Dealing With The Cavaliers For The Top Pick
What It Would Take To Get A Deal Done: The Sixers would likely try to offer Cleveland the third overall pick and Thaddeus Young, but for the team to get something done, I think they have add the tenth overall pick to that package.
The Cavalier organization has made some highly questionable moves over the years, but even they’re smart enough to realize that they’ve got one of the most valuable commodities in the league at the moment, and that if they move out of that selection, they’d absolutely need to receive a satisfying (if not overwhelming) haul in return.
The Sixers could also try to sweeten the deal by including a couple second-rounders, but those aren’t significant enough to make or break any trade that might take place.
Why Cleveland Would Make A Deal: The Cavaliers would make a deal if all along, Joel Embiid has been their guy. They don’t seem to be nearly as high on Andrew Wiggins and Jabari Parker as a lot of teams are. Parker seems to have been their second choice, but his workouts with the team didn’t blow the club away, and the franchise has been even less interested in Wiggins to this point.
Knowing that the Bucks won’t select Embiid at #2, moving down to third and acquiring extra picks from the Sixers along with a nice sweetener in Thaddeus Young makes a lot of sense for the Cavs. They can still get their man with the third pick, they’ll avoid the flack of taking an injured Embiid with the top selection, and pick up additional value that will help them reach their goal of making the playoffs this season.
While Cleveland has also received significant offers from teams like the Magic and Jazz, if they trade down below #3, they can’t be guaranteed a chance to grab Embiid. The Sixers’ pick at third overall offers them a certain security that the fourth and fifth overall picks cannot.
Why Cleveland Wouldn’t Make A Deal: Perhaps the Voice of Reason will come down and whisper into Dan Gilbert’s ear that the best possible thing that his franchise could do right now is play it safe, stand pat, and select either Wiggins or Parker.
When you make a trade in any sport, usually the team that gets the best player is the team that wins the trade.
If I’m running the Cleveland franchise, there’s no way I pass on the opportunity to draft either Wiggins or Parker to roll the dice on an injured big man.
Dealing With The Bucks For The Second Pick
What It Would Take To Get A Deal Done: The Sixers have more options to help get a deal done with the Bucks, and might not necessarily have to part with to first-rounders to move up.
The third overall pick would need to be included, but instead of offering the tenth pick to go with it, Michael Carter-Williams could also be an appealing piece for the Bucks. The Bucks have very little in their backcourt, and adding a guy who just won the Rookie of the Year award would certainly be a nice boost for them.
Milwaukee also has some bad contracts that the Sixers could offer to take on. Milwaukee would love to rid themselves of either Ersan Ilyasova, O.J. Mayo, or Larry Sanders’ expensive deals.
Why Milwaukee Would Make A Deal: The Bucks could get themselves a lot of value from trading down. Sliding down one spot, clearing cap space, and picking up either additional picks or a guy like MCW could really help that franchise a lot.
They have been rumored to be one of the teams that are pretty high on point guard Dante Exum, who could be their pick at #3. Right now, they’ve got very little to work with in their backcourt. Ramon Sessions is a journeyman point guard that is a decent backup, and Brandon Knight is a decent player, but neither of these guys are true difference-makers.
Why Milwaukee Wouldn’t Make A Deal: Just like Cleveland’s situation, the safest thing for the Bucks to do is stand pat and select whoever is left between Wiggins and Parker.
The Bucks have been a team that just hasn’t been exciting for a long time. Adding an electric young talent like either Wiggins or Parker could generate a lot of interest in that franchise.
For 76ers to Trade #3, #10 & Thadd Young for the #1 Overall Pick is assanine
How is 1 Player (19-20 Years old) going to help Turn around a Franchise
that has needs all over it’s Roster and to Trade Guard MCW after having a very promising Rookie Season also makes no sense for then the 76ers would have to start all over at PG with another unproven Rookie…
Best Bet is to build what they did last Season and Add 2-3 Good promising Players to MCW,Noel & Co and add a couple of Veteran Free-Agent’s to round out the Roster…
Paul, its true that no one player alone makes a team a viable contender…but wiggins/parker have the chance to become true franchise players, not just good but great players. The centerpiece, the guy that you build around is the most elusive piece of the puzzle, and when you’re this close to acquiring that piece, I believe you have to go all-in to get it…there are a lot of nice players in the top 10, but none of them have the ceiling of wiggins/parker. You can add pieces like them or better in years to come as you build around the centerpiece. The sixers aren’t trying to win it all in one year, this is a multi year project. Do what you have to do to get your star now, get other pieces later. Without the superstar talent, there’s always a ceiling of how far you can go in this league. As far as I’m concerned, mcw is a nice young talent, but I’m not going to protect him at the expense of missing out on a superior talent
Wiggins/Parker are good Prospects no doubt, but Most don’t see them being “True Franchise Players” like a Durant, LeBron,Kobe, etc,etc so why give that much up for 1 Player when they can sit tight and Drafat 2-3 Solids Players to build the Roster.. Would be a huge mistake and set them back another 2-3 Years in my opinion going all in for 1 Players, whether it’s Wiggins or Parker..
Even though they aren’t the level of prospects that LeBron/Durant were when they came out, I don’t think any top prospects have been even this highly regarded since 2007 when Oden and Durant came out…again, I go back to the fact that it is very difficult to get even this close to drafting an elite prospect, which is why I think its all the more important to go after them now, while the organization has the chance.
Drafting 2-3 solid players is nice, but long-term where does it really get you without the centerpiece? Maybe you build a team of solid guys, and become a nice, fun group, but in the long run that only gets you back in purgatory. Good enough to make the playoffs in one of the bottom four needs, but never great enough to contend…and good enough that the franchise will keep themselves away from the top of the draft for too long. That’s what the Sixers have been at their ceiling over the last 15 years. The only way you really break out of that is with a guy who has chance to evolve into a superstar, that’s why I’m hellbent at this point on putting everything into either Wiggins or Parker.
That being said MCW, and Noel aren’t going to lead us anywhere either, so why not do what you have to do to build a real championship team??
Paul I agree,
Exum could be the steal of this draft.
Pass on EmBiid andhis injury history.
My prediction
Boston: Andrew Wiggins Trade with Cavs
Bucks: Dante Exum
Sixers: Jabari Parker
wishful thinking atra but i assure there is zero chance that parker and wiggins dont go 1 & 2
trading #3 and MCW to the bucks for #2 would be a total ripoff. I would give the bucks #10 and MCW or #10, #32 and thad BUT NEVER MCW and #3.
right Big Mhenski…
FYI Andy Katz has interviewed virtually all of the top prospects and asked them all where they think they will end up and the only 2 that mentioned the 76ers or implied them was Vonleh and Exum
says Exum is extremely confident he goes 2, 3 or 4
says Vonleh predicts he is going to philly at 3 or orlando at 4
wiggins predicted #1 to team up with fellow canadians tristen and bennet
parker predicted #2
my mock draft of the first 5
1st cavs take wiggins
2nd jazz trade #5 and favors and select Parker
3rd sixers take Vonleh
4th Magic take Exum
5th bucks take smart
I am ok with Vonleh at 3.
I never seen him play just my best guess what happens tomorrow based sixers needs and putting together all the talk I’ve read
I could also see sixers trading 10, 32 and Thad to lakers for 7 to get Gordon, embiid, or smart
I like Vonleh alot and would be happy if 76ers grab him at # 3…
How about this 76ers Mock Draft
# 3 – PF Noah Vonleh (Indiana)
#10 – SF Kyle Anderson (UCLA)
Then Trade PG MCW to Phoenix Suns for their #14 Pick and Select
PG Elfird Payton from Louisiana-Lafayette
Starting Line-Up for 2014 76ers
PG – Elfird Payton
SG – Free-Agent Signing
SF – Thad Young (Kyle Anderson off Bench)
PF – Noah Vonleh
Center – Nerlins Noel
dude cmon. you dont trade MCW unless he is getting you #1 or #2 pick or giving you #4 or #5 pick without including #3. and trading him for #14 straight up is completely retarded.
i would much rather have your same lineup but Mcw at the point instead of Payton. also pass on kyle anderson especially at #10.
matter of fact i dont want the sixers to pick anybody passed pick #8. i hope they pick at 3 and again 8 or lower, move up to 1 or 2 or id trade that worthless #10 pick in a heartbeat nobody good is gonna be there….
Seriously that was one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen on here. I have heard and seen so much nonsense in regard to this draft when its should be real simple. Trade the house for #1 and draft Wiggins and call it a day.
People are so crazy about this 10th overall pick as if this is the NFL draft or something. That pick is equivalent to a 5th rounder in the NFL draft. Really were going to give up the shot to draft maybe one of the best young talents coming out in the last decade because of fucking guys like Kyle Anderson or Staukas, or Harris. Give me a damn break. Then lets trade MCW for complete unknowns who could shit the bed completely in the NBA really?? MCW is the best bright spot we have had on the Sixers since drafting Iverson. He is the only bright spot in a decade of misery, in a league where it is the biggest crapshoot in the draft. Now if were trading him for an already NBA great player then lets do it but to trade him for another 1st round pick on a complete unknown is bullshit when like 80 percent of this guys don’t work out esp after the first few picks.
I don’t think Hinkie is that stupid. I think he will/or has already offered 3/10 and any or all other picks in this draft for number 1 overall. The question is whether cleveland thinks that enough.
Sixers aren’t winning shit anytime soon. I would give up every pick in our draft for Wiggins who fits perfectly with this team going forward. What people forget is that we have like 40 million in cap, they think we have to build a team in one year just off of our picks. We can buy role players, shooters you name it. Give me the core of Wiggins, MCW, Nerlens and you got a good start to something special. Stop with the nonsense.
So what if Wiggins doesn’t turn out to be the next Jordan, Kobe, or Lebron. Your talking about maybe the top 3 basketball players ever. Say Wiggins ends up a notch below and finishes his career as a top 50 best player ever…As if those guys in that group didn’t carry teams to championships in their primes. Hey why draft a kid who has potential like that to save that 10# overall pick for guys like Staukas or Kyle Anderson. Give me a fucking break…there is more than a 75% shot these guys at available at 10 aren’t even in the damn league in 5 years let alone any good. You want a shooter, you can buy one easily any summer you want
You spoke truth there Pheags…..
I have said over, and over again that this draft is NOT deep…after a certain point everyone drafted is a bench player for 3-5 years at best, because the majority of them wouldn’t even be considered 1st round picks in past drafts….
great post pheags. although i differ vary on opinion with mcw. i would give up mcw straigh up for picks 1, 2, 4, or 5 as i think there are 5 cant miss pros. i think mcw will be a nice point but not the glue to a team, i see andre miller in him… mcw shined and won roy this season but it was a product of the others in the draft last year, his opportunity with the sixers (ie being given the keys from day 1). bottom line is im not married to him but wouldnt give him away for anything less than a major hall
and I did mean to include a 2015 1st Round Pick from the Suns as well
a Player from their Roster (PG Eric Bledsoe or Center Okafor) for MCW
ad not just for a 14th Pick for that would be ridiculous
if anyone trades MCW (rookie of the year) for the 14th pick, they should be fired on the spot.
Agreed.
Something to keep in mind, if the Sixers record is in the top 16 next year our first round pick goes to the Celtics n it’s not protected. Because of that, I could see the Sixers taking Embiid with the third pick and sitting him out next year just to avoid giving up that pick, it’s said next years draft will be as good as this years.
very good point andrew but i think with the history of this injury you cant take him at 3. u gotta go exum or vonleh. u take either of those guys and the sixers arent gonna be in the top 16 anyways
I wouldn’t have any problem with either of them, if they end up with three picks in the top ten this year as is bring reported who cares about next years? Their has to come a point where they have to use up that money they freed up n get some quality free agents to go along with these kids, it’s not happening this year but I can see some guys being intrigued once they see a season of Noel healthy n this years rookies hopefully looking like players.
I would rather have McDermott or Stauskus at 10. At least those guys can shoot the ball. You say that neither of these guys can play defense at the next level, but Anderson didn’t play defense at the college level.
White guys that can shoot in College do not translate well to the NBA
Kyle Anderson will be an All-Star in the NBA by Year #3 and a perennial
20 Pt Scorer Per Game over his Career
And he will give up 25-30 points to whoever he is guarding that night.
Wow, now you are projecting. He will be a better passer than he is a shooter in the NBA.
He many not even be the first Bruin taken as LaVine could come off he board before him.
Lavine will be a Player but will take 2-3 Years
Kyle Anderson can score from driving, post-up and from outside and can be solid 2nd Team Scorer his 1st 2 Seasons
Word is the only reason MCW did well was he was a bad team and got a lot of opportunities to log a lot of minutes. Someone had to score the ball. His upside isn’t great and hes not aq franchise type player. He is projected to be just a good player. Exum on the other hand has a chance to be a stud, playmaking athletic player. If the Sixers are sitting at #3 and Exum is on the board they may feel MCW is expendable and try to get something for him. This is why the MCW trade talks are alive and well. Im not saying its right or wrong but this is most peoples thinking. Cleveland just brought Exum in for another last minute workout reports say. This could mean they are seriously thinking about taking him or maybe the Sixers have a deal with them to move up to 1 and Cleveland to 3 and they take him there.
great post and agree dagg
im praying it means they got a deal with the sixers but i believe the deals the magic, and utah are offering are better
Im sure if you look at every rookie of the year in the past 10 years, they all played on bad teams that year, logged the minutes, and had shit players around them. I think that argument is BS and is being talked about mostly from media/radio guys that need material to keep their day busy, knowing idiots will buy it. MCW stats weren’t just good among rookies but they were good among the entire NBA.
Again Im not saying I think he is untouchable but damn your going to have to give me something special to give this young kid up who is the best thing to come to the Sixers since Iverson. Its the only thing this organization has gotten right in a decade…and now we should just give him up for a complete unknown who hasn’t played a minute in the NBA.
Im pretty sure every pick in this draft can get us Wiggins, I do it in a heart beat esp with the way the NBA draft works
Pheags how about this. Exum is 4 years younger than MCW with reportedly huge upside. He could work on his shot for the next 3 years and still be a year younger than MCW is now. lol. You take Exum at 3, trade MCW to Lakers for 7 and pick Embid. Then you take Nik Stauskas at 10.
Then you trade Thad Young somewhere in the 14-16 range and draft Dario Saric from Croatia who from my sources is a very very talented player.
This is Sixers lineup in 2015
Exum -PG
Nik Stauskas-SG
Dario Saric- SF
Noel- PF
Embid- C
Sounds good Dag but Saric just signed a 3 Year Deal with his Current Turkish Team and has to fulfill at least the next 2 Years with his Team per International & NBA Rules so he won’t make an appearance in the NBA until 2016-2017 Season at the Earliest..,
Word is that he wants to pkay 30-35 minutes a game ibstead if easing his way in so that he can work on his game and get better, stronger, etc and be ready to go in 2 years time
Another SF I like is TY Warren out of NC State
For a mid-late 1st Round Pick if 76ers can make a Deal
He can put ball on floor, drive to the hoop and shoot from the outside (kind of a poor man’s Jabari Parker) who led the ACC in Scoring for the Wolfpack even though most opponents game planned to defend & stop him. He has a nice upside at the NBA Level In my opinion…
Daggolden Exum could easily be a stud or he could be Leandro Barbosa. Who the hell knows. And I highly doubt Embid will last till pick 7. And I can get a proven white shooter in the NBA any day of the week when I got 40 million in cap to add free agents. Trade the house for Wiggins
I do like MCW as the current and future PG for the 76ers
New Mock
# 3 – PF N Vonleh (Indiana 6-10 240lbs)
#10 – SF K Anderson (UCLA 6-9 230lbs)
#18 – Trade With Phoenix – SG – CJ Wilcox (Washington 6-5 200lbs)
(76ers Send Thadd Young and # 32 Pick to Phoenix)
Rd # 2
#39 – SG – Spencer Dinwiddie (Colorado 6-6 – 200lbs)
#47- Trade to Knicks for 2015 Pick
#52- PF Cory Jefferson (Baylor 6-9 220lbs)
#54 – Center Artem Klimenko (Russia 7-1 230lbs – Stay in Europe for 2 years
After listening to many many basketball people it all seems to come back to Embid. Everyone of them are clamoring about all teams that pass on him will be sorry. This is the one and only stud player in the draft. They keep saying whoever passes on him will regret it 5 years down the line. He is that good. They say the other players will be good but Embid is the game changer.
I don’t think there any Stud Players we’ll be taking about in 15 Years
All of these Top 6-8 Prospects has Flaws
Whether it’s a Defense, Shooting, Turnovers,
Ball Skills, Foul Shooting..
Wiggins & Exum and I believe Vonleh, appear to have the biggest upside but it take 2-3 Years of improving, getting stronger, accepting Coaching and getting in the right system, etc, etc, but there still a lot if good Players in thick Draft..
NY Knicks & Dallas Mavericks with a big
6 Players Deal sending Tyson Chandler & Ray Felton
To the Mavs for 4 Players and 2 2nd Round Picks for New President
Phil Jackson to have some ammo come Draft night plus shed Payroll
In getting rid of Chandler & Felton and with Melo probably signing elsewhere
The Knicks will now be players on Free-Agency
Knicks receive Guard Jose Calderon, Shane Larkin,
center Sal Dalambert & SG Wayne Ellington as well
As the #34th & #51 Picks
All that counts, is what Lil Bron-Bron Jon has to say about the matter. Nothing else is relevant, because his sources are supreme! Sixers, & Genius Hinkie Dinkie will rule the roost! SHOW YA LUV!
>XD
Your new nickname is AM “AngryMan”
The AM has further meaning since when you post its usually in the wee hours of the morning when normal people are sleep and you’re talking to yourself
And calling Sam Hinkie “Hinkie Dinkie” is beyond homo, (no offense to the homos)
If you’re not gay then you shouldn’t say anything like this. Like when Henski called Nick Foles “Big Dick Nick”… Huh?!
Notice your posts have only been directed at me and not the sports teams?
You got it bad bro, females don’t even pay this much attention to me.. sheesh…
Does your wife know about this?
Big dick nick + big balls chip gonna dominate this year.
You are the only delusional fag on here! You got the balls talking about me calling Hinkie, Hinkie Dinkie, when it was meant to be a rip? You forget your gay, pen pal name you called Lebron? You called him on here, well documented, “Bron-Bron for 2 years, thus your nick name, you little tootsie bitch!
Reports that Phil Jackson & Knicks are Offering
Guard Shumpert & #34 Pick to 76ers for
their 10th Pick…
FALSE!!
Stick to NFL mocks and the MLB Paul, you’re getting worse by each post
Two teams to watch in this years NBA Draft are two teams that I mentioned months ago that could really make an impact and that have rich history in the NBA, both the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers.
So other than my beloved Sixers we need to watch the Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers who the league wants to restore back to dominance since that means huge revenue for the league, both teams are in big markets and have a slew of championships.
I said way back that I could see Boston or LA trading up for Embiid or LA trading up for Parker. Watch the bucks too. They need a PG and Rondo could be on the move, the Celts could offer Rondo and their #6 pick to the Bucks for 2nd overall.
So much to watch
Watch other teams??? I thought we were controlling the draft???? Boston or la trading up for embiid???? You told us the cavs were a lock for embiid and sixers a lock for wiggins???? You flop worse than a soccer player.
How are the Lakers going to trade up to 1 or 2 to get Parker? They have he 7th pick and…? They don’t have the ammunition to move up. The only way they get Embid is if he slips to 7. They have no shot at Parker.
Celtics could be a player, but not the Lakers.
I would also include the Knicks as being Active in this Draft
Phil Jackson is going all-in to rebuild the Knicks and is not looking at long-term success for he doesn’t have that kind of time horizon and wants the Knicks to be relevant right from the get go
I also would not be surprised to see the Lakers and Knicks make a deal including Kobe Bryant who has always said, if he were to eve leave the Lakers it would be for Madison Square Garden and obviously have a chance to reunite with Phil Jackson
Lots of activity tonight as well as Free-Agency which starts next week 7/1
I believe Teams like Mavs, Rockets & Bulls will look to add in Free-Agency for they feel they are a player or two from competing .
Tonight I picture jonhart putting the happy song on repeat, dressing head to toe in sixers gear, snapping his fingers and dancing like the cast of foot loose for the entire draft.
He may cry if we don’t get wiggins or exum, he may laugh and smile if we do but one thing is sure the man is gonna dance.
I could also envision his Mom yelling down the basement to turn down the
“76ers Song” that he will be blasting thru his Stereo… Jeez…
I’m hearing that the Sixers are upping their offer to the Cavs for the 1st overall pick.
This could come down to the wire guys
“Hinkie doesn’t lose bidding wars” my source says
Don’t tell me they’re adding mcluvin to the deal!!!
Do the 76ers have a “Fight Song” ?
If they Trade more than their #3 Pick, Thad Yuung and a 2nd Round Pick,
they are stupid for doing so…
The Better Keep #10 or this Draft will be a huge disappointment or lost opportunity
They would be much better off with #3, #10 and a package of Thadd Young with a 2nd Round Pick to get another 1st Round Selection in the 20’s then just coming out with just the #1 Overall Pick… It’s not even close.
Phoenix Suns have 3 1st Round Selections so they will be very active also
Charlotte Bobcats with MJ calling the shots have 2 1st Round Picks
(#9 & #22) and will also be active in this Draft
Dagg exum declined that last minute cavs workout
Word is Exum wants to Orlando or Charlotte
Per sources close to his Dad who played at UNC and is originally from Dudley,NC
***More NBA Trades****
Orlando Magic Sends Guard Aaron Afflalo to the Denver Nuggets for
the 56th Overall Pick and Guard Evan Fournier as they Clear Roster Space
for Draft Pick Exum…
76ers still own this Draft though per Jon Hart…
It could also be for MCW, so the Sixers can draft Exum as well Paul….
Exum’s Dad is calling the Shots and wants nothing to do with Philly
per family’s Sources… He Played in teh NBA back in the 80’s before going to Australia to Play which is where he met his Wife and has remained..
I believe somehow, someway the Sixers end up with Embid and Exum.
Dagg they’ll likely end up with 3-4 lottery picks imo
I see Hinkie making multiple moves. Not just “moves” but smart calculated moves that will have us in a good position now and for the future
We will win every deal he makes..
how are we going to have 3 or 4 lotto picks and still get wiggins?
Paulman, you don’t have a clue! Exums dad sent Brent Brown 36 tapes of his sons games recently, nobody else has any info like that in the NBA, that goes to show you how much respect his dad has for Brown and how much he would love his son to play for him, oh yea I forgot, Brent Brown coaches in Philadelphia.
MCW & Noel are not going anywhere
GM Hinkle will build with these 2 Players..
**76ers Trade Rumors
Charlotte Bobcats send the 76ers # 9 & #22 Picks along with
SG Gerald Henderson & SF Michael Kidd-Gilchrist for the # 3 Overall Pick in which the Bobcats Select Guard A Exum
The 76ers now have the Following Selections in the 1st Round
# 9 – PF Adriean Payne (Mich State)
#10 – SF Rodney Hood (Duke)
#22 – PG Shabazz Napier (U Conn)
Plus the Bobcats # 1 Pick in 2015 Draft…
**Houston Rockers Trade Center Omer Asik to the New Orleans Pelicans for their 2015 1st Round Pick as Rockets continue to clear Cap $$$ t Pursue
Free-Agents Melo & LeBron ..
They are talking to Teams about Guard Jeremy Lin who GM Hinkle is very high on for some damn Reason… Good Grief…
Old news
NEXT
An interesting Dynamic this Draft
All the The Top Contending Teams seem to care very little about the Talent of the this Draft and are making Deals to clear Payroll to pursue the Big-Name Free-Agents which Starts Tuesday 7/1 around the League so Draft Picks and serviceable Veterans can be had from Teams like the Mavs,Bulls,Rockets, etc,etc on the cheap…
Nuggets get Afflalo from the Magic for a pick and Evan Fourmier.
Weren’t the magic rumored to be offering him with the 4th for the #1?
yes and yes
That turned out to be a lot of smoke bugsy. Maybe the Cavs driving up the price for the Sixers
Its looking like the Sixers and Cavs either have a deal for the 1st overall pick in place or are still heavy in discussions but I believe it comes down to what they wanna do
Cavs still want Embiid and Sixers want Wiggins and or Exum 1a.
Sixers also like Marcus Smart who is a killer on the court, plays a lot like Russell Westbrook but with more control..
I wouldnt mind if the Sixers acquired another pick somewhere between 6-9 and took him. Hard to pass up a player like him..
Remember what a source said “Hinkie doesn’t lose bidding wars”
well according to this he is bidding, so lets see if that source is full of shit or not in 5 or 6 hours
The 76ers are reportedly in a “full court press” to acquire number 1 overall pick with their eyes on Andrew Wiggins.
Wiggins was Philadelphia’s primary target from early on in the draft process. At one point it seemed he would fall into their laps with the third pick, but after news of Joel Embiid’s foot injury, the 76ers may be forced to trade up if they want to get him.
Source: Bob Cooney on Twitter
Jun 26 – 2:11 PM
would be a huge mistake to give up multiple Picks to go from #3 to #1
for Wiggins and will set this Franchise back another 2-3 Years
76ers need QUality Players by the number and need to obtain as many 1st Round Selections as Possible…
To give up a #3,#10, a 2nd Rounder & Thadd for Wiggins is simply assanine and not using the leverage and opportunities that have right now going into the Draft..
10000000% completely disagree paulman. i would give up our entire draft this year and thad for #1 and take parker 1st but wouldnt complain about wiggins.
there is nobody in this draft at 10 or later that is a lock to help this team long term NOBODY. sixers have a ton of money and can fill their roster with free agents. or just do what they did last year and fill it with nobody/walk on types and do this again next year. stauskus, buckets, young, payne, whoever u get at 10 isnt helping u long term…
ill take building blocks of
mcw
wiggins
Noel
over
MCW
Exum
Stauskus
Noel
Marcus Smart is no Russell Westbrook and not even a close comparison
Check out the Tapes .. Mid-late 2nd Round Rated Guard DeAndre Kane from Iowa State too Smart to School in head to head match-up..
You obviously haven’t watched him. That’s right you don’t watch basketball remember?
Youre speaking on something you know nothing about
His game is very similar to Westbrooks, infact id say Smart is a better defender, stronger and plays with more control
You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about so just shut up paul
Such a bandwagon fraud bro
Go back to the Eagles and Phillies articles. Youre not a true fan of the Sixers so cut the bull crap already.. damn
I watch a lot of College B-Ball JH,
Marcus Smart is a Talented Player with an immature attitude and plays very poorly when physically challenged which he will see in the NBA on a nightly basis .. He’s probably is the most Overrated Player in this Draft next to Ty Ennis of Syracuse who should have stayed at Syracuse ..
Marcus Smart is underrated.. Shows how much you know.
pg Payton has moved ahead of him on some new mocks
Most young guys his age are immature…your old so whats your excuse?
Hes usually the aggressor on the court, hes usually the one that displays a high level of physicality, he has heart and guts
I think you’re basing your opinions of him from the pushing incident
Come to think of it, was that you who he pushed or?!
LaVine is a closer player to Westbrook. Quick, athletic slasher who is a great leaper and athlete.
watched lavine play a bunch and came away unimpressed every single time
I don’t like him at all either..he’s a 2-3 Year Project at best ..
Lots of better all-around Guards out there than Lavine who should have stayed in School next Year and then could have been a Top Lottery Pick with playing a full schedule and improving at the College Level..
I agree but coming out of college they are describing him very similarly to Westbrook.
See LaVine Turrnover % and his Poor Defense . He has great Physical Tools but has not developed a High-Basketball IQ yet and really faded the last 4-6 Weeks of Last Season ..
The big issue at the NBA level is that most Coach’s are not going to play Players who take poor Shots, Turn the Ball over and don’t defend well and you can’t improve and get better by sitting on the bench for as little as they Practice once the Season Starts.. He would have been much better off play 30 Minutes + a game for another Season at UCLA against good Competition.. Instead he will ride the pine, but I guess you could say that with about 1/2 the players in this Draft who came out a Year too Soon, Lavine, Ennis, Hood, Anderson, Warren, Asron Gordon, Stauskus and on and on and on…
Of course he should have stayed in school, but if you were going to get drafted in the 1st round would you?
He would have flourished without Anderson there, because he needed the ball more.
Let me be clear that I don’t want LaVine here. My point yesterday is that I think that he will get drafted before Anderson because he is an athletic freak and not because he is a better basketball player. I also think that 10 is way too high for Anderson. If they had a pick at 15-20, then that would be a good spot for him.
WOW
The Cavaliers are reportedly asking for the third, 10th, and 32nd overall picks from the 76ers in exchange for the No. 1 overall selection.
The 76ers are trying to pry the top overall pick away from the Cavaliers so that they can select Andrew Wiggins. The reported asking price from Cleveland is both of the 76ers’ first-round selections, and their top second-round selection as well. It is a steep price for the top pick, but one the 76ers may consider if they believe Wiggins is a potential superstar player.
Source: Tom Moore on Twitter
I WOULD HAVE DONE THIS YESTERDAY
No way do I do this Deal..
Wiggins and or Parker are not going to make that much of a Difference than adding 3 Quality Players (#3, #10 & 32) to a Team that only has 4 NBA Quality Players on it to begin with…
Going All-In when your 28 Win Team is Ludicrous and still does not progress the Franchise quick enough to be competitive
The 76ers need NBA Bodies and lots of them not just a 19-20 Year Old Kid…
Do you really think that Wiggins/Parker are substantially better then the 20-30 Players behind them.. That they alone can carry a Franchise to new Heights… I don’t and don’t even think it’s close that these 2 are “Franchise Type Players.. The Margin over the next 20-25 Prospects is minimal in my opinion
going all in is not drafting a 19 year old paulman. going all in for wiggins or parker is going all in to get yourself building blocks for the future. a shit team like us doesnt need depth we need starters. STARTERS NOT DEPTH BRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its only the 10 and 32 you cant count the 3 they are picking #1 then.
And honestly they have 5 2nd round picks and can move back up anyway so in reality the Sixers would only be giving up the 10th pick to move up to get Wiggens. I heard they had to throw in Thad Young to.
If the Sixers make that deal for the 1st overall pick, giving up 3rd 10th and 32nd, this draft quickly turns into the Cleveland Cavaliers show instead of the Sixers..
What I do know and have said it on here already, the Sixers have deals in place throughout this draft, they’ve spoken to every top 10 team and every team in this draft for that matter
They have every scenario played out depending on who takes who or who trades for who..
If they keep their picks, I’ll say it again, they can potentially control this entire draft, rounds 1 & 2.
#2HoursAway
The Cav’s Control this Draft for they have #1 Pick as most have said all along, plus they have some Players who they can Trade like a Kyrie Irving, T Thompson, A Bennett, D Waiters which is more than the 76ers can trade (only MCW or Thadd Young have Value) so it’s been the Cav’s all along who control this Draft and not the 76ers
All deals are off it looks like the Sixers really want Wiggens and are willing to trade all there picks. lol
If the Sixers can get away with trading the 10th pick and 32nd to move up to get Wiggens I would do it. But then they have to move Thaddeus Young and try to get back in the top 15.
Thadd Young alone will not bring a Top # 15 Pick Dag..
The Best Case is Thadd Young & # 32 Pick to move to around the #18-#22 Range.. The #32 Pick is a valuable one almost at the start of the 2nd Round
76ers need to use this Pick with Thadd to jump back into the 1st Round
Dei Lynam just reported the Sixers r giving up 3,10 n 32 to move to 1 for Wiggins
They are allegedly trying to move up. Noone has said the deal is confirmed Andrew
I heard the same Andrew. Hopefully the cavs say yes.
I don’t know Hart, I’m torn if that’s true, is he worth it? Does Himkie have other moves up his sleeve to get another pick in the top ten? I say if he’s a franchise player then go for it, I do believe he would b exciting to watch n would love to see him here in this O that Brown runs, the more I think of it the more I’m liking it, guess what, go for it! I trust Hinkie n believe he’s gonna walk out if this draft with two starters.
IMO it’s worth it. Ur getting nobodies at 10 and 32. And wiggins or Parker are wayyyy better then what’s left at 3 ( embiid is off my board at #3). U can get somebody better at in free agency then u would at 10 and 32… Not to mention you got kids in wroten Noel mcw and wiggins or Parker u don’t want another kid to start (10 pick)…
I agree! I’m all for it! But you can believe a trade will be made and we will walk out of this draft with two lottery picks.
Ss the 76ers get Wiggins or Parker and then still need to get 8 More NBA Quality Players to fill out their Roster and can go from 25 Wins to 30 Wins.. At this Pace of adding 1 Good Player a Draft, they should be competitive by 2019… Oh and I forgot, what happens if a MCW or Noel or their 1 Draft Pick (Wiggins or Parker) were to get injured…
This Team is a half Dozen Players away, so stock them up and Coach them up while you have a Chance to in the deepest Draft in Years instead of adding a bunch of other Teams overpaid garbage for the short-term
I’d Sit at #3 and Select Embiid or Exum , then take another Good Player at #10
then Package Thadd & # 32 to move back into the Mid/Late 1st Round and then use these 3 Draft Picks to work with and build MCW, Noel, Wroten and add 2-3 Veteran Free-Agents and continue to build from there..
#1HourAway #DraftDay
Look out for the wackiest draft in NBA history
This I can agree with you JH 100% ..
This should be a real doozy with lots of Surprises and Trades and the most exciting Draft in Years … I am heading out to my local Favorite Sports Bar to watch and have some Wings and Cold Stella’s
Nothing too wacky at this point?
Dei Lynum just reported that talks have just broken down between Cleveland and the Sixers. Stay tuned.
Yeah..
Dei Lynam just reported that a report from yahoo said the deal with Cleveland is dead! Cleveland has decided to keep the pick and pick either Wiggins or Parker.
Maybe the Cavs will take Embiid after all allowing Wiggins/Parker to fall to #3
If Embiid goes # 1 and Wiggins goes #2,
then I hope the 76ers take Vonleh at #3 or Trade back a spot or 2 for more Assets…
Dagg, looks like we’re both watching Comcast sports net lol
Yeah lol
The 76ers invited Julius Randle and Noah Vonleh to a workout Thursday morning.
It’s unclear if either accepted, but it would have been a surprise to see either do so. Randle turned down a workout with the Celtics on Wednesday, so there’s really no way he’d go for it after he said he’s “done enough.” As for Vonleh, he is climbing up draft boards and is almost a lock to go in the top five.
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Source: Keith Pompey on Twitter Jun 26 – 5:52 PM
I say we go for Exum if we can’t get the number one, get a shooter with ten and see what u can get for Thad, if MCW is part of it then so be it, I can live with a backcourt of Exum n Smart plus a shooter at ten
Top #5
Wiggins
Parker
Exum
Embiid
Vonleh
Not sure which Team is getting what Player
I would pass on Wiggins simply for his lack of fashion..
Like Defense Attorney Johnnie Cochran
Once stated, “If you can’t Dress, You can’t Play”
I agree Paul. Dude looks like a clown
The kid is 19, give him a break lol
Golden girls collection
Theirs a ton of people saying we’d b crazy to pass on Embiid at three, they said Jordan n Kevin Mcale also had that injury besides Ming n Walton, we’ll see.
Meet me at PJ’S on broad, after that chickies and petes!
TWIN TOWERS BABY!!!
“TWIN TOWERS BABY!!!”
Yeah, now that all your stupid slurping of Wiggins coming here at all costs was wrong, as of now, your all of a sudden on board with a guy, who is already injury plagued, & won’t play at all this season! Now what do they do, play 2 big injury plagued question together, who have zero offensive capabilities. Don’t give me the BS Olajuwon comparisons either!! GTFOH, you retarded fraud, & take your dork, fake, genius Hinkie with you! OWNING THE DRAFT BAAAAABY! YOU YA LUV!!!!
Embiid!!!! I have no problem with it, lets go Sixers!!!!
Me either Andrew, twin towers man
This team will be a force, we may win a championship sooner than I thought
They’re building inside out
Next pick may be a PF.. Possibly Noah Vonleh if he falls
No nevermind, theyre not going Vonleh unless they plan on trading Noel
I’m good with Embiid at #3
Now get a shooter at #10
And Trade some 2nd Rd Picks & Thadd Young
To get another mid-late 1st Rounder..
Vonleh or Mcdermott
Take best player and that is vonleh
Embid doesn’t sit all year. Reports are its a 4-6 month injury. My math tells me he should be ready to go in November or December. If he is healed and cleared to play he should play. There is no reason for him to sit an extra 3-4 months.
If they don’t make any trades, this draft was a joke!!!!! What a waste & disappointment. Wiggins, Parker, Randle & Vonleh were only studs, now we have more of the same BS!
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS POST YOU BUM
You cry and whine like a baby wah wah wah after every draft, “this draft sucks” blah blah blah
Go suck your thumb in a corner and shut up porter
Where you gonna be at Chickies? Let me know, I’m coming to say hello, you little bitch! Don’t bitch out now! You have alot of mouth over the internet, lets see the little girl you are!
I don’t think you wanna do that buddy, it wont be your night
Where you gonna be bitch? Answer the question! You threatened me the other night, sooooo? And you better be there, because I’m going to post that you are a bitch!
I would rather have Vonleh than Noel.