Eagles fans continue to ask the question throughout the Delaware Valley. Should the Eagles franchise Sam Bradford for $19 to $20 million dollars or sign him to a four or five-year contract in the $100 million dollar range? Here’s where Eagles GM Howie Roseman could step in and exhibit his value to the franchise.
I want to see the Eagles sign Bradford to an incentive-based contract for three or four years with a base salary of $15 or $16 million dollars a year with the opportunity for him to make over $20 million a year, if he leads the team to the playoffs. I would also want to tie the money to how much he plays, so if he gets hurt and misses most of the season, the Eagles won’t be stuck in a contract that has them paying him for accomplishments which he has never done on the NFL level.
I think it’s going to be difficult to get him to sign an incentive-heavy contract like the one I talked about, because there’s not a lot of quarterbacks available in free agency, so he’s going to get much more money if he goes the free agent route. Bradford might be the best quarterback with the best combination of ability and accomplishment currently becoming a free agent, except for the Redskins, Kirk Cousins.
Bradford had some decent statistics last season, but much of the yardage he accumulated was done in garbage time, with the opposing defense playing a “bend but don’t break” strategy. In fairness, the Eagles wide receivers had an awful year catching the football and there many other times when they couldn’t get open. Still Bradford was nothing to write home about.
The former number one pick in the draft threw for a total of 3512 yards in 14 games. He had a 76.5 quarterback rating with 18 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. The Birds finished the season with a 7-9 record.
works for me. Its what most around here have been calling for.
no team in the nfl gonna give sam bradford 19 or 20 mill a year. NONE
i dont think a team gonna give him 15/year either
not a bad idea but if i’m bradford i’m not signing an incentive laiden deal simply because i’ve demonstrated that I can’t make the incentives– I don’t win enough to carry my team into the playoffs…I can’t stay healthy… why would he sign?
5 year deal 100 mill with 40 guaranteed (2 years) is sams best case scenario
The GM who would do that should be fired immediately.
wrong numbers ur right… let me rephrase
5 year deal 75 mill with 30 guaranteed (2 years) is sams best case scenario
however, to save face and get the agent the press of “he got sam bradford 100+mill” i could see him getting some ridiculous deal like cutlers or krappernicks 7 years, 126 mill, with around 50 guaranteed and the team can walk anytime…
If they sign him it has to be some sort of numbers shifting thing that gives them an easy out. If you hitch your wagon to him you better have a breakaway hitch…
Yes, there has to be an out. He has done nothing to earn a 5 year deal unless there is an out after 2.
I am in the sign Sam camp but it has to make sense. Also why i lean toward a tag…. but thats another story.
Sleevie Wonder better take a deal like that…I do not think the market is going to be higher that Tom Condon thinks it is going to be for him. Sham should have taken the deal offered last year by Chump bozo Kelly.
No problem at all for me…G…the bottom line is no matter how you slice it:
He’s the best option available
His teammates wants him both offense and defense
The Coach says he can go deep in the playoffs with him
There is no way they should let him get away…
Generate as much pressure as you can to talk him down as far as you think you can…
If Condon doesn’t budge..slap the tag on him for one year.
Keep talking about wanting Daniels, Foles…keep posturing that there is guy that you can get at 13 in the draft who is a franchise QB…keep trying to get all of the leverage you can to pressure Condon into negotiating a deal that is as team friendly as possible…I dont think Condon is going for it and he shouldn’t …so the bottom line is you gotta keep him for at least a another year to have any credibility to give the new Coach a chance…so if push comes to shove….tag him!
I guess you didn’t read the quotes from the same players endorsing past starting QBs? You don’t understand players speak? Too sophisticated for ya is it? Stupid moron…players, coaches and politicians speak in sound bites and unless they are total assholes never throw a current team mate under. You are stupid
Any body hear from the chimp?
The chimp is MiA… I checked the Boone zoo obit section and nothing … Someone posted some possibilities … I am going with gave up gcobb for lent … Considering he is off booze, cigs and women (not hard for him, hasn’t been laid for six years) his next vice would be incessant posting of conflicting opinions looking for attention. He gave it up… Jesus likes him again
Hac..hoping he didn’t do the ultimate big flip and flop ..transgender..chimp is now a chump..
So change screen name to: paulagirl?
If the Eagles are serious about 2016, they need to resign Sam. Period. There is no other argument or way around it with any credibility to speak of if u say otherwise.
The coach has said he wants to win now and this is not a rebuild situation.
SaM was just starting to get comfortable with his teammates becoming more vocal and expressing leadership quality after the second half of the season. That happens when u become closer with ur teammates and more comfortable in ur environment.
Why start that over with a whole new team when u have already made one of the richeSt contracts in nfl history that was prior to the new Cba?
Sam can, and will probaby sign a Team friendly deal. That wouldn’t complete shock me if Howie worked his Magit and pulled something out of the hat similar to what the article states above,
Athletes never (especially in nfl) look at what they’ve already made. Their career is short, their guarantee money is not great… If sam gets offered $45, $50 and $55 (assuming taxes are the same)… He takes $55…. And so would you!
Hac. Is right on ..Kool. Players don’t talk about other guys ca$h…other than moron Riley cooper.Its a fraternal right of passage ,that you don’t talk about another guys coin..you can only read between the proverbial lines ,and you can sense that SAMs market will drive the action …I think the Eagles are playing this perfectly ,feigning interest in every tom dick and Harry ..
Common sense. And u are right. However it wouldn’t be the first time in sports History, not just the nfl where a player took a slight pay cut to stAy with a team. Especially when u have already changed teams before and have had 5 headcoaches and has had to learn multiple personnell a few times as well.
Howie can and should find a way to get it done. Like I said it could be the tag (unlikely)
18-20 mill a year deal, or something along the lines the article stated above.
Players in Denver endorsing Osweiler… Come on man… Players not be saying bad stuff bout nother player
Ct…why are you so hot to trot on a guy who has won, nowhere ,not one thing? How do you know plan B or C isn’t a better option ..you don’t..the only know and given commodity is Sam hasn’t won a thing in his entire career ..Lets take a guy like Kapernick ..he’s been in big pressure games ..I’m not touting him ,I’m just saying ..you can declare ..Sam is the ultimate answer
CT is a sam apologist… He admits sam is a failure but that it’s other people’s fault.
Good chance Mcoy will end up becoming totally , uncharged of barroom brawl problems in Philly niteclub area .
Rich people don’t get charged… Good for him
Colin kap has been in big games when he had a great team around him. Great run game, oline, defense, weapons and this was a team when the read option was killing the league.
Look at Colin now. Just cause he has won doesn’t mean he’s a great qb. SaM bradford played in the same divison as Colin and wasn’t even close to being on the Colin was on. He tore his acl twice for christ sake and was on a team that hasn’t made the play offs on almost 15 years. Even if he stays healthy he probably doesn’t beat out seattle or San fran. He came to philly in a totally different atmosphere, system coach and every thing and had a lead that led the league In drops again!! If cut our drops from 50 to a sorry ass 40 we are more then likely in the playoffs with 2-3 more wins.
If sam goes to Houston or Denver, you will all see. The Injury bug is behind they guy and his knee will only get stronger from here. The mental game coming back from two major injuries isn’t an excuse, it’s reality.
Wasn’t even close to being on the same team Colin was on talent wise*
So it is your opinion that great QBs can’t raise the players around them.? So a qb is just another guy of the 22? He is no more or less important than the other 21? Wow! Nfl metrics and the smell test say otherwise. QBs get paid significantly higher than other positions because they are the most important position in ALL of sports… A top qb raises the level of your team in terms of production and in terms of bottom line. They help identify your brand.., 5 was a whiny pia but you will never hear Lurie complain..he won and he helped the brand….
Week 4 against the WAshington Redskins. All everyone did prior to that upcoming game was critque Sam on how he never threw deep. He responded by coming out and throwing 2 bombs for touchdowns. On 3rd and 5 with 3 minutes left and in scoring range, Darren Sproles wide open dropped a first down catch. We punted the ball and Kirk Cousins went on his 90 yard drive to win the game.
The Carolina game where we had over 10 drops with 2-3 dropped would be touchdowns. It was the only game where Sam lost when having a 100 yard rusher. THe only interception he threw the whole game was off the hands off JOrdan matthews, which was similar to the ATL Game.
The drops also killed us versus the SKins in the second meeting with demarco fumbling away the season.
I dont know what else you want to hear. It’s not excuses. It’s the facts. Its a team sport and the QB cannot do it all himself. Were talking about a few drops that could have changed the outcome of the season. ANd this was with a qb with virtually no help at the WR and RB position for most of the season. COaching, and allowing him not to make audibles couldnt have helped him either. TOp it off with the two torn acls and you have more the the equation in favor of bradford. Everything I listed above has a background to it, and str.
Not some win loss column Bradford has at this stage in his career playing for a Rams team that had nothing..Again that Rams team being trash is a fact, not an opinion. So stop calling it an excuse. Nick Foles, who looked great in Philly at times, and even above average went their and possibly has had his career destroyed. There was nothing sam could have done going up against an all time great defense in Seattle, and a dominate Harbraugh led 49er team at the time.
Even Brady would have lost in that divison with that team and coaching staff. Keep in MInd Brady has feasted off of a weak division for 90 perecent of his pro career.
I have a solution too: Pull a one year Sixers and tank to the bottom of the pit. Get your quarterback building patiently from there, and hope your semi-Chipster decision is correct. Other than that, they better sign Sam I am. This is just a very tough spot for the Birds.
Here the solution.Its simple but wont happen. You roll the dice. I speak with Cleveland, Tenn, Jacksonville, SF. I give up the 13th pick this year for there #1 pick next year plus there #2 and 3 this year. I will then have a early 2nd round pick and 3 3rd round pick this year. Next year hopefully I will have there high 1st round ppick plus ours and be able to get the kid from Clemson or ND. Go with Sanchez this year. So I may have a top 3 pick(clevelands) and ours probably a top 7. This year with my 3 picks in the 1nd and 3rd I take best available and I sign the best FA young olineman because I have sved a lot of money by not signing a QB. Its a gamble but I would take it.
um why in the world would any of those teams make that trade– so they give up a 1, 2,3 for a 1???? they give up three premium picks for 1 premium pick??? so tenn for example gives up pick 33 and like 65 for 13 plus their number 1 next year lets say they improve and that pick is 13 next year?? why would they do that??
So basically trade our 13th pick to a team we think will suck next year so we have ammo to move up and get a franchise QB. Because the teams we think will suck next year Cleveland, Tenn, Jacksonville etc wont even need a QB. Teams like Dallas, SD the Giants may.
The Cleveland Browns are definetly the team I would try to dance with. They are picking their QB of the future #2 this year. I call them and give them the # 13 pick this year for there #1 next year. We all know it will be a top 3 pick. Plus we would get there 2nd round pick this year # 33 and there 3rd round pick # 65. and possibly a 3rd round next year. But I wouldn’t care.Just get there #1 pick next year. Then we get our QB.
Plus the odds of the team picking #1 next year probably wont need a QB and has a young one in place we would be able to package our 2 #1s to move up. if we had to.
dag you have gone off the deep end and don’t realize that it takes two to tango… NO WAY ON EARTH ANY TEAM WOULD TAKE YOUR TRADE- ITS LOPSIDED TO THE EAGLES!
They get 2 #1 picks this year if they really like someone. Its like someone moving up in the draft into 1st round this yearn Not far fetched.
according to the nfl trade chart (even if thats just an estimate) it is tremendously lopsided– I assumed that the trading team will draft 10 next year– so the eagles give up 1150 points and get back 2145– no team would do that in a MILLION years!
Im trying lol. Dont tell me i cant move my # 1 pick @13 for a teams # 1 pick next year bullshit. Maybe not get all the other picks but damn sure there 2nd this year. They are getting 2 #1 picks this year and essentiall y swapping#35 for 13 this year so they aint doing much
This is what short-sighted desperation produces…
Wild trade offers that makes absolutely no sense at all
“I call them and give them the # 13 pick this year for there #1 next year. We all know it will be a top 3 pick”
Ridiculous…
What if Cleveland drafts a good Qb this year goes 10-6 next year and ends up with their first round pick next year being between 15-20
The Eagles would look ridiculous and dumb with nothing to show for this year and in a worst position next year!
**Sixers talk**
Keep this in mind regarding the Sixers… It’s been reported that they have been “very busy working the phones and emails etc for the past two weeks”.. Though the Sixers didn’t make a huge trade, remember they spoke to numerous teams gauging interest but also seeing what will be available to them later down the line at the draft and during free agency. A lot was accomplished leading up to this trade deadline
Things can really start to heat up now… This team will be totally different this time next year…
So you are reporting that a gm was calling other teams before the trade deadline. Thanks Captain Obvious.
You should have just posted that last sentence which I actually agree with in that this team will totally different next year.
bugs..and email…don’t forget email! lol
I’m a huge nba guy ..always was a devotee ..now ,however there is no parity in the league.Unlike baseball ,football and hockey ,there are the cavs in the east ,and golden st..and San Antonio ..and every one else..this explains the lack of mobility on trade day deadline..where there’s no hope there is no enthusiasm ..the all star game is an embarrassment ..the league is now run by athletes and no longer owners ..the product in contrast to march madness ,is so stark ,that it’s now effectively decayed ..beyond reparation
eagle- it can be repaired but no one has the will to do so. they need to contract at least 4 teams- the lack of talent has watered the sport down so much- but financially the nba wouldn’t do that- they like to put out a medicre product.
As long as the players can collude and allow the league to rotate around the planetary gravitational allure of King James ..it’s doomed to fail ..no one individual should be enabled to be bigger than the sum of its parts in any league ..
Back to the QB question and its solutions..The Eagles are on the proverbial clock (March1st) ..they have a first hand blueprint of Sam ,and I ,agree with many ,he’s nothing special..He’s the tallest midget in the circus..agreed,however his pedigree ,isn’t anything that makes me feel ,the birds must hitch there wagon to this guy..I saw as many of us did …glimpses of what he can do ,but never a consistency ,in that regard..He’s a guy that always was in my estimation the Roger Maris (asterisk) of the game of pro football..always a built in excuse ,for his shortcomings..The fact that he’s “chips” guy also must be part of the calculus..what I’d like in a perfect world ,would be to tag and trade him to get back our 2nd round pick ..that “etch a sketch” removal of the Chipsters bungling so would be poetic justice ..by howie
Everybody is stating that Howie’s butt will be on the line if he resigns Sam. Because if he fails then it will be his job. Either way you slice it his job is on the line in this city with this fan base. What would be the difference between using our top pick on a qb, and he fails instead of rolling the dice on Sam?
Keep in mind we do not have a second round pick. It would be so much wiser to resign Sam, and draft a Dak Prescott in the later rounds to develop behind Sam for 2-4 years. If Sam gets hurt, or even struggles you have a nice backup plan.
Use that top pick to address either the OLine, a pass rusher, LB, Or CB. Resign SAm, and develop a QB this season. Maybe we bring in Chase Daniels to serve as a backup to Sam this season and we do NOT use a pick on the quarterback this draft. I would be fine with that by drafting a QB next offseason in 2017 to develop behind Sam and Daniels.
Why do you what the “best” of the BAD nfl QBs? I think he gets resigned but I’m not happy about, I’m not pounding my chest saying we have sign this guy… It’s just a bad situation.
If they go your route they stay mired in qb hell… I hate qb hell… In the dictionary next to the definition for qb hell there is a pic of sam… Eyes wide open and all
There will be absolutely no “grace period” if Bradford is resigned. (and this is going to factor into the decision) They resign Bradford and they better be 4-2 after 6 because you are announcing “win now!”. If its 2-4 then its doomsday for Howie and “BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!” not the way to start things off for Pederson.
Does this seem sensible for a team with a bradn new offensive system, 3 massive holes on the oline and what everyone says is a shitty WR corps??
A rookie QB or some scrub/rook combo is going to be given a a grace period. Just like 1999. The fanbase will (well, should) allow for the system to be implemented, for growing pains, mistakwes made by the rookie, errors learning the system etc. They will (well everyone except Koolidiot) understand the process and allow for development.
Bradford? Entering his 7th year will be expected to “win now” despite the gaping holes which will still be there on the oline (scrubs replaced by rookies), the same WRs, the same RBs.
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Sammy 7s…..This year…this year will be different!!!!!
This year will be different!!!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ive seen no “glimpses of what he can do” i saw exactly what he can do. excluding one preseason game against the packers, ive seen nothing but consistent bottom 10 qb play from him
dak prascot cant play pro football. cool name tho
Roseman On Bradford: We’d Like To Have Him Back…posted on Birds 24/7
The Eagles are hoping to get Sam Bradford back under contract, according to Howie Roseman. It’s just a matter of whether the two sides can find some middle ground.
Speaking to Dave Spadaro on the team site’s podcast, Roseman was asked for his thoughts on where things stand with the free-agent to be.
“We’ve all been clear that we like Sam, and we’d like to have him back. It goes then between all of us and whether we can figure something out that makes sense on both sides,” said Roseman. “Sometimes we get into a situation where we sit here and it will make sense from the team’s perspective but when you’re talking about a negotiation, it’s also got to work for the other side and the player, and we understand that. But hopefully this will all work out and we’ll look at that depth chart when we line up here in July and be really excited about the position.”
The team has until 4 p.m. on March 1 to apply the franchise tag, though there haven’t been any signs to this point that the Eagles plan to use it. That would allow Bradford to test the market, which as we laid out on Thursday, appears a bit murky for the QB at the moment.
With such uncertainty at the position, the Eagles are exploring various avenues. Roseman was asked about the report that they are expected to inquire about potentially adding Nick Foles.
“Well it’s our job as we run this team as we help kind of put it together to look at every option at that position,” he said. “You sit in the office right now and there’s not a lot of names on the quarterback depth chart that are under contract right now. And so we’ve gotta look at every option. We’ve gotta look at every possibility, and they go from starting possibilities to backup possibilities to who’s going to be our third. We take four to camp, we’ve got one right now on our roster, and so we’ve gotta bring quarterbacks in here. So every discussion that we’re having isn’t necessarily only on the basis of who’s going to be our starter, it’s also: who’s going to be here to compete and add depth and value to that position?”
A couple other highlights:
— Roseman talked about the state of the salary cap after actively signing some of their own to new contracts early this offseason:
“It’s challenging as we go forward here this year and next, but the name of the game is to have good players and to keep good players and we have to make sure we’re able to do that not only again for this season but as we get into 2017 and 2018, knowing that we’re keeping these guys…
“Probably a little tighter than it had been in the past. We had gotten accustomed to pushing over a lot of money (from the previous year); it’s going to be much more difficult to do that. We still have a couple things we’d like to do here in this offseason.”
What a ringing endorsement.
LOL
“We’d like to have him back…but you know…sometimes it just doesn’t work out….and we understand that. Hopefully this will work out and we’ll look at teh depth chart and be happy about the 4 at the position”
It is less than what you would expect to hear about a franchise caliber player…see Roseman’s quotes related to Fletcher Cox. Bottom line, they will sign him for their price, he will not be tagged. Free agency is awaiting Sham and his value will be determined there. Listening to other teams that are in need of a QB I do not think there will be as much demand for him to the degree where he will command tag money. Those teams will be looking at the draft to get their guy.
Everybody is in pre draft, pre FA signing mode… Giving veiled compliments.
Howie’s comments confirm what we have been saying. They want Bradford back despite what the anti-crowd on here will have everyone believe. This matches what Pederson was saying a few days back.
Of Course Howie’s comments regarding Fletcher are stronger than Bradfords…..Cox is a top 3 player at his position. If they let Cox go it would be Reggie White x2 and no one wants that.
No one is claiming Bradford is top three at his position so the comments are more luke warm. Regardless, even Vinnie can’t interpret Howie’s comments to mean anything but – They want Bradford back, but at a reasonable number or under reasonable terms (i.e. incentives). If he was as bad as “that crowd” on here truly believes then they would be letting him go without a second thought.
I’m in the anti sham crowd but think he will be signed because he is the ‘best’ shitty QB… But the pro Waterford crowd are ok with top 3 money…
Here are Roseman’s contracts interpreted:
““We’ve all been clear that we like Sam, and we’d like to have him back. It goes then between all of us and whether we can figure something out that makes sense on both sides,”
(We’ll have him back – but only on our terms. And those terms are going to be very low)
” “Sometimes we get into a situation where we sit here and it will make sense from the team’s perspective…..”
(We’re going to low-ball the shit out of the guy because we don’t think he’s worth what he’s asking)
“but when you’re talking about a negotiation, it’s also got to work for the other side and the player, and we understand that.”
(There’s no fucking way they’re going to accept what we’re offering. We understand that)
“But hopefully this will all work out (fat chance) and we’ll look at that depth chart when we line up here in July and be really excited about the position.” (Because we’ll have a rookie there and another established Vet we can get who can throw 19 tds for a third the price Sammy Sideways is asking)
Look….all the talk is that right now there is no market (at all) for Sammy 7s.
He just might end up crawling back to the Eagles for $6-8 million because apparently the guy is about as attractive to NFL GMs as an open bucket of nuclear waste.
All the talk is he might not even get a contract offer! (of course he will….but apparenltly nobody is drooling like Koolidiot over the guy.
So great….rejected once by the Rams…now rejected by the league…..Ladies and gentlemen, the QB of your Philadelphia Eagles Sammy sloppy Seconds.
Good times.
Vinnie – You’ll have to forgive me if I take your “interpretations” and assessment of league value with a grain of salt.
Wow!! Rams just released some good players…id kick some tires on them.
Who cares…desperately hanging on to every word Howie the Accountant says…
Spin it, twist it, and turn it anyway you want..
Its simple…the Eagles need to sign Sam Bradford
I dont care if its 10 mil, 12 mil, 20 mil, 25 mil…who cares
Once again…the Sam bashers wont stand up and make a call
Bash Sam-fine-who is your QB? Who will you ride with and say…this is the guy?
Is it Wentz? Is it Lynch? Are you going with Chase Daniels? Are you calling for the Eagles to bring Foles back?
Take a stand…take position…stop the sideline bitching and take a position!
I’d like to pose this question to the anti-Bradford crowd taking all “excuses” out of the equation….
If you were presented an unnamed guy that was a Heisman trophy winner, first overall pick in the draft, and offensive rookie of the year. Who then went on to struggle his next two years in the league, but going into his 4th year started putting up probowl numbers before tearing his ACL twice. Then, in the first season back from two ACL tears he plays a total of 14 games. Of those 14 games, the first 7 were god awful, but in the later seven his QBR (which is arguably the best baramoter for judging QBs) was top 10 in the league. How is that not a guy that you want to see more from?
I assume you will quickly point to his W/L record which is a valid point. However, how has Eli Manning fared the last few seasons (19W – 29L), what was Joe Flacco’s record this year (4-12), how has Matt Ryan faired the last three years (18-30). Conversly, a guy like Nick Foles was 14-4 under Chip Kelly.
Point is, W/L is certainly part of the equation when evaluating Qbs but it is not the end all be all. W/L has so much to do with what surrounds the QB which is way one of the top 5 Qbs of all time doesn’t have a Superbowl win in his resume. You guys keep relying on Bradford’s W/L record as the nail in Bradford’s coffin without looking at the whole picture.
We all get that his W/L record sucks, and I don’t want to feed in to the excuse argument. But putting excuses aside, read the above question again……I just don’t understand how a rational football fan can look at that trajectory and think – “Nah, that guy is toast, bring on the new rookie Qb.”
Flacco was NOT 4-12….. You totally made that up.
And Sammy sideways second half was not special because those QBR numbers came in losses where stats are skewed. I call bullshit
Sorry – 5-11 for Flacco, you got me.
As for Sam’s stats….now you are getting into the excuse game. If you can bring in excuses for the last 7 games, then I can bring in the drops, O-line, lack of running game, offensive scheme, etc. See what I mean?
Taking all excuses out of the equation on both sides of the argument — Answer the question.
sam bradford put up pro bowl numbers?
Through 7 games:
14 td
4 Int
1700 yards
61% completion
Extrapolate that out and you get (approx):
32 tds
9 Ints
4000 yards
61% completion
Darn close to pro-bowl numbers, but according to Vinnie, his Touchdowns shouldn’t count.
lol thats insane he did that. when they look back at his career when its all over that gonna be his peak
he was money in that falcons game. losing 24-3 with a minute left in the 3rd quarter he went ham the rest of that game…
man legendary shit in that texans game too 12-16, 117 yards, 3 tds!
Cantakeitanymore, the facts are simple…these guys are pure idiots
A lot of the bitter axes they have to grind against Bradford was that he replaced Nick Foles who was the guy in their minds to lead us to the next Super Bowl.
If he had played well last year in St Louis they would still be in an uproar…since he stunk they were embarrassed so now to hide that reality they dump on Bradford.
But the facts objectively show that Bradford got better as the season progressed. This is for a guy coming off of 2 ACL injuries, had not played in 2 years…came back to a team with a shaky offensive line, receivers who dropped critical passes and ran poor routes, a poor running game that got worse as the season went on.
Despite all of the obstacles, Bradford got better, played better, showed poise in the pocket, took leadership of the team…so we now see Malcolm Jenkins coming out and saying that Bradford can lead the team to the Super Bowl…we see strong support from his teammates.
The haters of Bradford simply are that….haters. None of them put forth a cohesive plan to replace Bradford…none of them are projecting which QB the Eagles should draft and why…none of them make an argument for any specific QB at all…
So we get the same redundant-hate Bradford-get anybody talk…
Ridiculous!
Dip shit he was 3-7 and injured during that time. Oh and BTW..flacco and manning have produced in the spotlight. Sammy sideways hasn’t gotten to the spotlight
Spin it!!!
You might want to be careful with that “pro bowl mumbers” shit you keep spouting.
Take a look….he had 14tds and 4 ints before he went down with his annual injury.
Ohhhh….impressive right??
“cept that 2 came in the Meaningless 4th quarter when they were down 2 tds to Atlanta. One with a solid 2 mins to go….racking up yards and tds in garbage time….have we seen that before??
3 came against the pathetic jacksonville Jaguars in the midst of a SOLID 8 game losing streak to start the year.
3 Came against the impressive Houston Texans, themselves in the midst of a 14 game losing streak.
Against decent teams?
Dallas 1 td loss
SF 1td 1int loss
Carolina 1td 1 int loss
Padding it up against 2 teams with a combined record of 6-26 and 2 more tds in garbage time in a blowout loss.
PRO BOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL
I love how you accuse me of spinning stats when I simply stat them, and then you proceed to qualify what should really count as his TD total based on the quality of his opponents/what point in the game threw the TDs.
So I guess the TDs that Brady threw against the terrible AFC East for all those years shouldn’t have counted?
QBR is a horrible stat. If you look at QBR only then, Tyrod Taylor and Alex Smith had better seasons than Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady.
Horrible statistic that puts too much emphasis on the wrong things.
Doesn’t really matter what stat you use, he was top 10 in just about all of them. Point doesn’t change just because we discount his QBR.
Prorated Over 16 games (qbs with 100+ attempts)
22 Tds = T16
16 Ints
4257 yds = 9th
yds/game = 12
Comp % = 13th
Guy is just about the definition of average.
I see your argument in that you think that he is the best option right now, but to devote 18-20 million over multiple years to an average QB with an extensive injury history doesn’t make sense to me.
My point is that I don’t think that he is a long term solution, so I would rather work on that sooner than later. Even if the division is ripe for the taking, the NFC is not. Arizona and Carolina are light years ahead of the Eagles at this point.
So what’s your plan bugsyhawk…
How do we get the Eagles to the level of Arizona or Carolina?
Who’s the Quarterback to take us to this elite level?
Is he is in this year’s draft? Who? Which one?
bugs…the only numbers he is not top 10 in is td/in…..your numbers are off.
completion percentage – 5
yards – 8
rating – 7
Thoughts on this. James Lauranitis was just released by the Rams. We sign him, release Ryans and Trade Kiko. He hasn’t missed a game in his career and would fit in this defense perfectly. Plus anything we could get for Kiko would be a plus. Sorry but the QB talk is redundant until real news hits.
Def an upgrade over Ryans at this point and who knows what you get from Kiko
What may help Bradford money wise is the rookie wage scale. You can pay Bradford 15plus mil and still afford to draft a rookie QB at some point. Even a 1st rounder and not have a lopsided amount of money committed to that spot. Remember a few years ago 10 mil a year was a ton. As the cap goes up and the garunteed money ends teams can cut guys loose
Football Outsiders shredding Sammy Sideways on their latest stats analysis.
What they call “failed completions” (basically completed passes that failed to meet their objective…example a pass gaining 3 yrds on 4th and 10)
Now we all know that Sammy Sideways is a chickenshit who always checks down or throws sideways….but where did he officially rank this year (and remember these are failed COMPLETIONS so you apologists can not bother with the drops….the Drops….the raaaaaps!!)
Sam Bradford rank:
29th
Rank on 3rd and 4th down:
30th
Wicked eh?
66.7% of Bradfords COMPLETIONS traveled less than 10 yards in the air…….tied for….wait for it……lowest in the league!!!!!!
Sammy Sideways indeed.
Man, this guy gets less impressive with every passing stat……and even I didn’t think that was possible.
BTW…..When did “worst” become “best”??????
This guy is “worst” at just about every qbing metric, yet there are guys in here who continually use the word “best” when talking about him.
How can the “worst option” be called the “best option”??
66.7% of Bradfords COMPLETIONS traveled less than 10 yards in the air…….tied for….wait for it……lowest in the league!!!!!!
Dumb ass…as usual your stats are always separated from the reality of the Eagles situation. The Eagles had no deep threats…unlike the previous years with Foles and other Eagles QB’s where you had a superstar wideout in DJax (the real reason for Foles brief success) who blew the top off of defenses and enabled you to go deep. The next year you had Maclin who was not in DJax league but still a viable down field threat.
Last year your deep threats were Riley Cooper and Josh Huff–two of the worse receivers in the NFL who couldn’t catch a cold in Alaska during the winter!
Fool ass Vinnie
The Eagles offense was designed last year to throw short..Bradford who could not audible the plays executed what Chip Kelly wanted. So instead of holding the ball, with the confused look of a QB who cant read the defense, Bradford did what he was told…took what was available…so instead of a guy holding the ball, taking a bunch of unnecessary sacks, confused…you had a guy who used the very limited offensive talent around him to the best of their limited ability…and hit 65% of his passes despite the massive drops!
Once again as he shook off the rust of not playing for 2 years and we got to the last 7 games…the question is did Bradford improve or regress?
The answer is clear…he improved significantly just as I stated during the year.
Way to go Koolidiot!
You just made all the excuses as to why Sammy Sideways alawys threw short…and why he was ranked 29th overall and 30th on 3rd and 4th down with pussy throws short of where they needed to be…..the WRs, The Oline, The coaches, The ball boy, The rain.
Now….can you please make more excuses to explain why he’s been ranked THE EXACT SAME every other year of his miserable failed career.
LOL
Are you kidding me?? No one has more lame ass excuses than you Vinniedafoolass!
With all of your whining, bitching, and moaning about the QB, you give every other aspect of the team a free pass! An excuse…
Vinniedafoolass says the following:
“The wide receivers would be Pro Bowl players if only they didn’t trade for Sam Bradford”
“The running backs would have dominated…if it wasn’t for Sam Bradford”
“The Offensive line would have went down in history as the greatest Oline ever…if it wasn’t for Sam Bradford”
“The Special Teams would have scored 40 touchdowns if it wasn’t for Sam Bradford”
“Billy Davis would be interviewing for Head Coaches jobs as a brilliant defensive mind…if it wasn’t for Sam Bradford”
“If we only would have kept Nick Foles, we would be in the Super Bowl…but it Sam Bradford’s fault that we got rid of him.”
“Instead of being vinnietheevictor, I’m Vinniedafoolassloser because of Sam Bradford”
“me and mKKKtheperverthenski got fired from our janitor jobs at the Piggly Wiggly because of Sam Bradford”
“Everything that’s wrong with my miserable life is because of that damm Sam Bradford”
Dude, you should really think twice before opening your mom’s laptop for these lame attempts at humour.
Stick to the whole “Fool-ass!” shtick it works better for you than hatever this was…….at least it elicits a smile every once in a while….but this??? Man, that’s weak.
I’d tell you to not quit your day job, but you don;t have a day job, so that doesn;t really carry any weight.
Vinniedafool you have zero sense of humor and the same amount of football acumen…and I understand…you blame Bradford for that too.
At least deserteagle stepped up and put a plan forth
Tag Bradford and trade him and sign Daniels
It’s a dumb move because Daniels is a backup for a reason
We need a starter and the best one available is Bradford
What’s Vinniedafool’s plan? Vinniedafool’s has the “whodafuckknows” plan which means be stuck on stupid and become an expert if it doesn’t work out
Lame ass
Kool ..the fact that you mis-interpret my thoughts is comforting ,in its distinction..my main objective is ;to not let Sam ,just walk out the door with zero compensation ,this would follow a similar mistake in DJAX..Mathis ..If revisionist history can be repeated Pederson and Daniels (a cheaper option ) than Bradford for certain,and I’m hoping ,would actually sign for incentive laden contract ,allowing for much needed Oline help,and possibly a wide out ,and draft to fill another hole .The reality is that the Eagles are reconstructing ,a demolition ,that Chip left in his departure.We all know Sam isn’t going to give the “home team” discount needed to accomplish the same plan as this.For his mediocrity ,if he’s not committed to anything ,financially ,but himself ..show him the door ,but ,receive ,I’m hoping a second round pick in his departure,by tagging and controlling his rights…..This rant you’re on about Sam is without any basis ..If we are realists ,we have to admit ,Sam is going where he’s comfortable ,near his Oklahoma roots ,for the most money ..If he’s not fiscally committed ,why in the hell should we be?Hes never won ,and yet,that doesn’t seem a part of his pursuit.or for that matter his DNA…to me that speaks volumes about the guy ..Yours and others arguments are that he improved as he got comfortable as the season wore on..let’s look under the hood ,and understand the fact that ,at that time ,everybody else on the team was dealing with a coach who was losing his locker room,his leadership ,didn’t make anybody better ,accomplishing the ultimate goal..winning ..the truth is ,he’s been marginalized ,by mitigating circumstances ,since he’s entered th league..an asterisk of excuses..that better defines the guy ,than any ,empty stats you and others cling on to ..which ,by the way is a weakened
Twig ,like his knees..
deserteagle, I only responded to what you stated…you said tag Bradford, trade him, and sign Daniels…this was the scenario that you put forth…what could I have “misinterpreted”.
Of course, you and many others refuse to accept reality, your delusions carry you into the speculative realm where everything always works out.
“Get rid of Bradford, he has never “won” and what we will be able to do is get Chase Daniels, a career backup’ who has never ‘won’ a starting job, we are going to do like we did with McNabb…get a backup play him and draft the next franchise QB”
Right
This is simply delusional…while everything in the career of Bradford is blamed on him, excuses are made for every other aspect of the team. We always talk about Quarterback position as if we are talking about tennis or boxing…
Bash the Quarterback and give everyone else a complete and free pass. The Quarterback completes 65% of his passes while his receivers lead the league in drops…Blame the Quarterback-receivers-Josh Huff and Riley Cooper get off the hook.
The Eagles running game sucks-Blame the Quarterback-Demarco Murray gets off the hook
The Quarterback throws for 10 td’s and 4 interceptions in his last 7 games and the Eagles defense is ranked 30th in the league for Net yards allowed-Blame the Quarterback-the Defense gets off the hook
Bradford is the only QB in the league not allowed to audible -Blame the Quarterback let the Coaching off the hook
Bradford has never won his entire career-Blame the Quarterback, but ignore the offensive line, running game, receivers, and defense of the Rams…let them off the hook.
Here is the bottom line…the new h has given him the highest praise of any of the Qb’s available-called him ‘top-notch’ and said he can go deep in the playoffs with him
The Players on the team want him back.
No one has told us of another QB who is better
These are the facts, this is the reality…is he Tom Brady…NO…Is he on the other end of the spectrum the worst starting QB in the NFL (Nick Foles)…NO
He’s somewhere in the middle and that’s the best we can get for now…until we can do better, I’m taking Bradford and I don’t care what it cost.
This is the sensible and rational position!
Kool..in a nutshell..my mistake ,I thought the transparency was there,but ,in essence I spoke of more in substance than what you took from my remarks.Ill lay it out as I intended them.My main goal is to let the market ,create the supply and demand ..Why? Because(you omitted this ) Sam ain’t sliced bread $$ good..he just isn’t..hasn’t won (matters) wins are what avoids firings..what new coach in his right mind ,wants the one denominator Ws vsLs playing out with a guy who’s resume is littered with horshoe ,,near misses..Add into that his (you can’t ignore Captain Obvious,his durability limits.It still a business and guys who trumpet from broad street “sign him,and damn the cost…trust me ,that’s not the organizations ,feelings..I also made mention IF he gave the Eagles a “home team” price ..15 or less ,then I am a supporter of a contract similar to kap..laden with exit doors..As far as the QB ..Pederson has a track record of being a part of the process ,under AR of sucking as a starter(himself) while a young QB (top pick) is groomed..he will likely follow that path ,as its one he has seen yield returns..He’s a very run oriented play caller ,and I believe ,he believes ,capital needs be invested in the obvious holes…if you follow your decree ,you’re maxing and possibly crapping out …not unless it’s a discount is this team ,going to lose sensibility…
Gotta be real…that response is whack and weak as shit!
Football outsiders also had him as 9th best option at qb I believe
Vin bad stat there
It was actually 72.4 % traveled less than 10 yards!
21.2% traveled less than 0 yards! Ewwww
Guess what his last year where he played 2013 his stats were
74.8 % less than 10 yards
18.2% behind the line of scrimmage
But the resident dumbass thinks it’s because of Eagles wr
Lmfao
Chicken shit qb
He’s been a chickenshit throwing short his entire career (of course this is everyone else’s fault)
He’s been ranked 29th, 30th, 32nd, 30th whatever every single year of his miserable .360 career.
Sammy Sideways
Sammy 360!!
Vin. He’s reminiscent of the busty gal in high school padding her bra
Reminds me of the scared shitless wimps afraid to ask the busty girl in high school out for a date.
Again…all of the moans about Bradford but none of you are stepping up to the plate…what should the Eagles do if not Bradford…
Man up!
Who should they draft? gimme a name…
Should they bring in Daniels? make the call..!!
Do they go after Foles? Stand up…take da shot!
Do they start Sanchez..
Stop scratching your ass with the dumb look talking about ‘who da fuck knows’
Stop wimping and whining and make a call…
I know the move…you slip and slide…you chuck shade at Bradford while not taking a stand…and if the new QB dont work out…you can bash management that they made a dumb move and you woulda, coulda done something different!!
So Lame…wimps!
I’ll be happy to address the current QB situation ..the birds need let the market develop ,then make an intelligent decision based upon who’s available vs what SAMs price is .If the tag ,allows for a trade ,and a return of at best a 2nd round pick that they gave away ,then that’s the ultimate win,win..The hiring of Pederson might very well be part of a chase Daniels plan already in place ..that to me would be. A signal of why the Eagles aren’t rushing to the table to extend Sam..this very well may be plan B ,if SAMs price is driven high by the marketplace ..either way ,March 1st will connect those dots
So your call is for the Eagles to tag and trade Bradford and sign
Chase Daniels?
Got deserteagle nailed down as a Chase Daniels guy…
Got you!
What about the rest of the hate Sam crew? Take a stand…take a position!
I’m a stick with sam on a decent contract- draft a qb to develop- when sam gets injured in preseason go 1-15 and draft the best qb in the draft.
Remember the Eagles are easily prejudiced. To listen intently to A.R. He may have sold them on a Pederson Daniels scenario ..not unlikely
Very unlikely…its obvious…Pederson made the hardest push for Bradford calling him a “top-notch” QB that he believes can take the Eagles deep in the playoffs. While you and so many naysayers may not have been impressed by Bradford’s second half of the season, where he threw for 10 td’s and only 4 interceptions…Bradford’s teammates dont agree with you and others:
Eliot Shor-Parks had talked to unnamed teammates early in the year about Bradford they initially said:
“They said he was inaccurate, immobile and holding the offense back.”
As the season went on, however, those opinions about Bradford changed, and by the end of the season — when the Eagles were sitting at home during the playoffs without a head coach — the same teammates who had criticized him now wanted him back, because they had seen growth in his game and his leadership qualities.
“Without question. We need him,” said a player on offense.
“I really hope [he comes back],” said another.
“I don’t want to rebuild. We can win with Sam,” said another. ”
From NJ.com Eliot-Shor Parks
The Eagles would be foolish to neglect what the Coach said, what the Players are saying…they need to sign Bradford…as the best available and move on
Kool. So now you are going to place as a credible reason to sign Sam ,no matter the cost ..based upon unattributed players quotes…and coach speak ,and player speak politically correct sound bites ..unbelievable ..your desire to fully grasp the “spin” ..
At a home team discount ..or a tag and trade ..I’m on board with Sam..otherwise …see you later ..
Agree fully. I am not a all in for Sam guy.. however I think he is a better option to have as a starter while we coach up a rook. Ill laugh real hard if they some how end up with Kap or RGIII.. it would be the death of a few posters.
RG3 way more talented than bradfraud. krappernick is just like sam – not an nfl starter
The 76ers are reportedly very high on Dennis Schroder, and they may attempt to acquire him via trade when the offseason hits.
The 76ers reportedly offered the Hawks a deal involving Nik Stauskas, Ish Smith and a 2016 first-round pick to acquire Schroder at the trade deadline, but the Hawks ultimately turned down the offer. However, Philly and Atlanta could revisit those talks during the offseason, which is an indication that the 76ers front office may not view Smith as their point guard of the future. Philly is reportedly willing to give Schroder a “lucrative offer,” so this is a situation we’ll be monitoring closely this summer.
Related: Ish Smith, Nik Stauskas
Source: philly.com
Feb 24 – 11:49 A
Don’t say that too loud Big Mhenski, someone may blow a gasket at the fact that Schroder has become a viable NBA Player, because he was a GMCliff recommendation along with Giannis Adetkoumbo – who they should also try to sign in Free Agency – when they were drafted.
Adetkoumbo, would be a very nice safety net in case Embiid doesn’t return to full health, and opens the opportunity to use Nerlens Noel in a trade if possible – IF NECESSARY – I don’t think anyone HAS to be traded, – Noel would be a complement off the bench defensively, and it is completely stupid to trade Jahlil Okafor – JUST STUPID.
This is why the Sixers lingered between mediocre, and sucking through the years – making dumb moves like that.
But I only like Schoder as a backup Point Guard only – not a starter – and for the record, I like Ish Smith Better…..I think they should make every effort to go at Russell Westbrook hard – to become our starter – and pay him what he wants, pay Adtekumbo, and pray we win the lottery to draft Simmons.
What about SG Cliff??!!……2017 draft Josh Jackson …..2016 draft Dunn, and let Westbrook play the 2
Only Colangelo would over think it, and screw it up…I do not like, or trust him in this process.
2016 Wish list lineup for 76ers
PG- Schroeder
SG – Hield
SF – Harrison Barnes
PF- Simmons
C- Embiid
eeeeeeeeeeeeeasily doable.
lmfao u sound like gloomy. westbrook aint coming here and okc will pay him what he wants and can pay him more than any team in the nba.
lets do some realistic stuff – harrison barnes is realistic
But when Durant leaves, what do you think is keeping Westbrook in Oklahoma City???…regardless how much they offer him….
Philly could be the beginning of a new future.
I think Buddy Hield is 2016 version of DeAngelo Russell – good college player, marginal NBA Player…I don’t like Harrison Barnes a little bit, and we can do better.
IF durant leaves we can revisit that. but even if he did he isnt going to want to come to philly. philly wont be able to offer what other teams could in terms of being 1 piece away….westbrook isnt a free agent until 2018 so dudes not even on my radar
heild is nothing like russell, games are totally different but heild can flat out shoot and sixers havent had a real shooter in decades. he can and will play at a high level in the nba
barnes is a solid defender and can also shoot. ill take him next year over the dude in syria with the cleft palet – saric.
barnes is only 23 that kid is better than iguadala ever was and will continue to get better. he would be a great start at starting to reshape this young team with champions, dudes with experience, smart players that play d and can shoot. barnes is probably the best realistic free agent signing the sixers could do this year…
That’s what I’m saying Big Mhenski, because Durant will be leaving, and that makes it a reality.
As far as coming to Philly, if they are as improved, and going in the right direction, they has a much of a chance for his services as anyone else
Also, I wasn’t comparing Hields game to Russell, I was talking about the hype, and how wrong so many were in thinking he was going to be something he wasn’t. Hield will be just as or even more disappointing in the NBA.
I know what you’re trying to say about Barnes, but for me I wouldn’t be interested in him as one of my starters.
Sixers’ arena is empty, they don’t qualify for players like Barnes or Westbrook. The Sixers went straight to Schoeder’s agent and told him they will pay his client an in house own team Max deal post trade contract. The same exact deal Westbrook is getting. Atlanta is stuck now. No other team is going to pay Schroeder Russell Westbrook money. Schoeder will force his way to Philly now. Maybe Sacramento would give him Westbrook money, they do bizarre things. It’s called the Bledsoe move. Schroeder’s agent will force the Sixers trade if Atlanta won’t shed Teague and give him the max deal. Schroeder does not have an all star skill set, insane to pay him that kind of money.
barnes and westbrook arent in the same spectrum. barnes isnt a franchise or max deal player. however i think the sixers could offer him a max deal just to get the team going in the right direction.. lets be honest your right and westbrooks/durants any superstar isnt coming here now… but the sixers also are flush with cash and with the cap expected to rise significantly they could arguably have enough cash for 3 max guys so using 1 max on barnes is no big deal and golden state wouldnt and couldnt match…
i dont have a clue about schroeder to know how he do as a starter.
i like my lineup and think its doable
barnes is the 4th option in san fran and that aint changing
I really wouldn’t waste my time or money Big Mhenski on Barnes,
If I get Simmons, and I have Saric coming off the bench, why would I need him???
In free agency their focus needs to be on the guards. I like Schroder, but I know he isn’t a starter, so it makes no sense to pay him like one.
Holy crap. A max contract to that dude. What exactly has he done to earn a max contract? Nothing. Nothing at all.
This is ridiculous.
I think this is a Colangelo Brain Child Bugs…..
I’ll say it again, I do not like him in this process
ur right bugs he has done nothing at all but its paying for upside. and overpaying because you have to (because no player coming here at the same amount he can get elsewhere) and because you can (we have the $, we can overpay him and still have a ton left)
if you get simmons he is likely playing the 4, he is agile enough to play the 3 but man he gonna have to live in the paint (they hiding his jumper for a reason?)
saric is irrelevant to me
im starting barnes 3, simmons 4, and hopefully embiid 5. athletic as fuck, young as fuck, upside through the roof.
cliff you think in fantasy land like a westbrook has a serious chance of coming here when in reality the chance is less than 1% just like it was with cousins, aldridge and whatever other superstars u posted in the past. im trying to put out realistic shit
Big Mhenski, Simmons would be playing the 3, not the 4….Barnes is irrelevant bruh, because Saric is already a member of the team…I mean really…C’mon..lol
Cousins, and Aldridge never made it to Free Agency, those years….
It is realistic that he would consider Philly with a legitimate supporting cast, built to win a Championship, as it is equally realistic they could sign Harrison Barnes, or any other players. Just because we disagree, doesn’t mean it isn’t.
I’m starting..
G – Russell Westbrook 6-5
G – Josh Jackson 6-7
C – Jahlil Okafor 7-0
F – Giannis Adetkoumbo 7-0
F – Ben Simmons 6-10
G – Ish Smith 6-0
G – Kris Dunn 6-4
C – Nerlens Noel 6-11
F – Joel Embiid 7-2
F – Dario Saric 6-10
G – EC Matthews 6-5
G – Vacilic Micic 6-6
F – Jeremi Grant 6-9
F – Robert Covington 6-9
F/C – Rischard Holmes 6-10
Ok cool u start them in 2 years ago based on us getting 1 pick and 4 or 5 from lakers this year and getting the #1 again next year and based on Westbrook turning down more money with okc and choosing to play with 20 year olds in philly over everywhere else.
I’ll field my line up based on us getting #1 this year and signing a soon to be rfa.
My odds are probably around 10%
Yours are below 1%
LOL….That would depend on whose setting the odds bruh….and I don’t need Dunn. There’s just the possibility he could be chosen, but I’d rather have Victor Olidjpo
Nevertheless, In my opinion, my vision of Championship Team IS hands down better……..
jesus cliff. my original post never had anything to do with building a championship team, all it was is what the sixers could likely do this offseason. outside of the draft and barnes i dont really see any fits unless we trading someone but i dont make up trades because theyre just not likely to come to fruition as it takes 2 teams to agree and because im not in the league i have no clue who is on the block or not.
youre going back and forth with me and we are talking about 2 different things
now to odds, no it doesnt depend on who is setting the odds it depends on math. my plan – sixers get #1 pick this year the odds as of today are 25%, now my other plan is to sign barnes- whats the odds of that 10% at best? they can offer him a max and nobody is matching that. i get you dont agree with that and i get why but the sixers have to overpay for someone or they aint coming.
now lets look at your odds
1st pick this year – 25%
Lakers pick falling out of the top 3 – 45%
getting #1 pick next year 15% at best
signing Giannis Antetokounmpo in 2 years – idk what to set those odds at but considering he will be a RFA in 2 years and his team can match any offer id say 10% at best
signing westbrook in 2 years – setting the odds on him taking less money to play here than okc, and choosing here over every other nba team is a hail mary. those odds are 1% or less
now you have to put all those odds together and do an equation to say what are the odds all these things happen and i can tell you with 100% certainty its less than 1%
I know we were talking about Schroder, and Barnes in your vision to move forward in the building process.
I just gave what I felt were better options, and they are.
of course they are. but you playing in fantasy land im living in reality. if i wanted to hope for unrealistic miracles id say this summer we signing lebron and durant and getting simmons since theyre both free agents and since we have the money. but theres no point in saying it because there is less than a 1% chance just like getting simmons, then getting the #1 pick next year, then getting lakers pick this year, then getting westbrook. its a pointless discussion as its not easily attainable.
since the cap is going up and we have the money i could say we getting simmons this year. lebron and durant will team up here then next year we can sign westbrook too… but if i said that i would be dellusional
No NBA superstars are gonna wanna take less money to play with kids in philly. No NBA superstars are gonna choose philly over NYC, Bos, LA…
NO NBA SUPERSTARS ARE GONNA WANNA STEP FOOT IN CAMDEN EVER
But I didn’t say that…..lol
So we’ll see
Isn’t this why we discus these things Big Mhenski, because we want a Championship Team??
There’s no reason to sign anyone to come here unless they were thought to be a piece to the puzzle.
Westbrook, and Adetkuombo will be free agents next year – not 2 years from now – Chill with the odds non sense, because there is no exact science to it when free will comes into play.
In other words if the Sixers make it worth their while, and they’re content with it they will be here – because it will be their choice – not anyones guess…
screw the odds. The Sixers need to defy the odds, and go get them – Money always talks – especially if it gives you a better chance to win a Championship, and if the Front Office does it’s job, they will be right there in the mix.
Not a Sam fan, but I think they should do a deal like that. I think a team friendly deal loaded with incentives is the way to go. I do agree he may be the best option for this year. If he plays well, stays healthy, and possibly takes the team to the playoffs he deserves to all the extra incentives he can. If not, they can dump him as soon as something better comes along. If he plays well it would be a win/ win for both sides. Not sure his agent would want him to sign a deal like that.