Peter King reports that former Eagles head coach and now Kansas City Chiefs head coach Andy Reid influenced Tennessee Titans head coach Ken Whisenhunt not to make a deal with at the Eagles to trade the second pick in the draft.
Reid recounted to Whisenhunt about his decision to refuse an offer from Mike Ditka, who was coaching the New Orleans Saints at the time, and offering his entire draft for the second pick in 1999, so he could move up and get running back Ricky Williams. Of course, Reid had his eyes on Donovan McNabb and knew if he didn’t get a franchise quarterback on the roster, his time with the Eagles was going to be short and very disappointing.
“I was talking to Andy today,’’ Whisenhunt told King on Thursday night. “He told me the story about Ditka offering a whole draft for his [Reid’s] pick. I understood what Andy was saying. It certainly helped solidify what I was thinking—that’s for sure.”
Reid didn’t tell Whisenhunt about that entire draft. There were five quarterback prospects that were all talked about before that draft. It was Tim Couch, who went first to Cleveland, then Donovan McNabb, who Reid selected with the second pick. Cincinnati grabbed Akili Smith with the 3rd pick. Daunte Culpepper was scooped up by Minnesota with the 11th pick and Cade Mcnown was selected by Chicago with the 13th pick.
Couch, Smith and Mcnown was all complete busts and they got a number of coaches fired. McNabb and Culpepper lived up to the hype.
Ian Rappaport of NFL Network says the Eagles had put two first round draft picks along with Fletcher Cox, Mychal Kendricks, Sam Bradford, Brandon Boykin and Evan Mathis on the trading block in an effort to move up for Marcus Mariota.
Personally, I don’t think Mariota fits into Whisenhunt’s system and it’s going to take a while for the youngster to learn the new system. Whisenhunt has been successful with pocket passers like Ben Roethlisberger and Kurt Warner. He has been very clear about believing Zach Mettenberger , a classic pocket passer was going to be a star quarterback in this league.
I think Mariota is going to struggle in Tennessee because it’s going to take him a while to become a pocket passer and he won’t have a lot of talented targets in Nashville. I could see a reunion of Mariota and Chip Kelly at a later date in his career.
The difference is Mariota is no McNabb.
Agreed. I think Mariota had an opportunity to surpass McNabb had he been drafted by Chip, but I don’t think he’ll be successful in Tennessee. I don’t expect much from any of the QBs in this draft.
Winston is going to be good in Tampa…not immediately…he’s going to have growing pains…Mariota is going to suffer in Tennessee…no offensive line and he has never taken snaps from center…how they expect him to start in that offense from Day one is ridiculous..
Winston is overrated garbage
April of his rookie season… Only time will allow you to make that statement.
Could be taken two ways, ‘he’s no mcnabb because he ends up winning a couple of Lombardis’ or ‘he’s no mcnabb because after 5 years in the league he is only 18-30″…. Oh wait those numbers sound so freaking familiar!
I WOULD LOVE TO HOCK A HUGE LUGER AND SPIT IT RIGHT IN THAT FAT FUCKS EYE SOCKET
be careful and watch out for the hypodermic needles at that drug emporium home of his
Titans called Marcus Mariota day 1 starter, wonder if Zach Mettenberger requested a trade after hearing that?
Zac Stacey requested a trade out of St. Louis after the Todd Gurley #10 first round selection.
mettenburger is a scrub
He’s OK.
And you win with okay if you put studs around him.
Mariota would be a day 1 starter if he were here.
Otherwise he’s looking at being a bust in a more pro-style system. Do I think he has the skills to make the adjustment….yes…but it would take time…time they could use to smooth out Zack’s rough edges or another QB fit for the more pro-style offense Wisenhunt wants.
Dumb on Tenn I think.
I agree 100% TSJ and that was probably the stupiest thing that the Titans could say publicly… Mariota is going to Flop Big Time in Tennessee
Chip Kelly can sign him once he hits Free-Agency in 2018 if Chip is even still Coaching in the NFL
Unless they plan of replacing Wisenhunt with Mark Helfrich after this season.
Wisenhut’s & GM are tied to the hip in Nashville
Who is under a new Ownership Team since the old man died last year
There is no real Leader in that Position right now..
Sam Bradford’s Agent is still wanting to be Traded to a Team and City that wants him… Still No Takers yet…Eagles will probably have to wait until to Summer Camp and see if any Teams incur Injuries at the QB position
Does anyone think in their right mind that Bradford is going to want an extension to lower his Cap hit for 2015 — F’ No …
Kelly got Schooled Again
Yep
Not at all Paulman! Bradford wants to stay right here cause of shurmur, he knows his best year was with him n he knows with him he can extend his career n get another contract if he stays healthy, the kid isn’t stupid.
I cant wait until the season and Bradford is doing very well, running the offense efficiently, not turning the ball over making accurate passes both short and deep..I’m going to roast the hell out of you naysayers crying over Nick Foles…
Bradford is not Mentally Strong enough to withstand the Pressure and Scrutiny of Playing in Philadelphia…
As I have stated many times, I have no problem with Foles being gone as many of us were expected him to move on due to his lack of mobility but don’t tell me that Bradford with 2 ACL’s is quicker, smarter, more accurate for he hasn’t played a Full Season in almost 3 Years ago and is in no way an upgrade…
Bradford having a Comfort level with OC Pat Shurmur, which is reasonable to understand, but this 2015 and that 2010 Season was a long,long time ago in Football Years for Sam Bradford and before the Injuries came piling on..
Go Mark Sanchez ….. Good Grief…
You have this knowledge of Bradford make up because of your intense study while getting your license to operate a psychiatrists office? On wait you operate without a license
That’s been All Cleared up HAC, but Thank you for caring..
LOL low blow cigar.
paulman…Foles is gone because Bradford with 2ACL’s is smarter, more accurate, with a quicker release and stronger arm.
He was the best option available for us……Foles was not dumped by Kelly because of his lack of mobility.
Kelly has been open and honest on this…he got rid of Foles because of all of those open receivers he missed, his mental slowness, his turnovers…what he knows about Bradford is that the guy is a smarter and more accurate QB
When you are a pocket QB and you struggle to make simple reads, struggle against zone defenses…cant process quick enough mentally…you are simply a poor fit for a Chip Kelly’s offense that requires quick decisions and getting rid of the ball quickly..
and Bradford will not ready until late July/Early August and hasn’t played competitive Football in almost 2 Years and will be asked to run a high-paced Offense with new Players that he’s never played with…
Mark Sanchez will be the Opening Day QB for 2015
Bradford is a $13 Million Bum… Another
the chipper said Bradford was cleared by the doctor yesterday and Tebow was signed because Kinne is trying to make the team as a non
QB.
I think you are all blowing the Bradford thing up a bit. Shurmur wants him here. MM was a reach.. and they tried. I think they are happy to give him the starting spot.
Stevo I said the same exact thing simultaneously on another thread. MM was due diligence … Let’s take a look. I bet the talks were not as hot and heavy as the media made it out. They have an awful lot of air time to kill. Even the mcshays of the world toned it down by about 730 saying titans are taking him.
A lot of the ‘sources’ for these reports were agents…agents who are not above being a bit careless with the truth to look out for their clients…
If I was Bradford’s agent and I’m trying to get another megadeal for my client…I would have done everything I can to stop the Mariota deal..lies, rumors, exaggerated claims…all of that is fair game during the draft.
Chip has done a good job…and now that Howie’s out of the way…I think he will get players who fits what he wants to do…
Agreed! Like getting rid of DJAX!
2015 will be Sam Bradford’s Final Season in the NFL..
He will have earned $75 Million in his 5 Years in the NFL as the #1 Overall Pick in the 2010…
He has been a Bust and Underachiever, Plain and Simple…
And No I have Zippo confidence in Sam Bradford ..
Worst offseason ever smh
One of the best oftseasons in Eagles history
1 Step Forward – 2 Steps Back…
Eagles need to come away with 2-3 Good Players tonight
Rd 2 – Safety Adrian Amos (Penn State 6-0 218lbs)
Rd 3 – OL Mitch Morse (Missouri 6-5 307lbs)
Rd 3 – WR Chris Conley (Georgia 6-2 213lbs)
(Eagles Trade LB Kendricks for a 3rd Round Pick tonight)
What happens if chip is right…this specific profile make up that he is into? What if because of it all the guys he gets fit his idea of what a player should be?
Conley would be a good pick up, he with Agholor, Huff and Mathews would be a good wr corps.
That would be a very good WR Corps for years to come
2 Big Targets in Conley & Matthews and 2 Tough, strong, athletic Receiver in Huff & Agholor to go along with Ertz/Celek and then Backs Matthews/Sproles out of the Backfield
Eagles would have 4 Young, Hungry WR’s who would all be on their Rookie Deals for the next few Seasons freeing up $$$ to adress other areas on the Team… (OL,QB,Secondary)
Not even close.
2nd round target will be a cornerback.
then
3rd round OL .
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hope there isn’t a run on DB early in 2nd round.
With all the WR’s taken in the 1st Round and few that will probably go early in the 2nd, a Run of CB/Safety is waiting to happen right around 40, followed by the LB & OL will then follow afterwards
A bum and an underachiever Paulman? How could u say that? Yes he hasn’t achieved what most experts thought he would, but the dude has had some straight up bad luck. 2 Acl tears is bad enough, but being on a team where he had multiples offensive coordinators and head coaches doesn’t help. Being on a team where your number one reciever (Amendola) is hurt more than he was doesn’t help. Tavon Austin went down.. I mean shit his best wr was Brandon Gibson who we drafted lmao!! These are the facts,during his time in stl his team led the nfl in drops multiple years and he was te most hurried and most sacked/hit QB in the league. Maybe not number one every year but top 3. To top it off he never had a running game to shout about either or great defense. Put Andrew luck in St. Louis with this all occurring and not even he can save them. Now he has a team where his old college coach is a head coach that will play to his strength and a 3 headed rb monster with tight ends and recieving corp that is decent an young and promising. Him having a defense tht forces turnovers and sacks and is only getting better is the icing on the fuxking cake. And us having the best special teams is the sprinkles. Give the dude a chance. Just ONE legit chance. I’m not saying he’s gonna lead us to the promise land and throw 35 tds or some shit.. Idk what’s gonna happen. But anyone who says the dude can’t play doesn’t kno shit. He’s running the same system he did in college and has his rb he played with in school as well behind him
I have no problem with agholor as a player and would be a great pick if we had a qb that’s why “charles kelly” should’ve upgraded the D not the wr Corp
I wonder if the eagles should take a chance on randy Gregory….. if I’m the eagles I take og in rds 2&3
Have you been paying attention? Apparently he is slipping because GMs don’t think he has the mental capacity or emotional capacity to play nfl football
He is slipping because of his bad decision making as it relates to marijuana use. Just like Ray, and DGB and countless others have in the past. It has nothing to do with mental or emotional capacity to play football. Stop making shit up as if you know what you are talking about..you don’t.. Have No Clue
Jesus ehl you are all over hac today
Gregory? The edge rusher from Nebraska? Pft maybe 4 days ago. Emotional make up etc
I saw the report, no team is going to pass on a player for a mood disorder that is so common they prescribe meds for it like they are giving away candy on Halloween. There are tons of players with scripts for disorders, news does not make headlines because it is no big deal, plus you can not discriminate against them job wise due to the ADA!
Oh you saw the article? So I didn’t make it up? Which is it? Either you saw the same article or I made it up?
He is not falling because of the mood disorder which you stated…he is falling because of the mj use and a knee issue.
haveablunt, you would know all about diminished mental and emotional capacities due to heavy blunt smoking! Of all people, you should empathize with the kid…
Well cigar they threw away a 2nd Rd pick to the rams for Bradford might as well throw away another it might work out for them
I would definitely take a flyer on Gregory. The Kid is a beast. And Brandon graham clearly is not.
I read he can’t play the run at all. No thabks
mh..I watched Gregory for 2 years, he can play the run. He has an issue with maintaining his weight, that is where a good nutrition and strength and conditioning program would benefit him.
ESPN NFL Insider Jon Gruden says that game film shows Nebraska edge rusher Randy Gregory can’t stop the run and reminds us that “Melvin Gordon ran for 400 yards against Nebraska when Gregory was on the field.”
“This bothers me when you are taking a guy in the top 10 or in the first round who gets stuck on blocks,” Gruden wrote. “If I am coaching against Gregory, I want to tell our quarterback to stop the game, audible to 96 stretch, and run it right at No. 4 and see whether he can stop it.” It isn’t just Gregory’s run defense that concerns Gruden. The analyst is also a little spooked by the failed drug test at the combine, his checkered collegiate career (committed to Purdue and had to go the JUCO route due to ineligibility) and struggled with injuries at Nebraska. Apr 29 – 2:21 PM
Source: ESPN Insider
My only concern with Gregory is his weight, which plays a role in run stopping, his issue is shedding the block, as I said, conditioning and strength will solve that. To much talent and to high of a ceiling to worry about that.
‘He can play the run at 5:56 and struggles with it at 7:27….
Oh and Nebraska doesn’t have a strength and conditioning program? Silly!
You do know that as he ages his body will fill in and get stronger with a strength and conditioning program…it is called physical maturation. A simple projection. Duh!
Yup….I just stated I saw something about it. You said I made it up…I did see something you are bi polar or stupid… Oh didn’t get bi polar meds today.. Got it
I am doing my best HAC impersonation I guess you recognize yourself.. Once again, you have no clue as to what BPD is or looks like havenoclue.
I’m sorry… It took me awhile to remember you actually do suffer from it..I now know why you made that stuff up about me making stuff up.
Yeah..keep telling yourself that, you will believe it one day.
Taking a while to remember things huh…senility setting in!
Hey man I’m sorry, I was not making fun of mental illness …I truly forgot. I was just saying I saw something about him having mental health issues, you defended him and said I made it up. I reacted without thinking of your situation. Accept my sincere apologies. I will be more sensitive in the future.
You’re corny, senility is obviously creeping in as you are recognizing it yourself.
Top questions asked to you:
Do you remember your name?
Do you remember you age/birth date?
Do you remember your address?
Is there someone we can contact?
Please remember to change your depends!!!
All that because I had forgotten that an anonymous guy on a blog is nuts…
And you are a senile nut!
Sorry bro, senility is probably 30 years away.. I do apologize , I don’t want to make fun of mental illness.
No, you are senile! And you clearly have issues that are a result of your senility. Anyway, tired of busting your shriveled up stones. Get your warm milk and go to bed gramps.
I’m heading out to the local bar…good luck
Drinking is not going to help you solve your problems, it will only increase them.
Check PFT
Wait a football player with mental issues? Holy shit never thought that’d be possible. Although I must admit he does look like he used to eat paint chips.
2nd Round is underway
Giants trade up with Titans to #33 to Select Safety Landon Collins
Redskins select at #38 and take DE Preston Smith (6-5 279lbs)
Another great pick for the Redskins as they are beefing up along the OL & DL
Bears will take DT Eddie Goldman
Titans on the Clock and will take OT TJ Clemmings or WR Jalen Strong
Surprise – Panthers trade with Rams and move up from #57 to #41
OT TJ Clemmings or OT Jake Fisher or DE Danielle Hunter
Or RB T Coleman or DE Odighizuwa or WR Sammie Coates
Wow. WR Devin Funchess added to Kelvin Benjamin for the Panthers
To go along with WR Boykin, Ted Ginn & Philly Brown
Somebody help chip make a trade this shit is embarrassing
Eagles have traded up to 47…guessing Fisher…only because he’s a duck.
Absolutely
Eagles trade up to get #47 pick
Eagles are drafting C B Eric Rowe
Yes, I am hearing Eric Rowe, not a fan. Another Pac12 guy.
You don’t like Rowe do you EHL? Do you think he’s a day 1 starter?
Watching him play two times this past year at corner, I was not impressed. I never saw him play at safety. At corner I did not see anything special, reminded me of Cary Williams from a skill and physical stand point.
I hope I am wrong and he can cover his ass off, I just did not see it when I watched him.
He is a press cover..He’s physical…he’s got man on man coverage skills
its a sound pick!
Kool, I have watched him play, you are reciting what you have read and or heard. I know who he is as far as his skills are concerned.
look at the Michigan -Utah game and watch him go up against Devin Funchess
I saw the game as I am a Michigan fan. Devin Funchess is a TE and the QB was god awful. Please do not use that as a measuring stick. As I said, I hope I am wrong, I just have not seen anything to get excited about as far as ball skills etc.
He will most likely be moved to safety
Hart, you think this is Rowe is being selected as a safety?
He’ll start out at CB, see how he does but I think hes a natural safety that can play CB..
They’re gonna move him all over the place all over the field imo
I would think OT Fisher but could be CB E Rowe or even Randy Gregory
pac-12
PAC 12 and quality person…
Whoa!!!! Great move…Eric Rowe CB…tall…great cover skills….excellent, excellent move!!
Eric Rowe. Love it!!
Great Pick!!
any one watch Utah games? Is this guy any good?
He’s very good, long arms, great reach, good ball skills and Is not afraid of contact.. Has the quickness to play inside or outside..
He reminds me a little like a young Anquan Talib…
Eagles gave up both 5th round picks for move up, they get Dolphins 6th.
expensive
Good pick y not wait that was dumb
Eagles gave up 145 & 153 in the 5th Round and got Miami’s 191st Pick
the Chipper said they use a computer which does the new collective bargaining draft value calculations and the computers delivers a plus numeric value or a negative value to the trade proposal. ( Chip Kelly is no Rich Kotite that is for sure)
I think Rowe may stay outside as CB paired opposite of Maxwell
Thurmond the Nickel Back
Safety’s M Jenkins and. J. Watkins with J Coupling as Backup
Got another day one starter, so far Chip gets high marks as a GM
Just like you can’t rip him yet you can’t say two day one starters yet.
The first two picks fit needs are supposed good value and players. I wonder if they gamble on s Gregory or a Clemmings.
My Seminoles are representing ya heard me.
Anyone who thinks chip does not have a plan is not paying attention. His plan is getting clearer…high character, certain un negotiable measurables…you, me or whomever that disagrees he doesn’t care. People who say he is going by the seat of his pants are stuck in a different era…
Maybe we can get a 5th rder for boykin…,
Boy the Browns are having a nice Draft so far…
Added OLB Nate Orchard
I am trying to stay away from coverage and web sites…has a third qb been taken?
No QB has been taken in Round #2
About 10 Picks left in Round 2
I think Rowes a lock for safety but if they start him at CB that means Chip will go Watkins at Safety.
Boykins can’t be long for these parts….
5-6 Players so far, and still have TE, CB PJ Williams and RB Karlos Williams
Boykins probably moved to get a 5th Round Pick back…
Filling up spots…getting it done…next up…a good offensive lineman..
No reaches…good solid picks
No whiffs..
Who’s next? Gotta go oline right?
Still some nice ol prospects left.. could see it possibly being a cb as well
Maybe S Adrian Amos, G Tre Jackson or WR Chris Conley.
According draft pick value chart, the Eagles gave up 442.5 points to Dolphins in Eric Rowe trade, received 445 back, who said Chips inexperience would get him robbed by other teams? Chips the GM is doing a great job so far!
Damn, Randy Gregory just got taken by the cowgirls. If he gets his self together he will be terrorizing the NFC East.
He will fit in perfectly. Fits their profile
They fit your profile too..you have some issues you need assistance with. You just have not acknowledged it yet so getting you help is not an option at this point in time. Crack pot.
I see the imbalance has gone into affect
Dallas Bandits
Damn I was hoping we got Marpet with our next pick
I see chip getting that kid Amos from penn state, I think he wants Rowe at corner, it’s either him or O lineman
I wouldn’t Amos with the next pick
Here goes the OL off the Boards
Wouldn’t mind
EHL, weirder says teams concerned about Gregory’s mental state… Senile I guess
I am concerned about your mental state…I thought you were going to the bar…or did you forget you were going. Senile..yes you are. FYI, the claims are not substantiated. You know there are a lot of players in sports with mental concerns right? I guess not.
Weirder, that name describes you to a tee!
I know it’s a personal issue but please acknowledge that I didn’t make it up…until then conversation over..
Lol, you act as if I hurt your feelings. I am just a guy on the internet, what I say or think should mean nothing to you. Lmao at you as you sound scorned. OK HAC, I went on there and saw it. You did not make up the report. absolution is yours. Now back to your warm milk.
Great.
Lol, a real man can admit his faults and when he is wrong.
As I said I apologize for inadvertently taking a shot at your mental illness. I really just wanted to say that teams were concerned with Gregory mental state… That’s all I said…you came to his defense ( I understand why) but you said I made it up… I didn’t …drop it EHL…move on
No need to apologize for saying something that has no merit. I just see it as your blind ignorance. Senility brings that. I wish you well. I see you never made it to the bar, you probably forgot how to get there, if you remembered you were going.