I know Eagles new head coach Chip Kelly had to be sitting somewhere staring at 49ers young quarterback Colin Kaepernick imagining him on the Eagles roster. I’m sure Kelly would love to have that young man running his uptempo, read option offense for the Eagles in the upcoming year. Unfortunately, the young man isn’t likely to be leaving the San Francisco organization for a long time.
It’s all about the quarterback in the NFL. If your quarterback plays well, usually your entire team plays well and you win football games.
In the NFC title battle, Matt Ryan passed the Falcons out to a 17-0 lead by getting the ball to his three outstanding wide receivers Julio Jones, Roddy White and future Hall of Famer, tight end Tony Gonzalez. Ryan made some great reads in the first half, followed by some quick,exact decisions and precise on the money throws.
He completed the first half scoring with a touchdown throw to Gonzalez that was outstanding. Ryan and the Falcons dominated the first half and walked off the field with a 24-14 lead. They weren’t able to score any more points in the game and that cost them a trip to the Super Bowl.
Amazingly, the inexperienced Kaepernick was not phased by playing from behind in the NFC Championship game. The youngster had no problem keeping his poise with crowd noise off the charts and the Atlanta defense stacked up to stop him from running.
He operated like a seasoned playoff-tested quarterback because he stayed disciplined and focused. The young man made adjustments at the line of scrimmage before nearly every play.
First he analyzed what defense and coverage the Falcons were in, then he changed plays and moved his teammates into position before executing the plays to perfection. Kaepernick did this while the Georgia Dome crowd screamed to the top of their lungs and a national television audience sat and watched in amazement.
The Falcons defense came into the game with the intention of stopping Kaepernick from beating them with his legs and they were successful doing that because the young quarterback only ran for 21 yards on two carries. Surprisingly, the former Nevada quarterback beat Atlanta with his leadership, his mind, and his arm.
He handed the ball off to Frank Gore when he ran the read option, rather than keeping the ball and trying to get outside like he did last week against the Packers. The Falcons outside linebackers stayed outside to stop the quarterback from getting outside, but that opened up a lane for Gore and LaMichael James to gash them.
Atlanta’s secondary took wide receiver Michael Crabtree away from him for most of the day, but Kaepernick had no problem with that and simply got the ball to tight end Vernon Davis. The talented Pro Bowl tight end caught five passes for 106 yards and one touchdown.
Ryan made a couple of mistakes in the second half, which resulted in two turnovers which hurt the Falcons. After scoring 24 points in the first half, Atlanta wasn’t able to score a single point in the second half.
Kaepernick played with his brains and his hose, a great one at that, along with a great running game, exactly the game plan the eagles can execute with foles
Stop, just stop with all the praise on every quarterback that’s at least seen a tanning salon, you have a very good quarterback on your roster, you guys sound like little bitches complaining that your girlfriend’s ass isn’t like jaylos
Talking about stating the obvious, there are about 25 teams that could use a QB like him.
About 20-25 other Teams could use Kapernick as their QB, G-Man too..
Look at QB Ryan Nassib from Syracuse, Zac Sysert from Miami (Ohio)
or even a Sean Renfree from Duke to Be Drafted by the Eagles
Lots of coaches would like to have Colin Kaepernick today. A lot of coaches would like to have Joe Flacco today too. If one of these guys throws three INTs in the Super Bowl and pukes in the huddle then nobody will like him.
These two guys are playing for great teams. Put them on a shitty team and they look like Nick Foles and Mike Vick.
but great QB’s make players better! look at how crabtree has blossomed with kaepernick at the helm– i thought the TD throws to Boldin by Flacco were just incredible–you are correct baltimore and SF are excellent teams, made better by two outstanding QB’s
Agree Irish. I’ve been saying that every week. Put rg3 luck Wilson and capernick on the eagles this year and no way are they in the playoffs. All of them would be lucky to maybe win 5-6 games at the most. ESP Wilson and capernick who get to play with the top 2 defenses on the league. If the eagles were on the road in Atl or NE yesterday the offense would need to score 40 plus to have a shot. Hopefully we get this draft an defensive coach right
Pheags, in all fairness to RG3, he was put on a shitty team this year and still made the playoffs. He completely put that team on his back.
The attribute that distinguishes Kaepernick is the arm, but some want to talk about the legs, it will be is arm that elevates him If coached properly, that and a solid running game, some fans love the flash of rg3, but as a quarterback in terms of tools necessary to be great, it’s Kaepernick
But again, stop drooling over something you don’t have, fan up and play up the good qb you have here, be glad for a new beginning, with a new coach, or go join the 49ers or redskins or wherever Vick ends up
If that had been Andy Reid coaching, he would have never had the discipline to stick with the running game. Vick would have never had the discipline to give the ball to the runningback instead of run it himself.
Hopefully, Chip Kelley will have a disiplined football team. It seems like it from his past work and present press conference.
There are a ton of Quarterbacks that can do what Kaperneck did. They have been around since the days of Turner Gill at Nebraska and Major Harris at West Virginia. The NFL just never wanted them.
It is laughable when I read that this years Quarterback crop does not have talent. There is talent every year. You just have to pick a QB that can operate your system or adapt your system to the QB’s strength.
It was fun to watch the four remaining teams make open field tackles. The Eagles players and coaches stunk this past season.
I hope Chip does a complete roster overhaul. I can live with a couple of losing seasons if it means a superbowl victory. However, the Harbaughs have proved that you can begin the playoff ride, right away with good coaching and talent evaluation.
no there are not a ton of QB’s that can do that!! what distinguishes kaepernick et al from the QB’s you mention is the accuracy and arm strength…
Did you notice that the one time Caperneck did run, he hit the ground as soon as he got around a defender.
Vick said he could not learn how to do it. Russel Wilson also has learned how to avoid major contact. or absorb or deflect hits.
The smart thing the Redskins and 49ers did, was look at what the player did in college and ask him to do the same thing. Their are too many rocket scientists coaching in the NFL insisting on staying in the pocket and all the other crap they teach.
Bet Randle El wishes he was coming into the league now.
Hell could you imagine Vick coming out now?
Kap is basically what Vick COULD have been with proper coaching and team built to his strengths. Vick has always thrown a pretty, deep ball – ATL and the league in general just had no clue what to do with the guy – and ATLs team (and coaching) was ass.
How about Cunningham or Kordell? Hell Steve Young – he woulda got it right much sooner. The era of the stiff legged QB is over. Folk are gonna want big, strong, accurate and fast. Looking at the success of the young guys this year and Cam last year – why would you want anything differently.
**** NEWS
Joe Banner said this to Peter King…
“We removed ourselves from the process,” Banner said. “We really liked Chip. He’s intriguing, a very different thinker, and very smart. But you could see he was uncertain what he wanted to do. He may be in Philadelphia 10 years or longer and have a terrific career. But the fact he committed to Tampa Bay last year, backed out, then seemed all year to be leaning toward going to the NFL, then being so uncertain with us, we just felt it was too big a gamble. If there was no ambivalence, we may have offered him the job.”
Irish this is my main concern with Kelly, if the team struggles in years 1 and 2 does he start looking to go back to college? I think all this rebuilding talk is nonsense he needs to start winning right away to take away any doubts he can be successful on the NFL level.
Sounds like this will be a pattern for some time to come….Joey will continue to comment about all things Philly, whether he is asked or not. The Jeffy – Joey verbal war will continue for some time to come.
I really wish we would actually look to compete with a top level team….trying to “out do” the Browns is like Alabama trying to “out do” Hofstra (if they even still have a football team, which for some reason I think they disbanded a few years ago).
In a related story, Chip Kelly could also use a young linebacker like Patrick Willis and a young wide reciever like Julio Jones.
And a TE like Vernon Davis, WR A Boldin & Safety Ed Reed
I agree bsm, Reid never would have stuck with he running game and perhaps then we wouldn’t be heaping all this praise on this young man, it’s not all talent related, you have to put your players in a situation that exploits their talents , something Reid wasn’t good at, often did the opposite, especially with his quarterbacks, tried to turn mcnabb into an accurate, timing qb, ridiculous
I am hopeful things will change with Kelly
Banner v. Lurie, soap opera continues, who gives a crap about his so called ambivalence but goes on to win a super bowl with the eagles, that’s a pathetic statement from banner
1 – I thought the Kaepernick experiment (as I called it) would be a disaster. I was wrong there.
The reason I felt this was wrong was because I thought the team would be fractured internally if they went through any adversity. Felt like taking out a guy who was the top ranked passer in the league at the time and who was in the NFC champ game last year for an unproven 2nd year player could have blown up disasterously if the team lost a couple games or he played poorly.
That didn’t happen. Team carried the kid through his early games, and now he’s non fire. Whoops.
2 – The fact that another team has a good young QB, does not preclude the fact that the Eagles may also have one.
3. Kaepernick sat on the bench and practiced only for 21 games before he got his 1st start in his 2nd season….though he did have 7 other appearances before his first start.
Lets compare:
1st start:
Kap 16 of 23 for 243 2 and 0….scored 36 pts in a win
Foles 21 of 46 for 204 0 and 2…scored 6 in a loss
Huge advantage for Kaepernick here. Obviously the year and a half in practice and the previous 7 times on the field helped him and he was better prepared for the first game. Plus his coaches d\id not ask him to do as much.
2nd start
Kap 16 of 25 for 231 1 and 1….scored 31 pts in a win
Foles 16 of 21 for 119 0 and 0…22 pts in a loss
Again advantage for kaepernick. He playing more efficiently than Foles at this point.
3rd start
Kap 21 of 32 for 208 0 and 0…scored 13 in a loss
Foles 22 of 34 for 251 1 and 0….33 points in a loss
Advantage Foles here. Nice progression into his 3rd start, wouldn’t you say? Improving each week.
4th start
Kap 19 of 23 for 185 0 and 0…score 27 in a win
Foles 32 of 51 for 381 2 and 0…score 23 in a win
Have to give the advantage to Foles again. In his best game as a pro led the 4th Q comeback. Very impressive game for a 4th start.
5th start
Kap 14 of 25 for 221 4 and 0…scored 41 in a win
Foles16 of 33 for 180 1 and 1….scored 13 in a loss
Advantage Kaepernick. His “coming out” game against NE. Foles with some rookie troubles.
6th start
Kap19 of 36 for 244 1 and1…scored 13 in a loss
Foles 32 of 48 for 345 1 and 1….score 20 in a loss
Advantage Foles in the broken hand game. Really strong performance from Foles with one throw he’s like back. Responded well by putting the next 2 passes right on the $$. Kaepernick with expected rookie struggles this week, just like Foles the week before.
So……just saying,…..
looks like 3-3 for me over those first 6 starts.
Vinnie and Jake I have a question? Do you think these teams that rushed and hired coaches would have been better off waiting until after the Super Bowl so that Greg Roman and Jim Caldwell could be interviewed.?
LMAO!
Are you seriously comparing Foles to Kap – ’cause we both no basic stats hardly tell the whole story – well I know that and anyone with real football knowledge knows that – but okay keep playing that game.
Yes I am.
Laugh all you want. Just because you hate that Foles is our Qb, does not negate the fact that he did extremely well as a rookie this past year.
Foles did NOT play extremely well as a rookie this past year. He played Okay – at best.
Russel, Wilson, Rg3, Luck and Kap played extremely well as a rookie. Ryan and Cam and Ben played extremely well as rookies.
Foles – not so much. But okay. Keep drinking that kool-aid.
kapernich didnt play as a rookie. He might have played a handfull of snaps at best. He is in hiu second year.
I know – I always lump him in though just cause he didn’t see any significant playing time ’till this year.
Also right now Foles is just another QB on the roster. No one has been named starter. That is still yet to be determined.
You guys have to remember that Alex Smith was never Jim Harbaugh’s guy..Harbaugh really liked Kapernick in College, liked his passion,his aggressiveness, and his overall Coachability & Leadership.. Alex Smith was on a 1 Year Deal this Season for the 49ers only because the 49ers failed to get Peyton Manning last Off-Season and does not fit into Harbaugh’s Future plans
It’s not the deep ball, it’s the intermediate throw, that has to be thrown quickly, accurately, and with velocity, in a tight soon to be closed window, that’s what I saw with Kaepernick, and haven’t seen it quite like that since elway
True Jake very impressive and still gets good touch on other throws.
I’m rooting for the Niners for he Bowl this year…..Boy
some organizations just know how to build champions.
Niners 30
Ravens 27
Don’t matter to me Songs as long as Atlanta and NE is home watching I’m happy.
I’m rooting for the Niners for he Bowl this year…..Boy
There’s a surprise! lol
Irish…that is what fans do when there’s no hope whatsoever for the team they grew up loving and invested in with no return.
Reality
Real shocker you chose the 49ers. Esp seeing how we predicted it 3 weeks ago.
NO SONGS, what real fans do, is continue to root for their teams, & don’t jump ship for the next flavor of the day, during bad times, & times of adversity. You are NOT a fan, & are, was, & always will be, a bandwagon, front running, FRAUD, who roots for color, & the name on the back. Stop continuing to make an @$$ out of yourself! It’s embarrassing!
Yes DCar. Very true.
I am going with the older Brother and the Ravens for Ray LEwis final Game in the NFL..
My Darkhorse Player of the Game will be Ravens RB Bernard Pierce (Temple) who I wanted the Eagles to Draft last year in the 4th/5th Round) for he will have a long,productive Career and knows how to protect the Ball and Block unlike Bryce Brown who may have more talent as a Runner, but is not as fundamentally sound as Pierce.. In fact I expect Bryce Brown to be out of the NFL entirely by 2014 if he does not dedicate himself 100% with Ball Security this Off-Season.. Chip Kelly will not put up with the continual Mental Mistakes that the Previous Coaches did.. Kelly will give Brown every chance to correct his ball-securing issues and build up his Upper body strength, but in the end, it will be up to the player Brown Himself) to correct this and I saw very little in his running style to show that he learned anything from his earlier fumbles.. Still was carrying the ball in the wrong arm half the time and like a loaf of bread the other half of the time.. This doesn’t get corrected by the Summer Camp/Pre-Season, Brown is not even on this Roster moving forward
Ravens 26 – 49ers 24 in a Barn Burner and exciting Great Super Bowl
Akers misses a last second 53-Yard FG to Secure the Win for the Ravens
Bernard Pierce and Ray Lewis are Super Bowl MVP’s ..
The Ghost of Edgar Allen Poe with the whispers of his Classic “The Tell-Tale Heart” are simply too much for the 49ers to overcome…
Vincent Price reading of the Tell Tale Heart is one of the best record’s I ever heard.
I just read “The Poe Shadow” by Matthew Pearl last week for a book club. The fiction novel starts at Poe’s funeral and tries to uncover the reasons for the mysterious death of Edgar Allen Poe. It was a good discussion
Nice, I have a nice book that I got for myself last Christmas with most of his Poe’s works from his books, short stories to poems and everything else in between.. It’s a great Read when in the mood for the Human Emotion of Fear, even a little “Psychosis” and even “Sheer Madness”.
Kaepernick was a three sport star in high school but received one ride for football and went with it
Anymore it’s about the hype , not the talent, some can discern it like harbaugh did, cause everyone now would draft kap in the top three probably over rg3 and luck
This Chip Kelly hire reminds me of when Mudd and Washburn was brought in and the organization and lapdog fans in here was acting as if those 2 over the hill losers were stud 1st round picks.
Please go to the archive and look at those articles and I told everyone back then that if a team celebrate position coaches then they’re grasping at straws.
A winning organization don’t roll out position coaches like splash free agent signings…losing organizations do.
Now?
A new Gimmick coach with little players that will get smashed against imposing defenses.
2-12
WHO CARES WHAT YOU THINK….YOU ARE A REDSKIN LOVER….GO PLAY WITH YOU HOG-BUDDIES…..YOU ARE A FRAUD AND A LOSER.
YOU ARE NOT AN EAGLES FAN, AND WE COULD CARE LESS WHAT A LOSER LIKE YOU HAS TO SAY ABOUT THIS TEAM.
GO WEAR YOUR RGIII JERSEY AND LEAVE YOU LOSER.
Greenfan, couldn’t have said it better myself.
correction 2-14
I am rooting for the Ravens to win the SB so that we will have one stupid poster try and write that the Eagles beat the Ravens this year, so we really aren’t that far from being a SB team….you watch….somebody will actually try and make that ridiculous point
You mean over Newton, Locker, Gabbert and Ponder.
UGH – 2011 not the best 1st round QB draft.
How about Cinci taking Dalton the pick before Kaepernick?
Hindsight is always so much clearer.
Yeah. Newton. Horrible pick. *rolls eyes*
It would be fitting for the more unheralded brother John to win, Jim is a loud mouth, although good coach, average, below average pro qb, John came up through the eagles, let’s pull for the ravens and our somewhat local boy , formerly called joe flaccid by yo, now joe full hard on flacco, ravens 35 49ers 31
I agree. Jim acts like a dick a lot of the time.
Though for thelife of me I cannot beliefe Joe “I’m Elite” Flacco actually led a team to the SB.
He’s played himeself into a $100 Million Contract over these last 2 Postseason Runs that he has had.. Protects the ball and doesn’t take negative plays.. Play’s smart which keeps his Team in the Game
Songs. Last we heard you were rooting with a pigs snout for RG3 ..now the nine ers ,careful of those ankles jumping from bandwagons….one new years resolution..you can’t ,when chip Kelly and the,birds are winning allow you to hitch to our wagon….your a complete phony ,transparent as Saran wrap…In evaluating QBS how about we al get real here ..we had an offensive O line with fireman and pedestrians protecting floes ,what knapper nick had was a clean uniform,let’s see if Foles has a bit more decisiveness with a clean green shirt on,before we rush to judgement…in the secondary guys wrapped guys up and took them down to the ground,I can’t remember that all year long in Eagle land..we sucked under AR ,guys lacked intestinal fortitude..let’s stop analyzing a good chicken sandwich when the ingredients are chicken shit with mayo..
No No…you missed when he switched to WIlson for a week.
So it went Vick to RGIII to Wilson to Kaepernick.
Color blinds the senses, judgement, rational thinking, & reality!
What makes me laugh is that this kid “Songs” keeps praising Jim Harbrough, saying he plays smash mouth football. What he don’t seem to understand is that the guy is running Kelly’s offense. LOL
Interesting fact for everyone. The past three Superbowl winners faced the Eagles in the Eagles’ home opener the past three years. Saints (2009), Packers (2010), and Giants (2011). Now possibly Ravens (2012).
49ers built from obscurity while Lurie was claiming the Eagles were “The Golden Standard”
Now they may have another dynasty in rainbow sodomy land.
This organization is fundamentally flawed from the top down.
Chip Kelly well fail miserably.
Paste it.
First of all Songs, learn some rudimentary rules of grammar. Reading your posts are like reading a 5 year old’s. Second, rainbow sodomy land? Wow. Really showing some class. Aren’t you a Redskins fan? Go frolic around with their chat boards and talk about whether RG3 will even be ready for week 1. You’re the biggest fraud Eagles’ fan I’ve ever seen. And not once have you ever posted anything of substance. All of us were really excited when you announced your loyalty to the Skins. Now GTFO.
What makes me laugh is that this kid “Songs” keeps praising Jim Harbrough, saying he plays smash mouth football. What he don’t seem to understand is that the guy is running Kelly’s offense. LOL
Irish?
Kelly’s offense?
You see those massive offensive linemen on the Ravens?
Do you see those imposing receivers?
X’s and O’s are just that.
You need players not gimmicks
It works on the college level….not the pro level.
I just hope new head coach Chip Kelly stops Howie from wanting to draft 5’11” linebackers like Kendricks and 5’9” cornerbacks like Boykins
and obtaining and playing a 5-11″ 195lbs QB like Mike Vick…
Him listed as 6-1′ 210lbs is Bullshit…
Yeah the 49er run Kelly’s offense you nitwit – the team you be going on about bringing in a smash mouth coach. Don’t play it off like you been talking about the Ravans, you ass.
Why don’t you just come out and say it Songs…. You could overlook Mudd and Washburn, and Reid and all the losing. But when they put in a white QB you had to move on… that was more than you could accept, so you moved on to a team with a black QB. First it was the Skins then it was the Seahawks and now it’s the 49ers.
Do you think everyone is stupid, and don’t know that?
How would you like to be me…. we have not had an Irish QB since McNabb…errr.. McMahon
Are you and the rest of these assholes serious? Many fans of these team were outraged when theywitnessed the venom directed at Mcnabb, but especially Vick as starting qbs of this team. Vick was catching the same shit even when he was a MVP candidate in 2010. He recvd more love from non eagles fan. when some pointed out that a disturbing amount of the vitriol was racially motivated, assholes like many on this board used the old faithful “playing the race card” defense.
But somehow Songs being pissed at how this organization has fucked things up and those chooses to route for another team THAT HAPPENS TO HAVE A BLACK QB IS LEGITIMATE RACISM? I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt that MOST that hated on Vick the entire time did so for personal non racial reasons. BUT THE GLARING ARROGANT DOUBLE STANDARD WITH SONGS DEFINITELY PROVES OTHERWISE.
Now remember brewski there are no racists here. LOL, seriously though we need to stop throwing those accusations around because I think we’re all Eagles fans here who want to see the team do well. Even Songs, don’t let the Seattle/Niners/Skins talk fool you.
Colin Kaepernick is playing well and deserves his accolades, but Mark Sanchez, Carson Palmer and Ryan Fitzpatrick could have done just as well. Kaepernick is a product of the massive accumulated talent on the 49er entire team. A total stiff in Alex Smith took that team to the championship game last and should have won is that dingbat just caught a punt.
TS Johnson. Love it. Look at results. Ignore them and make blanket unsubstiantiated statements. The TS Johnson way.
Vinnie. Love it. Cherry picks stats to fit a point that everyone else knows to be completely wrong. The Vinnie way.
Russel Wilson vs Nick Foles
(I already did Kaepernick’s first 6 vs Foles and they came out pretty even…lets look at Wilson (who is clearly AMAZING!) and Foles (who for some of you is just “ok”)
Preseason – the 2 were identical…same atts, same yrds, same comps, same tds/ints.
1st start:
Wilson: 18 of 34 for 153 1 & 1….16 pts in a loss
Foles 21 of 46 for 204 0 and 2…scored 6 in a loss
Guess its advantage Wilson just for less turnovers. Both pretty underwhelming first performances.
2nd start
Wilson 15 of 20 for 151 1 and 0….27pts in a win
Foles 16 of 21 for 119 0 and 0…22 pts in a loss
Advantage Wilson. higher % and tds and the win while FOles struggled.
3rd start
Wilson 10 of 21 130 2 and 0….14 pts in win
Foles 22 of 34 for 251 1 and 0….33 points in a loss
Advantage Foles. DIdn’t win, but performed very well. Wilson lucky his D held opponent to 12 pts. Foles with a much better game.
4th start
Wilson: 17 of 25 for 160 0 and 3….13 pts in a loss
Foles 32 of 51 for 381 2 and 0…score 23 in a win
Big advantage Foles here as Wilson continued to struggle. Another week under 14 pts. And 3 picks. Foles with his best game as a pro. Good thing TSJohnson wasn’t the coach…might have benched the Wilson at this point eh?.
5th start
Wilson 19 of 25 for 221 1 and 2….scored 16 in a win
Foles16 of 33 for 180 1 and 1….scored 13 in a loss
Well….pretty even here…Wilson with the extra turnover, both pretty anemic. I suppose the advantage goes to Wilson because he “did enough to win” but pretty lucky he’s got 2 wins where the D held the other teams to 12 pts.
6th start
Wilson: 16 of 27 for 293 3 and 0….24 pts in a win
Foles 32 of 48 for 345 1 and 1….score 20 in a loss
Advantage Wilson for tossing those 3 tds.
SO there…..are they areally all that different? Yet one is a superstar and the other, according to many of you, is a bum.
BTW – Game 7…
Wilson 9 of 23 for 122 0 and 1….
I could imagine the comments on here if Foles had done that in his 7th week.
I see Vinnie won’t quit with the stats comparison that means little of nothing.
The ONLY reason Wilson wasn’t a higher draft pick was b/c he was short. 6ft he’s undersized for the position, but best believe he is a first round talent.
Foles…first round talent. I’ve watched Seattle play and San Fran play – and I’ve watched the Eagles play – also Vinnie conveniently leaves out all those eye popping running stats of Kap and Wilson which makes them HEADS & SHOULDERS better than the one-dimensional (mediocre one dimensional) Foles.
Buy Foles is GREAT – right up there with all those rookie of the year candidates.
So what does all this mean, vinnie, you have so called eagles fans constantly stating that foles sucks, is ass, doesn’t have “it” but facts state otherwise, what are you trying to tell us in this roundabout way, just say it vinnie, stop besting around the bush, as Sam kinison as the history teacher in Back to School, JUST SAY ITTTTTTTTT…lol
I’m sorry – what’s that win/loss record again?
Oh okay.
Kap
415 yds rushing 5 TD
Wilson
489 yds rusing 4 TD
Foles
42 yds rushing 1 TD
QBR/RAT
Foles – 45.3/79.1
Wilson – 69.6/100
Kap – 92.9/81.3
We good go in the win/loss category – we could break it down on which of these QBs can actually throw a ball over 20 yards (hint: it’s not Nick Foles).
But yeah Foles is a BEAST. lol
What was that about results again?
That should say:
“We could go in the win/loss category – we could break it down on which of these QBs can actually throw a ball over 20 yards (hint: it’s not Nick Foles).”
“We could go into the win/loss category – we could break it down on which of these QBs can actually throw a ball over 20 yards (hint: it’s not Nick Foles).”
SMH
You are comparing 2 guys who played an entire year to a guy who played a less than 1/2.
Both Kaepernick and Wilson improved greatly as the year went along.
Who is cherry picking?
I was comparing apples to apples.
Foles/Wilson and Kaepernick were similar over their first 6 starts. (wqith Kaep clearly putting up the best #s with Foles and Wilson remarkably similar….Foles ahead in most aspects) Foles did not get the chance to continue…the other two did.
The fact that Wilson dramatically improved from week 8 – 16 is precisely why Foles should be given the chance to continue.
Again – apples to apples:
Over first 6 starts (lets include all yards -rushing and passing.
Kaepernick
1332 passing. 177 rushing. total:1509
8 tds passing 3 rushing….11 total and 2 ints.
Wilson
1108 passing. 109 rushing total 1217
6 tds passing 0 rushing….6 ints
Foles 1480 passing 42 rushing total 1522
5 tds passing….1 td rushing……4 ints
Oh,….and if Wilson had been on the eagles and produced exactly what he had with Seattle – his record would have been 0-6 over the first 6…..though Kaep would have been 4-2.
AGAIN – Comparing first 6 starts to first 6 starts – and that’s all we can do because Foles didn’t get to continue playing and improving…..he grades out extremely well to those guys as far as yrds gaineed, points production etc.
You don’t see it because you hate Foles shaggy hair.
Comparing the anmount of Starts from 1 QB to another is stupid Vinnie, Diffenrece Teams, different circumstances, why even bother..
It’s not an Apples to Apples type of Comparison, no base-line metric you can use on how a Player Performed, Who their Opponenets, What the Game Plan was, Injuries, Weather Conditions, Etc,etc.. At the end of the Day, it’s about the Wins,
How many Wins did you lead your Team to.. and if you don’t lead them to Victories often enough, you lose your job..
S
“.and if Wilson had been on the eagles and produced exactly what he had with Seattle”
Really?
Who did Foles play in his first 7 games he played?
Who did Wilson play his first 7 games?
Who did Kap play in his?
Oh and how many of those passing yards in all those lost games were done in garbage time? How many were dink and dunk passes that did nothing to move the chains? How many passes over 20 yards did Foles complete? But he’s comparable.
OKAY.
and heres the problem with guys like vinnie…… they grind and grind and grind their thoughts over and over again and when you stand up to say no…. it means you are a Foles hater,
Ill say it over and over again….. I support Foles. But… we know nothing. He looked ok. He’s tall. He has a good arm.
tsjohnson is a foles hater.
Coack Kelly needs a QB like Kaepernick is like saying GCobb.com needs a Sport Reporter/Journalist like David Habersham …
In Eagles news
just heard Jim Herrmann turned down the job to be DC, if im the Eagles and want to go 3-4, I’d look at Winston Moss from Green Bay, i know he was interviewed a couple years ago to be a HC, hes been around a while and has the experience, and wont be moving up in Green Bay with Dom Capers there, i’d give him a shot.
I believe that Moss has Titke of Asst HC of the Packers and still is under Contract with them. So unless he gets a “Promotion” from another Club, he’s off-limits to talk to another Team unless he was Terminated by the Pacjers or offered the HC Title from another Team
Clubs do this (Name Coaches Asst HC to be able to protect other Teams of comi g in and scooping up young Talented Coaches like Moss)
Now the Eagkes could talk to Packers LB Coach Kevin Green since a DC would be a promotion for him..
You don’t need to see any more of foles, kap, or any other qb that has played 5 nfl games, winners,nleaders don’t need a large sample of data, trust me Kelly already knows what he has in foles, if you can’t see the obvious talent, screw the stats, youdon’t know football that well, if you put foles in that game yesterday by his skill set, poise, he would have had success, especially with that surrounding cast
The emphasis should be to build around foles, and I think that is what Kelly saw in foles, enticed him here, he said as much in his press conference, but some of you here just blinded by agenda or just don’t know football too well
Im with you… Foles CAN be something.
Sure Foles CAN be something – and I’ve said REPEATEDLY that with the right team Foles could likely be a Ponder/Smith/Flacco type and guess what – all those guys were in the playoffs and one is going to the super bowl.
But to act like Foles is as talented as ANY of the other rookies who were slaying it up often and early – GTFOH – THAT’S the problem with Vinnie. He makes ish up and tries to turn Foles into something he is not.
7 games from all the guys above and you saw REAL talent – some more raw then the other but who needed more than 7 games to know Luck, RG3, Kap, Wilson, Cam and of those guys were the real deal.
Foles is OK – and if that’s who we end up rising with than fine – but let’s not act like we won the QB lottery like some of these other teams. We. Did. Not.
I agree with the last line. There is no question as to who the qb is in sea, wash, san fran. We are atill wondering about vick… nuff said.
Tsjohnson, Why bother comparing Foles to those other guys? Those guys play on good teams. If they played here last year they would have a shit record too.
Besides, so what if they are good QBs they are not available.
Um…you’re barking up the wrong tree.
VINNIE has been making the comparisons – I was pointing why that was idiotic. And it is.
AND I’ve said repeatedly the TEAM did the QB (Vick or Foles) any favors BUT to act like Foles is so measurable better than Vick even is a joke. Under the right circumstances we can likely have success with Foles. But lets not overstate what’s going on.
All guys like us do is remknd vinnie to put down kolb and foles jock and watch the actual games.
With the NFL’s emphasis on offense, a lot of teams will be thirsty for a QB with accuracy and mobility. There are some at the college level cerebral enough to handle the NFL.
First it’s pretty offensive given all of the virtually impossible to extremely difficult passes in extremely high pressure situations Kaepernick has made that a lot fans and reporters alike are complicit in labeling him “A run of the mill athletic QB resting on the good fortune of the 49ers front office” like Joe Montana had Freddie “FredEx…the People’s Champion” Mitchel and Todd Stinkston instead of Jerry Rice and John Taylor…like the 49ers had Kurt Coleman and not Ronnie Lott, like Aaron Rodgers had Akeem Jordan and not Clay Matthews. EVERY DOMINANT TEAM is a byproduct of overwhelming good talent and exceptional coaching, there just isn’t any other way, but there is clearly a double standard that a lot of people are more than willing to stand in line put there stamp of approval on a double standard in perception I guess because for some ignorance is bliss.
As to someone’s comments about Griffin, Wilson and Kaepernick…I mean I guess you could assert some type of racial bias, but it’s a stretch given those teams and those players were the most dominant, dynamic and exciting to watch in the league when it counted at the end of the season. Songs may in fact have a racial bias, built to point to the top three teams and the top 3 QBs of the end the season as proof of that is fairly questionable and reflects poorly on YOU simply because WHEN those players have been White in the past there’s been shortage of credit given where credit is due.
Well, it’s good to see good football…this Superbowl will be worth the watch.
The Eagles sucks ass and will never win a Superbowl
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Ravens hired former Eagles DC Juan Castillo
Vinnie has been more right than wrong , especially on quarterbacks , tsjihnson, you need to chill our with all you love for other qbs, especially tbe brothers and half.brothers, we have a good qb here , take off your shaded glasses, just because somebody does things differently than the qb here for tbe last twenty years dont mean he’s not as good , you don’t know as much as you think you know
Vinnie hasn’t been right about shit. It’s not about the brothers or half brothers – Luck – you know him – he’s as white as they come. I can’t help that the rest of the young QBs who were lighting it up this year were black or half black.
Though I will say I like Cousins – If we could have him here that wouldn’t be such a bad thing – he’s shown some real promise.
I think Cousins would disappoint you in the long run, tsjohnson5.
Foles ran a 5.14 in the 40 yard dash – Cousins ran a 4.93… Those two are as slow as it gets.
It’s no surprise Griffin 4.41, Kaepernick 4.53, and Wilson 4.55 are among the fastest QB.
Newton 4.59 is fast too. I think he is perfect proof that having a good team around you is important. He is likely a better QB than any of the others.
I know Cousins isn’t fast but he has shown he can get it done under tough circumstances – playoff game aside. If we’re gonna go pocket passer I like him better than Foles. Obviously it’s not an option, but I think there is promise there.
Newton is a BEAST – he’s been doing it pretty big considering he’s the most talented player on an otherwise nobody (Smith is old the RBs aren’t producing) roster. His D has lost it for him many a game this past season. And yes he is definitely proof that football is a team game.
Good thing they kept Riveria ’cause I think they would have gone after Kelly hard and we might be talking Bradley instead of Kelly and I’m super glad we have Kelly.
Luck is no better than foles like rg3 is no better than kap, and based on recent performance kap is better, especially with his hose, you can throw out all your love for the white qb who will never play here, it doesn’t disguise your iinnate bias against a white qb under center for the birds, I have the lot of you passive aggresive mofos figured out, you are outttttta here
Luck is no better than Foles?
Nuff said.
Jakedog the only one who sees color here is you.
Read what this dumbass just said, I compared one white qb to another white qb and he makes the charge of racism, meanwhile he talks trash without stats, scouts reports on one of the best young qbs , nick foles, this is what I am talking about, expose these racists
Tsjohnson , keep posting, I will expose you for what you are, a dumb ass racist, I will not need help if you continue to post, your choice, make it easy on me and hard on yourself