6’5” and 231 pounds; Mike Evans will surely be a nightmare for opposing defensive coordinators at the NFL level. Ranked as the second best wide-receiver coming out of the 2014 class; there shouldn’t be mention with the Eagles as a possible destination, but his name has already surfaced. What would it cost the Eagles to move up to a position to take Evans? We have to go a few years back to 2011 when the Falcons selected Julio Jones.
The Falcons were selecting 27th overall and moved up to pick #6. They gave up their 1st, 2nd and 4th round selections for that draft in addition to their 1st and 4th the following year. I feel the Eagles would have to give up a similar package to get into a position to draft Evans. Kelly really likes Evans, and it’s quite obvious why he would. The price to pay for “one” player with needs at “multiple positions” is one I’m not willing to sign off on.
Big receivers can absolutely take over a football game, and I would love to get my hands on one of them. Some have similar size but with less of the play making ability. Some are quicker but their catching ability is not at the same level. Others are big, fast but are “raw” and considered 1-2 year projects before they are ready to make a solid contribution for their team. Others are big, and their future in the NFL is a mere question mark.
With the expectation that the Eagles will increase the role of their tight-ends this season, the “big” receiver will already be in effect.
They could certainly add some size to their receiving depth chart, and have options throughout the draft to follow-up on that plan.
Round 1
Kelvin Benjamin 6-5 240 (FSU)- You can’t teach size, and he is the biggest all around receiver in the draft. Benjamin has enough speed to create space and make plays after the catch, but his biggest strength will be winning matchups, especially in the red-zone.
Round 2-3
Allen Robinson (PSU) 6’3” 220 pounds- Physical style player with strong hands and a determination to catch anything that comes his way.
Donte Moncrief (Ole Miss) 6’2” 221 pounds-Good route runner, tough kid who is also an excellent blocker. Has good speed, great knowledge for the game and can find the open space in a crowd.
Martavis Bryant (Clemson) 6’-4” 211 pounds- Raw, athletic and has a tall frame that could pack on a few pounds. He is quick and can be that home run hitter, has had a history of drops and inconsistent effort on the field.
Cody Latimer (Indiana) 6’3” 215 pounds- Like Brandin Cooks, Latimer is quickly moving up with his projected draft status. He is strong, he is quick, but some would argue his success came from matching up against weak competition.
Jordan Matthews (Vanderbilt) 6’3” 212 pounds- Good in most areas, not “great” in any. He is a good route runner with good hands.
Davante Adam Fresno State 6’1” 212 pounds-Can move the chains on third down and shows the willingness to attack the middle of the field.
Rounds 5
Jeff Janis (Saginaw Valley) 6’3” 219 pounds- Has terrific size and speed. He had a solid college career playing against average competition. Will work hard for playing time and can contribute on special teams.
Round 7/Undrafted
Cody Hoffman (Brigham Young) 6’-4” 223 pounds
Shaquelle Evans (UCLA) 6’1” 213 pounds
Jeff you forgot the big kid from Rutgers, Brandon Coleman– especially seeing how his teammate Tim Wright transformed for a a slow wide receiver in college to a fast tight end in his rookie year in Tampa.
Coleman is huge, I’m familiar with him, but like a 7 footer in the NBA, the kid is big, nothing flashy, I’d rather take a guy a few inches shorter with some upside.
As for Wright (I did have him on my FF team last year in my “rookie flex” position, it was either him or Vincent Jackson in the passing scheme. Jackson would get the double coverage and Wright would have the middle of the field. I wouldn’t expect too much of Wright this season, 35 catches max.
HE’S BIG BUT HE STINKS…….But, what else would you expect from E0S, as far as player evaluation……
Ironically, he was also the WR, that Igglessb27 mocked as well – go figure??
E0SClueless…..
gmcliff everyone gets something different from following the draft process and the NFL. I like to follow the local players whether from High School or college. Sometimes I sour on them because of behavior like Kenny Britt but that is rare.
Dude….for the last f’ing time. KEEP MY NAME OUT OF YOUR POSTS. You are clearly a mentally undevelopred boy that has no clue. I am NOT e0s or anyone else. I am Igglessb27. I am a man who doesn’t have to live a fantasy life to feel like I have accomplished something LIKE YOU DO!!!!
You are not and have NEVER been a talent evaluator! I physically talked to a national evaluator that lives here locally and he says that he does it year around and cannot evaluate everyone draft available. Yet you claim that you do. He asked me to get him your name and number so he can find out how you get all the coaches tape. You are a fraud that Googles players and post what you read about them.
Time to come back to reality LOSER!!!!!
Allen Robinson slaughtered his Penn State pro day –
he dropped 12 pounds in weight, ran a 4.47 forty, and jumped a 42 inch vertical. He his back in the first round. Eagles have to do some serious homework on this guy. He has great ball skills in the air and Nick likes to throw jump balls on post patterns.
shut up E0S…don’t act like you have a clue now……all of us know about him and other prospects…..Where was all this so called knowledge when I asked you about the prospects before the combine???????????
Now all of the sudden you have a clue…..I told you – that what you do, but you know nothing….
STHU, – We don’t care what you think of the prospects, because you don’t know what you’re talking about………
take a deep breath Cliff, relax — you will get your chance on May 11, 2014 at the starting lineup but until then get back to the JV practice and fill up some water bottles.
You will be doing that by yourself on Mayy 11th – don’t act all brave, like you’ve accomplished something you haven’t……
What players have you mocked to prove you slapped me around the last 2 years????
I just wanted to see what you had in terms of talent evaluation……I haven’t heard anything from you personally yet (although you CLAIM you slapped me around)…What Howie says – I give less than a darn –
But he won’t be fighting your battles with me this year – Your going to stand on you own two feet, or STHU Forever – sense you chickened out of that – I have nothing else to say – but enjoy yourself…
Hey LOSER NO ONE cares what you have to say! Not even your family apparently. You spend all of your time on here and “evaluating” talent so when do you have time to take care of your family?
Stop posting on here! You are taking up space that real football fans could be using.
Robinson will certainly be drafted in the top 40. A team may see him as a more “NFL” ready player then Benjamin in that big WR mold, and I wouldn’t be suprised if Robinson actually is drafted prior to Benjamin.
He is better than Benjamin Jeff……but Robinson should play behind a veteran for a year or 2…
Ok, maybe it is a dream, but I would love to see the Birds get Pryor in the 1st round and Robinson in the 2nd…….but from what I am reading I doubt that either will be there for them to take at their current draft positions.
Cliff, what is your opinion of Dee Ford? Is he a fit on our defense? If so I think he might be available in the 1st, again take Robinson in the 2nd and get the safety from LSU, Craig Loston (I think I spelled his name wrong from memory) in the 3rd or maybe 4th. What do you think? This team badly needs help on defense and needs help that will see the field this year. I doubt that the offense will be able to play at the super high level it did last year (hopefully I am wrong) and the defense will need to hold up their end if this team is going to win double digits again.
greenfan – I was returning from wegmans food shopping listening to herm edwards on espn radio and he said Pryor did not have a good pro day and Ha Ha has easily distanced himself as the best safety in the draft.
wegmans is a great store..expensive, but great food store.
I didn’t hear Herm, but respect his opinion. I heard him with Howard and Ike the other day and really learned something when he was stressing the need for turnovers instead of knockdowns from your defensive backfield. I don’t know about his Pro-Day, but from the film I have seen of him, I see a big hitter in the mold of BDawk. I could see he and Wolfe being a force for a number of years, but maybe I am missing something.
This pro day stuff is such a small piece of the puzzle, it’s about the game tapeand how theplayer performs on the field during game day. If any GM or coach looks at game tape and sees a good to great talent, then makes a decision of the value of a player based on an hour of orchestrated workouts in shorts, thenthat coach or GM is crazy. Themost important part of a pro day is to meet and interview the player and or check out medical physical concerns.
I was watching them both on this show hosted by Michael Irvin the other night. Benjamin looks like a small forward and not a NFL WR. The basketball-NFL thing has had a lot of success, but honestly, I hope to not even speak of WR in rounds 1 or 2. I want DEFENSE.
Fuller in round 1 Bucannon in round 2 but that’s a pipe dream Jeff, I’m telling you 2 wideouts a OL guy and a bunch of posters on Gcobb going bat crap crazy just watch.
I think many of us GCobb Regulars/Fans will be disappointed for
Chip Kelly is going to rebuild this Offense first for that’s what he stresses on his Teams.. He will let DC Davis worry about fielding a competitive Defense .. Look for WR/TE/OL and even RB Selected earlier than thought for Kelly is going to redo this Offense with “His Players”
Big, & I’ll be the 1st!
We’ll be disappointed DCar but it’ll be expected, so Gloomy with all his trade down scenarios and E0S with his undying love for Ego and Wonder boy get ready to be disappointed.
Robinson will not be drafted in the top 40! There could be 7 WR’s that go before him. Watkins, Evans, Cooks, Lee, Beckham, Benjamin, Moncrief, & Matthews. Just because Robinson blew up his pro-day, doesn’t mean, all of a sudden his hands for feet, are going to replace themselves.
Robinson is going to be a good player Dcar. Maybe Im showing a little Blue and White Bias but he is by no means another Kenny Jackson.
A Sleeper WR in the 2nd Round could be DaVante Adams from Fresno State who at 6-2 212lbs, plays quick,with good hands and makes Yards after the Catch.. Plays Outside & Inside and could be a real nice Fit for Kelly’s Schemes
I belive the Eagles will pursue a WR that will play the Slot a lot more often (like Avant did) than Drafting an Outside WR to replace D-Jax in the Early Rounds
I look at Davante Adams, Dontae Moncrief and Jarvis Landry as all good fits for the Eagles Offense since they have all played teh Slot Position in College and have had success and have the Toughness & Quickness to play in between the #’s ..
I believe Maclin & Cooper will mostly play and line-up on he Outside
The Eagles Need to get a Slot Receiver in this Draft first and then may get a speed guy late in teh Draft..Emphasis will and should be on Slot WR
Kiper has Adams gone early in RD 2. to Browns.
Ive seen him in the top of the 2nd on more than a couple mocks now. Hes not a sleeper anymore.
Maybe if the Eagles can slide back to Browns #26 or 49ers #30
Where does Kiper have Safety Deone Bucannon going ??
Buchanon in the 2nd at 47 to Dallas.
The Eagles trade back could be if Bridgewater and Carr are there at 22. Then maybe they can get a team that wanted a QB who drafted in the top 10 to give up a 2nd and 3rd to move up.
X, he may be talented, but he still isn’t going in the top 40, like Jeff said. I’d take all of the WR’s I listed before him. 3 things you should never draft, PSU WR’s, USC QB’s, & anybody from over-hyped, overexposed ND!
Usually I would agree with staying away from PSU WR’s
but do temember that during PSU BIll O’Brien’s breif tenure at PSU
their WR’s Corps Talent Level and Skills Improved as O’Brien comes from a pass-first sytem and was light years ahead under Paterno’s System and Coaching Staff as far as developing PSU Players in the Passing Game.. ..
*******trade alert******
Eagles send Matt Barkley to
Oakland for Terrel Pryor
can pryor cover kickoffs and punts ?
****Trade/New Position Alert*****
GCobb Hires Gloomy to be his Campaign Manager and will no longer allowed to post on GCobb.Com..
Gloomy’s First Trip is to Visit the old closed “Eagle Point Refinery Site” off 295 and Propose a new “Retail,Restaurant,Office Park,Hotel and Kids Theme Park Complex” as one of Gman’s Initiative’s to bring Jobs to SOuth Jersey…
Gloomy I would do that yesterday and throw in some kicking tees and a blocking sled and a couple a cases of Gatorade to sweeten up that offer to get that stiff Barkley out of here.
PUFF** PUFF** PASS……
Pryor IS NOT an NFL QB! He makes Tebow look like a HOF! No thanks!!!!
Insanity….Barkley may stink but Pryor stinks more….New rumor dude.
Okay how about this? Take Pryor for that stiff Barkley, slap a #85 on that jersey and move his ass to TE or Hback since Coach Ego loves TE’s. Now that is some serious thinking outside the box right there my friends.
Still a stiff he was hurt last year just running as a bad QB…PASS. Pryor is the Doink the clown of the NFL.
Lol no but he’s better than Barkley
E0S believes that Barkley will be the next Starter, because Howie Picked him….What a great pick huh E0S….?????
GMCliff said – Matt Barkley, is NOT an NFL QB – and he isn’t….
What do you think E0S???
I would compare Matt Barkley with Barry Gardner. If Ray Rhodes would have known he had a player as good as Trotter on the team unexplicitly sitting on the bench he never would have drafted Gardner. Just like Chip wouldn’t have drafted Barkley if he had known how good Foles was sitting on the bench.
Barkley is a stiff, Sanchez is a stiff, Leinart is a stiff, Palmer is a serviceable stiff. LOL see a trend here anyone?
Barkley blows!
LOL
The only 2 wr’s I want out of that list is Cody latimer & Martavis Bryant . I would love mike Evans but they need to trade down not up.
**NFL Reports that 49ers are shopping RB/Returnman LeMichael James who was one of Chip Kelly’s first Recruits at Oregon…
Could possibly be a Deal involving Brandon Graham for LM James per Bay Area Sources..
With Aldon Smith’s issues and likely suspension and other DE Justin Smith getting a little long in the tooth… 49ers looking for pass-rushing DE’s
Could be a good Fit for Both Players and Teams
Moncrief is a guy who I think could be how James Jones was for the Packers. A solid WR 3, able to have a 100 yard game if needed, but he is a solid possesion WR who can grab catches in the middle of the field and be a good red zone threat.
The reason I say Moncrief is I really think Latimer and Bryant are gone by the time the Eagles take a WR. Unless they get more picks in the draft, I see round 3 as the spot we take a WR.
I really like Moncrief as I have stated in previous Posts..
He could work in the slot and outside, he’s tough,physcial and can block which is a requirement for Kelly’s System..
Many of these WR in this Draft are strictly outside, speed guys, but if they can’t adjust and improve their route running, play more physical and learn to play some inside, many of them will have short NFL Careers..
So Paulman the eagles are gonna have 10rb’s
That Tucker from TCU kid was nasty in that preseason game which meant nothing….
Kelly is building up his RB Corp’s in plans of moving both McCoy & Brown
Brown will be gone this year and McCoy after the 2014 Season
You will see a RB Corp of Polk,Sproles with L James splashed in and James eill be used in some of the same formations as D-Jax was, with Reverses/End-arounds, Bubble Routes/Screens & Direct snaps from Center… Good Times ahead
The browns draft
#5- Sammy Watkins
#26- Derek Carr
They then send picks
#35,83,106,145
To the eagles for
Lesean McCoy
Will you put down that “Chart” and start Working on G-Man’s Speech..
That Chart is like a Drug to you… Get some help man before you go off on the Deep end… 🙂
Hey Paulman that wasn’t off a chart the birds wouldn’t send them any picks at all that would be the browns offense for the next 5yrs Carr,McCoy,Gordon & Watkins,and there tight end who’s name I can’t think of right now it will come to me. But if Carr turns out to be any good that offense would be crazy good.
TE Cameron Jordan I believe.. and he does have a promising Future
Cameron Jordan is a flat out stud.
ESPN Reports that D-Jax Owes $516,000 to Agent Drew Rosenhaus for his past Services,etc,etc..
It’s occured to me that is was Agent Drew Rosenhaus all along, who spread Rumors/Innuendo about D-Jax to make the Eagles Release him thereby knowing that D-Jax would sign a New Dealwith a New Team and get some Bonus up front $$$ that he would not get if he remained with the Eagles and now since D-Jax has moved on with a new Deal, He has the $$$ to pay him Rosenhaus back.. Very good move by Rosenhaus who kills 2 Birds with 1 Stone.. He gets his $$$ backl from D-Jax and sticks it to the EAgles for screwing up his Cash-Cow in Terrell Owens a few Years back..
Check out Rosenhaus background and you will see some relationships with that Reporter from the NJ Paper, who was breaking the story.. .
As the World Turns I guess..
Stop it paulman. LOL it would make a great movie plot though.
I thought you ran out of rumors?? I knew better. LOL
I had some strong “Starbucks Coffee” this morning and off I went with the Rumor’s again…
Biggy..
I have come up with a Cast of Actors to Play in this Eagles/D-Jax/Rosenhaus Saga that I’ve been working on…
So Far I have hired the Following
D-Jax played by Jaimee Foxx
GM Roseman played by Neil Patrick Harris (from How I Met Your Mother)
Owner Jeff Lurie played by Kevin Spacey
Agent Rosenhaus played by Vince Vaughn
Coach Kelly – Demanded that he Play Himself… (though I had Zack Galifianakis from “The Hangover” already hired to play the Role)
I need to get some Women in this moviescript to attact a bigger
audience
So far so good and yes we need some women in there, we need to find a role for Jennifer Garner. Also Snoop Dog needs to be one of DJax’s homies.
Well get Snoop, Ice Cube for the Rap Scenes, maybe a little Beyonce for D-Jax’s Love interest..
Jeniffer Garner would be a great to add to the Movie
I’ll make up a Stroy Line that she’s Roseman’s Fiancee, as they are planning a Wedding to help keep the ladies interested, but Garner Falls in Love with the NJ Reporter, who I will now play…
Good Stuff and keep them coming )
Hey ladies in the place I’m callin’ out to ya
There never was a city kid truer and bluer
There’s more to me than you’ll ever know
And I’ve got more hits than Sadaharu Oh
Ton Thumb Tom Cushman or Tom Foolery
Date women on T.V. with the help of Chuck Woolery
Words are flowing out just like the Grand Canyon
And I’m always out looking for a female companion
I threw the lasso around the tallest one and dragged her to the crib
I took off her moccasins and put on my bib
I’m wheelin’ and dealin’ I make a little bit of stealing
I’ll bring you back to the place and your dress I’m peeling
Your body’s on time and your mind is appealing
Staring at the cracks up there upon the ceiling
Some such nonsense is the bass that I’m throwing
Talking to a girl telling her I’m all knowing
She’s talking to the kid to the who
I’m telling here every lie that you know that I never did
Hey Ladies, Get Funky
Me in the corner with a good looking daughter
I dropped my drawers and it was welcome back Kotter
We were cutting up the rug she started cutting up the carpet
In my apartment I begged her please stop it
The gift of gab is the gift that I have
And that girl ain’t nothing but a crab
Educated no stupid yes
And when I say stupid I mean stupid fresh
I’m not James at 15 or Chachi in charge
I’m Adam and I’m adamant about living large
With the white sassoons and the looks that kill
Makin’ love in the back of my Coupe De Ville
I met a little cutie she was all hopped up on zootie
I liked the little cutie but I kicked her in the bootie
Cause I don’t kinda go for that messin’ around
You be listening to my records’ a number one sound
Step to the rhythm step step to the ride
I’ve got an open mind so why don’t you all get inside
Tune in turn on to my tune that’s live
Ladies flock like bees to a hive
Hey Ladies, Get Funky
She’s got a gold tooth you know she’s hardcore
She’ll show you a good time then she’ll show you the door
Break up with your girl it ended in tears
Vincent Van Gogh and mail that ear
I call her in the middle of the night when I’m drinking
The phone booth on the corner is damp and it’s stinking
She said come on over it was me that she missed
I threw that trash can through her window cause you know I got dissed
Your old lady left you and you went girls[x3] insane
You blew yourself up in the back of the 6 train
Take my advice at any price a gorilla like your mother is mighty weak
Sucking down pints till I didn’t know
Woke up in the morning at the Won Ton Ho
Cause I announce I like girls that bounce
With the weight that pays about a pound per ounce
Girls with curls and big long locks
And beatnik chicks just wearing their smocks
Walking high and mighty like she’s #1 and
She thinks she’s the passionate one
Beastie Boys – Hey Ladies
Too bad the guy is dead, otherwise Chris Farley should have played Kelly.
Jamie Foxx is too big for DJax….Chris Rock instead.
Kate Upton can play Kelly’s secretary…boobs mean ticket sales Pman.
Ha
I disagree with GMCliff, I have been beating the Mike Evans drum even before they got rid of DJax. I think he is the best size/speed blend in the draft and will be an absolute beast in the NFL. I watched a ton of SEC games because of the money line lol and on A&M it was basically a 2 man show between Manziel and Evans. The guy routinely busted defenses over the top and down the middle and was doubled constantly. He made an absolute joke out of the Alabama secondary that was schemed to stop him. I see him as Vjackson/Anquan Boldin type with better speed. If he trims down a bit and adds some more strenght and muscle hes a perfect redzone target even as a rookie.
In Wrs unless you are going WR by committee which the Eagles have done for a while since T.O I am fine smaller WRs. But with an offense that run heavy with downfield blocking a key part to the offense you need bigger outside Wrs. Also your no.1 receiving option has to be a threat in the redzone. The Eagles have lacked that for some time.
Dude I have saying Mike Evans since last September. He is a beast, the next TO. I have him as my number one receiver. As a fan I would be very very Happy to See Mike Evans in Kelly Green lol.
Lol Paulman just read ur post about me being on Gcobb’s campaign lol
That was a pretty good one.. Ha ..
The question the eagles need to ask themselves is the talent level @22 that much different than the talent level @56 due to the fact I expect them to trade back and hope so also. And if this is the deepest draft in 20yrs whynt wouldn’t you want double digits picks with so many holes you fix them all In one draft but can fix enough of them.
Mel Kiper Mock Draft is out. Eagles select Benjamin at 22.
1. Clowney
2.Robinson
3.Watkins
4. Manziel
5. Mack
6.Lewan
7.Evans
8.Bortles
9. Matthews
10.Dix
11.Gilbert
12. Ebron
13. Dennard
14. Donald
15. Beckham
16.Martin
17. Pryor
18. Cooks
19.Mosley
20.Carr
21. Shazier
22. Benjamin
23. Lee
24. Roby
25. Barr
26. Fuller
27. Lattimore
28. Moses
29 Hageman.
30. Matthews
31. Verrett
32. Tuitt
kiper is an idiot
Rd 2. He has the Eagles selecting Pierre Desir out Lindenwood Colleg. CB 6’1 200LBS
Bridgewater to the Texans.
He called me Izell, I gave him those first 2 picks for the Eagles, I stole Desir from GMCliff. LOL
Somehow I don’t see Barr making his way to pick #25…. Also saw Kiper’s 2nd round projection, I usually think he does a decent job, I wasn’t sold on his selections with a lot of teams.
Oh wait, I’m the biggest Benjamin fan on this site if they pick Benjamin at 22 while Barr is on the board, that would be the worst pick since Matt Barkley. LOL
I would lose my wig if Barr is on the board at 22 and we pass. Unless theres a post june 1st trade for Dion Jordan in the works.
Thats a key date because then the Dolphins can spread out that 10 mil cap hit over the next couple of years.
Cam Wake is a year older than Trent Cole for the Dolphins so they might still want Dion Jordon to replace him like some of you want to find Trent Cole’s replacement.
Have to remember Cam wasnt in the NFL for 2 years. He played CFL ball. Thats 2 years less wear and tear then Cole.
My favorite Trent Cole play is when he flips seattle OT Russell Okung and breaks his arm ending the big guy’s season. He also fractured David Deihl’s finger making it look as grotesque as Brian Baldinger’s finger. Love how tough Trent Cole is.
Barkley blows!!
I don’t agree with with his picks but I understand and agree with logic after 10. There can be a run on a position early and it starts to spread like wildfire. If in the first round Wrs start to go fast and early then all of sudden teams thinking they were going to get a stud in the bottom half of the 2nd will start to panic since guys like Benjamin are no longer there. Then the Robinsons and Bryants go even earlier in RD 2.
That is true but you cannot pass on Barr at 22. You just can’t.
I sure hope not..
I think Benjamin is too slow in and out of his Routes to be effective anytime soon in teh NFL.. He can handle the Alley-Oop once in the Red-Zone which he’s very good at.. But Running Routes versus NFL CB’s and getting open and separation, I see him struggling his 1st 2 Seasons…
He reminds me a lot like Alshon Jeffrey when he came out of College and it tool Jeffrey a year or 2 to get up to running strong routes, working on his quickness,etc,etc .. Now Jeffrey is a very good WR, but it took patience by teh Bears nad hard owrk and committment by him..
Detroit drafted a UCLA 6’7” TE last year that caught 7 tds in the red zone with only few more non td catches.
Jeffery, Gordon, Floyd and Keenan Allen all had great seasons for young players last year.
Houston and Jville set the tone for the entire draft.
I just can’t see an offensive coach passing on a shot at a QB at no.1
Jacksonville and can pick whoever they want and it will be an upgrade at any
position.
I still think Texans go with OLB Mack with their 1st Pick which throws the start of the Draft into a big tizzy… Now the Rams at #2 hold the Cards and were looking to trade Back.. With Clowney still on the Board, they will get bombared with Trade Offers and may decide to Draft him themselves..
The Rams at #2 and the Browns at #4 hold the Key as far as suprises, trade up’s and trade backs to this Draft..
Izzell – who did Kiper have Washington select with that early 2nd rounder and where did Kony Ealy land?
Chris Borland to the Skins who I like alot and would be a good ILB.
Doesnt have Ealy in the first 2 rounds unless I am seeing the Matrix staring at the screen and missed his name.
After a great deal of thought, I have decided that if we can’t get Su-a Filo, Mosley or Pryor, I would have no issue with trading down. It actually makes sense because I think the guy we need to target is Attaochu and he is a reach at 22 and gone at 35. If Jax wants to take Clowney and trade back in for a QB, I would give them 22 for 35 and 67.
That is the only how I see a team trading for 22. If Carr/Bridgewater are there at 22 still and a team that didnt get a QB with a top pick like Hou/Jax want back in. Outside of that I see nothing of significance for a trade back unless someone non QB related drops like a rock more than likely a WR like Lee or Beckham.
No NO NO Koolbreeze said draft Bridgewater or Carr at 22. Didn’t you get the memo?
hahahaha
The question is where is Bridgewater on the Eagles board. He is definitely a top 5 talent wise. Drafting Bridgewater at 22 would be excellent value! What if Foles falls flat on his face this year? The Eagles better have a viable plan for the Quarterback position, just in case Foles folded and if he does the Eagles are not paying him franchise QB money. As it stands now, are you really going to bank on Sanchez or Barkley? Hell NO!
Bridgewater should be a top-5 pick on the Eagles board…if he drops to 22 and you follow the Eagles stated philosophy of taking the best player available…he has to be your guy.
With the Signing of Mark Sanchez of $4 Million and 4th Round Pick Barkely as the back-up to Foles.. I do not believe the Eagles will look at any QB in this Draft.. I can’t see them going into Camp with 4 QB’s they have way too many other needs.. This Camp and Pre-Season will determine if Barkley has a legitimate shot of Playing in the NFL whether its for the Eagles or as Trade Bail next Off-Season
The 2015 Draft they will target a QB
Bridgewater will have a very short NFL Career.. He’s 15-20 lbs too light and will getkilled weighing at 208lbs as he does now.. He has a average to below average arm and word is that he has struggled with the X’s & O’s and Interview Process which no Team or Reporter will admit to in Public due to the usual Racial Overtones…
I bet a QB Taj Boyd has a better Long-term NFL QB Career than Bridgewater
I believe Bridgewater is a solid step below last Years Prospect in Geno Smith but with a weaker arm…
I disagree Paul…Bridgewater will get bigger due to the natural maturation process the human body goes through as it gets older, plus I’m sure he will be working out and eating right. Bridgewater is the most football IQ intelligent QB prospect in this draft.
Tajh Boyd blows…inaccurate and inconsistent…the exact opposite of Teddy as far as fundamentals. Boyd has a good arm, I don’t care for him as a nfl starting calibur QB though.
Caliber
With improved Mecahnics that Boyd will learn and receive at the NFL Level, I believe he has a higher cieling, though it will take a good 2 Years.. Boyd was a 3-4 Year Starter, is a Winner and has many ACC Passing Records versus much better Compeition & Athletes and Coaching than what Bridgewater ammased playing in the BIg-East Conference and hateve it was called last year..
Excellent Strategy JVird and I agree with you 100%
Thanks Paulman. I just read my post and I meant to say he would be gone at 54.
Agreed theis draft is as deep as it gets. Lets get a few more picks if we cant get Evans.
Latest rumor swirling is Bryce Brown for LeMichael James straight up.
No Way IJ,
49ers are stCked at RB with Gore,Hunter
and last years Draft pick RB Marcus Lattimore who is returning from
Torn ACL back in 2012 and was recently given a clean bill of health to return
To football duties
The 49ers are looking for pass-rushers to make up for the likely loss of Aldon Smith and an aging Justin Smith
Brandon Graham is in play here and possibly Vinny Curry
I can see a Deal foe either to 49ers for James and one of their
Multiple 3rd or 4th Round Picks
I disagree with your stacked. If they did that trade and AGAIN im posting what I am seeing as rumors….Bryce Brown is a closer alternative to Frank Gore than Kendall Hunter is. Marcus Lattimore is a wild card pick they could afford to fly in the 4th and can easily wash their hands of if he doesnt recover to be the back he was pre injury. Gore is pushing the RB Old Folks home age….and they are going to need inexpensive options at RB especially if they have to break the bank for CK.
A draft Choice would be the Cheapest Alternative for 49ers rather than taking on Brown whose Rookie Deal is up after next Season ?
Gore will be the Featured Back in 2014 with Lattimore gettig more and more carries to groom for 2015.. If Lattimore is healthy and shows promise, then Gore is Released after 2014 and they move forward with Lattimore,Hunter and a Draft Pick…
They are not going the RB route in the draft again. Its better for them to bring in a vet. Same reason they probably cant go WR again in the draft and they went after Floyd. They need this year contributors. Aj Jenkins and James should have been major contributors but they busted. Brown would leap frog Hunter and Lattimore day 1.
It just makes me sad that BB would be a 1200+ yard back on another team but we just can’t use him and don’t like him in our offense. He is actually perfect for 49ers and Gore is just about done. I could also see him killing it in Pittsburgh. He makes a perfect Steeler back as much as that would make me sick since I hate them.
Steelers have RB LeVeon Bell and just signed Big Back Legarett Blount
they have little to no need at RB and need to focus on OL and WR and their aging Defense if they want to contend anytime soon
No I was just saying he would look the part if they had a need. I could just see him in their uniform and their system.
You would look good in a throwback “Steelers Uniform ” ..
Those Prison Uniforms with the Stripes & Ugly Socks would be perfect for J-Bird .. Ha Ha
Izzelljenkins wow ur right let’s not trade back in the deepest draft in 20yrs let’s just use our 6 picks we have and that’s it lol.
Slow down cuz….no one said don’t trade back. Don’t post what I didnt say. My point is you don’t just trade back because you can without identifying a team that wants to jump up. I already said that a team in the top of the 2nd can trade up to 22 if they dont have the qb they wanted in the first. Did you miss that point?
I hit the post button by accident the point was trade down as much as you can to get as many picks as possible in rd 2-4 they need to much just to make one trade they need multiple trades unless they do that trade with the 49ers that I mentioned before I could care less who drops or not the only player I’m drafting @22 if he drops is Watkins,Mack or Evans other wise trade down get all the picks u need.
One problem Smitty. They sucked ass in the later rounds last year and pretty much did squat after Logan. Wolff is a back upon a real defense. I might be wrong about him though. You never know. The point is if we get more picks they need to find some Jason Kelces and Trent Coles out there this year, because those late picks were trash last year. Kruger? I love following the bloodline of a flash in the pan mediocrity.
You have to care about who drops…that is the only scenario where teams start to move up. The 49ers don’t have glaring needs that they have to trade up for. I understand the logic but the need isnt there.
The perfect scenario for trade ups are that either a top WR falls because someone reaches for Benjamin in the first so it pushes a Lee or Beckham down or if Bridgewater/Carr or even Manziel start sliding and they are their at the end of the first. Then the teams at the top of the 2nd can move up. Especially if Houston doesnt go with a QB in round 1. Then they have a valuable pick in RD.2 and any team thats wants one of those qbs needs to leap frog them.
I wonder if Dallas would take Teddy at 16? But I don’t see JJ as the black QB type. He is pretty crackery and wouldn’t think that was a good football move.
***NFC East Teams Top 3 Rounds for Mock Draft****
(assuming there are No Trades Ups/Downs by any NFC East Teams)
NY Giants
1st Rd (#12) DT Aaron Donald (Pitt 6-2 298lbs)
2nd Rd (#45) OLB Jeremiah Attachou (Ga Tech 6-3 252lbs)
3rd Rd(#76) OT Billy Turner (North Dakota St 6-5 315lbs)
Cowboys
1st Rd (#16) Safety Ha-Ha Clinton Dix (Alabama 6-1 208lbs)
2nd Rd (#49) DE Scott Critchon (Oregon State 6-3 273lbs)
3rd Rd (#80) DT Ego Ferguson (LSU 6-3 315lbs)
Redskins
1st Rd (#2) No Selection – Traded to Rams in RGIII Deal
2nd Rd (#34) Safety – Jimmie Hall (Northern Illinois 5-11 195lbs)
3rd Rd (#66) Guard – Gabe Jackson (Miss State 6-3 335lbs)
EAGLES
1st Rd (#22) DT – Ra’Sheede Hageman (Minnesota 6-6 318lbs)
2nd Rd (#54) WR – Jordan Matthews (Vanderbilt 6-3 212lbs)
3rd Rd (#86) CB – Jaylen Watkins (Florida 6-0 195lbs)
That’s it for now
If thats how it plays out….the Eagles would have the worst draft in the division. Hageman in the 1st round? Horrible, horrible pick! Watkins won’t last 2 seasons in the league, the only reason he is even mentioned is bc he played in the SEC.
I have faith in Chip Kelly .. He and his Staff will Coach these kids up…
You forget Jones LOVED Quincy Carter and was heartbroken it didnt work. He always say Carter would have been Romo if not better.
I never realized that Izzell. That is a surprise to me. He just seems very old school in his thinking. I always thought he just got stuck with Carter. Did he get hurt, lose his desire to play or did Parcells not like him? That has always been a mystery to me.
As a funny aside. A lot of guys get offended on here about the AA QB debates. One of my very best and oldest friends is a die hard Cowboys fan and black as well. He hated Qunicy Carter and always said you can’t win a SB with a black QB. That always made me laugh.
They need a bunch of pics in those rds 2-4 is key for them I think Wolfe will ok not great or good just ok he may end up being solid. I just don’t see the point In making only 6picks.
I would be thrilled if he could be Quinton Mikell but that is probably a reach. I just want to get a GOOD starting S, CB or OLB that can rush his ass off for 2015. I really struggle to see any way they get more than one of those three pieces in this draft unless there is some PURE luck. Maybe if they take Fuller and then Attaochu somehow falls to 54. But after blazing a 4.5 at his pro day thats not going to happen. He is actually a much better prospect than the under sized Ford. Aside from getting one of those spots taken care of, we need to find two other solid starters that are upgrades over the current ones.
By the way just looking ahead. If you want to go “ALL IN” next year. Fuck Jarius Byrd. Thomas and Sherman are both FAs next year and there is no way Seattle shells out $22-25 million a year for two guys. One of them is changing addresses.
One gets franchised and its probably Thomas. Sherman gets the deal first.
Izell Mr Wilson gets his money next year also and even with the franchise tag you are still talking $20 million minimum for those two. Although I could actually see them agreeing to eight million a piece for two years just to keep the band together a while longer before they cash in with the caveat that they can’t be franchised after the two years.
And I disagree on Thomas. Sherman gets franchised because he will be greedier than Thomas. Also Thomas is the Joe Greene or Richard Seymour of their blossoming dynasty. He was the original piece and that makes him very special in Seahawk history.
Your missing the point I’m not arguing whos better or whose getting paid. I agree with you. However the franchise tag for Safety is much easier to incorporate in the cap then CB. Its the Namdi Asomugha/Revis rule….you can’t franchise a CB and have him count 12-15+ against the cap. I believe the safety franchise tag is under 10 million.
No I totally got your point, I just think Thomas means more to the franchise and they would bend over backwards for him over Sherman. So Sherman will get 12 either way. May as well do Thomas’s deal first.
Izzell not to beat a dead horse but IMO safeties are more important than CBs now anyway.
Safety Earl Thomas has already said he would never be interested in playing for the Eagles, no matter how much $$$, was involved since the Eagles Passed on him 3 Years ago to Draft Brandon Graham instead.. He Says he will never forget that moment of betrayal,anger and flat out rage…
Scratch him off any future Eagle List
And Sherman hates us because he thinks we did his boy dirty.
By the way. Are you bullshitting again or did he really think the Eagles had promised they wanted him?
I am bullshitting again Jbird… I have no idea what Safety Earl Thomas thinks or was or was not told leading up to that Draft, but I do have a strong feeling, that I am not very far off in my assesment..
Until they give him 30mil guaranteed upfront and 20 signing. lol Money talks.
Yeah and Andy was the idiot. Howie kisses his ass and tells him that he wanted to take him but was over ruled and sees that as the worst move in his tenure with the franchise. How can we ever make it up to you? Does this $30 million check seem like a good start.
hahahahaha Exactly. Earl Thomas has said more than once he thinks he has more Eagles fans than Seahawks fans because they always hit him up on social media.
Somewhere Brandon Graham just punched another wall.
I actually feel bad for the young man. Metrics love Brandon Graham. #2 4-3 DE but Washy wouldn’t put him on the field over his whiny butt buddy Babin. And #10 OLB despite 25% playing time. He is actually going to be a 10-12 sack guy on somebody else’s team. I truly believe that.
I respect Chip Kelly so far and understand he has a plan but he gave away about 15 sacks last year by throwing away Cox and Graham in his 3-4 system. Two first round picks down the tubes just because you don’t like a the 4-3? I just feel some sort of way about that.
But definitely on point. This years free agents were nothing to go crazy about.
What I would’ve took revis.talib, Vernon over Cary Williams.
Paulman this is my last post since I am bleeding out right now after slashing my wrists about your picks in the above post. High risk DL, average WR, and Jack of all trades master of none DB. Thanks a lot Paulman. I will have nightmares now.
Sorry JBird, I just Call them as I see them.. for better or worse…
Who is the shocking player this year for the Eagles? Does Fletcher Cox have the light go on and start looking a lot like JJ Watt? Does Maclin actually finally have that break out season that never came and look like a #1 WR? Does Zach Ertz make the PB in year two with 75 catches and ten TDs? Does Vinny Curry come back at 290 lbs and burst onto the scene with ten sacks and send Thornton or Cox packing? Does Foles actually look better than last year outside the numbers and have people start whispering Elite? Does Boykin get his shot on the outside and turn in a PB season forcing Kelly to make exception to his size requirements?
3 Players that Surprise and Shine for 2014 Eagles
CB – Nolan Carroll beats out Fletcher in Summer Camp and goes on to have a Good,Solid Season
OLB – Phillip HUnt beats out Trent Cole in SUmmer Camp and has a Solid Season and leads the Team with 5 & 1/2 Sacks
Kicker – Alex Henerey wins the Kicker Battle in Camp, adds 5-7 Yards to his Kick-offs and consistently gets them into the End-Zone
The rest of the Players are staus quo..
Thanks for the answers. Aside from Henery none of that makes us better in 2014. And does he become automatic from 49 in? nd can he make 60% beyongd that? Also Cole won’t be benched because his is a no cut contract. They eat too much money. So he stays and he starts. And 5.5 sacks leading the team has us in Jax territory and hurting for certain in the sack department.
Hunt is NOT on the roster and WIL NOT be re-signed. Remember big people beat up small people. Hunt is small people.
He’s a Restricted Free-Agent and his status is in limbo and has received very little interest from around the League..
Go ahead and substitute Bryan Braman or Emmanual Acho in place of Hunt
Lord please let the eagles trade back don’t let them pick a player just to pick a player Trade back Trade back Trade back damn it HOwie trade back lol
I think the Giants & Ravens are going to steal our Players
Gloomy if we stand pat and don’t get additional Picks.. .
If stand pat howie needs to be shot!!!!
Last years draft was a mirage. We drafted a RT at # 4 who was ok I guess but wouldn’t be a top 25 pick this year. I understand that we didn’t know how Peters would recover and now that he did it sucks that the 4th pick in the draft is a RT. You cant convince me LJ was the 4th best player in last years draft class. Ertz who was ok and I guess could become a nice player but nowhere near the pedigree of Ebron or Cameron Jordan. . A NT in Logan who is too small and we are still talking about getting a bigger prototypical NT. Then a wasted 4th round pick who we moved up to get in Barkley. He is so good we brought in Sanchez to be our backup.
Lane Johnson is a dominate run blocking mauler. He is bigger, faster and stronger every snap and man handles his responsibility in the running game. Shady and Desean had career years because Lane Johnson provided time and space. He is an excellent draft selection taking the teams biggest 2012 weakness and making it the teams strength.
Zach Ertz was a top 25 NFL TE last season and will be top 15 this year.
The Philadelphia Eagles don’t play the 3-4 defense you think they play. They play a hybrid where more 70% of the snaps they are in a 4-3 defense. Fat blobs on the DL are being phase out of the NFL. The Defensive players are getting smaller not larger.
I agree with EOSB and especially about the DL/DT
Look at all the Top DT’s in this Draft and most of them are all in that
6-2′ & 300lbs Range but who are atlhletic and can get penetration and to the QB…
Players like Aaron Donald, Tim Jernnigan, Will Sutton, Dominique Easly & Kelcy Quarles are all the new NFL Protoype DT’s
Larger Players that simply take space to clog the middle are fewer and fewer and as the Passing Game continues to dominate the College & NFL Game, we will see less and less Big Stud 340 LB NT’s for they simply are not needed as much as Pass-Rushing DT’s are … It’s about attack, attack the QB and backfield which is what Pro Teams & COllege Programs are now looking for..
In today’s NFL most Teams Defenses are willing to give up a 100-120 Yards Rushing against them in small dose’s.. It’s the Big Plays in the Passing Game or the Long Runs or Screen Plays that they want to prevent..
It’s about Scoring Points, and Holding the other Teams from Big Plays and Creating Turnovers.. 340lb NT don’t contribute much too this and when you look around the NFL, Most of Big Mammoth NT play 15-20 Snaps a game at most (Short-Yardage & Red Zone)
Today’s DL’s are more athletic and explosive across the Board
Lane Johnson is a dominate run blocking mauler – The Hell he is!!!
Wake up you gullible fool….LOL!!!!
He is bigger, faster and stronger every snap and man handles his responsibility in the running game. Shady and Desean had career years because Lane Johnson provided time and space. He is an excellent draft selection taking the teams biggest 2012 weakness and making it the teams strength. – BULLCRAP – The health of the Offensive Line, mainly Peters, Mathis, and Kelce anchored that line – Stop acting like that scrub did it by himself – What about those 22 sacks he gave up??? – he stinks.
Zach Ertz wasn’t a top nothing last year
Aaron Donald, Tim Jernigan, Will Sutton, Dominique Easley & Kelcy Quarles are all the new NFL Protoype DT’s – Not true, and none of them will be any good in the NFL – ironic that those are players that you’ve been mocking – what a shock
340lb NT don’t contribute much too this and when you look around the NFL, Most of Big Mammoth NT play 15-20 Snaps a game at most (Short-Yardage & Red Zone) – Haloti Ngata, Akiem Hicks, Dontari Poe did….Vince Wilfork, Gilbert Brown, and more did it for years….more BS
The Eagles a a year late. Just imagine if the Eagles had the #4 pick this year. It sure in the hell wouldn’t be a RT. We would be discusiing if Watkins is there, Khalil Mack or possibly Clowney dropping. We could drop back and get a Mike Evans or a Pryor or even that stud LT from Auburn Greg Robinson.The talk would be are the Eagles taking Johnny football at #4. Last years draft was like the Evan Turner draft. SMH
Congratulations to the Eagles for their 15th year in a row in reaching the elite 8 in the salary cap superbowl. The Eagles sit at #5 somewhere between Oakland the Jaguars and Cleveland with the most cap space at just over 20 million.With the cap going up possible 15 million and Coles numbers coming off the books and few other players being released or restructured the Eagles should be between 45-50 million under the cap next year. Hip hip hurray.There cap management shrewdness has been a blessing in these parts with the multiple superbowl wins, this system is genius. Did I mention Cleveland, Oakland and the Jags are right there with them. brilliant! Its amazing how these other teams even compete with the salary cap elite 8. Oh yeah we saving to give Nickolas 20 million next year, that’s why we are doing this. Just imagine in 2 years when shady is done how much more we can save!. #eaglesaresmarterthaneveryoneelse
Gold Standard in action.
I’m getting my t-shirts printed up!
Wonder if GMCliff has any of those “Sweat-Suit Warm-Up Outfits” from the last couple of Years .. He said he ordered quite a bit of them …
paul, that was the kiss his ass club T-shirts, you’re thinking about. LOL!
GMCliff’s boy Kony Ealy is getting scathing reviews on the NFL.com. The SEC OL of 2012 and 2013 NFL and soon to be NFL lineman apparently handled him easily. His true draft stock value is 3rd or 4th round longshot starter, role player as a 3rd and long interior pass rusher like Vinny Curry.
Charlie Casserly (whom I respect as a talent evaluator) killed Kony Ealy…stating that he’s a second to third round talent, and that he disappeared when he went against top college tackles who are projected to be good pro tackles.
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder……I see him differently….I respect Charley as well…….But it’s not like he hasn’t been wrong about the abilities of a prospect…..He killed Vontaze Burfict too….and well……..we all found out GMCliff was right…..:)
You are blind! Ealy is being pushed up the board bc of the lack of true pass rushers. He is terrible against the run. Can’t get off of blocks and is weak at the point of attack. Had 1 decent year in college!
Casserly killed Burfict bc of his lack of discipline on the field and his off the field actions. He stated that Burfict had the base to be a very good player but was very immature. So essentially he evaluated Burfict correctly.
So far I have yet to see you name a prospect that has a chance to be more then a special teamer.
You have zero respect or ability in the evaluation world!!! Get a clue! Your view is your view and everyone else’s is there view, so stop trying to be an expert when you are nothing more then a fantasy dreamer.
E0S – I’ll ignore anything you say about Ealy – I’m not even going to imagine you have a clue.
Charley was wrong – the guy was a pro bowler…Jackass
So far, I have yet to see you name a prospect that has a chance to be more then a special teamer???? Where have you been?? I have given the names of over 20 Pro Bowlers – 2 this year made the all rookie team…….E0S, that says – KISS MY ASS
Let’s see how you do, and what you mock works out to be before you come trolling me – because I haven’t seen any results from you that say that you have a leg to stand on…….
OK RETARD LET ME SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU!!!! MY NAME IS SAM Z. I AM 42 AND FROM SNJ. I AM NOT YOUR MAN CRUSH E0S!
RE-READ WHAT CASSERLY SAID. HE SAID HE WAS TALENTED BUT DISCIPLINE AND OFF FIELD ISSUES MADE HIM AS A FORMER GM DROP BURFICT OFF HIS DRAFT BOARD.
I COULD LIST EVERY ROOKIE AND I WOULD PICK A FEW PRO-BOWLERS ALSO! YOUR EVALUATIONS ARE WORD FOR WORD FROM WHAT YOU HAVE READ WHEN YOU LOOKED UP THE PLAYER. YOU PERSONALLY HAVE NOT EVALUATED A SINGLE PERSON BC YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT A TALENTED FOOTBALL PLAYER LOOKS LIKE. GOOD EXAMPLE….BURFICT WHO RAN REAL HIGH 4’S IN THE 40, COULDN’T KEEP HIS COOL IN GAMES, OVER REACTED TO RUN PLAYS AND WASN’T EFFECTIVE IN THE RUN GAME. SO FOR YOU TO TYPE THAT YOU SAID HE WOULD BE A PRO BOWLER IS STRAIGHT UP BULLSHIT!
WHY DON’T YOU COME UP TO MY AREA AND WE WILL WATCH THE DRAFT TOGETHER. BRING A MOCK DRAFT AND ALL YOUR RESEARCH! I’LL PAY YOUR WAY HERE……
I don’t pay attention to anyone else’s evaluations E0S……and you haven’t seen me give any personal evaluations, because I am one that can see the talent – either they have it or they don’t – so don’t give me anymore of your unfounded criticism….
AND, I don’t care what you say your name is , or where you’re from – you’re eagles0superbowls
YOUR EVALUATIONS ARE WORD FOR WORD FROM WHAT YOU HAVE READ WHEN YOU LOOKED UP THE PLAYER.
Yeah, post a copy of one of my evaluations, and prove that to everybody on here than chump!!
You won’t find one in the last 6 years – Earn our respect, WITH RESULTS BASED ON YOUR EVALUATIONS – then criticize E0S. GMCliff will always be standing – no matter what BS you post.
GMCliff – I praised Songs for his unyielding belief in Vontaze Burfict. I don’t remember whether you liked Burfict or not. I do remember you interrupting my pre-draft evaluation of Luke Kuechly post with a rude tantrum about I know nothing about football and anyone that thinks Kuechly is anything but Matt McCoy should leave the website however. I consider your talent evaluation skills 50/50. ( a coin flip) No real skill. I predict next off season you read all about pass rushers and get a boner again. Hopefully you won’t get irrationally possessive with your he is mine, mine, mine you can’t like him, I saw him first behavior again.
Your pre-draft evaluation of Luke Kuechly – wasn’t YOUR evaluation but that of a lot of posters….YOU haven’t given anything.
He is one of two players you have been trolling me about for the last 2 years – so what – yet you ignore the other what>? – 50 BIGTIME prospects that have become impact players – Nobody denies that but you…….
like I said your gonna bring something to the table this year, or shut up…….
E0S…….stop wasting your time responding to that moron. He has no clue what talent is. He is living his fantasy through this site. His life is that pathetic that this is the only place he can feel good about himself.
I offered to help him out and pay for his trip up here for the draft and of course he declined bc he knows the truth.
If he thought Kuechly was another Matt Mccoy that says it all !!!!
GMCliff- the cards will be dealt May 11, 2014. World Series of Poker, not your kitchen table stacked deck wild card game of a, b, c choices in round 1, 2, 3.
Eaglehaslanded was right on Burfict as well!!!
I am not very impressed by Kony Ealy and stated so early on..
Missouri’ other DE Michael Sam outplayed Ealy in most of their Games last Season.. and how GMCliff thinks Ealy can drop back at the NFL Level in Pass Coverages and be productive and a playmaker right away is beyond me…He’s about a 3rd Round Prospect in my opinion and can Rush the Passer, but he is not a 3-4 OLB player at the NFL Level at this time an Situational Pass-Rusher like most DE’s/OLB in this Draft are
DE Michael Sam outplayed Ealy in most of their Games last Season..
That’s a flat out lie Paul, and you know it…….Yet, he will be drafted before Sam….
My stance hasn’t changed on Kony Ealy – and I think your wrong in your evaluation of him Paul…
Where did I say that Sam would be drafted before Ealy
Ealy is a 3rd Round Prospect & Sam is a 5th/6th Round Prospect in my book..
I rather the Eagles either Draft a True DE (Kareem Martin,Marcus Smith, Scott Critchon, Taylor Hart, Will Clarke) and a True OLB (Van Noy,Reilly,Bradford) instead of another Tweener to try to play both Positions..
They already have 3 Tweeners at OLB/DE (Cole,Graham,Curry) so why add a similar size Player to the Mix.. Get Bigger & Stronger..
Paul you just stated that Sam, played better than Ealy – Given the notion that he was a better player – thus drafted before him because to your point he is better prospect……..
You keep going back and forth – because when he ran that 4.57 at his pro day – all of the sudden you were like – he was going to be drafted early by the Cowboys, and the Giants in the 1st – now someone gives their personal evaluation, that’s negative – and now to you he is a 3rd round pick – That’s okay because you’re still wrong.
I did state that Sam played better in many Games that did ealy last Season.. A handful of games does not determine the NFL Draft Prospect rankings though…
I see ealy as a DE only and in a 4-3 Scheme which could be Giants/Cowboys, but not in the 1st Round..
Maybe 2nd Round to one of those Teams or even the Falcons or Vikings or Bengals. But ealy has falling down the Board and there are better Prospects in the 1st Round than Kony Ealy… It is what it is, Your boy had a chance to shine at Combin and Pro-Workout Days and he failed to capitalize.. It’s not my or your fault…
and do remember that the Draft Process is a fluid event, what was known and thought of about Prospects in January or Febuary can often change by April/May… Things like Intelligence,Work-Ethic, How a Player Fits a Pareticular Scheme, Character & Off the Field Issues are all delved into by most Teams & Scouting Reports
It would be easy to say the Top 50 players are this based on Athletic Ability alone, but we all know that’s not how it works.. There are many,many factors that Organzations use in determining who are the Best Prospects for their Organizations moving forward..
says who he’s fallen down the board??? – I just saw a mocks that had him going to the Cardinals, Saints, Eagles, Vikings, Broncos, and 49ers in the first….says who – when the draft hasn’t been finalized
Everybody lies in the NFL this time of year – Howie Roseman included….
Your boy had a chance to shine at Combine and Pro-Workout Days and he failed to capitalize..
His Pro Day was boss and you know it…everything he did was better than Clowney….I know you would hate for me to be right about him, and the Eagles draft him to your objection – AND I’m NOT SAYING THEY WILL.. but they would benefit from having him as a part of their defense…..However drafts him definitely will.
I say that that Ealy is dropping down the Big Board GMCLiff..
I don’t follow the Talking Heads conventional wisdom.. I have down-graded Ealy to a Mid 2nd-Rounder for over a month now..
Other DE”s have been moving up the Board (like Kareem Martin, Marcus Smith, you know, the players I’ve talked about since December/January)
Who’s Big Board???
Whomever you’re referring to. I don’t pay any attention to that because it means nothing once the draft starts…
So, if he is drafted in the 1st Round, although you downgraded him – That would mean, that Big Board isn’t worth a darn right???
Other DE”s have been moving up the Board (like Kareem Martin, Marcus Smith, you know, the players I’ve talked about since December/January)….That’s a lie Paul, and you know it!!!
Those are YOUR GUYS….For years you have always overstated your guys – Making statements like this person is moving up – and they have been mocked right where they were since the end of the season –
I saw Kareem Martin, and Marcus Smith mocked between the 3rd-4th Round, and they are still there – But because they are your guys, you exaggerate, and say he’s moving up the Board – No they aren’t….. BS.
Paulman’s Big Board GmCliff…
I have both MArtin and Smith now in the 2nd Round as I have Ealy down from the 1st to the 2nd Round also
I beleive the last 10 Selections of the 1st Round will see a big WR & CB Prospect’s Run leaving many DL, LB and OL and a couple QB’s going the first half of the 2nd Round (35th-50th)
By: Geoff Mosher
Kony Ealy is a 6-foot-4, 237-pound defensive end with high upside whose draft stock has been on the rise in the last few weeks. (USA Today Images)
Eagles mock drafts
Between now and the draft, our draft pundits Ron Burke, Chris Steuber, Jared Sherman and Geoff Mosher will provide their latest Eagles mock drafts. They will make selections for each of the Eagles’ six picks, and when they update their selections, their new mocks will be posted.
Round 1, pick 22: Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri (6-4, 273)
Ealy’s stock keeps rising. Scouts feel his upside is through the roof and his best days are two or three years down the road. In that sense, he can be this year’s Lane Johnson, a freakish athlete who will learn the game on the fly.
If he’s not ready to start, Ealy can sit behind Trent Cole and Connor Barwin on run downs and come in for pass-rushing situations. By his second year, Ealy will have learned the ins and outs of being a 3-4 outside linebacker and added the necessary weight to play the run and become a starter.
You don’t have to worry about my guys – Just finally after 2 years, state who your guys are so that we can troll, and criticize you – you know nothing coward…….
E0S –
relax GMCliff,
May 11, 2014 you can get a shot at the starting lineup in the 2nd annual beat Howie Roseman Challenge.
I told you I won’t be participating – I have nothing to prove
– unlike yourself who does, because he has yet to name one prospect ahead of the game or otherwise, that is better than any of my mocked pre-draft prospects…..
You haven’t named 1 prospect worth a damn that FITS the Eagles yet. Good way to cover how scared you are! PUSSY
LOL!! Yeah Right, then you don’t need to say anything else to me then, if that’s true right,……or are you the only person that feels that way E0S??
only PERSON SCARED E0S, is you……Let’s have a list of your impact prospects, make sure you start with Stephen Tuitt….LOL!!!
Who needs Howie if you’re so smart..7 Rounds of impact players reasonably within the Eagles reach….
Kony Ealy OLB/DE, Kyle Fuller CB, Deone Buchannon SS, Jimmie Ward FS, Jeremiah Attoachu OLB, Gabe Jackson OG, Cody Latimere WR, Paul Richardson WR, Phillip Gaines CB, Pierre Desir CB, Walt Aikens CB, Cyril Richardson OG, Andrew Jackson ILB, Logan Thomas QB, Daniel McCullers DT, Justin Ellis DT, Ethan Westbrooks DE,
Undrafted Free Agents :
Jeremiah George 6-0 248 ILB – Iowa State,
Brandon Denmark 6-4 235 ILB/OLB – Florida A&M,
Carlos Fields 6-2 235 OLB,
Howard Jones 6-4 238 OLB Shepard College,
Julien David 5-11 S Howard University,
David Born 6-8 330 OT Old Dominion University
Cory Washington 6-4 207 WR Newberry College,
Jordan Harris 6-1 215 WR Bryant University,
Jordan Love 6-1 190 CB Towson University
Colt Lyeria 6-4 252 TE Oregon
They all fit – No matter what you say – Let their play prove me wrong. The 20 ProBowlers make my point –
Where are yours E0S?? FOR THE 50TH TIME…..
OMG – GMCliff that is 27 players today.
Oh wow gm way to “evaluate” players. You only listed just about everyone with a late 1st or 2nd round grade from the experts as your potential Eagle fits/picks.
As far as the FA rookies…you don’t know the Eagles at all do you? They want BIGGER players and players from winning programs. So that leaves you 1 guy….Lyeria who has linked to the Eagles as a 7th round pick or FA signing since the off-season started. Thats bc he played at Oregon.
So do you want just a list of players or do you want why they will fit with the Eagles. Apparently your idea of “evaluating” players is just listing names that experts say could be available when the Eagles pick.
Here’s my list pussycliff……Calvin Pryor S, Kyle Fuller CB/S, Kyle Van Noy DE/OLB, Jeremiah Attoachu OLB, Deone Buchannon S, Hart DE/DT, Tripp OLB, Lyeria TE……notice the pattern. Big (size wise) players from WINNING programs.
Now when you can evaluate a player I will post a mock draft with details…till then go Google more players LOSER.
Everybody on the site knows these players are basically the same players that I mentioned during the middle of the College season – fact – don’t cry about what has been established – I brought these names to the attention of the GCobb Family before you, or anyone else even knew who they were……..deal with it
But can the ones that aren’t duplicates to mine actually play????
Big (size wise) players from WINNING programs – doesn’t mean anything unless they an play – The Heisman trophy winner for years was from a winning program, and couldn’t play on the NFL level –
Your thinking already tells me you shouldn’t be trying to act like you know what your talking about…
BTW, I’m still waiting for your word for word evaluation post you claim I wrote……
I say Van Noy, Hart, Tripp, and anybody else you come up with will be bust in their overall careers…….
27 more players than you have this year E0S – OR IS IT 25?? LOL!!!
WHERE ARE YOUR NAMES FRAUD?…..I thought so Coward..LOL!!!
Apparently your idea of “evaluating” players is just listing names that experts say could be available when the Eagles pick…
I don’t listen to the so called experts – I told you that E0S – I think for myself, and good thing because Kiper, and Mayock have been wrong for years…LOL!!!
If that were true, then you wouldn’t have an UDFA List from me as well…..Tell me, where are they ranked???……
You do know you sound like an ass when you talk, and don’t make sense in your reasoning right?????/
You truly are a RETARDED POS!!!!!
You aren’t even smart enough to realize I’m not your man crush…..and again IF you are so talented at evaluating why are you doing it for free on this site? Its bc you are NOT talented at anything other then living in a fantasy world.
You never brought anyone to anyone’s attention. AND IF YOU CLAIM YOU BROUGHT THEM TO THE GCOBB FAMILIES ATTENTION DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE COLLEGE SEASON, EVERYONE ALREADY KNEW WHO AND WHAT THEY WERE. SO YOUR OWN WORDS SHOW YOU ARE A FRAUD!!!!!
I KNEW WHO BARR, PRYOR, EVANS, WATKINS, BUCHANNON, AND ALL THE OTHERS WERE GOING INTO THE COLLEGE SEASON. REAL EVALUATORS KNOW THE PLAYERS BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS…NOT HALF WAY THROUGH IT.
AGAIN IF KIPER AND MAYOCK ARE SUCH FRAUDS AND YOU ARE THE REAL THING, HOW COME THEY WORK FOR NATIONAL NETWORKS AND YOU COLLECT WELFARE? DON’T TRY THE DISABLED EXCUSE BC BOTH NETWORKS WOULD STILL EMPLOY YOU IF YOU WERE FOR REAL. SO WHEN YOU CAN WEAR A JOCKSTRAP PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
THE OFFER IS OUT THERE….IF YOU ARE FOR REAL LET ME PAY FOR YOUR TRIP UP HERE SO WE CAN ALL SEE YOUR TALENT. WE WILL HAVE A GCOBB DRAFT PARTY.
Wrong….They didn’t….They all said they were going to look up the players that I mentioned, and congratulated me on being ahead of the game…..
If you don’t have any real facts as to what I’m saying being true or not don’t just sling it prove me wrong. EOS, you never commented on that post – But the majority of the GCobb regulars did…..
I’m only a POS to you , because no matter what you say, or do you can’t discredit me, and I’m not challenged by you either…
Just one of the many loud mouths who have criticized, and fallen by the waste side…..They all come and go….You e0s refuse to die….that’s okay – You’ll just continue to keep looking like an ass, with egg on your face then,,,,,
THEY ALL STATED THEY DIDN’T EVEN KNOW WHO HALF THE PLAYERS WERE…
E0S, you did comment and asked how was I able to see 31 prospect this year at all these different schools – some you had never even heard of……..Paul said he did – He had multiple ESPN Channels, as do I…
I told you I don’t take you serious – Thus, what reason do I need to explain my circumstances to you??
If you don’t believe me, than so be it – Why should I give a darn?
and …..What would you be worrying about it for then…..You can’t change what the GCobb family – excluding you – have already acknowledged…..
You don’t have to worry about my guys – Just finally after 2 years, state who your guys are so that we can troll, and criticize you – you know nothing coward
Like I said none of these guys are worth taking @22 trade down howie pick up more picks help ur team for long haul…,
********trade alert ********
The dolphins send dion Jordan to the
Eagles for Brandon graham & fletcher cox…
There’s your shocker of the draft..
Fletcher Cox and Dion Jordan are not going anywhere
I see Brandon Graham getting Traded to 49ers for one of their multiple 3rd Round PIcks with the very likliehood that Aldon Smith will miss significant time and possibly the entire 2014 if he ends up with Jail Time.. (This is his 3 Felony Charge is less than 18 months and a very strong Possibility that he will be going to the Big House for a while)
The eagles if they stay where there at go on to select
#22-Ra’Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota
Height: 6-6. Weight: 310.
40 Time: 5.02.
Projected Round (2014): 1-2.
#54-Allen Robinson*, WR, Penn State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 220.
40 Time: 4.60.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
#86-Christian Jones, OLB/ILB, Florida State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 240.
40 Time: 4.74.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
#122-Ahmad Dixon, S, Baylor
Height: 6-0. Weight: 212.
40 Time: 4.41.
Projected Round (2014): 3-4.
#162-Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma
Height: 5-11. Weight: 177.
Projected 40 Time: 4.50.
Projected Round (2014): 4-6.
#232-Brandon Thomas, OT/G, Clemson
Height: 6-3. Weight: 316.
40 Time: 5.09.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3.
I like this one GLoomy
Probably the most realistic Mock Done so far with Players who will actually be available and fit the Eagles Schemes/System Well
Last 2 PIcks in Colvin & thomas won’t pay dividents until 2015 but are great Value PIcks and would be Drafted a lot sooner if not for their Injuries
I’ve Stated for a while about DT Hagemen which is a Risk, he will be BOom or Bust NFL Player but I think with the other hard-working young DL in COx,Thornton,Logan and the good Coaching from DL Jerry A that they can keep Hagemen mottivated and have him grow as a Player.. Physically , he has all the Talents & Skills to be a good one..
At 6-6 318lbs, he will be 330lbs by 2016 and able to dominate like a young Albert Haynesworth did in his Prime, he has that kind of natural strength & explosion off the ball when focused..
WOW…..not a good draft at all! Only pick that is good is Colvin. Hageman is not that good. Not worthy of a 1st round pick. Has BUST written all over him. Robinson is to slow. Jones is to light in the ass. Dixon isn’t impressive. Thomas has the torn ACL, no idea how he will recover.
Robinson, and Thomas won’t be available where you picked them and to pick them earlier is a huge reach.
You also had Dixon on your mock as well – Now you contradict yourself – LOL!!!
But you’re correct he isn’t impressive……that’s one bust for you waiting to happen……I think you should stop while you have a chance to save face.
Igglessb27
April 11, 2014 – 9:12 pm
Ok dude, I understand you have a hard-on for EOS thats your thing so please stop sharing it with everyone we aren’t interested.
I believe the Eagles trade down or even out of the 1st round but if they stay at #22
1st round- Lee WR USC. Picks someone Chip knows. Not my choice but it is what I believe they will do.
2nd round-Attaochu OLB Ga Tech. Big upside/great pass rusher.
3rd round- **A Dixon Safety Baylor. Big and fast for a Safety*********
4th round-B Coleman WR Rutgers. Big WR to replace Cooper after next year.
5th round-T Hart DE/DT Oregon. Someone Chip knows and adds depth to a thin DL.
7th round-C Lyerla TE Oregon. Again someone Chip knows. If Chip doesn’t draft him no one will. Hopes to get a 1st round talent late and hopes he is maturing……
Don’t forget E0S, because, I’m gonna remember – You just pissed on yourself dumbass……Bwhahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That mock draft was only made if the eagles traded fletcher cox for dion Jordan it’s a perfect player for player swap seeing as though neither player fits there scheme that they are in. I don’t even think they pick @22 I see them trading back and picking up a bunch of picks.
Why is everyone so quick to get rid of Cox? Last year was his 1st in the new defense and he had a good year. I believe getting rid of him would be a HUGE mistake. I believe he will have a very good year this year. For 1 he will be more experienced and 2 they will have some more rotational depth which will keep him fresher.
Wow cox had a good year I didn’t know that I thought his year was avg at best they could do a lot better than him with there scheme he doesn’t fit he is a 4-3 dt not a 3-4 de. To me the 3-4 dline all need to be run stoppers and space eaters for your lbs to run free cox isn’t a fun stuffer he is a pass rushers and this scheme doesn’t fit him at all.
Everyone needs to remember that the Eagles DL utilizes 4 DL in most Passing SIutations where Cox lines up as a Pass-rushing DT ..
I am not as down on Fletcher Cox as many are on here.. Note that he was Drafted as a 4-3 DT and is not a natural Pash-Rushing DE so anyone that expects him to get 10-12 Sacks is wishful thinking.. He’s a Run Stopper First and his best Pass-rRushing comes from the Inside and not as an Outside DE
since he is not a “Burst or Explosive DE”
New Paulman Eagles Mock Draft 2014 (Version #14)
1st – #22 – CB Kyle Fuller (Virgina Tech 6-0 190lbs)
2nd – #54 – DE Kareem Martin (UNC 6-6 272lbs)
3rd – #86 – DT Kelcy Quarles (South Carolina 6-4 300lbs)
4th – #122 – WR Jarvis Landry (LSU 6-0 205lbs – will play the Slot WR)
5th – #162 – Strong Safety Ahmad Dixon (Baylor 6-0 212lbs)
7th – #232 – ILB Andrew Jackson (Western Kentucky 6-1 255lbs)
Last year New England can stash Ryan Mallett as the QB of the future. The patriots may have to reset that OB in waiting position because Brady looks good for a few more seasons. Do the Patriots offer Mallett up for trade and draft another this year to develop?
I could see the Titans/Rams?Vikings all being very interested in Ryan Mallet… I also could see the Patriots Drafting QB Mettenberger from LSU or
a Keith Wenning from Ball State or even a Jeff Matthews from Cornell ..
Patriots like Tall, Decisive and Pocket QB’s for their System
Eagles felt it necessary to trade up even for Matt Barkley. Patriots may be a player in the mid first round QB market. Maybe to get ahead of Arizona or Cleveland.
gmcliff….you are a fraud!!!!! Go to another site and annoy people!
This site is for people who know football and knows the Eagles. You know neither.
gloomysmitty….how can you say Cox didn’t have a good year? He was the best DLman we had. I bet he fits this scheme now that he has had a year to learn how to be a 3-4 DE. Saying he doesn’t fit is like saying that gmcliff isn’t a fit for Burger King bc he doesn’t flip burgers the same way he did at McD’s. After he flips a few thousand burgers he’ll fit just fine at BK.
None of the players on the defense were great last year. They were all drafted or signed for a 4-3 defense but with experience they will fit and adapt.
I’m a mainstay…no split personality GMCliff heckler wantabe will ever run me off where I reign…..Deal with it.
wrong again …Cedric Thornton was our Best Defensive Lineman…Gloomy is correct…..You just didn’t pay attention – no surprise there – or your just a biased natural born idiot……..Fletcher Cox was horrible this past year – Dontari Poe ( a GMCliff Guy) was an obvious better Talent that draft – How many posters have to tell you that before you understand?????
I would argue that Cedric Thornton was there best dlineman last year
He friggin was there is no argument and it wasn’t even close. lol
I am still having trouble understanding how Cedric Thornton is only worth a one year restricted contract of $645,000. Cole and Herremans got early extensions, Peters and Mathis got early extensions. The long snapper got an extension worth more than 645,000. No doubt Cedric Thornton turned down the chump contract offer and is betting on himself that he will earn a massive salary raise as an unrestricted free agent next year. This Cedric Thornton $645,000 one year deal really bothers me. I think they are doing him wrong.
Thornton was a Restricted Free-Agent meaning the Eagles could match any Offer to a Team who made an Offer to Thornton and would retain him.. and if Thorton were to sign with another Club, the Eagles would have gotten a Draft Pick in Return , which bottom line lowers the Value of a Restricted Free-Agent who is still younf and up and coming as opposed to an established Veteran Player since most Teams are unwilling to give up Draft Picks..
If he gets off to a nice Start again in 2014, I believe the Eagles will attempt to lock him up with a lonf term deal so he doesn’t hit Free-Agency next Off-Season and I do agree 100%, that the Eagles should Pay him in that $1.5 Million Range for 2014..
Thornton was good yes I agree but he was single blocked most of the time. He only had 1 sack, wasn’t much of a pass rushing threat. Cox was double teamed most passing situations and had 3 sacks. Cox also stepped inside alot to play DT. Thornton is a DE only. I like Thornton but wouldn’t say he was the best DLman on the team.
The Key for Eagles DL is that the Core on YOUng DL (Cox,Thornton,Logan and Curry) all improve and get strong & Quicker off the ball and blocks..
But they need another DT/NT Type and a Pure Pass-Rusher from the Edge..
Can Curry be this Pass-Rusher… This is make and break season for him
Chad Ocho Alouette-o
Howdy y’all. I see there are a few knowledgable football folk on this site, and some hillbilly jackasses that know nothing.
I used to be a talent evaluator for a “professional” football league and have connections. I am disabled so I can’t do that job anymore but for a site like this I can do my passion and still drink heavily.
I am a gambler so I am willing to challenge anyone of y’all on a mock draft. Come big or go home.
I live in SEC country so that puts me a step ahead of y’all but I saw some of y’all read alot of reports on players. So it will even out as I can’t read good.
Ha Ha GmCliff
Everyone have a Safe, Blessed and Happy Easter..
Out Football Mocks,Player Evaluations with Trade Rumor’s & annoying Alerts will all be back on Monday … Enjoy
That’s not me Paul….That’s E0S, and more of his BS
I told you that’ he, and Iggles were one and the same..
Now add _gmcliff – as he is desperate to discredit me by drawing a wedge between myself, and my homeboy brothers on GCobb with insults like that….
Actually asshole, I live in Delaware – I have a house in Charlotte – I told you before Pay attention……LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m not that clever.
I advised you to judge Igglessb27 by his own merit and you chose to insult and dismiss him.
GMCliff i would never ruin my NFL draft weekend with your presence. You might muck up my pizza with bizarre toppings or have to eat a diabetic friendly pizza alternative with horrible soft drinks requirements, no thanks. I take my pizza Sicilian style with tomatoes and basil; and drink half OJ half iced tea with ice cubes.
I’m the one living in SEC country so yeah Cliff they don’t pay attention, keep doing you Cliff I know your not worried about E0S or 27.
or _gmcliff…..I mean ….WIggles….I mean… E0S
I saw where someone called Igglessb27 offered to pay for your trip to his place for a draft party, how do I get an invite?
I see there are no takers on my challenge, guess I gave you boys to much credit. Oh well I’m sure I can find a womans site with more ballsy people then here. Of course no one living in Delaware or Penna knows much about football evaluating, no real college football in the area.
gmcliff……did you used to gm or is that the initials for your name?
Guess all you Yankees wives yanked the leash and y’all ain’t allowed on after 8pm. Glad I’m the man in my house, smh.
Where in SEC country Biglion821? Kentucky here.
gmcliff….were you trying to send me a post? I see my name in a babbling post. Either you have been drinking or toking the bong but your post makes no sense, lol. Better save some of that 1/5th or that dime bag for tomorrow!
Oh, was that a little above your head????….LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!