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Eagles QB Nick Foles Believes He Will Start

NickFoles1Eagles second-year quarterback Nick Foles isn’t intimidated by the prospects of competing with Michael Vick and the other quarterbacks on the Birds roster for the starting job.  Despite not having the foot speed to run with the other quarterbacks, Foles believes he can still be the starter because Chip Kelly has promised to build the offense around the strengths of the quarterback.

“I’m just going to keep working,” Foles said. “It’s a business. I know from the draft process I went through last year that teams bring you in and analyze who they think are the best players in the draft. That’s the smart thing to do. That’s out of my control. My only concern is getting better every day. I’m excited to be here and I’m going to keep working.”

He had conversations with Kelly and the subject of him being traded never came up, so he looks forward to the competition for the starting job.

Foles believed Kelly when he said he was going to build the Eagles offense around the strengths of the quarterback.  The young second-year quarterback feels he can run Kelly’s offense and help the team put points on the scoreboard.

“I feel like if you want to be a quarterback in this league or in pee-wee or something, you have to think, ‘I’m the guy.’ If you think you’re going to be a backup, you’re going to be a backup,” Foles said. “That’s how it is … Every single quarterback on this team believes that he can be the starting quarterback, and that’s what you want. That’s what you want on a team, you want competition, and the same goes with receivers, same goes at every position. I guarantee you there’s not a guy here that doesn’t think he’s the guy and you have to have that mentality when you go to work.

“I know that I believe I can be a starter in this league and be a starter on this team, but like I said before, every single quarterback on this team believes that. That’s how you have to approach every day.”

Foles had good things to say about one of his competitors for that starting quarterback job, veteran Michael Vick.

“I think Michael is a great quarterback,” Foles said. “On a team, you want the best quarterbacks possible competing against each other. And Mike’s one of the best in the league.

“We want competition. We want the best quarterbacks. I’ll keep saying it. We’re all on the same team. We’re all going to compete against each other. The guy that can score the most points and be a leader is going to be the guy [that starts]. Somebody’s going to be that guy.”

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paulman
paulman
April 3, 2013 3:10 pm

Reports flying Round NY that Foles will be traded to the Jets with Trent Cole, Nate Allen For CB Revis and Draft Picks as the Eagles have sights
On Drafting Geno Smith with the #4 Overall Pick and have him play behind Vick in 2013 and be rdy to lead in 2014..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 3, 2013 3:12 pm

New haircut. That’s a good start.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
April 3, 2013 3:23 pm

hahahaha ooooooo hahahahaha….ain’t nothing wrong with confidence. If your a QB and don’t have it, you better look for another occupation. If Kelly is looking for the running throwing QB…Foles can’t seriously expect to beat Vick or Dixon at their own game…

pheags88
pheags88
April 3, 2013 3:41 pm

Fact is he probably will start sometime this season…when Vick gets hurt again for the millionth time in his career.

If the pick does in fact end up being Geno at 4 then they better start Geno day 1. If Geno is the pick at 4, he should be good enough to be a day 1 starter in the league and play well on top of that. Just saying if they do make him the pick at 4, they better play him and tell Vick to take a hike to the Philadelphia Soul.

Don’t wast anymore fucking time. Its not like Vick is a good NFL Qb today to be able to teach a rookie QB anything anyways. He is new to the system himself anyways.

pdiddy
pdiddy
April 3, 2013 5:37 pm

Yeah Nick stand up for yourself that’s what real leaders do.

pdiddy
pdiddy
April 3, 2013 5:39 pm

Chip is going big at every other position, but he’s gonna have a puny, no defense reading ass broken down ass Vick. I think not hell even if you draft Geno let him and Foles duke it out. And may the best young buck win.

pdiddy
pdiddy
April 3, 2013 5:40 pm

GODDAMIT I WANT 6’5″ THROWING TO 6’7″, NO MORE SMURFS(EXCEPT DESEAN).

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 3, 2013 6:01 pm

The title of the article is

“Nick Foles Believes he will start”

Which he never once says during the interview.

During the interview he does say:

“I believe that whoever the QB is we’ll build an offense around that”
“I’m just here to compete”
“I love being a philadelphia eagle…and I’m just here to compete…”
“we’re all here to compete…we all have the same goals…”
“that’s the mindset…every single QB on this team believes he is the starting QB….and that’s what you want…you want competition…..”

which to me, seems a little different than

“As of right now, my mindset is that I’m the starter,” from a certain former superstar…..

paulman
paulman
April 3, 2013 7:20 pm

Where’s Adam DiMichelle when you need him, Good Grief!!!0

DCar
DCar
April 4, 2013 2:14 am

Selective journalism. Does it surprise you? Thus the 75 articles on Geno Smith, & nobody else, that we will possibly draft at #4! Doesn’t surprise me!

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
April 4, 2013 7:06 am

Can’t talk shit if you ain’t done shit….

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 4, 2013 7:59 am
Reply to  Gotta Luv It

They why does MV7 keep talking shit?

Biglion821
Biglion821
April 4, 2013 8:48 am

Because he has played at a high level before, I don’t think Vick has been talking too much lately anyway.

mr1charlton
mr1charlton
April 4, 2013 3:52 pm

cause he’s done shit over his career

Butch007
Butch007
April 3, 2013 11:57 pm

If the FO doesn’t ship him out on draft day he probably stands a good chance of winning the starting job based on how quickly he picked up the West Coast offense and was able to execute most of it in-game immediately. If he learns Kelly’s offense as quickly along with already having played with most of the personnel and knowing players speed, instincts and weaknesses he will have a decisive advantage over other QBs that will be in camp. I seriously get the feeling Vick is essentially a safety net for if they can’t get either Smith or Manuel, so it’s really just Foles versus everybody else if they get the QB in the draft they’re shooting for.

daggolden
daggolden
April 4, 2013 6:05 am
Reply to  Butch007

Foles had 6 tds and 5 ints. Fumbled 8 times and was sacked 20 times and got injured after his 5th NFL start with a 1-5 record.. If that constitutes “picking up the offense” hey we both have different views. lol. One more thing before the “bad offensive line” and no weapons thing comes up. If memory serves me correctly didn’t Bryce Brown set franchise records for rushing behind that oline for Foles.?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 4, 2013 7:58 am
Reply to  daggolden

Hater.

Not willing to concede the kid one start to get acclimated to the NFL?

3 of those ints and 4 of the fumbles came in the 1st half of relief and his first start.

2 ints and 4 fumbles over his next 5 starts. 1 per game. Exactly where his other rookie colleagues were….and half that of his predecessor.

Everz11
Everz11
April 4, 2013 12:22 am

Looking at the moves that Kelly has made so far, I’m not convinced that he is dead set on running the Oregon read option. It seems he’s bringing in versatile offensive players that create mismatches to a Def, i.e.; Casey and the 6’7 receiver types and playing an up tempo style, with the QB making calls at the LOS, similar to NE. It’ll be interesting to see who he drafts on the offensive side of the ball, perhaps someone like Swope in the later rounds, who plays WR, but was recruited as a RB or a TE that can stretch the field vertically. If they stay at 4, I think the pick is D. Jordan.

DMAN
DMAN
April 4, 2013 2:53 am

Couldn’t have said it any better pheags88. You are so right about the Eagles starting Smith if they select him at the 4 spot. Vote NO on Smith at #4.

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
April 4, 2013 7:21 am

I believe I can fly
I believe I can touch the sky
I think about it every night and day
Spread my wings and fly away
I believe I can soar
I see me running through that open door
I believe I can fly
I believe I can fly
I believe I can fly

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
April 4, 2013 8:18 am

trade em to the bills to back up Kolb.

Foles had an opportunity to show that he can be the man when Reid held Vick on the sideline, and he failed.

Next up.

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 4, 2013 8:35 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

I’m not a Foles cheerleader but any reasonable person would not judge a rook qb on his wins and losses while taking over the titanic after it had hit the iceberg…but then again consider the source

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 4, 2013 9:08 am

Joe Flacco had 1 td and 7 ints over his first 5 starts. Had an opportunity to show that he could be the man and failed.

Biglion821
Biglion821
April 4, 2013 9:26 am

Okay let’s give Foles a 120 million dollar contract and be done with it then.

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 4, 2013 10:05 am
Reply to  Biglion821

The point is he has the potential, and time to grow Biggie…I haven’t said anything because some of these guys are making the point that I have stated all offseason…Foles, isn’t going to be traded, and will eventually start, because Vick WILL start, to begin the season, but at some point of time Foles will be the starter for good. He is the QB of the future for the Eagles.

Biglion821
Biglion821
April 4, 2013 10:29 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Cliff you have to know I was being sarcastic, I think Foles will get another opportunity I just don’t know if it will be in Philly.

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 5, 2013 12:48 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

No problem Biggie, Your still mt boy….:)

mr1charlton
mr1charlton
April 4, 2013 3:53 pm

Flacco was a top 5 pick, DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
April 4, 2013 10:12 am

If Foles is allowed to work in Kelly’s system, and if he is given a season to show what he can do, there is a better than 50-50 chance that he will fail.

If we draft Geno Smith or E.J. Manuel, there is a better than 50-50 chance that they will fail.

Mike Vick is the only player in the history of all sports to carry the label “has potential” into his 30s. Based on his past performances, I think the odds are 80% that he will fail.

For that reason I would rather see anyone over Vick.

Biglion821
Biglion821
April 4, 2013 10:31 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

Good points Irish, I will keep saying its 70/30 that Kelly’s eventual QB isn’t on the roster.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 4, 2013 11:05 am
Reply to  Biglion821

“Mike Vick is the only player in the history of all sports to carry the label “has potential” into his 30s”

Fantastic line.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
April 4, 2013 11:38 am

There weren’t any good points… BigL, your being too nice…
The only 30 year old player to still have potential is bullshit…Romo, Palmer…have potential if they don’t do certain things…No matter your age potential still exists…Potential is not age restricted…

Vick’s chances of being successful in a Kelly type of system are far more greater than that of Foles or Geno Smith at this point and time…Geno Smith already has stated he doesn’t believe he would fit well in a Kelly system…If I’m a GM that alone does not show me the type of confidence I want from my QB, Geno Smith won’t be here and Foles is not the Eagles QB of future!

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
April 4, 2013 11:39 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

Again, put the player in the right situation and they will be successful! Especially players with talent and ability.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 4, 2013 12:23 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

Really? You think Romo has “potential?” To what? Play better? Win the SB? ‘Cause I don’t.

I know exactly how the Romo story is going to end every year. Same way it always has. We know EXACTLY what Romo is. We know exactly how he is going to play.

And that’s why that contract he got was a complete joke….though we should be very happy about it as Eagles’ fans.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
April 4, 2013 2:29 pm

You and Irish said Vick is the only 30 year old player who still is regarded as having potential…I’m simply pointing out, how false that is……You just dont get it…By definition every single NFL player has some sort of potential. If they don’t they do not belong in the league…hell, they don’t even belong on a practice squad…

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
April 4, 2013 4:45 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

Vick chances of being crippled playing in Kelly’s offense are far greater than that of Foles or Geno Smith at this point and time.

The only situation you could put Vick in where he would be successful is if you put him in a game of two-hand-touch. And that only if it’s not rough-touch.

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 4, 2013 11:25 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

He is the future qb. I will tell you definitely isn’t……….. Dennis Dixon

mr1charlton
mr1charlton
April 4, 2013 3:54 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

lets bring back ron jaworski

paulman
paulman
April 4, 2013 10:30 am

With the 1st Overall Pick of the 2014 NFL Draft,
The Philadelphia Eagles Select QB Johnny Manziel of Texas A&M
(You can Book it Danno)

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 4, 2013 3:46 pm
Reply to  paulman

He’ll be a flop in the pros too…….You can Book that…..

jakedog
jakedog
April 4, 2013 7:07 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Agree gmcliff, another over hyped bum

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
April 5, 2013 12:14 pm
Reply to  jakedog

I would love to here how you can judge Manziel’s pro career after he has played 1 season in college.

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 5, 2013 7:14 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

Just my eye for talent, no detailed analyzation. I think he is a College Prima Donna, who will not be anything close to what he is in college , in the pros.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
April 4, 2013 11:09 am

This is nothing more than Jets bait.

Foles have “0” chance of starting for the Eagles….

Why would the Eagles pay Vick the nice bonus and restructure his deal if Nick Foles was considered a legitimate choice to lead the team?

Vick would have been cut if they they thought that high of Foles.

Foles have been sold a pipe dream to run his mouth in hopes of Marty Morning breath asking the Jets to trade for him.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
April 4, 2013 11:11 am

Vinnie? Do Carson Palmer have potential? How about garbage ass Kevin Kolb?

The Kolb you thought was better than Vick….Remember?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 4, 2013 11:50 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Kolb is better than Vick…..
Since Trade

Kolb 6w 8l 60% 3122yrds (223/g) 17 tds (1.3/g)11 ints 10 fumbles (1.4/g)

Vick 10w 13l 58% 5424 (235/g) 28tds (1.2/g) 22 ints 21 fumbles (1.9/g)

not by much…but still higher tds, lower turnovers, higher comp % and exact same win %

LOL…its not my much, but that really must bust your balls to see how FUCKING TERRIBLE VICK IS.

Worse that Kolb.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
April 4, 2013 11:55 am

Kolb is better than Vick is laughable…Fitzgeral bailed Kolb out how many times due to under thrown balls…Coaching staffs also call the games differently. Anyone if asked Kolb or Vick even with those stats you present, I guarantee 90% of knowledgeable football fans pick Vick…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 4, 2013 12:10 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

The point is if asked “Kolb or Vick” they’d have to think about it. And that’s enough.

I still mainain the Eagles would have been better off trading Vick for 2 firsts and keeping Kolb then Trading Kolb for useless lazy DRC and a 2nd and keeping Vick.

Eagles record would have been just about the same, but would have had 2 top 10 Buffalo Bills picks to go along with their own.

What’s done is done….both Qbs stink….weagles would have got a better haul for Vick than Kolb.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
April 4, 2013 12:02 pm

Also did you watch the Cardinal games? 95% of the passes thrown 5yards or less…I could have better numbers than Kolb with that type of play calling!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 4, 2013 11:52 am

BTW – Carson Palmer has no potential…he’s never done anything and he’s on the wrong side of 30. Like your hero.

Useless.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
April 4, 2013 11:58 am

OK Vinnie…potential is nothing but if’s…if you do this or do that you have potential…look up the definition of potential and comprehend it, don’t just read it…
my hero? how about your hero was shipped the f out of here for my “hero”…then your hero was let go again…two times in two years? yea but he’s better than my “hero”

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 4, 2013 12:18 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

Age plays a role. Experience.

Guys 100 games in who are still making the same stupid mistakes as they did in games 1-16 (like Vick and Palmer) have (or should have) lost the “potential” moniker at some point don’t you think?

They’re not going to magically regain it. There isn’t going to be some “if only in this system….Kelly will fix him” magic. How many times can someone fall for that Line? I mean we’ve heard it now every single year for a decade with Vick. Give it up.

Foles has “potential” because he’s only appeared in 7 games and appointed himself very well. I could perhaps give you that Dixon has “potential” because he also has not had many NFL appearances…though he has been in the league 4 years..and his 4 appearances are not altogether very impressive…..of course any drafted QBs coming in have “potential” also…or at least we hope they do.

The question is….

If there is a QB on the roster with “potential” and there is at least 1 (Foles), if not 2 (Foles and Dixon) then why the hell would you draft another QB at this point?

That’s stupid.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
April 4, 2013 2:36 pm

Dixon also has the same amount of wins as Foles…you’re big on stats and wins/losses…A QB that has played less has the same amount of wins…and no don’t bring up, well he played on the Steelers…because to hear you tell it, everything revolves around the QB.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 4, 2013 3:17 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

win/loss is one of the stats that QBs get awarded.

Dixon has 2 full starts over 4 years. 1 win 1 loss.

12 of 25 for 145 one and 1 in his first (not terrible for a first start) in a loss

18 of 26 for 236 otds adn 1 int in his win….pretty pedestrian, but ok.

My only question about Dixon is why have 2 different coaching staffs felt he was not even worthy of being a 2nd or even 3rd QB. Its not like he had to beat out anyone significant for those backup roles.

you don’t see any red flags there obviously, but I do.

I don’t see the same red flags with Foles whom an NFL coaching staff put as a backup in his first year, and who performed very well coming in to a pretty terrible situation at the end of last year.

So yes, I am inclined to see more potential with Foles than with Dixon at this point.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 4, 2013 3:21 pm

But to my pooint, if Foles AND Dixon have potential, but require a slew of NFL games to demoonstrate it…..then drafting a QB this year is a waste of resources.

QB depth chart right now in my world
Foles
Dixon
Edwards
The new guy
The beaten down small guy

There is only one question….do you believe Foles or Dixon have potential to be the starters?

Yes – then move on

No – Draft Geno Smith.

paulman
paulman
April 5, 2013 9:33 am

What Carson has done has quit on 2 Teams that Paid him a lot of $$$
To lead their Teams (Bengals/Raiders)
I never saw much in Palmer’s Game to warrant any big $$$ to him in the first place and it puzzles me that a Team like the Cardinals who have made a lot of changes with Roster and Coaching Staff and finally have a little excitement going on would bring this “Cancer” onto their Teamz
Playing in probably toughest Division now with the 49ers, Seahawks and an improved Rams Team, why not Draft a Geno Smith and rebuild with a young QB with promise is my thinking instead of going with a retread loser like Carson Palmer, but then again, that’s why the Cardinals are the Cardinals..

Stevo
Stevo
April 4, 2013 12:15 pm

Oh Gcobb…… so predictable…

1) Vinnie praising a backup… any backup.
2) Songs…. praising Vick
3) Gcobb racking in the money with the QB posts
4) Everyone rushing to ESPN.cm to pull Kevin Kolb stats

new day.. same conversation…

We have no idea what will happen. Foles has potential but we cant bank on him to be anything. He’s a young kid who turned the ball over and lost games. Its not his fault because its a team game… and he’s young. He will get a shot in camp… id love to see how he handles the new stuff.

Vick is Vick. He can blow you away with the highlights and make you want to punch the wall with what he does. He will get a shot in camp…. i for 1 am curious if he can give us something once the option of holding the ball for 5 secs is gone.

Kolb is Kolb….. a backup QB for a different team. Its time to let it go vinnie. You were wrong about him. Lots of you were.

We have no idea what will happen. You guys can throw mud at eachother if you want. Im gunna sit back and root for my team. Im more excited than ever now that Andy is gone and we can get back to Philly ball.

DCar
DCar
April 4, 2013 12:37 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Stevo, & it ain’t going to end, until Vick is gone & the QB situation is settled. You don’t think it’s a coincidence, that he has written a 100 articles on Geno, & endless articles on Vick & Foles, do you? GCobb knows where his bread is buttered, & what is the gasoline on the fire, & who the lightning rods are! We do not have a future, franchise QB! Vick sucks dinosaur balls, Foles is raw & unproven, & Dixon is a bench warmer. PERIOD! All the Vick ball slurpers & Foles hopefuls, need to face the harsh reality!

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
April 4, 2013 2:22 pm
Reply to  DCar

Those that defend Vick are ball slurpers and those that like Foles are hopefuls….Why can’t both be hopefuls? why the negativity, bitch? Dixon a bench warmer, is more unproven than Foles is in pro’s…but way more proven in college..if Dixon has never really been given a shot how do you know what he is capable of doing?…you sound from the same cloth as Nawrocki…

jakedog
jakedog
April 4, 2013 2:42 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

Before you label people do your homework, any time someone has the guts to give an unfavorable opinion about a black qb they are automatically called a racist, nawrocki gave a very favorable review of ej Manuel and trashed other white prospects,

Keep it real as you like to think you are

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
April 4, 2013 3:16 pm
Reply to  jakedog

doesn’t surprise me you would defend Nawrocki…you have been quoted on here as saying, Lurie “only likes black athletes” you have a lot of damn nerve…shut your fake ass up!

DCar
DCar
April 5, 2013 1:36 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

Real, I got your bitch for you, right here BITCH! Try reading my comments before you make stupid comments. Go slurp your boys sack some more. Nawrocki, are you serious bro?!? WTF, is wrong with you? I criticized all of our QB’s, you have selective eyes, like the rest of the Racists on here! I said the Foles hopefuls, meaning they are hopeful, not that I have hope for him. You forget, numbnuts, I’m Black, Cherokee, & Italian, so Racism don’t flow in through my blood bruh, so keep you dumb @$$, fact-less, ignorant comments to yourself! If you can’t take factual criticism, & brutal honesty, I don’t know what to tell you. I tell it like it is, & don’t look at color. I rip everything & everyone accordingly! Look in the mirror & say a prayer!

DCar
DCar
April 5, 2013 1:39 am
Reply to  DCar

BTW, I rip jake & Vinnie, too, along with everyone else that makes, dumb@$$, racist, ignorant, or ill-informed comments! You can’t have it both ways!

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
April 5, 2013 11:31 am
Reply to  DCar

I read your comments and they can’t be comprehended due to my inability to understand gibberish and ability to communicate with someone with the IQ of an eggplant. You say you are passionate, you say you give factual criticism. You call it brutal honesty, I see it as just an angry person throwing a temper tantrum. Your makeup means nothing, I don’t care if you were “clear” you disrespect Vick and those that show him some support, but refer to those that back Foles as hopefuls. Both QB’s are on your team, you should be hopeful that both players get the job done under the new coach.

DCar
DCar
April 6, 2013 2:27 am
Reply to  DCar

Real, with all due respect, you can’t comprehend anything, anyone says on here, because you have the reading comprehension, of a deaf mute, you are ignorant, racist, close minded, & have a selective, flawed brain, that see’s, what he wants to see. You are as “Real” as Cubic Zirconia jewellery. You are a phoney, that doesn’t hide his bigotry, too well, IMHO! Talk racism, to hide racism. I don’t like Vick, Foles, or any of the other trash, we have at QB! NO, I DON’T HAVE TOO, be hopeful any of them can get the job done, because all of them have proven otherwise! Foles might, have a shot, might (I don’t think so), but Vick has 10+ failed years of evidence, Dixon couldn’t beat out Troy Smith, Tyrod Taylor, Byron Leftwich & Charlie freaking Batch. Enough said! We don’t have a franchise QB, period! As for me throwing angry temper tantrums & having an IQ of an eggplant? I only get angry with retarded, racist, ignorant, hypocrites like you, who can’t stand when someone criticizes your false idol, & Messiah. I also, have forgotten more information, smarts, literacy, learnedness, refinement, cultivation, & tutelage, than you can ever hope to attain, SON! You cats on here, need to get a f^#@ing clue!

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 4, 2013 11:22 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

But he has proven himself, being in the league longer than Foles, under NFL Coaching, and the professionals have concluded, he doesn’t measure up to a NFL QB, so they felt his place was on the practice squad.

Chip Kelly, is in his first year as an NFL Head Coach, its not even proven conclusive he is an NFL Head Coach. He is familiar with Dixon, but like you, and I discussed before, if he is cut, or sits behind Foles. Get ready to join the club so many are members of, because they ran their mouth but the reality was they didn’t know what they were talking about……Foles is the future QB of the Eagles. Like it or not.

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
April 4, 2013 1:34 pm

“Tell them how fast you are, Nick…Yeah, tell them how fast you are”

Classic !!!! CTFU

jakedog
jakedog
April 4, 2013 1:51 pm

Eagles should stay far away from geno smith, both Vick and foles are better, way better qbs than smith will ever be.

Vick had his shot, he’s done, it’s time to see what nick foles can do with a healthy online, new system, new coach.

Biglion821
Biglion821
April 4, 2013 3:15 pm

Round and round we go. Vick is a selfish turnover machine, Foles is a unproven slow footed bum but he’s a savant at reading defenses. Vick is still living off potential at 33 years old. Foles is the next Tom Brady. Mini camp and the draft can’t get here fast enough for me.

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 4, 2013 3:40 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Lion gcobb will be putting 5-10 QB articles a day! Cha Ching!!!!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 4, 2013 3:50 pm

Here’s another way to look at it.

Because of Luck and RGIII sqewing the draft last year….Eagles got great Value in Foles in round 3. Remove those 2 once in a lifetime players….and assume the same order of QB needy teams and ranking of QBs.

Round 1
Tannehil to Colts
Weedon to Skins
Osweiler to Dolfins
Cousins to Browns

Round 2
Foles to Broncos
Wilson to Redskins or Eagles if they pass……

Now you can perhaps argue that they might not have taken QBs in those spots, but other than the Broncos, those were some extremely QB needy teams…..

So Eagles got great Value in Foles who would have been a second rounder (at least) had it not been for the big 2.

Now this year…..there are no “decade” players at the position……So you’ve got nothing but teams reaching to fill need.

If Eagles feel Foles or Dixon aren’t good enough (an no I will not consider the other in the equation) then they have to take Smith at 4…or perhaps Manuel at the top of round 2.

Smith would, at best, have beeen late first round last year behing the Big 2 and Tannhill…and Manuel…..3rd or 4th round at best.

So drafting either of them this year represents lost value.

Better to wait till next year for 2 reasons:

1 – find out if you already have a QB on the roster in Foles (probably) or Dixon (less likely)
2 – Draft class is considered to be stronger next year, so draft value is higher than this year.

Stevo
Stevo
April 4, 2013 5:26 pm

Drafting a QB in any round is hard. Its the hardest position to get right. How many guys get let go and vanish?

Im with you…. I want no part in a QB UNLESS Kelly is 100% sure its the guy. And i dont think he thinks Geno is.

And before I hear from 1 or 2 of you about how Lurie will demand it… give me a break.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
April 4, 2013 5:23 pm

My point about Vick and “potential” is this – The guy is 33 years old and people still talk like he can reinvent himself into something he has never been.

I don’t know how many of you guys were paying attention back in 2003 when the Falcons fired Dan Reeves. The talk back then was that Jim Mora and his West Coast Offense would fix Vick.

Then Vick cane to Philly and Andy Reid and Marty were going to fix Vick’s shortcomings and he would be a pass first QB.

Now Kelly comes to town and all at once this 33 year-old has a new lease on life. The Great Vick will now transform into a read/option QB. In an interview Vick was making comments about rushing for 1000 yards.

People accept that Tony Romo is what he is – they accept that Carson Palmer is what he is… Nobody talks about Romo or Palmer improving their foot work or delivery… it’s too late for that. It’s only Vick that is a 33 year-old work in progress…

Vick is what he is – an injury prone turnover machine. There’s no system or coach that fixes that.

daggolden
daggolden
April 4, 2013 6:14 pm

Obviously Chip Kelly looked at all the tape on Foles and said oh hell no I cant go into a season with that. Get Mike Vick on the phone. Hey Mike I will give your injury prone, turnover machine ass 10 million dollars to come back before I go into a season with a 3rd round reach. Ive looked at his game film..lol. This is coming from a coach who has been repeatedly called a offensive genius. So its safe to say he knows what he is talking about.. I think he knows just a little about offenses.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
April 5, 2013 9:16 am
Reply to  daggolden

Jim Mora and Andy Reid knew a little bit about football too… I’m sure they looked a film of Vick too… I’m sure they ran to the phone with offers for Vick too… And, I bet neither one would give him 5 cents to play on their team today.

I hope Chip Kelly is smart enough not to commit to Vick. Unlike Foles, who is unproven, Vick is a 10 year proven bum.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 4, 2013 6:36 pm

Ummm…Vick got a pay cut, not a raise.

He went from 15 million to 3.5.

The remaining 6.5 mil is only if he beats out everyone for the starting QB role, plays 90% of the snaps and wins the SB……………………………………………

Sorry I had to stop there because I was laughing too much.

Confidence abounds.

daggolden
daggolden
April 4, 2013 7:27 pm

Yeah like I was laughing at your ass when you said he would be released. lmao.

Biglion821
Biglion821
April 4, 2013 7:49 pm
Reply to  daggolden

LOL

jakedog
jakedog
April 4, 2013 8:12 pm

You guys lack “sand” to debate with vinnie, this debate over Vick vs foles is not even close, give it up, find something else to post about, Vick is a cool dude, far more Philly than that puss mcchoke ever was, but he’s just not that good, overhyped, brought here for marketing purposes, a Lurie experiment, that’s what this owner does, he doesn’t necessarily bring in the best, just the best o suit his agenda to an ignorant fan base

DCar
DCar
April 5, 2013 1:41 am
Reply to  jakedog

BINGO!

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
April 5, 2013 8:39 am

Both of the QBs are not good and probably won’t be the starter next year. Bringing in Dixon and working out every QB under the sun should really solidify how Kelly feels about Vick and Foles. I don’t think that Geno is the answer, but if Kelly does, then draft him. I want no part of Manuel though.

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 5, 2013 9:34 am

I have never heard Chip Kelly say he doesn’t like either QB Vick, or Foles, he brought in some reserves,….so what? But I have heard most speculate into what he’s thinking – Your saying it, not Kelly – .

But just because you don’t like Vick or Foles, isn’t an excuse to draft a bad QB, because the draft dictates this is the best available. Smith, and Manuel – especially Manual, are bad options to the Eagles needs. Period.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
April 5, 2013 12:10 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

So basically what you are saying GM is that what I say doesn’t matter because Kelly didn’t say it, but because you think that Smith and Manuel are bad, then that is law? – Your saying it, not Kelly –

I just want to be clear.

Why would Kelly come out and say he doesn’t like the QBs? :Do you really think that would happen? Instead from what he has done, bringing in QB after QB to look at as well as bringing in Dixon, it seems that he may be looking for another option than Vick/Foles. Would you disagree with that? Is that how a coach who likes his options at QB acts? Working out 2 guys that may go in the the first 2 rounds?

For more clarification, I think that Vick is too injury prone to play in a RO offense and Foles can’t run that kind of offense, because he runs dragging a tire around. I don’t like Smith or Manuel either.

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 5, 2013 1:02 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

No Bugs, that wasn’t exactly what I meant. I only meant that, getting rid of Vick, or Foles isn’t a given, or drafting Smith oe Manual; Just like cutting Vick wasn’t a given, just because thats what we read into it.

Dixon is as good an option as Trent Edwards, don’t you think.There both practice squad players. I agree with the creating competition angle, but it’s not a given that thats exactly what he is thinking. I can only post what I would do. I would keep Foles, and roll with Vick as my starter until it’s time to pull him, and put Foles in permanently.

We are on the same page Bugs with Manual, and Smith. I just think there are too many needs to compromise by drafting a QB. I actually think Matt Scott, would be a nice developmental player, but to draft Smith or Manual would be reaching in the first two rounds, which isn’t what we want. Andy Reid did that, and we saw the results.

paulman
paulman
April 5, 2013 11:09 am

I believe that no QB is Drafted this Draft
Eagles will go with Vick, Foles, Dixon and Rinnie of Practice Squad
I believe Kelly gives every opportunity to Foles to be the #1 QB
And if he fails to play well and pick up his Offense, then it will be Vick as the #1
For 2013 and then they will address the QB Postion come 2014 Draft where there will be better QB Prospects, until then they will go with what they currently gave and may the best QB win out over Camp