The 76ers got what they wanted last night or was it yesterday afternoon, depending on what you think of Dkembe Mutombo, who let the cat of the bag yesterday.
It’s either Ben Simmons or Brandon Ingram for the Sixers with the number one pick in this year’s NBA Draft.
Simmons looks like a monster at his age, 18. He has power forward size. He stands 6’10” weighs 240 pounds, but he can handle the ball like a gifted guard. He’s a great passer and playmaker, but his outside shooting is abysmal.
The Australian product was unable to lead LSU to the NCAA tournament. He’s not assertive, when it comes to scoring or shooting. He doesn’t take over the game, when it’s on the line.
Ingram on the other hand, loves to have the ball in his hands because he’s a shooter. At the age of 18, he stands 6’9″ and weighs only 196 pounds. The young man can score, but he doesn’t yet have a NBA body.
Unlike Simmons, Ingram can get his own shot and he’s assertive with the game on the line. Simmons creates for others, but not for himself.
Many will take Simmons because he already has the NBA body and should be able to learn to shoot much better. I would prefer Ingram because he’s a scorer and can shoot from outside, which will pair well with the Sixers young big men.
I wouldn’t have a problem with either one of these guys because they can both take their games to a very high level. It’s going to come down to how motivated they are. Each of them will be financially secure for the rest of their lives in a few months. In order to be as great as their potential will allow them to be, they must have a drive from inside that compels them to work on the weak parts of their game.
Will Simmons push himself to be as great a shooter as he is a ball handler and creator? Will Ingram push himself to get in the weight room and develop a NBA body? They both have Hall of Fame talent, but will they put in the work when they don’t really have to.
The Sixers must do their homework to find the answer to that question.
Simmons hands down…….get out of here with Brandon Ingram.
He is the wrong choice just like DeAngelo Russell was last year…
SIMMONS!!
Simmons has to dribble forward to get a shot off, he can’t catch and shoot nor step back and shoot. Repetition should repair that but it is a risk.
Duke played a zone so I don’t know if Ingram can defend a SG like Derozen or Wade. I’m sure there is AAU video for the Sixers to determine whether he can or not. See very little risk in Ingram offensively. He is an above average starter. The worst Ingram could be is Cory Brewer or Chandler Parsons. But what makes Ingram special and a better prospect than Brewer or Parsons is the Height that Ingram gets when the ball releases on his 5 foot floaters and 5 foot bank shot drives. His arms are so long they reach out in a 45 degree ankle from his body turning a 5 foot shot into a 2 and half foot shot. It is a great weapon.
opps angle not ankle
Simmons is not a Philly player. He is lazy and does not want the ball at crunch time.
Simmons scares me. Reminds me of one of those AAU players that’s had his ass shined by all the ‘hanger-on-er’ types…will he work on his game? Will he make team mates better, will he make money, get lazier or push himself…. He has a high bust quotient
Rumors already circulating Lakers are actively shopping the #2 pick.
I read a rumor on line where the Sixers trade Okafor for the 2 pick to L.A. And we get Simmons and Ingram. Simmons plays small forward and Ingram plays shooting guard.
Bad scouting report G lol. Simmons can absolutely create his own shot and score. The fact that he CAN create for others at his size is what overshadows his elite handle and ability to get to the basket off the dribble, in transition, and on the block. There have been plenty of elite players to come into the league with an average to below average jumper. The great ones WORK HARD ON IT. I actually like Ingram, but to suggest he’s a better offensive player is short sighted and simply not true. He HAS A BETTER JUMPER, but that’s where the comparison ends. Jordan, Iverson are 2 of the most prolific scores the game has ever seen. Neither one was considered a good jump shooter coming out. Both developed a jumper that was more than respectable later.
Simmons jumper is flat out UGLY…He obviously knows if he only took THREE 3pt shots last year….meanwhile Ingram shot over 40% from 3pt land…and he is still just a baby in comparison
Not sure what point you’re trying to make that I didn’t already cover.
Not so fast G-Man…
Center-Embiid
PF-Saric
SF-Simmons
SG-Ingram
PG-?
This team right here would be a serious problem in like two years.
Diddy Ingram is NOT a shooting guard – not even close.
He is more like Dirk, than Durant – and he isn’t close to Durant either. Durant can run the point if necessary – Ingram cannot ever…
That comparison is ridiculously exaggerated.
I’m always leary of Duke players any way, so I won’t argue too much for Ingram. He can shoot the rock tho, and plays defense
That’s something else all the Ingram lovers are neglecting to reason on too; Duke players rarely succeed in the NBA; Their system makes a lot of prospects look a lot better than they really are.
Outside of Grant Hill, Okafor, Kyrie Irving – Battier, and Deng, for me are marginally successful as well – there isn’t much to hang your hat on talent coming out of Duke; They are always over rated.
Many felt the same way about Christian Leattner,and many others.
Also I’m not comparing Ingram to Simmons at all. The only problem I have with Simmons is his love for L.A.
Ben Simmons is Magic Johnson. Magic didn’t have a consistent Jump Shot coming out of Michigan State either – but that improved.
Brandon Ingram’s ceiling is Dirk Nowitski, and his floor is Travis Outlaw.
Give me Magic. Get out of here with Ingram being better than Simmons, because of his jumper….PETTY..
Ben Simmons doesn’t have the competitiveness or killer instinct or the “Alpha Ego” to be anywhere near what Magic Johnson was…
Maybe Simmons can develop these traits more as he matures but in many cases, you either have these or you don’t…
Simmons is a Talented kid but, I just dont see antything Special about him thus far..he really struggled during the 2nd Half of the SEC Season last Year versus some average Teams/Players as they game planned for him more..
Magic Johnson and Larry Birg both had Star written all over them by the time they entered the NBA this Kid Simmons is nowhere close to them..
And as usual, when it comes to basketball Paul, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I’m hearing this from someone who thought Gary Harris was legitimate NBA Player. How’s he doing in his career Paul????……
Simmons game mirrors Magic more than any recent prospects – a lot more than Ingram’s mirrors Durant’s. People say that based on measurables, but he is nothing more than a poor mans Dirk Nowitski.
Paul stick to the nfl.
If dudes upside was dirk I’m all about Ingram. Dirks always been unreal and a winner. Dudes a legend
Not more so than Magic……no one in their right mind would take Dirk over Magic…no one.
Agree
To compare this stiff to Magic is asinine…Magic took a MSU team to its first Big Ten title in 20 years his freshman year and their first NCAABB championship his second year. The players were some stiffs with names like Kelsey,Donnely,Charles,Vincent and Brkovich. All he did was single handedly beat the Sycamores (and Larry Bird) himself leading the team in PTS,RBS and Assists.
Simmons couldn’t lead his LSU team to win a crappy SEC this season let alone make the tournament (lost 72-38?) ….pouted at the end of the season and reports are that many of his teammates didn’t like him……taller verson of Evan Turner
oh god “taller evan turner” got me shook. fuckkkkkkk
Check your stats brother. Magic had the most points with 24, but Kelser had 19 and led the team in rebounds and assists in the game. Kelser led the team in points (18.1) and rebounds (8.5) for the season. Kelser was also the 4th pick in the draft in 1979 with Magic being #1.
I understand your point and probably agree with it, but just because you haven’t heard of the guys doesn’t mean that they weren’t good players.
point taken bugsy….but you got my drift
I also happen to think Ingram floor is Lamar odom minus the overdose part.
I think going Simmons is a no brainer tho. Every scout in the world would have to be wrong for him to be any less than a star. I just think it’s gonna take some more time with him to find his game than Ingram due to the no jumper.
Doesn’t Brett brown have some kind of relationship with Simmons from the Aussie connection?
Brett Brown coached Simmon’s father who moved to Australia from NYC to play Center in their professional basketball league. During Simmons basketball career Brett Brown was already coaching in the NBA so he didn’t have any direct interaction with him. Simmon’s played high school basketball in Florida with Joel Embiid and D’angelo Russell where as Dante Exum played in Australia.
Simmons converted only 31 percent of his jump shots this past season. He was only slightly better on jump shots off the dribble (37 percent) and was worse on those from midrange (26.7 percent). Per Synergy Sports, he scored 0.64 points per possession on his jump shots, ranking him 6,446 out of 6,797 players with at least 40 jump-shot possessions.
But Gary Harris is a Legitimate NBA PLayer Cliff.. He’s not a Superstar and I never said that he was…. He improved in Year #2 Playing 76 Games for the Competitive Nuggets and Averaged 32 minutes a Game Scoring 12.3 Pts with 2 Assist & 1.5 Steals a Game
His Shot 47% from the Field but only 35% from the Beyond 3 Point Line
and 82% from the Free-Throw Line…
All in All, a nice 2nd Year for the 19th Pick of the 2014 Draft.. SG Garry Harris is well liked and respected by his Coaching Staff & Teammates and their Front Office are high on him to be part of the exciting Guard Tandem for years to come along with PG Emmanuel Mudiay
He is a crap NBA player Paul…..
How can he be a “Crap Player” if he’s playing 32 Minutes a Game in the NBA for 30+ Win Team Played and Coached by Professionals ? If he was Crap, He wouldn’t even be playing.. Garry Harris has the Size, Toughness and Hi B-Ball IQ and will have a Nice 10 Year Productive Career in the NBA barring any Serious Injury, which is what I said about him in the 2014 Draft Run Up…
Gary Harris gets more minutes than Noah Vonleh. So far in the NBA Vonleh has kept all the guys GMCliff said stink seat’s warm while they play and he doesn’t Mason Plumlee, Cody Zeller, Meyer Lenard. Frank Kaminski’s addition made Vonleh useless to Charlotte.
vonleh was cliffs boy
Vonleh was my guy.
As was Giannis Adetekoumbo, Dennis Schroeder, Jimmy Butler, DeMarcus Cousins, Emmanuel Mudiay, and Klay Thompson
I’m also the guy who stated that Thomas Robinson, Austin Rivers, Derrick Williams, Gerald Henderson, Wayne Ellington, Cody Zeller, Ben McLemore, Michael Carter-Williams, Marcus Smart Nik Stauskas, Jared Sullinger, D’Angelo Russell, and Jabari Parker wouldn’t be what you thought they would be in the pros.
GMCliff I thought your guys were Jaylen Brown and Tyler Dorsey ? you going to walk that back yet and apologize for being a dingbat .
No my sons are Jaylen and Tyler…… still jealous I see
GMClueles – comparing Ingram to Dirk is so ridiculously stupid that only a dingbat would do that. Ingram’s game mirrors cory brewer, chandler parsons, tayshaun prince, kevin durant, trevor ariza. These players like to play facing the basket from the wing. Dirk Nowitski is a high pick and roll player who excelled picking and popping then posting up smaller players on switches off the high pick and roll dive.
You call me clueless, yet has proven over he years he knows nothing. Yeah, I respect your opinion.. lol……When have I ever cared what you think??
Ingram’s game is nothing like Brewer, Durant, Parsons, or Ariza – There is no way you look at him and see any of them. Brewer is a shooting guard, Durant is like a point forward, Parsons can’t handle the ball, and Ariza is your prototypical forward – which Ingram is not – He is a skinny, poor mans Dirk Nowitski
I’ll give you Prince – who in his heyday was a smaller Ingram height wise, but that’s where it stops, and I think that is what he probably is – with a surrounding cast. But he isn’t better than Simmons…period.
Brandon Ingram will never be the horns or high pick and roll NBA offense screen setter like Dirk Nowitski. You are a dingbat to even suggest that he would. Now I know you never played organize basketball in your life if you don’t understand the most popular NBA offensive sets. Every team runs the same exact plays over and over and over again. Once every decade or two a guy like current Celtic Coach Brad Stevens will develop a new wrinkle in the plays but very very rare.
no time to verify all that but jabari is a beast
Cliff lies all the time about everything.
No one is talking about his teams pick and roll strategy, and his ability to do so. I’m talking about his overall game. It’s EXACTLY like Dirk’s….
His skill set is exactly the same.
The over/under on the combined number of Nugget games watched by fraudman and cliff is 4.5– they are debating a player neither has seen play all that much–
I’m going with the UNDER!!!!
I think Paulman is exactly right. To be fair I’ve only seen the kid 3 times (a small sampling). In all 3 he seemed lazy on defense and didn’t want the ball when it counted. In the Oklahoma game Buddy Hield made all the shots at the end and Simmons didn’t want the ball and let other less talented players take all the shots. That isn’t Magic Johnson. Philly is expecting the number 1 pick to be an assassin and right now he isn’t close . If he brings that attitude to Philly he’s going to be booed out of the build. Just my opinion.
Paulman doesn’t know real talent when it comes to basketball. He’s a football guy. Agreeing with him doesn’t say much….
I never said I was an expert like you apparently think you are. I told you why I had reservation about Simmons and why I agreed with Paulman. If you have seen Simmons play in a full game and not just a highlight reel other than a weak put down tell me why I’m wrong.
Dime explaining won’t make the point…I just let time prove it – showing you better than I can tell you…… then my point will be made loud and clear.
Fair enough. Reguardless of who they pick I hope it works out for the 76ers. The city deserves a winner
DTime absolutely!!
Tex AM 71 LSU 38
sounds like a transcendent player to me….
I didn’t know he was the only player on the team…..
Would your argument have legs if he played for Kentucky?
More irrelevance. He’s still a star in the making…
one other thing to think about Ingram won’t turn 19 till 9/2….Simmons will be 20 on 7/20….13 months younger
totally irrelevant
Our starting lineup would look something like this IF we keep the roster as is..
PG Ben Simmons
SG Dario Saric
SF Nerlens Noel
PF Jahlil Okafor
C Joel Embiid
Trust the freakin process.. My god
Get some shooters and we’ll be rollin
Three years ago we would’ve never thought we’d have a roster like this with all these lotto guys and with potential to trade for and draft other blue chippers..
Thank you Sam Hinkie!!!
Losing on purpose for 3 years is fundamentally wrong– your lineup as it reads includes a 270 lb man thats had more foot surgeries than games played in the last three years.
I’m sure OKC, Cleveland and Golden state are quaking in their boots.
thank you for the historical losing? um losing like this does take effort i guess but really…’thank you’– i don’t get it.
Lebron James has owned the Eastern Conference 5 straight and 6 out of last 8 Eastern Conference Championships and about to win the East again this year and probably next year too. Sixer may come out smelling like roses if they can be in a position to emerge when the KING finally dies and doesn’t rule the NBA EASTERN Conference anymore.
agreed. id rather be spending my time on making a star studded team for when lebron is done as opposed to being the atlanta hawks of the nba. when your a team like the hawks/raptors/boston your championship is the eastern conference finals. that does nothing for me.
i like the talent we accumulating and cant wait to see what they get traded for or develop into. just sucks we couldnt get wiggins/parker 2014
I know it is a work in progress and I see your point about the players finally all being here, but that lineup is ridiculous as you have 3 guys out of position.
What are you talking about? Saric cant play sg and Noel at SF is about the dumbest thing ever posted here.
That line up needs to be tweaked JH.
It’ll definitely be tweaked Diddy
I was just putting out there this is what 3 years of tanking and trades has done. We have a bevy of lottery picks on this roster and we have more coming this year
Having 6 big men is a good problem to have
Looks like they’re gonna trade one of them. Either Okafor or Noel.
The Sixers will probably trade into the top 5, that’s just the feeling im getting. Whether it’s pick 2, 3, 4 or 5..
I think it’ll be Okafor because they like Noel’s athleticism and defensive prowess. We have to keep in mind what kind of league this is now, more ball movement, athleticism, shooting, speed etc
I would try to make it work with who we have and add Simmons and a gang of shooters and a legit scorer.
But it’s not happening..
I agreed with Cliff we’ve both been on the Simmons train for some time now while he was still in HS
This is a no brainer, draft Simmons
It’s funny, when Lebron and Melo came out there was a debate on who should go 1 overall, some felt Melo because he was a better shooter and natural scorer coming out and others said Lebron because he was a facilitator and all around great talent.
Looks like the guys that went with the pure scorer/shooter mantra was WRONG!!!
GO WITH SIMMONS
“we’ve both been on the Simmons train for some time now while he was still in HS” any and everyone who followed college hoops, the nba, the nba draft were on the simmons train when he was in highschool. the fuck you talking about ?
I’m not on here much Henski, but previously I don’t recall you talking much about Ben Simmons a year or 2 ago.
I remember me and Cliff would talk about Simmons on here.
But it’s not about that so Idk why you even brought it up Mr. Technical
It’s about what the Sixers are gonna do to improve this roster. Get Simmons and try and get either pick two or three in addition to 1st overall by trading Okafor
I think they’d try and draft Kris Dunn with that additional pick..
So a couple of things…
1) stop it with the trading of Okafor who is a proven NBA commodity for the Gym all star Embiid who hasn’t even played one minute in the NBA. It would be completely reckless to trade Okafor right now and rely on the fact that A) Embiid can actually play and B) that he can stay healthy for a full seson
2) per your plan Simmons is going to be the distributor in the offense and potentially even play PG (which I don’t agree with). If that was the case, then why would you draft another PG and not only that but a PG who can’t shoot. If you draft Simmons, then you need to start adding guys who can actually put the ball in the basket.
I think the (2) guys from Washington Chriss and Murray will be drafted higher than most think, throw in Malachi. They may need a little time but I think will be all stars at some point
Sixer GM Bryan Colangelo had the first overall pick once in 2006 in Toronto as the GM and selected Andre Bargnani.( Lemarcus Aldridge went 2nd overall. )
2006 -1st Andre Bargnani
2007 – trade 11th pick for Al Harrington
2008 – trade 17th pick for Jermaine O’neal
2009 – 9th Demar Derozan
2010 – 13th Ed Davis
2011 – 5th Jonas Valanciunas
2012 – 8th Terrence Ross
2013 – traded 12th pick for Kyle Lowry
Bryan Colangelo was also the GM of the Phoenix Suns from 1995- 2006 but his father and Phoenix Owner Jerry Colangelo was probably the real GM.
Anyone saying Ingram over Simmons is nuts. Players with his combo of size and skill are once in a generation. Don’t complicate things just take the best player which is clearly Simmons. The jumper will come that’s not an issue.
We are still going to be a lottery team next year when their are a plethora of beastly wing prospects coming out. You can get a player like Ingram almost every year but not one like Simmons. I’ve seen all of the players in this class since HS and there is no one even close to Simmons. On that note GMC you should have told your “son” to stay in school. He’s not an nba player at this point, he’s just a good athlete with no skills whatsoever. I’m seeing him projected top 5 in some mocks which is ludicrous. And don’t get me started on that bum thon maker smh.
It’d be nice if the sixers could grab Malik Beasley and/or Malachi with those two late first rounders but that won’t happen. I’d be happy with Beasley. He’s my sleeper of this draft. You heard it here first.
Olajuwon has the dream shake,
Kareem has the sky hook,
and Nowitzki has the fade away jumper.
To suggest Brandon Ingram has the fade away jumper is the sign of a dingbat. GMCliff you are that dingbat.
LOL!!…..I don’t hear that from anyone else except you, and your many personalities on here. If I’m a dingbat in YOUR eyes – I’m cool with that.
I’m not just referring to his fade away. I’m talking about his overall skill set; It is exactly like Dirk’s…
Dirk’s outside shot – doesn’t always use his fade away. For me only a dingbat would be so shortsighted to limit his game to a fade away – but that’s you…
Dirk can bring the ball up court with his handle.
Dirk can play in the low post, and cause mismatches because of his size…
That’s Ingram’s ceiling – I don’t think he is all that and this argument is a mute issue.
But I think you’re saying you’re going to put your name on Ingram – Am I right??? It would be the first time since Stephon Tuitt
FYI – That’s a ding bat – always critical with no backbone to put his money where his mouth is. My track record speaks for itself, as far as the success of prospects year after year – ask all those D’Angelo Russell lovers last year; This thing with Brandon Ingram, will be the same thing with the same results.
Dirk Nowitski is one of the slowest players in the NBA, He is a turtle he always has been. He does not bring the ball up the court ever, he is too slow. He has an unstoppable shot. His release point is so high no one can block it especially when he fades away. It is his shot. Andrew Wiggens has a similar high release point but Wiggens goes straight up. I really like Wiggens shot in the Paint, It is unblockable. Ingram has a 45 degree angle release point. I like Ingram’s shot on floaters and back board drives. I’m not endorsing Ingram over Simmons. I’ve never seen Ingram play man to man defense, Duke played a zone. I see how weak Ingram is plus I don’t know if his feet move well enough to defend Wade, George or Hayward. I’ve only seen Ben Simmons play once and it was last summer at the Hoops Summit by Nike. I thought he looked like Josh Smith. From the one video on Youtube I saw of his LSU highlights I noticed that he can only score if he dribbles forward usually off a right hand dribble. I don’t think either will bust out. It is a win/ win. They both will score in the NBA but Simmons needs dribbles to score like Wade and Lebron. Sixers have zero dribble drive penetrating players on their team so Simmons best strength is the Sixers biggest weakness. Today I would draft Simmons because his best skill is the Sixers biggest weakness.
You never answered the question mouth…
But I think you’re saying you’re going to put your name on Ingram – Am I right???
Its a no-brainer…grab Simmons….the kid has got tools…skills, can pass, can score on the inside…can play multiple positions….his shot will be improved as he works on it….grab the talent and go with it…
It’s just that simple Breezy….
A Shooting Thursday afternoon outside of Howard High in Wilmington,Del resulting in another senseless death for a Teenager and Community…
Prayers Go Out …
that community is beyond prayers… killington
what happened at Howard High, was this a stray bullet ?
an escalating fight gone terribly wrong? or
an assassination a targeted murder ?
Details not in, however the description in the paper sounds like option #3. It was walking home for school …SPECULATION, and only speculation… again, EMPHASIZE SPECULATION… somehow retaliation for the girl a couple weeks ago. read delawareonline.com
When Gm cliff graduated from Howard in either 1980 or 1986 (depending on who he wants to convince you he played ball with) it was a very good city school…
I believe Cliff was 1980 as he is closer to my age.. (I was 1981)
I agree Paul … I’m 80 and he and I had a conversation that we were the same age. Yet the other day he said he played ball with AJ who graduated in 86…. Think if was another example of the guy making stuff up…
Whether Cliff graduated in ’80 or ’86 he is obviously part of the problem in Wilmington, as an adult he influences & encourages the settlement of differences with guns. He threatened me multiple times with the use of a gun.
I stay fit by boxing too.
Would you prefer I knock your teeth out of your mouth??
Or nail you underneath you tongue so you can’t talk anymore??
or maybe close both your eyes so you won’t see what’s written on GCobb, and won’t be too anxious to speak sarcastically about my children???
I’m not a naturally violent man, but being from Wilmington, I am a product of my environment, and I know how to deal with disrespectful individuals like yourself.
All I’m saying to you is I’m not to be played with, and if you ever take it too far with me – like when you talked about coming to my house, and disrespecting me in front of my Children, and Grandchildren – I will deal with you.
Some people don’t know the difference between Kindness, and Patience.
oh, I believe 100% that you are an extremely dangerous mentally disturbed person … & a dingbat too.
Whatever. But you and I have an understanding. Don’t ever take it too far with me chump. Only a dingbat wouldn’t understand leaving well enough alone.
This dingbat gets it right, and knows what he’s talking about.
what understanding? I reject to participate in your fantasy find a son NBA mock draft. Pull the finger out of your nose, wash it with some soap and tell your real family that you love them and quit the nonsense mock draft find a family fantasy league.
Reading is fundamental. You better understand…
My family, and I know who my children are. We’re not concerned with the opinions of a jealous nobody on a blog, who can’t accept it….tough, get over it.
I’m sorry your sperm doesn’t have the DNA TO PRODUCE SOMETHING OF VALUE to the world.
Ciggy, I graduated in 88. AJ graduated in 86. I played with him my Freshman, and Sophomore Years. Nothing needs to be made up. – except working for the Rams…lol
My biological connections to my sons aren’t made up either. You won’t find that evidence on Wikipedia – You will only find in on their birth certificates, and in Courthouse records.
There is nothing to lie about, but whether you view it as a lie or not, doesn’t change the fact it’s the truth. Anyone who really knows me, already knows that.
BTW Ciggy, My religion is more secure than yours, and legitimate. I hope you don’t find that out the hard way…you can refrain from anymore comments about it, until you learn facts about it, and not just your uneducated inaccuracies, and personal opinions.
Cliff I don’t have a religion…. But I’ve read up on yours cuckoo for cocoa puffs… Damn, Christ has already been resurrected but it was invisible? Yikes! And all non-Jehovah’s will be victim of genocide while 144000 of you guys sit around and have all the fun… Damn, hope they come knocking on my door today!
Hey Cliff, did you Play with AJ on that 1985 State Champion Team?
@ Ciggy – like I said when you get some accurate education on us we’ll have a conversation – You’re not there even reasonably, but that is to be expected when some are just critical for no reason.
@ Paul, Yes, but I wasn’t a starter, and I played more JV in 85′. Most of those guys were 2-3 year starters on a Delaware perennial basketball powerhouse. I had to guard AJ everyday in practice. Best player/athlete I’ve ever seen, and the sweetest Jump shot in the country.
ok cliff …truce– but you did tell me one time about working as a chef at a certain restaurant in like 82… but moving on.
You did bring up something that peaked my interest– we have all played sports so who was the BEST player you ever played against????? chime in Gcobbers..
Baseball– coached against Delino Deshields Sr. who played I think 13 years in MLB– actually could have played hoops at nova and football anywhere
Basketball- Terrance Stansbury played in NBA and won a slam dunk contest
Football- Frank Cephas — gave me multiple concussions (they called it ‘rung my bell’)= RB went to UCLA and drafted by the Giants.
I have never stated I worked as a chef in 82…never.
Howard is a vocational school. At that time, a lot of us had the credits we needed to be eligible for co-op- working seculiarly full time, while going to school part of our Jr year, and our entire sr year…..
I took culinary arts, and did an apprenticeship at the hotel DuPont, and was also able to earn credits for my associates degree at both , Johnson & Wales, and the Culinary Institute of America. I continued to work at the Country Club two more years and do online schooling, until also received my Bachelors.
Best to you trying to find me talking about working in 82, when I never stated that.
I’ll tell you….. what is your real name Ciggy??
Howard one year 86′ played – Chester, Simon Gratz, DeMatha, Oak Hill, Va, and Apollo High in Kentucky on the same schedule, and the best player I played against outside of AJ in Delaware were – Rex Chapman, Brian Shorter, Sam Cassel, and Aaron McKie.
Haveacigar — went right over Cliff’s head. Delino Deshields Sr.was such an amazing player. Arguably the best athlete in Delaware in the 80s’. No way he played basketball in the state of Delaware for 3 out of the 4 years as Deshields time and he skips over it without stopping to give respect like you just did. no way.
Shut up E0S….Nothing went over my head. His question was who was the best player I PLAYED AGAINST….Where did you see in my response that I didn’t know Bop…..That’s his nickname. You’re not even from Delaware. Why are you talking at all…You don’t know what you’re talking about as usual.
So anxious to prove me a liar – and you never will – that you’re making an ass of yourself.
Howard never played Seaford at all from 84′-88′. We would have met up with Seaford had we not lost to Sanford in the semi-finals of 86, in a controversial game when the crowd kept running onto the court. I was there at Newark high playing in that game…..
Point is I never played against Delino Deshields. I’ve seen him play, but because Seaford is a down state school, that wasn’t on the regular.
He got a Basketball scholarship from Villanova, but got drafted by the Montreal Expos out of High School in the 1st round; Instant Millionaire. how do you assume I’m not aware of who he is??
E0S, GET A LIFE LOSER!!! My life is obviously better than yours, and my children are 50 times talented, than any children you have , or may ever make with that micro vessel you call a muscle. YOU’RE WRONG!!!!
Cliff you lie about everything. Remember you tried to tell me you have a MBA from University of Illinois, bwahahahaha. You lied about that, you lied about all the various colleges and occupations that never in a million years would accept you. You may have seen Howard High School play basketball games sometime in your life but you never participated. You never played.
GMCliff -Oh how the tiny have fallen — The starting point at your fantasy apex was you claiming to be a NFL Scout for the St. Louis Rams and a college basketball player for the University of Illinois to now being discredited as even a junior varsity basketball player at Howard High.
Just further proof of your not knowing what you’re talking about….that’s what you should laugh at.
The Chester High vs Howard game was televised. Aaron Gosa, and Joe Carson were suspended for 2 games. AJ English, and I started in the backcourt that game. AJ had 44 points, and I had 17 points, and 7 assist. We beat them by 21. Then they tried to turn our bus over. You should stop talking. you sound like an ignorant ass.
I have ALL the education I say……..what have you accomplished?????
I don’t think he is a violent guy… He is narcissistic,he lies,he believes in a fairy religion but isn’t violent. He is a good man…. Just a bit kooky… He would not hurt a fly
and don’t forget 85% correct on all these prospects.
call me what you want , just make sure you give credit where credit is due, and refrain from being so petty when it’s proven.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CW2UD9JfaA
I believe we need to think further outside the top 5-10 box regarding trades with other teams
If you happen to hear Bryan Colangelo the other day on the radio, he said with a guy like Simmons you need a non ball dominate pg to go with him and his skill set.
That got me thinking
He also said that they’ve been in discussions not only with the teams in the top 10 but also with teams “still playing” in the playoffs regarding trades
So that certainly broadens the spectrum so to speak…
Kylie Irving? Russell Westbrook? No telling..
I don’t see Okafor here I think he’ll be traded and I’m thinking Noel may be gone as well..
It’s gonna get interesting leading up to the draft
I see a lot of UCLA cuts and Iverson Cuts to get Simmons the ball, at least that is what I would do.
Charlotte has Batum, Williams and Lin all in free agency and had Kidd Gilgrist on the trading block at the deadline. New Orleans is looking to free themselves of some or all their guards.
Draymond Green stands in a lot of the Strong Motion positional plays Nerlans Noel runs in Brett Browns strong motion plays. Insert Saric or Simmons at the top of the Key where Nerlans keeps catching the ball and passing it to the other side. Every time Draymond Green shoots a 3pointer in the playoffs or drives to the basket from the top of the key that is what Nerlans turns down 10 to 15 times a game. . Embiid, Simmons and Saric are going to shoot from those spots or at least create offense from there. Where as Nerlans just passes the ball from side to side.
Lebron flopping, diving and acting game 3 yesterday in Canada. He flopped for a Lowry rebound foul feel 5 feet foward on all fours,
he flopped trying to get a tech foul on Carroll falling backwards 10 feet sliding on his rear end,
and he collapsed on a Biyombo lane drive for a flagrent foul. Begging the refs to bale his team out. What a sham and a horrible sportsman.
gmcliff
May 20, 2016 – 10:43 pm
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Ciggy, I graduated in 88. AJ graduated in 86. I played with him my Freshman, and Sophomore Years. Nothing needs to be made up. – except working for the Rams…lol
I was at University of Illinois for 2 semesters. I received a walk on scholarship, but I couldn’t handle the competition. I was able to continue what I set out to do, by working on my MBA Online – which I still have today hanging on my wall in my office thank you very much – while I attended Florida International, and earned my Sports Management PhD.
again, WHAT have you accomplished??????…..lol
Illinois was stacked with Talent inthe late 80’s with Nick Anderson, Turner Gill, Bardo and some Big Guys who I can’t recall their names.. They were Tops in the Big 10 and Nationally during that golden time of College Basketball .. Sweet Lou Henson as their Head Coach..
I lived in Indianapolis from 1987 thru 1993 and saw a lot of Big 10 B-Ball with all those great Teams, Players & Coach’s and I pulled for Purdue who had Glenn Robinson who was my favorite Player back then . Purdue vs Indiana, Illinois ,Mich State & Michigan were all Great Games back then…
I roomed with Marcus Liberty, who was the #1 high school player in the nation the year I graduated…
I forgot about Marcus Liberty… What a Name.. Whatever happened to him, they had a lot of their Players make it to the NBA .. Lou Hensongot a lot of Chicago City kids to Illinois and they have never been the same since ther fired him.. They had a couple of good Seasons with Guard Deron Williams but that’s about it recently ..
I haven’t heard from Marcus for sometime. Last time I spoke to him he was playing overseas somewhere.
I talk to Nick all the time. I introduced him to his wife who is also from Wilmington, Delaware. She was a track star here.
Deron Williams never played with them. Kendall Gill was the point guard when I was there, and Steve Bardo was the Shooting Guard. Both of them are in sports broadcasting.
I was only there physically for a little more than a semester before the basketball season started. When I left, my spot was given to a guy named Rodney Jones. He was big dude from Philly.
My buddy Lowell Hamilton lives in Atlanta . I stay in pretty close touch with them. But you know, the critics have seen my phone bill, so that can’t be true.
right?….laughable.
Deron Williams went to Illinois and left after the 2005 Season and was Drafted by the Utah Jazz.. I merely brought him up for that’s the last time that the Fighting Illini had good Teams after those great Teams of the mid-late 80’s
Thry have been at or near the bottom of the Big Ten in recent Years
Yeah, Paul, but that wasn’t in 1988-89 though when all those guys were there buddy. Those were a great bunch of guys that I am proud to call friends.
Maybe you mis-read my post Cliff, I know Deron Williams didn’t play back in the 80’s, I merely mentioned him for when he played were the last real good Illinois Teams that once was a very Proud & Competitive Program
Living in Indianapolis in the late 80’s/early 90’s I followed the Big 10 very closely for all the Teams that were out my way back then were good Teams..
I got you Paul. I did mis-read it.
I think the football team is on probation, or under investigation right now. I enjoyed myself when I was there.
Why isn’t being you good enough?
I am being me…answer the question…
again, WHAT have you accomplished??????…..
After 3 years I finally “ACCOMPLISHED ” getting you to admit you were never that NFL St Louis scout comment yesterday and today. Exposing you as a dingbat is easy but actually getting you to admit you are a dingbat took 3 years. I accept your admission and white flag of defeat.
Score one for the good guys.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwse_gwn_PY
LOL!!!!….You feel you’ve accomplished something. You’re the only one calling me a dingbat – but you think I should be concerned???…sounds like you’re the dingbat to me.
GmCliff is educated, decorated as an athlete, and a better judge of talent than even the so- called experts – In spite of the lonely opinions of an obsessed, jealous dingbat who has accomplished nothing in life, nor offspring to be proud of….congratulations
So, I’ll ask again, ….What have you accomplished loser????….lol!!!!!!!!!!
Cliff you’ve admitted that you LIED about the nfl scouting thing. The other stuff is in question, including your graduation year…. I guarantee if you graduated in 88 you lied to me a year or so back. Your credibility is in question
Look, I don’t want to get into the middle of this, but I must say, over the past few years I have read that GMCliff has diabetes, heart problems, cancer, was a superstar athlete, an NFL scout, a chef, has fathered 72 NBA superstars, is dying, has died, was resurrected, and is seated at the right hand of the father.
Its a little weird.
LMAO
Ciggy, I’m still waiting fore you to find the post you’re hanging your opinion on. If it exist you can easily find it. But you won’t because I NEVER told you that.
I graduated in 1988 from Howard High. Get over it. Just because you’re mistaken doesn’t mean I lied. Outside of the Rams, it’s all true believe it or not, doesn’t matter to me. It is what it is.
This clown E0S asks me ” Why isn’t being you good enough?”. This coming from a guy who has posted under more aliases than the Government, but thinks I’m a dingbat, and couldn’t recognize the pattern of criticism coming from all these artificial posting names was really him.
I’m secure in who I am.
That’s why I was asking what your real name was. Because of who I am, I would know if you really coached against Bop – Delino Deshields, or played against Terrance Stansbury. I still have connections that would be able to verify that.
Norman Oliver – Newark High graduate – is a councilman or something here, along with my cousin Sherry Dorsey for the city of Wilmington. Sherry’s running for Lt. Governor. My cousin Wayne Jefferson played against Stansbury, My cousin Bob Black, and my boy Mark Harris from Sanford played against Delino, and many others with insight.
Stansbury, is way older than I am, but I’ve seen him play in plenty of Inner City pick up games. I remember some of those cats couldn’t wait until he went home, because he was posterizing everybody who tried him.
What is your real name sir?? I’d like to verify a few things about you – if you don’t mind…….
****76ers News****
76ers are reportedly working out the Top 5 Prospects for the Upcoming Draft
(Ben Simmons,Brandon Ingram,Jamal Murray, Kris Dunn and Dragan Bender)
There is also Rumors about the 76ers Trading Back, possibly with the Lakers who really covet Ben Simmons and would be willing to Part with Guard D’Angelo Russell and a Future 1st Round Pick …
Let’s say the 76ers Trade Back to #2 and get Russell, then Draft Ingram at #2 and Field a Starting Team of Russell, Ingram, Saric, Okafor & Embiid with Noel,Covington,Grant, Ish Smith all coming off the Bench for the 2nd Unit .. This may not be a bad way to go…..
There are also rumblings about Phoenix Suns and 76ers Talking about swapping out Picks — 76ers Trade back to #4 and get Phoenix Guard Eric Bledsoe or Brandon Knight with Future 1st Round Picks and use the #4 Pick to Draft either Guards Murray, Dunn or Big Man Bender… Lots of possibilities..
Simmons is coming o Philadelphia. All this other stuff is simply pre-draft window dressing. The only mystery here for me is what jersey # Simmons will be issued.
#25 Eagle!!
There might only be 3 or 4 players off last years roster on this years team. Bryan Colangelo isn’t associated with any of these guys.
Ish Smith has the best chance to remain but TJ McConnell & Kendall Marshall are goners at the PG position.
Canann and Stauskas are horrible, both gone at SG.
SF Hollis Thompson, Jeremi Grant, and Robert Covington ( Hollis Thompson gets cut, Either Grant or Covington will be added as a secondary piece in the impending Center trade and one will stay)
PF Elton Brand and Christian Woods both Gone. Carl Landry will be offered in every trade discussion they have, I think somehow some team accept him. Nerlans, Okafor and Embiid. ( all 3 won’t be here)
Forgot about Rashaun Holmes, He could be a toss in on any trades that happen when the Sixers trade one of their Centers.
The Sixers aren’t trading their #1 pick. It will be Simmons.
You totally overvalue Jamal Murray.
The only player the Sixers should trade is Noel -.I know he doesn’t have the trade value as Okafor, but he doesn’t have to for me to get what we need, and it isn’t Ingram, Murray, Bledsoe, D’Angelo Russell, or any other overrated player that doesn’t have half the talent of Okafor.
That’s why they are called Rumor’s Cliff, on a Slow News Day…
In other Unrelated News, the Price of Gold Dropped $1.50 per Bar bringing the Cost Down to $1,251.40 for Today for all my Future & Speculator Friends out there
cliff this is a blog– a blog where sometimes i or others may drink too much, say a few things they shouldn’t… i’ll keep my identity where it is. Those are the guys at the tops of their games when I was a young man. I wasn’t as good or nearly as any of them– I ended my time in hoops as a sophomore in hs, was on the freshman football squad at UD, then went and played baseball— I was a utilty player mostly– then I coached for a long time in delaware- football and baseball mostly but dabbled in some of the minor sports to help out etc.
UH HUH……..
My Cousin Mark Played at U Of Delaware in the late 70’s on a Scholarship from Bishop Eustace Prep (Pennsauken,NJ) .. He tore his Knee up Sophomore Year and was never the Same.. A good Jump-Shot…
My other Cousin Donnie (and Mark’s Older Brother) played RB and played for Widener during the Mid-70’s and played with and behind Billy White Shoes Johnson back in the Day..
haha, I got you Paul..
This comment section is just so weird. I miss koolbreeze making a moron out of himself 24/7
***76ers Rumors****
Ben Simmons and his Family/Agents want Los Angeles and not Philadelphia and could very well test the NBA Draft System by Refusing to Play for the 76ers, kind of like what Eli Manning and Agents/Family did in the NFL with not wanting to Play for San Diego and demanding/forcing a Trade…
It is no Slam-Dunk that Simmons end up being Drafted by the 76ers at #1
Nah dude
Obviously, you missed the interview of his coach at LSU on 97.5 the fanatic this afternoon. That wanting to be in LA stuff, is totally untrue. He said, either, an agent, or even perhaps the Lakers may be behind pushing that, so Philly would be turned off from drafting him.
Johnny Jones, said he is a once, in a lifetime player, even more so than Brandon Ingram. Everything the Sixers want to achieve as an organization – Starts with Simmons.
I’m not trying to hear it. Simmons WILL be in a Philadelphia 76ers uniform – not Brandon Ingram – Count on it.
Paul, did you see Brett Brown give the thumbs down signal after we won the drat Lottery??….He was giving it to Ingram who was in attendance – Rather symbolic.
Bullshit Paulman you old fool your chronic and intense alcohol abuse has left you rambling about nonsense. It’s ok your suffering from ARBD which causes blackouts and memory lapses and a host of other brain crippling issues. Talk to your doctor about thiamine side effects include vomiting,nausea,sweating, itching and impotence (which you had before becoming an around the clock boozer).
Ben enough said
Does anyone else have the feeling Coangelo is going to fuck this up.
My Sources have the Colangelos now making a payback to the NBA for Bryan Colangelo getting the 76ers Job to begin with and trading back to either the Lakers ( which the NBA & Ben Simmons want) or to a trade back to #4 to their former Team, the Phoenix Suns..
The Colangelo’s are not Philly People or tied to the Fan Base here locally
I believe they are going to make a Deal
YOU ARE NOT A PHILLY PEOPLE!!!! OR TIED TO THE FAN BASE HERE- you don’t watch the games on a regular basis by your own admission.
and PaulHARTman doesnt have sources either
Paul, are you serious??
Not going to happen. Simmons is our guy.
Make a deal to get Jimmy Butler in here, get a point guard – not named Mike Conley – I hate his game with a passion.
you know paul just posting whatever pops into his head with no truth to it. example – him saying ben hogan is tearing it up at chiefs camp prior to chiefs camp even starting…
and bulls arent moving butler
Ben Hogan?? You mean Kevin Hogan??
Bulls have been looking to move Jimmy Butler for the right deal Big Mhenski. Whether he would come to Philly would depend on the same thing.
Are you telling me that you wouldn’t want Jimmy Butler????
Jimmy Butler of the Bulls is not going anywhere, they will be re-building their Franchise Around him…. Guards Derick Rose and Forward Joakim Noah will probably be moved this Off-Season
Kevin Hogan is the QB that the Chiefs Drafted and was lighting it up during their Rookie OTA Camp a couple of weeks back and since Mhenski doesn’t like Hogan, he had to chime in..
I would take Guard Mike Conley every day on my Team , he’s way better than what is on the 76ers Current Roster by far…
Bulls backup Center Noah is a free agent. So is their starting Center Pau Gasol. Any trade talk coming out of Chicago about Butler is probably from him not the Bulls. The coaching change was a disaster, missed playoffs. He isn’t happy about the direction of the bulls took from playoff team to lottery.
No Paul he wasn’t lighting anything up because Chiefs otas hadn’t started. Bizarro world – why would you just make something up like that ? So strange
Exactly cliff might as well call him nick hogan.
No I’d want him. I’m just telling u the Bulls aren’t moving him. He is their future. They’ll move that cripple rose but not him and I’m really scared to death this jackass gm and organization will make a foolish play for rose.
Yes Daggolden, I do….
The guy hasn’t won anything, and I don’t trust him.
Pick Ben, get rid of Noel, lets rock…..
I am no fan of Colangelo at all I had a bad feeling when he was hired, and I still haven’t been able to shake it. The only positive I see in this situation is that Hinkie left the team almost idiot proof. It’s so easy to improve this team even a caveman can do it. So even though I really don’t like Colangelo I think he should at least be able to not mess it up at least right away.
Eagles OC Frank Reich said calling Sam Bradford the clear No. 1 quarterback is “probably not the right impression.”
This contradicts what coach Doug Pederson has said all along, that Bradford is “the guy” at quarterback, seemingly locking him in as the starter. “No, that’s probably not the right impression,” Reich said when asked if Bradford is the clear No. 1. “This is one of the most competitive industries in the world and so, to say that there’s not competition, that’s just the furthest thing from the truth.” Odds are still heavily favoring Bradford to start Week 1 thanks to his hefty salary, but if rookie Carson Wentz blows up this preseason, it’s going to be hard to keep him off the field. May 25 – 10:15 AM
Source: 94 WIP Philadelphia
I think guaranteeing a guy a starting nfl job in january through august is really saying they are number one on the chart– clearly sam is number 1 but obviously in this business you have to be better at the start of the season- he also said he competed with jim kelly every day he just never beat him out….
elliot saying wentz has been the best qb so far… wonder if thats why the narrative from the eagles is changing
Colangelo is highly overrated and he got the job from his Daddy. I am very worried that he is going to do something stupid like trade Okafor before they have seen Embiid play one game in the NBA. What is the GD rush? Let’s see how both big men progress before we ship one out. I know that they probably won’t be able to co-exist long term, but that doesn’t mean you send one out for a guy like Dunn who I was in favor of before they seem to be drafting Simmons. You can’t add another guy who can’t shoot and hope that he develops his shot like they always do.
They are probably going to be bad again this year because they have no one that can shoot or really handle the ball.
i just dont understand the infatuation with Dunn. I see this dude slipping towards the bottom of the 1st 10 to go maybe even further. dude is average across the board except for his jumper which is below average. guard wise you have to take buddy and murray over him imo
The interest in Dunn is obvious. The Sixers don’t have a top 60 NBA point guard on their roster. Jerry Colangelo couldn’t evaluate the Sixers roster because they couldn’t run an offense when he arrived. The First thing Colangelo did was to find any player that could enter the lane on the dribble to evaluate the rest to the team. Ish Smith was that player. Ish Smith was cut from the Charlotte Hornets training camp before the season and was the 3rd or 4th string PG on the New Orleans Pelican roster when the Sixers traded for him. Every NBA team has 2 to 3 point guards on their roster better than what the Sixers have. Canaan, McConnell and Marshall don’t belong in the NBA.
Kris Dunn is high on Teams Radar for he’s one of the Few True PG’s in this Draft… J Murray from Kentucky and Buddy Heild from Oklahoma are not True PG,s but rather more of Shooting Guards and will likely play the #2 Spot in hte NBA and not the #1 Position
Players can always become better shooter’s with time and work put in, which Kris Dunn must do to if he ever wants to become a very good to elite NBA Player, but he has Size,Strength, Court Vision, Ball Handling,Passing Skills and Leadership to make those around him better.. He can Run an Offense, Play Defense and can Defend the Ball which are all things the 76ers are very deficient in…
Jamall Murray is nowhere near the Ball Handler that Kris Dunn is.. Its not even Close… Tyler Ulis actually Ran the Offense at Kentucky and not Murray
who plays the #2
Same with Buddy Heild at Oklahoma who played the #2 Position (Shooting Guard) and had JOrdan Woodard and Isiah COusins play the PG Position for the Sooners
There’s a Big Difference between PG & SG just like there is with SF and a PF and lumping all Guards in this Draft Class as PG’s is incorrect..
The 76ers, first and foremost need a True PG.. You can always find Shooters
I’d be interested to know Jay Wright’s opinion on Dunn’s NBA future? I heard Jay Wright thinks Hield is just a role player rotation guy not a feature player.
Dunn is a turnover machine, careless with the rock and cant shoot for shit. Have you ever watched the dude play? saying murrays ball handling is nowhere close to Dunns is false. everyone on gods green earth knows the difference between sg and pg. fact is sixers need both and a sf. so if we filling a guard need go the better players – murray and hield. dunn aint shit and is never gonna be shit in the nba. hes a more athletic mcw – good D and everything else is average on his best day. pass on drafting a pg that cant shoot and turns the ball over – you can find them anywhere bro. and your statement that you can find shooters anywhere is also false
Yeah I know the type of player that Dunn is which is a pass first PG, but if you are going to have Simmons facilitate the offense, then it would behoove you to have a combo guard for both 1 and 2, like GS does.
And you cannot always find shooters Pman. That is a completely untrue. As is “he can always develop his shot”. It is complete BS. A lot of teams don’t have good shooters on their squad and most guys don’t spontaneously develop a jump shot. The 6ers have consistently undervalued guys that can shoot and they have paid for it for a while now. They have had no one that can make a shot to end the game for a long time now.
There is no way that Mhenski is suggesting that Murray play PG here either or Hield. Neither of those guys is PG. Mhenski is saying draft for upside and need at the same time, because Dunn is good, but he is the same level prospect as Murray (if not below) and the Sixers need a GD 2 guard who shoot.
If they follow your plan they have this:
PG : Dunn. Can’t shoot
SG: No one
SF: Simmons. Can’t shoot
PF: Noel. Cripes can’t shoot
C: Embiid. Can shoot against 45 years in practice assuming he doesn’t get hurt.
Maybe Saric can shoot, but I will wait to see him play in the NBA first. I think that they will play a lot more inside out with the big men, so you want 1-2 guys on the perimeter that can shoot. That ain’t gonna come from Simmons so that leaves your 2 guards.
spot on bugs on all points. paul just dont get it…
Ben Simmons is a PF, he won’t play SF. They will start Covington there next season.
This is the first year Saric’s 3 pointer has been dropping, previous year it was 30% He is currently 40% from 3pt (29-72) in 24 games which is about 3 attempts per game. The Euro league 3pt. line is in between the NBA and NCAA so it is a shorter shot than the NBA. His free throw % is 93% about 2 attempts a game. So he doesn’t cause fouls. One trip per game.
Saric is 6’10” but has short arms so is height isn’t functional. He can barely dunk a basketball, no explosion. His lateral quickness and back pedal is below average. ( like Furkan Aldemir) What Saric does well is he understands floor spacing. He is always in good position offensively and defensively. He can lead a fast break off a rebound. His mid range game is very good. So if his man double teams guard penetration he will hit the open 10 foot jump shot consistently, you can not leave him. He cannot defend NBA SFs or athletic PF like Anthony Davis, Blake Griffen, or Thad Young. But should hold his own against the rest of PF to be a slightly below average defender. His ability to play in the NBA is making open shots. (3 pointers and 10 foot jumpers) His shot will routinely get rejected on layup attempts because he plays below the rim.
If Dunn improves his Shooting % by 4-5%, he becomes a 10 Year All-Star in the NBA.. He’s 6-3″ – 205lbs with the frame to put on 8-12lbs in 2 Years Time
Over the last 2 Seasons – Kris Dunn Played 66 Games and was Named Big-East Player of the Year the last 2 Seasons (2014-2015 & 2015-2016)
The 76ers Need 3 Types of Guards on their Roster
1) A Pure PG, – Run the Offense, Distribute the Ball in the PRoper Places which helps the Big Men become better Scorers
2) A Shooting Guard – A Pure Shooter who Stretches the Defense, Puts Fear in Teams and that can SHoot from Beyond the Arc
3) A Lock Down Defender to limit Opposing Guards who have had Career Games versus the 76ers the last couple of Seasons …
Can Kris Dunn fill in their #1 & #3 Need ?? I think He Can….
He Shot 46% Overall from the Field (369 for 801)
His 3 Point Shooting % was 36% (69 for 190)
Free-Throw Shooting % is 69%
He had 453 Assists (6.9 Per Game)
He had 356 Rebounds (5.4 Rebounds Per Game)
Averages 2.6 Steals Per Game
Commits an Average of 3.7 Turnovers Per Game
Let’s Say the 76er’s take Simmons at #1
Then Trade Jhalil Okafor to the Celtics or Suns and Draft PG Kris Dunn with that Pick along with getting a Veteran Guard back from the Celtics/Suns (Marcus Smart or Brandon Knight)
Then at #24/#26 – Select SG Malik Beasley of Fla State, SG Wade Baldwin of Vanderbilt, SG Patrick MCCaw of UNLV or PG Demetrius Jackson of Notre Dame to start grooming other Young Guards with Dunn
76ers could have a Line-Up of
PG Kris Dunn
SG Veteran Guard from either the Celtics or Suns (Brandon Knight or a Marcus Smart)
SF Ben Simmons
PF Dario Saric
Center Joel Embiid
Bench Ish Smith, R Covington, Nerlens Noel, Jeremie Grant, Richaun Holmes and the 2 Draft Picks at #24 & #26
Could always look to add a Free-Agent or Two
SG Nicolas Batum
PG Cortney Lee
SG Jordan Clarkson
SG Shaun Livingston
Nobody who can shoot. Saric will foul out of every game attempting to guard the 4s on other teams or he will be a liability at the 4. Smart and Knight also do nothing for this team long term.
The guys you list for later in the first round are just not going to be difference makers at SG. And why would you take another PG in the first round if you drafted Dunn?
Paul, what is with your love for Marcus Smart – There is NOTHING special about him. We don’t need him on this team. Why do you think Ainge wants to get rid of him?? – He wasn’t the player he thought he was.
I’ll say it again. It is dumb to trade Okafor. I don’t want to see any roster with Nerlens Noel on it for the Sixers. He was never what some were exaggerating he is.
If many thought that Noel could improve on his Offense – because he is 19, he will grow into his body, he can only get better – or whatever excuse many had for him. Then we can be just as patient, forgiving, and optimistic when it comes to Okafor(19) – who is the superior talent to Noel – Please stop it…
Ulis, and Jamal Murray are future bench role players – for Ulis, his may be his hype before the draft. I don’t see an NBA Player. I think many in this draft will be out of the league sooner than later.
Clarkson is a name I would be interested in. I wouldn’t mind both he, and Jimmy Butler in our backcourt.
You can substitute any Guard from either the Celtics or Suns Cliff
Trade Okafor for one of their 2016 1st Round Draft Pick, a Guard and a Future 1st Round Draft
Celtics – Isiah Thomas, Avery Bradley, Terry Rozier or Marcus Smart
Suns – Eric Bledsoe or Brandon Knight
I wouldn’t want any of them Paul. None of them equal what I get talent wise from Okafor – nor will have even close the future potential.
The trade is dumb. They don’t need the 3rd pick in this years draft – for what Dunn??…..I’m sorry not equal value. I don’t think Ingram, and Russell would be equal value – neither come close to having his future potential.
I’m not trading Okafor at all. Only one I would trade is Noel.
Any Trade Okafor would include a Established PG and a Future 1st Round Pick I either 2017 or 2018 .. It’s not Okafor for an Average Guard and trade down Pick??
Noel’s is not returning a 1st Round Pick Cliff, he simply doesn’t have that kind of trade value around the NBA.. He’s a 15 Minute a Game solid Defender, noting more and you can find them easily
Again, I’m not trading Okafor Paul. Your trade scenario seriously weakens the talent level on this team.
I know Noel by himself isn’t going to get you a high 1st Rounder – maybe a low 1st rounder – but not a high one by himself. But we don’t have to trade Okafor, because that is the case.
You could trade Noel, the 24th, and 26th pick in the 1st this year, and the Lakers pick in 2017 to –
Portland – For CJ McCollum, and their 2018 #1
Utah – For Gordon Heyward(SG), Alec Burks(PG/SG) & their #1 this year and draft DeJounte Murray 6-5 (PG/SG) University of Washington, with that
pick. – Look to team him up with Josh Jackson, next years pick – if we can get him. – And I still have Okafor, Embiid – hopefully, and Simmons with a veteran back court that can shoot, and handle the ball.
Chicago – same trade, and add Jeremi Grant, and their #1 in 2019 for Jimmy Butler, and sign a free agent point guard like Rajon Rono. Or re-sign Ish Smith, and wait until 2017, and take a stab at trying to bring in Russell Westbrook
We don’t have to trade Okafor – especially for the trash some are suggesting.
Next years draft may have some PG & SG rated high in early projections of next years draft, but I’m not sure how many of them are as good as some think. I DO know Josh Jackson is the truth, and if the Sixers can get him sky is the limit.
Get out of here with trading Okafor for Boston, and Phoenix Garbage, and their #1’s – we already in good position with #1’s, by eventually getting to swap with Sacramento; eventually getting their pick in 2018, and still having ours. Trade Noel, and sweeten the deal.
I don’t see how Simmons & Okafor can Play together on the Floor at the same time.. WHo is going to stop anyone, rebound the ball, alter shots ?
Okafor is only 76ers with High Value so it they go Draft Simmons at #
then Okafor has to go… maybe not for 2016, but by 2017 when hopefully Embiid/Saric are 100% entrenched as NBA Players along with Simmons
Get some Good Guards and then the 76ers can start being competitive again… but having Embiid, Okafor, Noel, Simmons, Saric with crappy Guard Play means another 20-25 Win Season
I know you can’t see it. With all due respect buddy, you don’t know basketball talent.
Okafor will get better at everything you feel he isn’t strong enough – including rebounding; He’s had plenty of games where he has grabbed double digit rebounds. If you thought Noel could get better although he hasn’t – Then you have to see a superior talent in Okafor getting better at age 19 as well – You’re being hypocritical in your reasoning
What teams in the playoffs do you see that has the habit of altering shots other than Ibaka?? That petty reasoning, is what makes your argument silly. Team Defense can be played in such a way it suffocates your opponents opportunities.
You continue to think Simmons is a traditional PF – He isn’t – He’s built like a potential PF, but he will play SF in the NBA.
How did Magic, and Kareem – a traditional Old school low post player exist??. That’s what you would have with those two playing together……….and if Magic had Olajuwon that would work as well – that’s what they would have with Embiid, if he stays healthy.
Saric, isn’t changing things much either – He’ll be coming off he bench. What makes you think he’s better than he is??….You don’t know NBA Talent Paul, that’s why you can’t see it.
We do NOT have to get rid of Okafor, and I gave you other options to cover the guard positions, that are better than your suggestions – flat out.
Dunn is not a guaranteed impact star – reckless with the ball, and can’t shoot consistently well.
Murray is completely overrated, and will be coming of of someones bench because of that as a JJ Redick type 3 point specialist tops.
Marcus Smart, Isaiah Thomas, Eric Bledsoe, Brandon Knight all blow as options for the Sixers, yet you would rather have them in our backcourt than someone with more talent, and skill.
You obviously don’t see Simmons as an impact player, and would rather have Ingram – You’re wrong. I don’t want Nowitski, or Sam Perkins – I want Magic,.
Okafor is 7 feet tall, Embiid is 7-2, and Simmons is 6-10 – Who can’t grab a rebound?!?!???
None of them are worth a dime to the impact for the Sixers. Just a dumb trade.
You idiot Paulman lets’ just make a desperation trade for a pg while leaving ourselves in even bigger trouble by completely relying on a constantly injured Embiid. This draft is not deep you fool so you can’t justify the 3rd round pick nor a 1st next year on an unknown prospect for a legit big man like Okafor who can clearly play in this league.
Hey BozoDolo,
You Can’t have Ish Smith, Ben Simmons & Jhalil Okafor on the Court at the same time.. Who plays Defense for the 76ers ??
Yes boozeman that’s a great excuse your now coming up with to justify your stupidity. Give up Okafor for for a desperate attempt at your list of point guards.I get it you hate the Sixers all you do is troll the Sixers you do it so much that it’s nothing more than a game to you. That’s why you come up with these idiotic trades because you love to see real fans of the team get pissed off, and annoyed by your intentional idiotic comments and trades.
Okafor for a 2016 1st round Pick ,a 2018 1st Round Pick and an established Guard.. I see nothing wrong with this strategy… Draft Simmons at #1, Draft a Young Guard with the Pick acquired in the Draft to learn behind the established Guard and then also get a 2018 1st Round Pick from the Trade Partner…
If Embiid is the realDeal, then Okafor will have to moved anyways and waiting until next Off-Season won’t return as much Value for the 76ers…
If Embiid is no good or gets hurt again, then the 76ers will have to tear down Roster and Starr anew anyways???
the correct move is to just take ben and find minutes for everyone and not trade anyone this year unless youre getting a stud and then some… makes no sense to move oak for anything until embiids feet are on the hardwood for a season and he shows he can stay healthy and dominate the nba.
unless we are blown away you cant move our best player – okafor for some bullshit scrub like paul wants and some mysterious draft pick. hold him, lets see how this works out and who is real and who is fake, we gonna stink again, then we got a shot at josh jackson then you can trade whoever doesnt fit next year… get josh jackson to go with simmons and all of a sudden you got a real team… im just scared we gonna move oak for some loser like rose and then we are really fucked.
unfortunately I don’t think Jahlil Okafor will accept sitting on the bench silently yielding minutes to Embiid and/or Simmons. He never wanted to come to Philly in the first place.When NBA players want out and it isn’t granted they start fights making the locker room combustible. If I was Okafor’s agent I would tell him to rough up Simmons on a dunk attempt and stomp on Embiid foot in practice.
Whether he plays 3 or 4 is irrelevant with thier current roster. He can’t shoot and Covington is not an NBA starter either. And Saric is a tweeter so he is not going to get minutes in lieu of Simmons. He sounds like a role player to me based on the direction that they want to go which makes somewhat less valuable considering the roster composure right now.
I am not sure if the Sixers know what they are going to do with Simmons, but my point still stands is that they don’t have anyone who can shoot the basketball.
The reason why Dunn is getting so much run is that he is a big PG which everyone assumes will translate to the NBA better. His stats are inferior to Ulis across the board but Ulis is 5’9. I would rather take a chance with a PG later in the 1st than Dunn if you want a traditional PG.
Mike Budenholzer ran the same exact plays Brett Brown uses. Former Hawk and current LA Lakers bench player Lou Williams is an easy fit and shouldn’t cast too much in trade.
For the 2? He is a career 41.6% shooter 34.2% from 3. No thanks.
I think the Sixers biggest weakness is dribble drive penetrating guards and wings. It is the way I would build a team. I would look to find a couple guards/ wings on short term contracts to bridge until they draft their long term prospect next year or 2 years from now. Players like Lou Williams, Tyreke Evans or Jeremy Lin on a one to 3 year contract. Until they find and/or develop an Allen Iverson, Dwayne Wade, Russell Westbrook, Tony Parker or John Wall. I personally like guards that attack the rim. Spurs had Parker and Ginobli, Heat had James and Wade, OKC has Durant and Westbrook. 2 players on the court that get into the lane. They have Center now it is time to find the next skill set. 2017 draft is loaded with lottery point guards.
PG Mario Tremble of Maryland withdraws from the NBA Draft
Melo Trimble is a bum……D-League here he comes
**76ers Rumors***
76ers Send the Unhappy Jhalil Okar to the Chicago Bulls for Guard Derick Rose and Forward Joakim Noah as the Bulls move forward to build around Jimmy Butler and Okafor
76ers Starting 5 For 2016-2017 Season
PG – Derick Rose
SG – Nicolas Batum (Signed as a Free-Agent)
SF – Ben Simmons
PF – Joakim Noah
C – Joel Embiid
Lmfao Noah’s a free agent. You couldn’t buy a clue if you had Mark Cuban money
Cripes Paul, nobody wants Derrick Rose and who says that Okafor is unhappy. You guys are just making shit up now.
He doesn’t know sports or athletes… He reads shit on the internet, makes stuff up etc… He can’t have an intelligent conversation because he admittedly doesn’t watch sports
I watch plenty of Sports and I still play Sports at Age 52 (Softball, Basketball & Soccer) .. In fact I watched a Great Playoff Hockey Game lad evening with the Penquins 2-1 Series Clinching Win over the TB Lightning… I also watched some of the Game #5 of the Western Conference B-Ball Series..
I watch when Competition is at it highest point and games are meaningful..
I’ve got too much to do outdoors and around the house when the weather is nice like it is now and will be, for the next 4-5 Months to watch meaningless, regular Season Games of Crappy Teams… I’m too old for that and I’d rather be something else ..
the million dollar question on everyone’s mind is what you had for dinner last night Paul
As a well known flip flopper I’m sure it doesn’t bother you that you flip flopped in that one post …. you comment on players you don’t watch– you admitted to not watching eagles games or the NBA because you don’t like the NBA product… well its memorial day… flip flops are acceptable to wear…
He comments on sports but doesn’t watch it. He comments on players who he hasn’t seen. Henski you said it a week ago, the Phil’s made those historic runs and he commented from afar but wasn’t invested in the team, he has no idea that in the De valley people wouldn’t go to the concession stand or the bathroom when Howard was up. That the Phil’s were must watch on tv etc… He has nothing
Houston Rockets to announce the Hiring of Coach Mark D’Antonio to be their next HC which is good news for the 76ers…
Great news for the Sixers. D’Antoni is a hack. Crappy coach for a crappy team. Bad news for Dwight Howard.
The Beard is like Carmelo in that no team built around them will ever win a championship.
Mike D’Antonio’s offense is the simplest in the NBA. Everything is a pick and roll. Pick and roll if a shot doesn’t go up immediately do another pick and roll if a shot doesn’t go up immediately do another pick and roll. Dwight Howard couldn’t pick and pop so he was frustrated in LA Laker land.
First thing to pop into my mind was this hire was to ensure Dwight Howard ops out of his Rocket contract knowing how much he hates that offense. The second thing was I thought D’Antonio was put on the Sixers bench to be Jerry Colangelo’s eyes and ears. But Daryl Morey ( Sam Hinkie’s Mentor ) must have got a vote of confidence from Hinkie.
ESPN reports that the 76ers ar exploring Trade Options for Jhalil Okafor and
Nerlens Noel as part of their Draft Strategy and are very likely to move 1 of them and since Okafor has a much higher Trade Value then Noel, it’s very likely that Okafor is the Playet that’s gets moved I have stated since they got the #1 Overall Pick of the Draft
Bro u said they’re gonna trade him for jakim Noah who is a free agent. Stop it dude…
I have been on record saying I think Brian Colangelo is going to screw this up, so although I wouldn’t trade Okafor – but I would trade Noel for a roll of toilet paper – That doesn’t mean that I think Colangelo wouldn’t trade him.
But the rumor states Okafor, or Noel. Keep that in mind, regardless of your reasoning that Okafor has more trade value.
That wouldn’t matter if they chose to trade Noel; He can still be traded regardless of his value, and still return something of value – especially if they sweeten the deal with draft picks this year, and in the future.
We don’t need Dunn, Jamal Murray, D’Angelo Russell, or Brandon Ingram – all totally overrated…..and please Paul, spare me those bums you keep suggesting they trade for from Phoenix, and Boston….
I’m going on Record that Ben Simmons is not a Franchise Changer Type of Player.. He’ll be a Good NBA Player but not a dominant, impact Player who can will his Team to Victory and carry a Team on his shoulders when it counts the most for he did not demonstrate these traits last season with LSU … He’s just not that type of Player and doesn’t have that type of killer instinct or winner mentality that the great ones have.. He seems like a nice kid but he didn’t impress me last year at LSU where he was hyped up to the max like some of the Posters here have been doing …
Okay, and I want you to remember you said that – and no flip flopping, or making any other excuses – and take the consequences like a man – and flat out admit you were wrong .
You’re my ace on here Paul, but your taking a big leap of faith, because you really are not an NBA Talent Guy – nothing personal. I just don’t think you’re capable of seeing what you need to see from NBA Prospects. But I have saved it to my computer………be talking you..
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No problem Cliff, I just don’t see great things from Simmons.. He’s a likeable kid and maybe a tad too easy-going & laid back for his own good which won’t work in the NBA playing against full-grown men…
If the 76ers don’t improve, upgrade and revamp their Entire Guard Position, they won’t Win 25 Games regardless of who is in their Front Court…
What have very Good Players like Anthony Davis of the Pelicans or your boy Cousins of Sacramento accomplish so far with their Teams in their 3-4 Years of Playing?
Those teams never drafted correctly to have the backcourts they needed to succeed. That has nothing to do with drafting Simmons.
and whose to say the backcourt you envision is going to help us be successful.
Don’t trade Okafor, draft Simmons, Trade Noel, sign a free agent to play in the backcourt or two or trade for one using Noel as bate, continue building the talent base – not tearing down.
Pretty safe limb to crawl out there on Paul…franchise changer. Pretty broad definition. Who do you consider current franchise changers.? Outside of Curry and Lebron?
I’ll give Simmons 3 Seasons to see how well he does
Give me Winners & Leadership HAC… Very little about Simmons Play exudes Winning or Leadership.. Does he make Players around him better? Does he want the Ball in Clutch moments of the Game and then come thru..Does he will hisTeammates to do what’s necessary to Win the Game . He didn’t display any of these traits while at LSU and appears to have been sheltered by his he Dad while being a youngster and is about to have a rude awakening at the NBA Level..
Today around the NBA some up and coming Players who are Franchise Changers and players that exude Toughness, Leadership to go along with their Talent would be a Damon Lillard Portland, Jimmy Butler of Bulls, Kemba Walker of Hornets, Kawmi Leonard of Spurs, these Players are their Teams Hearts & Souls
When I look around at very Talented Players like James Harden & John Wall, Blake Griffin, Dwight Howard, Carmelo Anthony, I just don’t see the Leadership or Mental Toughness enough to make their Teams Winners.. I also don’t see many of them Playing or caring much about Playing Defense and appear more concerned about padding their own Stat Sheet..
James Harden is flat out Embarrasing on Defense for a Professional NBA Player, You would think a Professional would have a little self pride..
Being a Franchise Changer is more about putting up great Stats for your Team, It’s about setting the bar, establishing a mindset and doing things the right way and being a Professional & Mature and Leading and really being an extension of the Coach’s when on the Court and the Face of the Franchise when off the Court..
The Talent level around the NBA is thru the Roof Athletically, but what Players have these intangibles and burning desire to be Great and to be on Teams that sustain Greatness and Demand excellence and executionand Teamwork…
It’s an awful lot to ask for any 18-20 Year old Kid to have all these intangibles which is why it’s quite rare even though expectations for Top Draft Picks, continues to be elevated each and every Draft and is way out of whack for what they usually bring to the NBA as Players
Wired, take away Leonard, who plays for a team of a generation, the other three guys you mention have one playoff series win this year combined and they are all in years 4-6 of their careers…
Take those above Players off those Teams and those Teams become like the 76ers with 20 Wins.. It’s pathetic how bad these 76ers are and how it will still take 3-4-5 more Seasons before they can compete and this is still after tanking/sucking for the Ladt 3 Years already
I believe all the Players I listed above were in the Playoffs this Year and were the leaders & hear & souls of their Teams too..
One did not the other two one and done. Trust the process people promised championships
KEMBA WALKER!!!!????…..You’ve got to be kidding me Paul….
Did you mention him in the same breathe as Lillard, and Jimmy Butler???/
I rest my case on you….
Kemba Walkers leads the Hornets to a 15 Game Inprovement to a 48-34 Record and Plays 81 Games with his Best Season in Terms of Shooting %, 3 Pt % and Free-Throw % while Averaging 21 Pts, 5 Assists, 4 Rebounds and almost 2 Steals a Game … He’s the engine that makes them go and had a great z2015-2016 Career
He’s the Hornets version Alan Iverson… Fans love him and he gives it 100% every Game as he comes to play with no excuses or BS
A real Leader and Winner which is why I listed him!!!
You rely too much on Athletic Talent only, Get me Winners!!!
Bullshit Paulman the wild turkey 101 you drank last night has severely disabled your brain of any rational thinking. You brought up Kemba Walker because you have a strong infatuation with North Carolina teams. You are so far removed from Philly teams it’s pathetic that you even waste your time posting on gcobb. You suck so much Carolina meat stick you just couldn’t help yourself “Kemba Walker the Hornets A.I. lmfao”.
1st of all – Never mention his name in the same breathe as Allen Iverson – no comparison.
I cannot question the love the Carolina Fan have for him – That may actually be the way it is down there – But Nationally, he’s not even a comparison to someone who hasn’t even been drafted yet – that’s laughable.
Kemba Walker……spare me Paul….
Allen iverson? You mean he guy that only made one final and no championships because he couldn’t play with any other scorers? Ugh I hope we can do better than that after tanking ten straight seasons…
No, Allen Iverson the first ballot Hall of Famer – That will NEVER be Kemba Walker…..Enough said…
He was a great player, just not a winner! I want a winner here
And Kemba Walker is a winner??…screw him, I wouldn’t want him on my team.
Iverson was a winner, what are you talking about Ciggy??
Winners like who??, and what NBA team is chock full of winners in your opinion??…LOL!!
What did he win? Nothing…not one thing…
Winners? Duncan, Jordan, Bryant, curry, Thomas…. Players that transcend the game.. Iverson is the loser… He wins nothing nothing at all.
As for walker? Cliff I’ve watched maybe 10 minutes of the hornets ( same as you and Paul)…. I can’t comment …
Rookie of the year, NBA League MVP, 11 time All-Star, 2 time All Star game MVP, 3 time All NBA Team,
Many winners haven’t won an NBA Championships; That doesn’t disqualify him as a winner. Again, Kemba Walker will never come close to any of those accomplishments that winners achieve.
and BTW, you have no idea how many games I’ve seen of Kemba Walker; He isn’t close to being a franchise player, or impact player in this league, and never has been even in college.
He was just a name on one of the best college programs in the nation, but nothing special individually. He’s just as average in the NBA NATIONALLY, BUT IN Carolina, THEY MAY EXAGGERATE HIS IMPACT ….because they know no better due to their bias..
Fuck outta here don’t nobody care about the stupid shit your bum ass has to say about AI.
Did he win?
Yes, Rookie of the year, NBA League MVP, 11 time All-Star, 2 time All Star game MVP, 3 time All NBA Team…..Championship finalist – You don’t get there if you’re not a winner FYI…..
Many winners haven’t won an NBA Championships; That doesn’t disqualify him as a winner.
Not to mention 1st Ballot Hall of Famer…..Checkmate ……ENOUGH SAID
He was a salfish “me first” player.
Can’t win with those guys.
again for those struggling with this – There are nothing but Winners in the Hall of Fame…….Conversation over…..and goodnight ….
That’s not checkmate that is you insisting that me first players who have extreme talent are always best. I only care about championships. All those individual accomplishments mean nothing to me as a fan if the TEAM
It’s checkmate!!…. deal with it….
Many winners haven’t won an NBA Championships; That doesn’t disqualify him as a winner….You’re wrong; Let It go..
Conversation over….
a winner WINS it ALL– a CHAMPIONSHIP- again- good player, fun to watch– we still haven’t WON a championship since 83… doc, cheeks, jones, malone, etc…= WINNERS!!
So Pete Maravich, Karl Malone, John Stockton, George Gervin, Charles Barkley, Elgin Baylor, Patrick Ewing, Dominique Wilkins, Steve Nash, Reggie Miller, Vince Carter, Bernard King, Chris Mullin, David Thompson, Grant Hill, Adrian Dantley, Arvedus Sabonis, and Detlef Schremph, are all losers, because they didn’t win an NBA CHAMPIONSHIP??
Assinine to think that. Championships aren’t won by an individual person – unless we’re talking about Tennis, Golf, Nascar, or Bowling – NBA, NFL, NHL, and MLB, are won as a team.
Just because the teams weren’t able to win a Championship doesn’t mean the individual isn’t a winner….
Christian Leattner, Danny Manning, Keith Smart, and Glen Rice won NCAA Championships – So they’re winners – but suck in their individual careers right???….and still haven’t accomplished what these Hall of Famers have – But their winners because they won a Championship??????……..
Just asinine reasoning…..Case closed…Allen Iverson is a winner.
Simple Definition of winner – a person who is successful
1 : someone or something that wins a contest, prize, etc.
2 : a very good or successful person or thing – **************
3 : sports : that wins a game – A GAME – NOT THE CHAMPIONSHIP
Source: Merriam-Webster’s Learner’s Dictionary
transcendent players win championships– lead their team to championships… AI won many honors and accolades- that does zero for me the fan… ZERO– you can look back fondly on his era, like those in utah do for stockton and malone– butt in the end did not get it done… i bring up ‘winner’ because we haven’t done it since 83 and we just tanked for 100 years…
Well, it’s obvious you failed English, because your personal definition of what a winner is in flat out wrong…
again teams win Championships…….and if an individual athlete is successful at what he does, then he Is decorated as winners are; That’s not just by being on a Championship TEAM……ABSOLUTE SCRUBS can be on Championship teams, but that in itself doesn’t make them winners persay.
How they are decorated dispite winning a Championship does – like mvp or hall of fame.
You really don’t havwe an argument, you’re just being Ciggy
sorry cliff– NBA is ruled by transcendent players– guys that lift their team to championships, its why we tanked– or so I was told- i want a championship, not another AI era– AI era only brought highlights no championships–
Doesn’t matter Ciggy, he’s still a winner – doesn’t have to win a championship to be a winner.
But if you think so – that’s you – but you’re still wrong.
I WON $2 on the powerball the other night… guess that makes me a winner– my mom kicked butt and WON $35 in bingo last weekend… shes a winner– so by your small, petty, narrow mind sure he’s a winner– as a matter of fact every player in the league WON at least 10 games this year they too are winners– you know that I was using winner in the context of the nba and what winning really is… but since you like to defend talented players who’s human faults and weaknesses has hurt their team… go for it.
I guess it does make you a winner Ciggy…Congratulations
But whatever on Iverson Mute issue for me….
I guess you are saying there are DEGREES of winning… i’m a winner for winning $2 but the guy who hit the powerball is a WINNER!!!!!– Iverson won the MVP award but Kobe is a WINNER…
Kemba Walker led the UConn Men’s Teamto an upset run through the Big East Tourney which carried all the way thru the NCAA Tourney as they Beat the favored Arizona, Kentucky & Butler Squads on their way to the NCAA Championship ..
Walker has led the Hornets to 2 Playoffs in the last 3 Years after failing to make the Post-Season for Years.. So yes , to current Hornet Fans, Kemba Walker is their Franchise Player and the engine that makes the Team Go..
The kid has been a Team Guy, a battler, Leader & Winner at every level
Lots of Teams would love to have him on their squad!!!
And yes, the Hornets Games are televised on TV here both Home & Away so I saw many of their Games.. Nicolas Batum and Courtney Lee are Free Agents, I believe and are nice Players to add to any Roster trying to improve.. I hope the Hornets re-sign them both of them to keep their Core together with Al Jefferson, F Kaminsky, C Zeller as they give a exciting Team to watch .. I think Guards J Lin & J Lambe are also Free-Agents so very doubtful they are Re-signing all these guys.. Lin & Lambe both had nice Seasons as role, complementary Players and they contributed a lot in many of those 48 Wins they had ..
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