt, there is another cat named Thorton flying under the radar that was a practice squad guy last year – he goes like 310 or so and apparently it is an extremely solid 310..

I think LB and possibly a CB (someone to challenge for the 3rd CB role)

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
April 27, 2012 12:03 pm

Oh yeah – and Burflict with our 7th round draft pick….

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
April 27, 2012 12:10 pm

Navy- I guess with Ryans and the athleticism of Cox and Jenkins, he is not as worried about teams running up the middle as I am. I like having a 6’4″ dude in the middle to knock down passes too. I think that getting David or Wagner makes a lot of sense before the end of round 3. I don’t think that any of the safeties are as good as what is on the team. (not that they are great). Who do you guys like at S?

btc24
btc24
April 27, 2012 12:26 pm

Songs, are you really still talking about Burfict?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 27, 2012 12:38 pm

I think CB and then Cousins. I think a Cb more likely than LB in the 2nd round…though all I read/hear are good things about Lavonte David.

And then…Burfict off waivers from the SaskatchewanRough Riders in 2013. Perfict!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 27, 2012 12:45 pm

If the Colts do not take Fleener the Eagles should move up for him. I wanted all defense in the first three rounds, however, Fleener’s ability is to great to pass up on if he is there. Good chance the colts will take Upshaw. I know they are looking to bolster there defense!!! Thanks for the info Paulman.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
April 27, 2012 12:47 pm

I really hope Philly signs Burfict when he’s not drafted!

And I’m being dead serious!

Philadelphia Soul need a marijuana smoking lazy pos LBer all day!

Iggles
Iggles
April 27, 2012 12:58 pm

@BSM… Well, the Browns now have the crown of drafting the oldest player in history in Weeden from OK State. At least our “old guy” made it to starting lineup by midyear and was doing well by end of season. Should be that much better in ’12 with whole off-season with Mudd. Better hope Mudd’s health remains good so he can stay here a couple more years.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 27, 2012 1:09 pm

Take Burfict with a 7th rounder and be done with it.

Frank22
Frank22
April 27, 2012 1:10 pm

I think CB Jenkins will be off the board whne the eagles pick.

-Mykal Kendricks
-Boykin or TRumaine Johnson would be a likely senario.

Frank22
Frank22
April 27, 2012 1:16 pm

similar mock draft on profootballtalk.com

reed_richards
reed_richards
April 27, 2012 1:25 pm

it is being reported that Browns are in discussions with the Packers and Eagles about a trade for Colt McCoy.

Erock
Erock
April 27, 2012 1:31 pm

4 qb’s on the roster?Kafka,they just signed Edwards,Vick,and now looking to trade picks for a back-up? I think that report is suspect.